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Originally posted by Mptr Wait... you mean you CAN'T zoom out IRL? LOL WHAT A NOOB! I've been living in TPV since I was like 2 years old. It's just easier, since I can see behind my back and thus lessen the chances of getting a surprise buttrape. |
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Originally posted by L1ghtsabeR Wait... you mean you CAN'T zoom out IRL? LOL WHAT A NOOB! I've been living in TPV since I was like 2 years old. It's just easier, since I can see behind my back and thus lessen the chances of getting a surprise buttrape.
So......being buttraped after seeing it coming is more enjoyable for you?  |
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daarco
 Hard Core Member
Joined: 12/19/06
I have Darkfall now! |
Originally posted by Fadedbomb
So sanbox gameplay isnt enough for you? You sem to have endures many MMOs wich only offers restricted gameplay. And now when you do whatever you want, you whine about some thing as pointless as the view?? And you havent even tryed the game yet either. Dont forget its the seame for everyone. So if i was you, i would begin to play as many FPV games as possible to get used to it. There is NO other way of dealing with it. Maybe you have not thought that the game may very well be built around this view. Try it first. |
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The view is important to some people. I know I'll be reluctant to even try the game considering it's going to be using first person view only. I've never once played a first person RPG I enjoyed. The Elder Scrolls games and Dark Messiah come to mind as some of the more popular ones. I just do not have fun in first person, watching only my hands swing a sword or stab with a knife. It's not absurd some of us ask for third person [and] sandbox. And I just can't see how this game's combat will be any different from any other first person RPG. There's only so much you can do with either view. |
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Originally posted by BizkitNL So......being buttraped after seeing it coming is more enjoyable for you? No, when I see it coming I don't let it happen. |
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Originally posted by L1ghtsabeR No, when I see it coming I don't let it happen.
I'm sorry :). I usually don't say stuff like that! *cough* |
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I don't see what the issue is with first person... It cannot be THAT bad that you won't even try the game. For all you know it could be better that they have it in FPV. I am actually looking forward to trying it out for myself, and if it sucks then it sucks. Nothing we can do about it... it does seem to be the trend with new MMOs these days anyway. It might be the best new thing to happen to an MMO. And MO will be the next big thing!! We can only hope ;) Killer: 80%, Achiever: 67%, Socializer: 27%, Explorer: 27% |
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Originally posted by Fadedbomb
Sadly a great many dont feel as you do. I personally love the idea of FPV only! Change is something to be embraced, we have enough cookie cutter MMO's out there.
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karat76
Hard Core Member
Joined: 8/22/06
Greatest threat to society is letting casualties of puberty reproduce. |
Originally posted by boomer0901
Have to disagree. I'm well over 30 and aside from CoD or Unreal I loathe 1st person. I prefer my rpgs to be in 3rd . |
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OP, you say you started playing MMOs with EQ? Then why would you say gamers from EQ would QQ about FPV when EQ was nothing but FPV with a few other view options that were horrible. I don't remember any kind of Third person PoV in EQ that was on par with the likes of WoW...but maybe I quit before then (Ended up quitting when WoW came out). Personally, I only played in FPoV when playing EQ which was my first MMO. I didn't mind it at all, in fact it made me feel more apart of the game. However, I'm not against having a 3rd PoV for those WoW kids. Everyone has their style of play. But if the PoV is that big of a deal for you, then I guess I won't be seeing you in game because I doubt that the devs will be implementing anything other than FPV when it launches. They might add in 3rd PoV some time later...but I highly doubt it. |
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And how the hell does FPV ruin immersion of the game? If anything it furthers it because it's as if you are in the game yourself, looking out from your toons eyes.
3rd person takes away from immersion because you're less eveloped by your surroundings and the feeling of actually being in the game with that view point.
