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tombear81
Novice Member
Joined: 3/17/07
"Meeza spullon and gramma is ou me ma taut me. Yousa no write be nasta to ma speelin n a grumma !" |
This post is amazing. It was done by someone on the DF forums who is actually playing the game and can throw togather sentences. It compares Tasos hype with reality. Its pretty balanced but confirms something which us "trolls" have had the good common sense to know already. Tasos has bullshitted an awful lot. Grabbed a copy of it cause I think threads like this may have a tendancy do vanish. Really for anyone considering the game this is the ultimate guide. Hope this has not already been posted and can someone changed it to a propers link and all. Me is thick and lazy. http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=164338 |
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very good read i think, it cleared a lot up that i was reading on the website (which is horrible) i would recommend it for anyone looking into the game if you have the attention span to get through it. thanks for posting it cy This really is not WoW/EQ where Gear makes the man. Here in eVE, the man with biggest balls, willing to risk the most, will win. It is risk/reward here- not always wear best items 24/7 and beat the crap out of all else. -PatchDay |
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The site did not got an update for years ..all of the info he lists i know myself from announcements too.. Will be helpfull for newbs i guess.. -----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- Everyone who logs into NGE destroys a bit of the SW Universe. No SWG Pre-Cu, No money to the $OE suckers , simple and fair. DON't agree to $OE 's EULA. They change the gameplay without respect your investement. "There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE) |
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That was the most informing and valuble post on whole DF Board. They have locked the thread already...
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I'm not taking a shot at DF, but this part of that post cracked me up. "Can I design my own house? Yes you can." >Nope, problem is you can't contruct a halfway logical counterpoint to anything, probably because you don't understand what it is you're arguing about in the first place. - Hellmoob |
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ABRaquel
Hard Core Member
Joined: 1/19/04
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of Elderberries. |
Originally posted by Vallador
I just noticed that. I see no reasons for locking that Thread. It was quite informative and I saw no flaming or trolling. I guess they really don't like to be called out. |
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The irony is how the post wasn't even negative, no "this game is fundamentally flawed" or any trolling, forumfallers approved it (and asked for a sticky), the OP said the game was still fun despite of how the outdated website is a big disservice to anyone who wants information about Darkfall. I guess moderators are told to close any thread that is remotely negative towards Aventurine. |
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Should be cut pasted and stickied here. To close a factual thread that must have taken hours and hours to collate is a scandal. So much listed as being in (past tense) rather than will be in (future tense) coupled with the 'feature complete' statement by Taco belle really just demonstrates he's possibly a bigger liar than Gault Gonard, Brad (Jolly Green Ranger) Mc Grind, Lord master and semi deity (+space cadet) Brittish, Vuarr the D&L Vulcan and all those BS artists rolled into one. |
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That was an interesting compilation of statements. Full disclosure: I never thought Darkfall would be released. I'll consider joining the game in a few months if it gets good press from mainstream gaming sites. That said, let me add that I'm able to keep my feelings about Tasos and Aventurine separate. Tasos is not Aventurine. Tasos is the Voice of Aventurine. Sadly, he's been spinning lies about the game for years, and there's nothing wrong with pointing that out. |
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Originally posted by ABRaquel
I just noticed that. I see no reasons for locking that Thread. It was quite informative and I saw no flaming or trolling. I guess they really don't like to be called out.
