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Originally posted by robertb
Yes, there are many people playing the game whose parents should be locked-up for having raised such dregs.
On the other hand, there are many that do not fall into this category, as well.
Perhaps you should look for and befriend those in category 2 above.
(Indeed, it seems like many of the Barren's chat rejects have made their way to Darkfall. Good thing is, you can always kill and loot them, just for being idiots. ;) )
There is a far higher percentage of idiots, L33T speaking e-peeners, cheaters, hackers, and such within the DF community than you'll find in just about any other MMO community out there. Sure, there are some decent people in there as well, but they actually seem to be the minority. And people think the WoW community is immature and filled with idiots. Darkfall absolutely DESTROYS the WoW community in regard to immaturity levels. It really is pathetic to behold. |
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WSIMike
Elite Member
Joined: 3/09/04
Playing: Lineage 2, Dissidia FF |
Originally posted by Sober_Sean Hey, I think I saw that video... not even joking lol. ... or at least one very similar. My image of those people - including the ones who pull that kinda crap on forums - is that they have a mirror right near their desk somewhere.. Arcing across the top of the mirror is something like "#1 Bad Ass", or "I PWN N00BS" That's just the image I have in my head when I read some posts, or watch some of these videos with their commentary.
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Originally posted by grimal
when people go out of their way to whine about jerks, it's just not fun |
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This thread is extremely ironic. |
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Dudek28
Apprentice Member
Joined: 8/13/04
There is nothing like a trail of blood to find your way back home. |
Originally posted by grimal
you want the best community in an MMO today? go play LOTRO. |
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Hhussk
City of Heroes Correspondent
Joined: 12/18/07
That which surrounds you, becomes you. |
Originally posted by grimal
The problem isn't the community. The problem is "Chat", which I'll explain. First of all, it is ridiculous to lump "the community" into a catagorical generalization of people who are THE WORST. You are not even considering the people who are waiting in line and haven't even joined in yet. As well, I have doubts you've played enough MMOs to really know who THE WORST community would be. But what makes up THE WORST community? For one, broadcast chat enables THE WORST. If an open method of unregulated communication is created in the game, the beginning player as well as the gold-seller, as well as grief-player is rewarded with all out access. Broadcast chat was originally created as a means to help grouping. It has succeeded in its mission, but failed in general to help the community. It would have been better for people to actually socialize. In other words, if you're looking for a group, you should think about going to places where people need to hang out. Like a bar or tavern for thieves and bards, or a library for mages and scholars, or a church for priests. Or a guild hall for your guild mates. Unfortunately, though, chat circumvents immersion. It literally gives you a way to AVOID real socializing. Now you don't have to travel to the market to sell your relic. You can just spam it on the broadcast channel. So, when you talk about THE WORST community, please understand that this is the nature of chat. Darkfall's chat community is no better or worse than Age of Conan's, who is no better or worse than Eve Online's, who is no better or worse than World of Warcraft....well, World of Warcraft.... lol...chat, pure "you can talk magically across the world without magic" chat...by its nature, ruins immersion and circumvents adventure. ----------------------------- |
Originally posted by Hhussk
That is very true. However, it also contributes positively to the game. The bad chat examples aside, something like a good clan chat will make the difference between feeling all alone in a multiplayer game and having the idea that you play together with many other people. Today, a mmo game without also being a glorified chat room, is doomed to fail. Even if that would be more immersive. |
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Kyleran
Elite Member
Joined: 9/13/06
"In EVE, no one gives a damn about a fair fight." - chafin |
Originally posted by Channce
ROFL, nice, was thinking the same thing. Gather them all up in one place and keep them away from the rest of the civilized world. "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon EVE Cult member since May 2007 Regarding EVE: "To be honest, I think God himself created this game." - Shek Regarding new players in EVE: "Think of yourself as a child released into a park full of pedophiles..." - Eleazaros |
Originally posted by Kyleran
ROFL, nice, was thinking the same thing. Gather them all up in one place and keep them away from the rest of the civilized world.