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It's difficult. There is a lot to be said for the immersion of first person, and if you are going to encourage this, in a pvp game everyone should be in the same boat. But the inability to stare at your awesome gleaming mightiness could be a serious issue, in terms of creating a relationship between the player and the toon. And we all know that relationship is what brings in the bucks. I also enjoy looking at myself - although Oblivion handled it well, in that most of the time I was FP, but could check myself out also, and see how I fit in the game world. It's a bold move for sure. I suspect it's not a good idea, but perhaps there is some kind of compromise... I will try it and see how it fits, anyhow. ...
And to the comment that if the game is not gear oriented it shouldn't matter, I disagree. Gear games offer two things - stats (ie power) and looks. Even if the stats are less important, the looks most certainly are. |
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I strongly dislike being limited to the first person view when doing actions that are not aiming-related. I play Darkfall ATM and I, like most people I see, travel with our weapons out for the 3rd person viewpoint. The only times I appreciate having FP-view is when shooting or casting. |
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Originally posted by Ashrik
That's the point. TPV is generally a huge advantage over FPV when you're doing anything BUT aiming. It grants you field of vision in areas that you would normally not have it. So while FPV is not a true representation of human sight, it is far more accurate than FPV. I don't particularly care for immersion, but anyone familiar with FPSs knows that FPV adds a whole new level of "stealth" possibilities and requires players to have a much higher level of combat awareness. It effectively adds another player-skill check to all forms of combat.
Is it any wonder the carebears on these forums are against MO being FPV only? |
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Actually, the First Person View will increase immersion. Just think of any exciting FPS games. You feel like you're part of the battle. In a game like MO, not being able to see behind you makes exploring more exciting and suspenseful. Another good thing about the FPS is the elimination of the WoWish "Look at me and my shiny armor mentality". You care less about the way you look but more how you're character is as a person. |
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No gripes here, I like First Person View. Seems like its more your problem than anyone elses, so the game fails in your mind, but not most other gamers that are intrested in MO. -TORMENT GAMING COMMUNITY- |
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tombear81
Novice Member
Joined: 3/17/07
"Meeza spullon and gramma is ou me ma taut me. Yousa no write be nasta to ma speelin n a grumma !" |
I am up for the interesting idea of it. Seems very immersive. However combat in games like Oblivion I always go 3rd person. So it remains to be seen. |
Originally posted by Czechmate
That's the point. TPV is generally a huge advantage over FPV when you're doing anything BUT aiming. It grants you field of vision in areas that you would normally not have it. So while FPV is not a true representation of human sight, it is far more accurate than FPV. I don't particularly care for immersion, but anyone familiar with FPSs knows that FPV adds a whole new level of "stealth" possibilities and requires players to have a much higher level of combat awareness. It effectively adds another player-skill check to all forms of combat.
Is it any wonder the carebears on these forums are against MO being FPV only? I don't think it has anything to do with being a "carebear". Some people prefer it, some don't. I personally like FPV. Either way, resorting to name calling just kills any credibility of any point you were trying to make and makes people argue even more loudly against you. Asheron's Call. The one open world, classless progression, live team content oriented game that ALL game sites and developers show little respect for as a template to pattern future MMOs after.
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OP's point is moot. FPS games have been extremely successful with no third person. They're not changing it for you so stfu already. kthxbai |
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You dont like it ? Dont play!
Easy... huh ? :) Games played: Owerall ower 500+ |
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Originally posted by Fadedbomb Bullshits. The most immersion RPGs up to now are called Elder scrolls and Might&Magic series both are FPV. In fact 3-th person view has less immersion, but are more easy to play. Just as in FPV you have rely more on your ears than on your eyes. The difference is similar to FPS and Console Action game... Just personal preference... ______\m/_____ |
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Originally posted by Fadedbomb Everquest=Themepark is eventually evolved all around eye candy your product of what todays generation wants so logic to dont like fps view. If you want everquest -wow -lineage2 i suggest play those games instead:) |
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The viewpoint is a big plus in my book. I love first person games and it looks like Starvault has managed to implement the first person perspective very well in MO. |
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