They hate seeing the truth been told thats why they locked it so its fast gone from page 1. |
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Quite, I certainly wouldn't want to distract from the information presented. Some are 'no big deal' others are 'game breakers'. |
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Can't believe they closed the thread.. that means they are in deep shit. |
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At least we can have it here:
Heceldi http://darkfallonline.com/features/ http://darkfallonline.com/faq/general.html http://darkfallonline.com/faq/world.html "There are no safe zones in Darkfall unless the players themselves create them or seek them out. There is no area where a player cannot be attacked by another player." "A player in a city full of his clanmates and further guarded by NPC guards is as safe as he can be, but he is still vulnerable to a sudden enemy raid." "No. Darkfall is seamless and will not have zones and zone loading, as seen in other MMORPGs. There will be a short loading pause when entering dungeons and structures." "Our random spawns are dynamic. Clear out a spawn and it will not reappear in the same place. If you spend enough time killing a species, its presence in that area will thin out and eventually the species will migrate to a different area. " "With a no gore setting you will have no gore whatsoever, whereas with full options you could watch a perfectly timed and powerful swing of a sword take someone?s head clean off their shoulders." "Expect realistic weather effects, such as rain, snow, wind blowing in the trees, wind blowing in the grass on the ground, thunder and lightning." "A dynamic in-game map is available." http://darkfallonline.com/faq/characters.html "Changing your alignment towards good is a challenging and difficult process. " "If you want to learn to use the sword for example, you pick up the swordsmanship skill by learning it from an NPC or from another player" "That being said - There is an option available to follow a class system: the Prestige classes described below." "There are many ways you may customize your character to give him a unique look." "Does each race have unique properties? Yes they do. We?ll speak more about these at a later date. " "Your character is capable of swimming, if he learns how to swim." "We have trade skills such as farming, setting snares and hunting animals" "Therefore eating is in the game, and players that enjoy farming, setting traps, baking, cooking, fishing, hunting, etc. can sell their wares" "Players will be able to set up houses of various sizes and design, ranging from small cottages to huge castles and citadels." "Can I design my own house? Yes you can." "If you are wearing heavy armor, you will run and swim slightly slower than if you are wearing no armor at all." http://darkfallonline.com/faq/skills.html "We currently have about 300 skills and 200 spells designed on paper, but we are hoping to get at least 500 skills and 500 spells in there before retail." "Some skills and spells can be learned from other players." "In addition there are some special spells that do not fit directly into any school of magic, such as racial specialty spells, and Prestige class specialty spells." "There are some special skills and spells that can only be learned by specific Prestige class characters." "Yes, however, your casting time will increase significantly if you are wearing heavy armor." "There is also a slightly increased chance of making a mistake while casting a spell if you are wearing heavy armor." http://darkfallonline.com/faq/items.html "Is it possible to repair items? It is possible, with the proper skills and tools, up to a point. Eventually an item will be destroyed after being repaired several times." "You will be able to make almost every item found in the world like weapons, tools, armor, clothing, food, containers, furniture, jewelry etc." http://darkfallonline.com/faq/society.html "Remember that human NPC hirelings, such as guards and vendors, will not tolerate Orks and Alfar players, and may attack them on sight, even though they are in the same Clan." "There will most certainly be Clans in Darkfall with players from all races. We predict that this will be small evil Clans, which will set up their Clan headquarters in remote locations, and not get involved in city conquest or empire building, since it will be almost impossible for these Clans to recruit NPC hirelings to help defend their cities and to run their shops." "You will find all the information you need on the political map, including who controls the different city states/kingdoms/fiefs, their laws and who they kill on sight." http://darkfallonline.com/faq/economy.html "We have developed a pretty sophisticated trading system that brings buyers and sellers together easily, and it will work in, but also out of the game." "You can have pets and NPC hirelings in Darkfall, ranging from tamed animals and monsters, to summoned skeletons, charmed animals and monsters, hired NPC merchants, hired NPC guards, etc. " "NPC hirelings can follow you around and fight with you, they can carry your loot, they can perform skills and spells to aid you, etc. NPC hirelings can do pretty much everything that player friends can do." "They can be a vendor in your shop that you have set up, they can mine for minerals in a mine, they can go out into the forest and chop wood for you, or stand on the banks of a river fishing for you all day." http://darkfallonline.com/faq/combat.html "you may have to rely on magical items, potions or scrolls" "However, if you’re intelligent, persistent and skillful you could be very successful playing the lone wolf character." "Yes you can fight wherever you want. There are no safe zones." "It is possible to push players and monsters out of the way" http://darkfallonline.com/faq/gameplay.html "What camera view is used in Darkfall? More on this soon" "How do I tell my NPC hirelings what to do" http://darkfallonline.com/faq/community.html "If you would like to volunteer, you will be offered the opportunity to apply." "Does Darkfall have in-game bulletin boards? Yes it does." "Is there a Darkfall Newsletter? There will be one as soon as the playtesting begins." "We have designed a custom