You all know where this is going.  If I see another Elf, Orc or fantasy creature in general, I'm going to hurl.  I simply can' take it anymore.  For the love of all that is holy, someone, somewhere release a decent PVE centric (with consensual PVP or PVP server) SciFi MMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Earthrise, Fallen Earth, STO, are taking too darn long, I cant take this!  I'm ready to download Anarchy Online again or start playing SWG, games many years old just to get away from these fantasy games!!

Any other Scifi fans out there?  Can we demonstrate that we at least exist???? 

PS: I play EVE Online already, I would ideally prefer an avatar that isnt a ship.

/end rant

Thanks for listening! 

Isn't stargate online coming out this year? Don't know if it's any good, but I don't think they have any dwarves or elves there.

I hear your rant, and agree with you!  I am on old SWG vet, but lets not even go down that road of why I don't play that bastardized game anymore...  I have played Eve, but I have the same gripes about it that you do.  An awesome sci-fi MMO is needed desperately.  I mean c'mon - how many times does a developer have to re-hash elves and orcs, before they decide that they have gotten it right, and move onto other horizons?

Amen

P.S. Yes, I still like fantasy MMOs, but they are getting old.  I don't know how I will like the new Jumpgate since i did not play the old one.

I've been playing CoV for years, I don't see any elves or orcs.

Guild Wars has no elves.  Neither does Puzzle Pirates, or A Tale in the Desert, or Wizard101, or Pirates of the Burning Sea, or ...

Basically, there are advantages to humans being the only playable race.   Such as no elves.

I think I'm just sick of girly elves and stupid orcs.

Why can't I have a manly elf? You know...with a manly culture?

Not sissy elves that live in the magical kingdom...elves that live in the harsh northern mountaints that are vicious.

and orcs that don't scratch their head and their balls every time you say a big word. Why can't orcs be intelligent?

and dwarves that aren't necessarily extremely technologically advanced...

I'm just sick of the same-old, same-old fantasy. I absolutely LOVE Fantasy, but mix it up a bit!

anyway...that's MY rant lol

try RFO its got a good deal of PvE action but best of all its PvP RvR means dwarf(with big mechs) elf-like (with summons) and cyborgs(with big guns!).

I love playing accretians just to pound the fantasy type races into the ground XD

ACCRETIAN

VS

BELLATO

VS

CORA

So come join the fight and pound an elf today XD

Answering Capn23.

A good point as well.  But I believe there are many fantasy "fanboys" of old, out there in the world, that dictate "this is how [insert race] acts!  And that's' how its gonna be!". So I don't see that ever changing...

That's why sci-fi is a good idea.  A dev can take the story wherever he/she wants, without having to stay true to "canon" or lore.

I am with you, OP. I mean I love fantasy but I would SO like to see something else.

I always had this dream however to take the classic fantasy races and place them into some NOT medieval setting, maybe Sci-Fi or Steampunk or what. Or a world of our technological level, just with magic and fanatsy races? 

EDIT: I SO agree with Capn23! I like Elves, but I DONT like them sissy-ish! I want some badass warrior Elves! Serious Elves! Like the warrior culture of Tolkien's Beleriand from the Silmarillion, for instance, with guys like Feanor was.

I'm personally on the fence.  In one way, I like having a vast amount of different races to choose from (allows the players to feel unique).  In another way, I agree that there's way too many elves and orcs in the games these days in that medieval setting.

What I would like to see (which the OP may not agree with) is orcs and elves in a futuristic setting (like Warhammer 40k).  Vigil Games is developing "Warhammer 40k Online".... very slowly....

I hear what your saying, I have something special for you;

AfterWorld: Sci-Fi/Aftermath F2P ? sandbox (don't know) http://www.afterworld.ru/

Enjoy!

If only Microsoft would use their Shadowrun license

Ya'll should research DMT, and Terence Mckenna.  I've discovered the success of elves and gnomes is attributed to that.

WoW is the prime example... they nailed that 'inner' space we're distant from, yet relate to, cog wheels, strange apparatuses, inventions, language.  Its truly a trip when you know about it, so try not to judge until you research.

Originally posted by hado

Ya'll should research DMT, and Terence Mckenna.  I've discovered the success of elves and gnomes is attributed to that.

