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wyrdaskolir

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Joined: 2/13/09
Posts: 408

 
3/15/09 11:17:07 PM#1

I'm not trying to insult anyone here. This is just my opinion and I am neither a troll nor fanboy.

IMO the "trolls" are the people who keep reading about the negative points of Darkfall in a forum such as this and then they begin to get those ideas stuck in their head and are persuaded to post those negative points of the game. This results in a chain reaction you see. Once the first few people began to be insecure about the fact that Darkfall was a new type of game, they began insulting in hopes of it being like horrible games such as Dark and Light. Most "trolls" who actually buy the game are "half-troll", they are hopeful of the fact that the game fails but they buy the game anyway. They enter the game with terrible expectations and find every reason to bash on Darkfall. Oh this and that sucks, this isn't perfect and that isn't what I want. Well heres the truth - there will NEVER be a perfect game that appeals to every person on the dam world. You need to play the game with neutral expectations and look at both the pros and cons in order to not be a troll.

The "fanboys" are people who decide not to insult every problem about the game and defends those factors against the "trolls".  They look at the positive parts of Darkfall and emphasize those areas - such as no target selections, massive and unique world, no levels (skill levels are there but you still can get started in the game on Day 1), etc. "Fanboys" understand the fact that there are few games similar to Darkfall as there are millions trillions billions of WoW clones on the market today. This is the only chance and the pros of Darkfall are good enough to outweigh the cons.

Once the ordering/bug/queue issues are resolved, then many people will stop trolling; I have noticed that most people troll about the stupid and rocky staged release that Aventurine followed through.

Murdus

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Posts: 512

travel is dangerous

3/15/09 11:27:23 PM#2
Originally posted by wyrdaskolir

I am neither a troll nor fanboy.

 

Such as no target selections, massive and unique world, no levels (skill levels are there but you still can get started in the game on Day 1), etc. "Fanboys" understand the fact that there are few games similar to Darkfall as there are millions trillions billions of WoW clones on the market today. This is the only chance and the pros of Darkfall are good enough to outweigh the cons.

 

Ahahaha

what

Die_Scream

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Posts: 1500

"I don''t care! I''m gonna eat somebody."

3/15/09 11:29:32 PM#3

So to sum up your clumsy attempt at labeling anyone who finds fault with the game a troll:

Fanboy = good.

Troll = Anyone who disagrees.

"nerf rock, paper is working as intended."

- Scissors.

Kyleran

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3/15/09 11:31:08 PM#4

Hmm, not to be insulting, but you attributed mostly positive traits to fans, and negative traits to trolls, so hence I think you're a closet fanboi.

Many trolls are skeptical that DF/Aventurine can ever deliver a decent game experience, and you are right, perhaps no game will ever be to their liking.

What you are suggesting is that fans make allowances for DF's shortcomings because its a rare breed, perhaps almost one of a kind, but those who hold DF to a higher standard are narrow minded trolls.

To me there's little difference between the two camps, just two sides of the same coin really.

 

 

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Fadedbomb

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3/15/09 11:33:20 PM#5

Heres what they are by definition:

 

A Troll: "An individual who starts a new thread, or reply, with the intent to souly bait anyone and everyone into an argument with the single intent to cause michief and anger amongst those whom disagree with the troll."

 

A Fanboi: "An individual whom hangs on every word of a developer, or community rep, that will NOT under ANY circumstances look beyond their current 'last hope for their gaming (career)' and think logically about what the pitfalls may actually be with their beautiful 'one of a kind' game."

 

It's very hard to be neither of the two, as most of the time you will be labeled as a "Fanboi" if you say ANYTHING good about a game by trolls, and vice versa. :/

Die_Scream

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Posts: 1500

"I don''t care! I''m gonna eat somebody."

3/15/09 11:33:33 PM#6
Originally posted by Kyleran

To me there's little difference between the two camps, just two sides of the same coin really. 

Ding ding ding!

Winner!

"nerf rock, paper is working as intended."

- Scissors.

Quenranel

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3/15/09 11:36:06 PM#7

^exactly

fanboys like to troll.

altairzq

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SOE
"Ruining games for money since 2002"

3/15/09 11:41:39 PM#8

How old are you? 16?

Union

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Posts: 47

3/16/09 1:05:32 AM#9
Originally posted by wyrdaskolir

millions trillions billions

 

/facepalm

TalRasha

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Posts: 595

3/16/09 5:31:09 AM#10

Difference between "Trolls" and "Fanboys"?

That statement makes no sense. "Fanboys" are trolls. Just as much as "Haters" are.

 

The only people on this forum who are not trolls are the people who either like or dislike (or don't know yet) the game without making a fuss over it.

xTwiSteDx

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Posts: 135

3/16/09 6:16:12 AM#11

Fanboys = people who like the game and will defend it.

 

Trolls = people who don't and will attack it.

 

Trolls declare someone to be a fanboy yet fanboys declare who is a troll...

SO WHO IS PHONE?!?!

 

Currently playing : Aion

altairzq

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SOE
"Ruining games for money since 2002"

3/16/09 9:26:01 AM#12
Originally posted by Union
Originally posted by wyrdaskolir

millions trillions billions

 

/facepalm

 

LOL

Gestankfaust

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3/16/09 11:05:15 PM#13

both are the same...and not.....

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xaldraxius

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Posts: 818

3/16/09 11:11:46 PM#14


Originally posted by xTwiSteDx
Fanboys = people who like the game and will defend it.
 
Trolls = people who don't and will attack it.
 