Amen to that. I'd rather be a carebear than a knuckle-scraping, mouth-breathing neanderthal like some of the DF community. "ME SMASH!!" |
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Best post in ages !!!! SALUTE |
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Originally posted by Zayne3145
With all the time you have spent coming into the darkfall board to flame the posters it amazes me that you feel you can take the moral highground with any sense of honesty. Seems you are just as low as they are. Wear the medal with pride, son, you've earned it. WoWers putting hits on Darkfallers... lol. Its like Saddam putting out a jihad on bin Ladin. Maybe they will destroy eachother so the *true* civilized world can have a place to go to talk about games. Waiting for: A skill-based MMO with Freedom and Consequence. |
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Originally posted by Hhussk
The problem isn't the community. The problem is "Chat", which I'll explain. First of all, it is ridiculous to lump "the community" into a catagorical generalization of people who are THE WORST. You are not even considering the people who are waiting in line and haven't even joined in yet. As well, I have doubts you've played enough MMOs to really know who THE WORST community would be. But what makes up THE WORST community? For one, broadcast chat enables THE WORST. If an open method of unregulated communication is created in the game, the beginning player as well as the gold-seller, as well as grief-player is rewarded with all out access. Broadcast chat was originally created as a means to help grouping. It has succeeded in its mission, but failed in general to help the community. It would have been better for people to actually socialize. In other words, if you're looking for a group, you should think about going to places where people need to hang out. Like a bar or tavern for thieves and bards, or a library for mages and scholars, or a church for priests. Or a guild hall for your guild mates. Unfortunately, though, chat circumvents immersion. It literally gives you a way to AVOID real socializing. Now you don't have to travel to the market to sell your relic. You can just spam it on the broadcast channel. So, when you talk about THE WORST community, please understand that this is the nature of chat. Darkfall's chat community is no better or worse than Age of Conan's, who is no better or worse than Eve Online's, who is no better or worse than World of Warcraft....well, World of Warcraft.... lol...chat, pure "you can talk magically across the world without magic" chat...by its nature, ruins immersion and circumvents adventure. I take you haven't read the Forumfall. Darkfall is THE WORST community I have ever seen, by far. It's not the nature of chat (????) it's the nature of every sick individual that forms that community.
EDIT: I just read this thread by Holymonk about why he unsubscribed DF www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/229085/Why-I-unsubscribed-from-Darkfall.html after writing my reply. Many of us "trolls"said months ago that this community would be harmful for the future of the game. I will paste this part here: "The amount of asshats in the community always totally amazes me. I thought that maybe in game it wouldnt be as bad because people would want to protect their name ingame and not be known as complete idiots but I was wrong. The amount of people that run around acting like 12 year olds after a pack or 2 of wizz fizz is just amazing and reminds me that I am on the internet with people who just have no respect. The people in game are like the people on darkfalls forums. Complete douches. This was a major contributing factor to me leaving the game. The community is 10x worse than wows. (sorry to bring that game up)" |
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Hhussk
City of Heroes Correspondent
Joined: 12/18/07
That which surrounds you, becomes you. |
Originally posted by TalRasha
That is very true. However, it also contributes positively to the game. The bad chat examples aside, something like a good clan chat will make the difference between feeling all alone in a multiplayer game and having the idea that you play together with many other people. Today, a mmo game without also being a glorified chat room, is doomed to fail. Even if that would be more immersive.
I also believe chat can contribute positvely to the game, but I feel it should be implimented in a unique way, and not just attributed to "Trade", "World", or "Zone" channel. For example, I played one game where people could purchase items that allowed them to listen and broadcast on a type of "universal mind link". When they didn't wear it, they received no thoughts from the link. The one thing I believe we disagree on is whether an mmo game without a glorified chat would fail. Personally, I don't know of an MMO without one. If you do, I'd like to know the history of the game and its failure. Plus, even without worldwide chat, there are applications such as vent, AIM, and so forth that allow chat/talk outside the game. ----------------------------- |
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Hhussk
City of Heroes Correspondent
Joined: 12/18/07
That which surrounds you, becomes you. |
Originally posted by altairzq I take you haven't read the Forumfall. Darkfall is THE WORST community I have ever seen, by far. It's not the nature of chat (????) it's the nature of every sick individual that forms that community.