WoW is the prime example... they nailed that 'inner' space we're distant from, yet relate to, cog wheels, strange apparatuses, inventions, language.  Its truly a trip when you know about it, so try not to judge until you research.

I am not 100% I understand. Can you elaborate?

Here the truth.It works and people know what to expect.Other than star wars what sci fi mmo has been huge sucess and star wars has support of the one huge ip in world,even when a star wars products sucks it still does well money wise.As much as people say they want something different they don't support the games.

I bought mass effect awhile back and i stop pretty soon after for another game.A month ago restarted Mass effect and i am just loving the game.I realize i would love to play mmo like that and can't find a good game.If players didn't want elves gamemakers would stop making those games.

Originally posted by Elikal

Originally posted by hado

Ya'll should research DMT, and Terence Mckenna.  I've discovered the success of elves and gnomes is attributed to that.

WoW is the prime example... they nailed that 'inner' space we're distant from, yet relate to, cog wheels, strange apparatuses, inventions, language.  Its truly a trip when you know about it, so try not to judge until you research.

 

I am not 100% I understand. Can you elaborate?

You know I read his post several times and all I got out of it was "I have absolutly no clue what the hell I am talking about."

Originally posted by kverik

Originally posted by Elikal

Originally posted by hado

Ya'll should research DMT, and Terence Mckenna.  I've discovered the success of elves and gnomes is attributed to that.

WoW is the prime example... they nailed that 'inner' space we're distant from, yet relate to, cog wheels, strange apparatuses, inventions, language.  Its truly a trip when you know about it, so try not to judge until you research.

 

I am not 100% I understand. Can you elaborate?

 

You know I read his post several times and all I got out of it was "I have absolutly no clue what the hell I am talking about."

He's trying to say he read books involving some of the stereo types that have been so heavily incorporated into the "modern" fantasy setting, problem is...lots of us HAVE read similar books, played video games, read comics, etc... Nobody's griping because it doesn't make sense, they're griping because the market is flooded with the same rehashed ideas.
 

Originally posted by panzerclaw

If only Microsoft would use their Shadowrun license

QFT

I'm also hoping for a Rifts mmo.  Even tho, at the same time i fear it since i honestly don't see any MMO dev/publisher doing up Rifts with any of the glorious justice it so richly deserves.  That would break my heart.

I agree 100% OP! I really don't like fantasy but am forced to play it in MMOs. Honestly, why does fantasy dominate this genre? Scifi dominates most media, yet were stuck with fantasy for MMOs. Yuck.

Originally posted by Abrahmm

I agree 100% OP! I really don't like fantasy but am forced to play it in MMOs. Honestly, why does fantasy dominate this genre? Scifi dominates most media, yet were stuck with fantasy for MMOs. Yuck.

Because these is the only type of media that fosters the fantasy genre.

I'm not saying sci-fi is bad, but don't get pissy because us fantasy nerds have one bastion other than books.

sci-fi is great too. There are a lot of sci-fi MMORPGs coming out soon. It will be nice for you sci-fi nerds. To each his own.

NOTE: don't take 'nerd' as an offense. just refering to our interest in each of the genres.

Originally posted by Abrahmm

I agree 100% OP! I really don't like fantasy but am forced to play it in MMOs. Honestly, why does fantasy dominate this genre? Scifi dominates most media, yet were stuck with fantasy for MMOs. Yuck.

I love scifi but all sci fi mmo have been very bad,made a huge mistake(SWG,AO,TR) or have a game style that does appeal to masses(EVE).You can hate on the elves all you but even a bad game vanguard is still has a good following,TR was shut down,Earth and Beyond was shut down.High fantasy mmo are consistant they may not good but they rarely fail.

Jumpgate,Fallen Earth,Earthrise,TOR,Stargate worlds and Star trek all coming out in the near future so the elves reign will end soon.

Originally posted by Broomy

You all know where this is going.  If I see another Elf, Orc or fantasy creature in general, I'm going to hurl.  I simply can' take it anymore.  For the love of all that is holy, someone, somewhere release a decent PVE centric (with consensual PVP or PVP server) SciFi MMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Earthrise, Fallen Earth, STO, are taking too darn long, I cant take this!  I'm ready to download Anarchy Online again or start playing SWG, games many years old just to get away from these fantasy games!!