communications system for Darkfall which works whether your character is logged in the game or not." "profile that will look something like ?The Titanic Honorable Paladin Cornelius GoblinsBane // General of clan The Inner Circle - Grandmaster swordsman ? married to Mary of clan The Inner Circle."" http://darkfallonline.com/faq/development.html "You can use the developer interaction message board on the official site and you can speak with the developers live during our upcoming developer chats." "We will run polls regularly on the official Site. There will be even more methods to provide feedback in the future. " "We will start having House of Commons style developer chats very soon and on a regular basis. " "We will have regular news updates, screenshots, announcements, FAQ updates, downloads, and progress reports on the official Darkfall site. " http://darkfallonline.com/faq/testing.html "There will be a public beta test." "To get to beta test Darkfall you will have to..." http://darkfallonline.com/races/alfar/index.html "every time an alfar casts a spell the results vary slightly" http://darkfallonline.com/races/mahirim/index.html "Only mahirim mastersmiths can make Ghost Claws, a weapon which is made using an extremely rare resource called moonstone." "When standing erect, mahirim move with the same speed as members of the other races. However, when not engaged in combat, they can switch to all fours and run with the speed of a horse." http://www.darkfallonline.com/features/interact.html "Trade your hard earned items using Darkfall?s secure trade interface and in-game trade boards." "Darkfall places no restrictions on player interaction, so there are no developer imposed safe zones, no realms, factions, PvP zones" "Darkfalls Communication interface includes in-game message and trade boards, an IRC-style chat system, instant messaging, voice support, and even mobile phone SMS messaging." http://www.darkfallonline.com/features/explore.html "Each race has a unique set of abilities" "Repetitive monster encounters are a thing of the past" "Watch trees and grass sway in the wind" "Sail your ship through rough seas, then become hampered by fog as the waters calm. Struggle as your battlefield-bound army marches into a severe storm. In Darkfall, the weather is more than just window dressing. " http://www.darkfallonline.com/features/freedom.html "You can forget about point - click - and wait" "there's much more to character development than, say, raising your riding or mining skill by mindlessly killing rats all day. Instead, you'll need to practice your skills if you want to get better at them" "a hundred Prestige classes to further specialize in" "Multiple safeguards protect you from cheats and exploits that would otherwise interfere with your gaming experience." http://www.darkfallonline.com/features/create.html "In Darkfall, all items in the world can be made by the players." "Darkfall?s crafting system is intuitive, non-repetitive, challenging, useful, fun - and profitable." "you could invent and be the first to use a weapon as awesome as the" "Bring your goods to market using Darkfall?s sophisticated and secure trading system, bringing buyers and sellers together easily whether they?re inside the game or not" http://www.darkfallonline.com/features/fight.html "There are no safe zones in Darkfall. The only protection you can count on is your friends watching your back. " http://www.darkfallonline.com/features/challenge.html "Test your mettle in Darkfall's Arena Events" http://www.darkfallonline.com/features/be_heard.html "We are committed to delivering and maintaining a complete, stable, and balanced game" "a game that makes good on its promises" "with regular and free expansion-size updates, prompt and swift customer service, and superior value for our players." . All things considered, the game is in post-launch stability training. Many features that were promised didn't make final cut, some of them, such as Prestige classes, were (according to in game GM's) never intended. The lack of patch notes since beta testing finished makes it hard to tell how much is being done, and the lack of regular updates from actual staff doesn't help. There's a stong volunteer effort on the part of moderators in both IRC and the forums, and in game help is usually really fast. So there are at least people there for support. The game is still very fun, even in its present state and with the lack of the features listed on the website. The player's understanding of how to use a skill frequently outweighs the numerical number of the skill of their opponent. Once the issues that arose during launch are completely cleared up, and the developers can focus more on features, I'm sure we are going to see this game truly bloom into an epic game. Until then, I'll keep plodding along, doing my thing in game. |
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tombear81
Novice Member
Joined: 3/17/07
"Meeza spullon and gramma is ou me ma taut me. Yousa no write be nasta to ma speelin n a grumma !" |
I am surprise it was not simply deleted. Its a horrible list in some ways but from another perspective its a way forward or at last shows how far DF has to go. Its is quite shocking that all of this is *still* on there website. This DF player has obviously done some "free work" for AV so it is *known* what needs editing to be more realistic on there website. Ironically this is more work than we have seen AV do over the past few days. No pacth notes are anything from what I understand. Saddening... but DF is mostly based on a pack of lies, so someone doing this is inevitable. Grabbed a copy of this cause its so good and it is not going to vanish ! Thanks everyone for doing the same. If Tasos has anything to answer its all in this document :) |
Originally posted by tombear81
"How far has to go ?" ..these are dumped features because of design decisions ..they won't brought in ..they gone and well done ! No player houses craping the landscape , no hirelings do the work for you ..say bye bye to whats got dumped through the development process ...Whats not in now ..has been not fitting in DarkFall and has no place in it ! I agree tho they have to put the website down and only link to forum ..so no confusion occurs..website is no needed IMO..