EDIT: I just read this thread by Holymonk about why he unsubscribed DF www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/229085/Why-I-unsubscribed-from-Darkfall.html after writing my reply. Many of us "trolls"said months ago that this community would be harmful for the future of the game. I will paste this part here: "The amount of asshats in the community always totally amazes me. I thought that maybe in game it wouldnt be as bad because people would want to protect their name ingame and not be known as complete idiots but I was wrong. The amount of people that run around acting like 12 year olds after a pack or 2 of wizz fizz is just amazing and reminds me that I am on the internet with people who just have no respect. The people in game are like the people on darkfalls forums. Complete douches. This was a major contributing factor to me leaving the game. The community is 10x worse than wows. (sorry to bring that game up)"
I do not think you are a troll. I just think your making a snap judgement based on a game that doesn't even have its full community playing yet. I would say that one of the self-regulating features of the system is probably that you can go kill a person who talks smack to you over chat. Can you do that in WoW? ----------------------------- |
Originally posted by Hhussk
I also believe chat can contribute positvely to the game, but I feel it should be implimented in a unique way, and not just attributed to "Trade", "World", or "Zone" channel. For example, I played one game where people could purchase items that allowed them to listen and broadcast on a type of "universal mind link". When they didn't wear it, they received no thoughts from the link. The one thing I believe we disagree on is whether an mmo game without a glorified chat would fail. Personally, I don't know of an MMO without one. If you do, I'd like to know the history of the game and its failure. Plus, even without worldwide chat, there are applications such as vent, AIM, and so forth that allow chat/talk outside the game.
I don't really know any mmo examples of that either. There are a few other examples from different multiplayer games. But they don't really fail, instead what happens there is what you already described here. People will find a way around limited chat functionality trough the use of vent. Fail was a bit of a strong word to use. A new released mmo with limited chat would not really fail, because people will find a way around it if the rest of the game is good enough. |
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Originally posted by Hhussk
It would be self-regulating if killing the persons avatar had any effect. Like for example, not being able to talk to you anymore. WoW has a different system for that in place, ignoring a players chat. I'm sure Darkfall also has a feature like that (or will have eventually). |
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Originally posted by toddze
and this is new how? We all know what kind of people these type of games attract. Always will be the bottom feeders of the MMO community. There are some exceptions but its well known in general to who these games attract. Yeah anyone that was expecting a friendly community with rule sets like this was having a pipe dream......Like many have said Darkfall is a niche game and unfortunately that niche is not a good one. |
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Originally posted by grimal
LOL what did you expect? You are obviously not "hardcore" enough to play Darkfall.
Wait did you say ask a question in chat? Didn't know the chat worked I better go buy a copy of this game now. O wait.... |
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Originally posted by Grunties
With all the time you have spent coming into the darkfall board to flame the posters it amazes me that you feel you can take the moral highground with any sense of honesty. Seems you are just as low as they are. Wear the medal with pride, son, you've earned it. WoWers putting hits on Darkfallers... lol. Its like Saddam putting out a jihad on bin Ladin. Maybe they will destroy eachother so the *true* civilized world can have a place to go to talk about games. With all the ridiculous generalisations that get made by the DF community about WoW players, I think it's only fair that I paint them with the same broad brush. |
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Worst community? have you ever played F2p MMOs? the communities in most F2p are horrid. Playing: EvE, Ryzom |
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Originally posted by Hhussk I take you haven't read the Forumfall. Darkfall is THE WORST community I have ever seen, by far. It's not the nature of chat (????) it's the nature of every sick individual that forms that community.