Any other Scifi fans out there?  Can we demonstrate that we at least exist???? 

 

PS: I play EVE Online already, I would ideally prefer an avatar that isnt a ship.

 

/end rant

 

Thanks for listening! 

wow...and you play Eve....I'm so shocked by this

Hint for you....Elves, Dwarves, Orcs.....all are part of fantasy...

stop playing games....

/rolls eyes

You're just sick of tolkein elves, you can write a few lines of lore and make some very interesting elves.

Elves are well known for attending their own funnerals, after all if you're immortal the only way you're ever going to die is if you do it yourself or have someone else do the favor for you.

Elves historical interactions with humans have been amazingly similar to any massive immigration to the states.   "no elve need apply", and similar cases just because most elfs are perfectly happy staying at one job for all eternity which really whacks out the "human" economy.

A common elf joke is that nymphs are stupider than humans,  after all a human slut is smart enough to charge for services rendered.

When two elves split up it's common practice for the children to be sent between the parents every hundred years or so until they're considered adults.

elfs only consider full elfs to be elf, dark elfs/drow and their allies consider themselfs normal elfs as does every race that falls into their sphere of influence(including some oldtimer dwarves) light elfs however would argue otherwise.   a dark elf would also consider anyone who considers themself a dark elf to be just that.

light elven magic is considered reletivly stagnate and limited by most races, especially since the old laws only allow an elven magic user to add one spell to the great library.

dark elven magic is considered to be one of the greatest abominations by nearly any religion, though at the same time very innovative.   You can literally see a paladin and a demonoligist working side by side with no issues or conflictions, their high level magic users can even use demonic and holy magic in the same spell and somehow get to to work amazingly well.

Originally posted by Gestankfaust

Originally posted by Broomy

You all know where this is going.  If I see another Elf, Orc or fantasy creature in general, I'm going to hurl.  I simply can' take it anymore.  For the love of all that is holy, someone, somewhere release a decent PVE centric (with consensual PVP or PVP server) SciFi MMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Earthrise, Fallen Earth, STO, are taking too darn long, I cant take this!  I'm ready to download Anarchy Online again or start playing SWG, games many years old just to get away from these fantasy games!!

Any other Scifi fans out there?  Can we demonstrate that we at least exist???? 

 

PS: I play EVE Online already, I would ideally prefer an avatar that isnt a ship.

 

/end rant

 

Thanks for listening! 

 

wow...and you play Eve....I'm so shocked by this

 

Hint for you....Elves, Dwarves, Orcs.....all are part of fantasy...

 

stop playing games....

 

/rolls eyes

I don't mind elves,orcs,dark elves,humans,dwarfs but new creative races are so much better change of pace

EQ2 Erudites,Iskar,Saranak,Kerra

Darkfall Marhim

Linage 2 Kamel

DDO Warforged

Rohan Dekan,Dhan

Vanguard Vulmane, Kurashasa, Lesser Giants

I hate when games stick to old formula without even attempting to try any thing new.For example why in world do humans have to be average or balance race.Even in the old mmo high fantasy formula you can do something new.It would blow some people one day if the orcs where the magic race and elves where the war filled race.

Originally posted by Capn23

I think I'm just sick of girly elves and stupid orcs.

 

Why can't I have a manly elf? You know...with a manly culture?

 

Not sissy elves that live in the magical kingdom...elves that live in the harsh northern mountaints that are vicious.

 

and orcs that don't scratch their head and their balls every time you say a big word. Why can't orcs be intelligent?

 

and dwarves that aren't necessarily extremely technologically advanced...

 

I'm just sick of the same-old, same-old fantasy. I absolutely LOVE Fantasy, but mix it up a bit!

 

anyway...that's MY rant lol

That's because most of these fantasy MMOs are just recycling Tolkien's work to create their "lore". I love Tolkien, but I agree that other games should try to be more original.

I'm really excited about several of the sci-fi MMOs on the horizon, but what I really want is a Cyberpunk style MMO. I'd want it to take place in space for the most part(on ships and space stations) and have both ship and avatar combat, kinda like SWG. Oh well, I guess I'll keep on dreaming...