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- Everyone who logs into NGE destroys a bit of the SW Universe. No SWG Pre-Cu, No money to the $OE suckers , simple and fair. DON't agree to $OE 's EULA. They change the gameplay without respect your investement. "There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE) |
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They just closed a thread asking why did they close that thread. forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php It happened just a minut ago, few seconds after I replied in that thread. |
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Toledo eposted the original post with the title "mods suck for hiding the truth^^ forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php DELETED Kranz made another repost forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.phpDELETED Yet another repost, seems the moderator is letting them be now forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php, but this one is edited leaving out several points. This one is still open. |
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lol... What a "cluster-fuck" this piece of shit game and it's cronie numbnuts that run it have become. I give it about six months to a year to shudder it's last breath... |
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tombear81
Novice Member
Joined: 3/17/07
"Meeza spullon and gramma is ou me ma taut me. Yousa no write be nasta to ma speelin n a grumma !" |
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
"How far has to go ?" ..these are dumped features because of design decisions ..they won't brought in ..they gone and well done ! No player houses craping the landscape , no hirelings do the work for you ..say bye bye to whats got dumped through the development process ...Whats not in now ..has been not fitting in DarkFall and has no place in it ! I agree tho they have to put the website down and only link to forum ..so no confusion occurs..website is no needed IMO..
No Raiden, they were features that were never to be added and were never in the game. they simply formed the big feature list to attract hype. Along with a strict NDA, and little information before release. Tasos lied and was a moron and now its biting him back. Its also much more than just what you said. Not just NPC hirlings and a few things. That is an amazingly extensive list. Sorry mate. And a website is needed for any game to convery the game to potential new buyers. Not some forums where mostly its trading epeen and insults. Seriously give it up. DF has just reached terminal station when a player posts this and its locked seconds later. Its like AV dont want any help. They in la la la land right now and soon it will be bankrupt city. To be honest Raiden I am tired of your its hardcore and dont need this feature arguement. Enjoy the game that is nothing but a shell of the listing *still* on the website. Please ask AV to take it down ASAP as it must be embarassing for you as it misrepresents the game. I for one will still be here awhile to make sure AV doesn't away with this too easily. AV got no power on these forums. Freedom of truth is a wonderful thing. Other companies note : MMO players will not be pushed to exetreme even for "niche" gameplay. Last one out turn out the light |
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good read |
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Whoa, theres really missing a lot, if put in a list like that. However, this is not news. Everyone who followed the game for the last year aready knew way in advance that all these features would not be in the initial release. So if you keep that in mind, this isn't shocking at all. Still, there is no excuse to keep a website up for more than a year, listing features that were known not to make it. |
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This really should be a sticky to counter AV false advertising website |
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sad thing is, that's more or less what all of us "trolls" were expecting..... I'd LOVE to play the game Tasos has been advertising...but clearly DF isn't that game. |
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i finally got the opportunity to play the game and take place in a decent sized battle. What i got was a zergfest that was mildly entertaining but the graphics had me in a bind. They were terrible. Skill wise the game wasn't terrible but anybody can pretty much take on anyone else 1v1. Next up mortal online. |
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Originally posted by ABRaquel
I just noticed that. I see no reasons for locking that Thread. It was quite informative and I saw no flaming or trolling. I guess they really don't like to be called out.
Their whole staff including moderators tend to act more like immature teens than devs or moderators. It's like they are back in high school getting picked on but now they have power or something. Any post that isn't 100% pro DF is immediatley locked or deleted. |
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