EDIT: I just read this thread by Holymonk about why he unsubscribed DF www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/229085/Why-I-unsubscribed-from-Darkfall.html after writing my reply. Many of us "trolls"said months ago that this community would be harmful for the future of the game. I will paste this part here: "The amount of asshats in the community always totally amazes me. I thought that maybe in game it wouldnt be as bad because people would want to protect their name ingame and not be known as complete idiots but I was wrong. The amount of people that run around acting like 12 year olds after a pack or 2 of wizz fizz is just amazing and reminds me that I am on the internet with people who just have no respect. The people in game are like the people on darkfalls forums. Complete douches. This was a major contributing factor to me leaving the game. The community is 10x worse than wows. (sorry to bring that game up)"
I do not think you are a troll. I just think your making a snap judgement based on a game that doesn't even have its full community playing yet. I would say that one of the self-regulating features of the system is probably that you can go kill a person who talks smack to you over chat. Can you do that in WoW?
It's not only my "snap" judgment, which by the way is a snap that lasts for about a year following the Forumfall, it's the judgment of many people, even a major site when previewing the game commented about the disgusting community Darkfall has. I haven't seen this in any preview or review. Sorry but Darkfall is a unique case of really sad community. Just go and read the Mortal Online forums, it's like night and day, and it's the same type of game. I just hope that Darkfall keeps their players and doesn't shut down and send them to MO. |
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Hhussk
City of Heroes Correspondent
Joined: 12/18/07
That which surrounds you, becomes you. |
Originally posted by altairzq
I do not think you are a troll. I just think your making a snap judgement based on a game that doesn't even have its full community playing yet. I would say that one of the self-regulating features of the system is probably that you can go kill a person who talks smack to you over chat. Can you do that in WoW?
It's not only my "snap" judgment, which by the way is a snap that lasts for about a year following the Forumfall, it's the judgment of many people, even a major site when previewing the game commented about the disgusting community Darkfall has. I haven't seen this in any preview or review. Sorry but Darkfall is a unique case of really sad community. Just go and read the Mortal Online forums, it's like night and day, and it's the same type of game. I just hope that Darkfall keeps their players and doesn't shut down and send them to MO.
It's a snap judgement based on the fact that the Darkfall "community" you are referring to is basically less than 30 days old. If, a year from now, Darkfall Online maintains a level of community where people are THE WORST, I would give your comment more credibility. Until then, I'd rather see how things evolve (or devolve) and not make flamboyant accusations. ----------------------------- |
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Hhussk
City of Heroes Correspondent
Joined: 12/18/07
That which surrounds you, becomes you. |
Originally posted by altairzq You are shiny example.
I started by your comment, and I thought I would give you an actual "shining" example of what trolling truly is. Previously, someone commented about "Mortal Online", a possible great contender in the MMO market due to its skill based leveling and sandbox structure. Well, right now, Mortal Online completed its timer; it has reached 00:00:00. Guess what, the site is basically down. The server went bust due to traffic or bad data or both. Now, if you want to troll, all you have to do is say "Mortal Online is obviously fail because they can't even handle a timered event". This is simple trolling because WE KNOW that they will work on fixing their bugs and/or problems. For example, they will likely increase their server load for the next event they prep. In a similar perspective, AV is the same. They make mistakes and have problems as well. And WE KNOW that they'll work on fixing them. TROLLING, however, is saying (repeating actually) that the game wil fail without even acknowledging the ability for it to move forward, evolve, patch problems and otherwise get more income to upgrade their product. This is what separates trolling from informative posts. ----------------------------- |
Originally posted by DarthRaiden You are shiny example.
i am not yet, i will become i said.. you on the other hand is already.. I think he meant that you are a shiny example in general, not just because of your prommise to troll the MO forums :p |
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Originally posted by TalRasha
i am not yet, i will become i said.. you on the other hand is already.. I think he meant that you are a shiny example in general, not just because of your prommise to troll the MO forums :p i guess it was and i take it as compliment afterall ...lol -----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- Everyone who logs into NGE destroys a bit of the SW Universe. No SWG Pre-Cu, No money to the $OE suckers , simple and fair. DON't agree to $OE 's EULA. They change the gameplay without respect your investement. "There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE) |
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