Trolls declare someone to be a fanboy yet fanboys declare who is a troll...
SO WHO IS PHONE?!?!
 

Who's a phone? I don't know, who are you trying to call?

Die_Scream

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Joined: 9/11/06
Posts: 1500

"I don''t care! I''m gonna eat somebody."

3/16/09 11:14:11 PM#15
Originally posted by xaldraxius

 


Originally posted by xTwiSteDx
Fanboys = people who like the game and will defend it.
 
Trolls = people who don't and will attack it.
 
Trolls declare someone to be a fanboy yet fanboys declare who is a troll...
SO WHO IS PHONE?!?!
 

 

Who's a phone? I don't know, who are you trying to call?

 

um..Ghostbusters?

"nerf rock, paper is working as intended."

- Scissors.

xaldraxius

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Posts: 818

3/16/09 11:15:32 PM#16


Originally posted by Die_Scream

Originally posted by xaldraxius

 



Originally posted by xTwiSteDx
Fanboys = people who like the game and will defend it.
 
Trolls = people who don't and will attack it.
 
Trolls declare someone to be a fanboy yet fanboys declare who is a troll...
SO WHO IS PHONE?!?!
 


 
Who's a phone? I don't know, who are you trying to call?


 
um..Ghostbusters?

WIN!

UsedManatee

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Joined: 12/18/05
Posts: 137

3/16/09 11:16:58 PM#17
Originally posted by Die_Scream
Originally posted by xaldraxius

 


Originally posted by xTwiSteDx
Fanboys = people who like the game and will defend it.
 
Trolls = people who don't and will attack it.
 
Trolls declare someone to be a fanboy yet fanboys declare who is a troll...
SO WHO IS PHONE?!?!
 

 

Who's a phone? I don't know, who are you trying to call?

 

um..Ghostbusters?

 

I *almost* put that in...

How dare you present him with logic! Don't you understand? He fights epic fights, in epic games, with epic toons....eats epic food and takes epic dumps! He has more e..pic..icity...ness in his little finger than you have in your whole unepic body! - ChicagoCub

Die_Scream

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Posts: 1500

"I don''t care! I''m gonna eat somebody."

3/16/09 11:19:05 PM#18
Originally posted by UsedManatee
Originally posted by Die_Scream
Originally posted by xaldraxius

 


Originally posted by xTwiSteDx
Fanboys = people who like the game and will defend it.
 
Trolls = people who don't and will attack it.
 
Trolls declare someone to be a fanboy yet fanboys declare who is a troll...
SO WHO IS PHONE?!?!
 

 

Who's a phone? I don't know, who are you trying to call?

 

um..Ghostbusters?

 

I *almost* put that in...

 

Yeah, I considered before hitting submit, then figured, it's a doomed thread, might as well get a post count.

"nerf rock, paper is working as intended."

- Scissors.

boxfetish

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Joined: 2/06/08
Posts: 34

3/16/09 11:20:22 PM#19
Originally posted by Die_Scream

So to sum up your clumsy attempt at labeling anyone who finds fault with the game a troll:

Fanboy = good.

Troll = Anyone who disagrees.

 

QFT.

OP is a...

Fanboy
Troll
Idiot
1. and 3.
(login to vote)
xaldraxius

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Joined: 10/07/05
Posts: 818

3/16/09 11:20:27 PM#20


Originally posted by Die_Scream

Originally posted by UsedManatee

Originally posted by Die_Scream

Originally posted by xaldraxius

 



Originally posted by xTwiSteDx
Fanboys = people who like the game and will defend it.
 
Trolls = people who don't and will attack it.
 
Trolls declare someone to be a fanboy yet fanboys declare who is a troll...
SO WHO IS PHONE?!?!
 


 
Who's a phone? I don't know, who are you trying to call?


 
um..Ghostbusters?


 
I *almost* put that in...


 
Yeah, I considered before hitting submit, then figured, it's a doomed thread, might as well get a post count.

Of course I should have said: 'Who ya gonna call?'

Die_Scream

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Joined: 9/11/06
Posts: 1500

"I don''t care! I''m gonna eat somebody."

3/16/09 11:25:22 PM#21
Originally posted by xaldraxius

 


Originally posted by Die_Scream

Originally posted by UsedManatee

Originally posted by Die_Scream

Originally posted by xaldraxius

 

 



Originally posted by xTwiSteDx
Fanboys = people who like the game and will defend it.
 
Trolls = people who don't and will attack it.
 
Trolls declare someone to be a fanboy yet fanboys declare who is a troll...
SO WHO IS PHONE?!?!
 


 
Who's a phone? I don't know, who are you trying to call?


 
um..Ghostbusters?


 
I *almost* put that in...


 
Yeah, I considered before hitting submit, then figured, it's a doomed thread, might as well get a post count.

 

Of course I should have said: 'Who ya gonna call?'

Remember when Huey Lewis and the News sued them for ripping off "I want a New Drug" song for the Ghostbusters theme song?

...Geez I'm old...

"nerf rock, paper is working as intended."

- Scissors.

jimmyman99

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Posts: 2692

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3/17/09 2:06:24 AM#22

Fanbois are blind and cannot see reality.

Trolls are deaf and do not listen to reason.

I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.

0k21

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Joined: 4/10/05
Posts: 878

3/17/09 4:22:15 AM#23

Until I see some significant changes in Darkfall that point towards the games original design and not some half-assed piece of crap which has been drastically altered to serve the fanbois then I will gladly rip both this game apart and Aventurine like any other games company that both forgets their promises and the game that they originally were wanting to make.

I am the enemy of any who destroy creativity and free thinking

Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.