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General Discussion  » my neutral reasons why AoC is the best MMO as of now !

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  Naranar

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Joined: 10/13/08
Posts: 98

3/09/09 9:50:21 PM#41

i cant argue with you.

you want a bug free software !  which means you will never be satisfied.

doesnt exist yet ! sorry

 

Oh really and where did i stated that?

If you would bother stop pulling things from your *** and read what I'm saying maybe we could get somewhere.

All i want is a patch that

-Wont make me disconnect every 10 minutes

-Wont Make me lag spike every 2 minutes

All in all i want a game that is playable... something game wasn't after patch as it wans't at launch 

Oh and tell me of that server of yours I'm really hooked in!

  Cynthe

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Joined: 5/22/06
Posts: 1414

Dreamer, dream me a gift.

3/09/09 9:54:11 PM#42
Originally posted by Naranar

-Wont make me disconnect every 10 minutes

-Wont Make me lag spike every 2 minutes


 

That problem was just fixed for me with the latest patch, don't ask me why, I've no clue. lol Tried many things to fix it myself without any change and then BOOM it's all good. The game now runs smooth as butter just like before the humongous 1.04 patch.

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  _Shadowmage

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3/09/09 9:54:37 PM#43


Originally posted by clearSam
 
Sound and Music

Graphics

Lore

Potential




You forgot fun. Most people dont play games for their potential.

NASA come close to making bug free software. 99.9% error free for the Shuttle software, and it only costs them $35 million a year. Not something that most gaming companies could afford to do though. http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/06/writestuff.html

  Naranar

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3/09/09 9:56:53 PM#44

 

That problem was just fixed for me with the latest patch, don't ask me why, I've no clue. lol But the game runs smooth as butter just like before the humongous 1.04 patch.

 

I'm afraid you misunderstood me i didnt said ANYWHERE the problem is right now I just didnt said that!

All i said that this problem was after the miracle super huge content savior of AoC 1.4 though it is fixed now it wont change a damn thing i couldn't play for 5 days without getting disconnect or killed by a super mob in lag.

  Cynthe

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3/09/09 10:01:57 PM#45
Originally posted by Naranar

 

That problem was just fixed for me with the latest patch, don't ask me why, I've no clue. lol But the game runs smooth as butter just like before the humongous 1.04 patch.

 

I'm afraid you misunderstood me i didnt said ANYWHERE the problem is right now I just didnt said that!

All i said that this problem was after the miracle super huge content savior of AoC 1.4 though it is fixed now it wont change a damn thing i couldn't play for 5 days without getting disconnect or killed by a super mob in lag.

 

Yes I know that's what happened to me as well, but there was another patch some days ago, and it's great now...... I'm not trying to convince just informing you. :)

Although there's another update tomorrow so who knows how that will go.. lol

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  Naranar

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Posts: 98

3/09/09 10:09:13 PM#46
Originally posted by Cynthe

 

Yes I know that's what happened to me as well, but there was another patch some days ago, and it's great now...... I'm not trying to convince just informing you. :)

Although there's another update tomorrow so who knows how that will go.. lol

 

Yep game is running fine now it's good to see FunCom can solve it's problems quickly but also sad to see they still cant avoid them.

Though i cant still see this game The best MMO as of now i still can see it a good chance to go upwards if FunCom wont shoot themselves in foot once again with 1.5 .

  clearSam

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Joined: 2/17/09
Posts: 320

 
OP  3/09/09 10:31:40 PM#47
Originally posted by Cynthe
Originally posted by clearSam
Originally posted by Cynthe

I just have one question what do you have against LotrO? I mean really LotrO? :S Turbine is a great company in my experience far more reliable then Funcom. Back when I played regularly they always listened to the players so I'm not sure what you're talking about there.

It's great that you want to talk about the good things in Conan but you lose me as soon as you put down other games to do it.

 

-pre-last gen graphics

-pitiful sound, and i dont even recall the music...

-taking the best fantasy movie EVER and squeezing a blemished, cold, full of nothingness mmo out of it.

 

LoTRO is the typical commercial product based only on the success of the franchise.

like Doom 3, Doom the movie etc...

so yes, i have a strong opinion against any company who thinks they can make money out of fanboys without working hard for it.

and if you like numbers: 10 million know WoW and there are 4 Billion who know Lord of the Rings as a franchise

so where are the numbers?

if LoTRO is the MMO you think it is, then it should be on the TOP of everything else.

 

I'm sorry those are your opinions only and many, many would vehemently disagree with you.

-Music: LotrO's score is very compelling.

-Pre last gen graphics? Pardon? LotrO has some of the best environmental graphics of the genre regardless that it's engine isn't as beefed as Conan's. It's artistry is just awesome and you can say that of DDO too though it's older. The character models though that's another issue.

-Cold, full of nothingness? I don't think you've played the game at all.

Numbers? It certainly has a higher player base then AoC, it can't beat WoW no one can, but it is still one of the most played MMOs and with reason. It is a solid game with missions with you follow and many side quests, good crafting system, many avenues for RP, beautiful sweeping landscapes ect...

I'm sorry but I believe in giving credit where credit is due. While I prefer Conan over LotrO I'm not going to be a doofus and actually lie about the game. O.o

 OH! And speaking of franchises you are seriously off your rocker faulting LotrO for being based on Tolkien when Age of CONAN is based on Robert E Howard's Conan books. Which has movies already and is getting another one, not to mention the comics....

Don't make stuff up man.

if im lying and actually never played LoTRO and  just making up stuff, then the game is a great success and is at its full cruising speed, which could only means that  the LoR franchise is not that hot which is not true.

LoR lore is 100x better described, docummented and known than anything else on any other mmo ever, WoW and AoC included, LoR is a global popular culture, if anything had a shot at PWI in terms of number of players and at WoW in terms of revenue it was LoTRO.

now clearly LoTRO is doing... hmmm just ok. which means it is not a great success, and since we agree that the franchise is outstanding  that could only mean that its development and production were massive failures.

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and i think you misunderstood me when i talked about LoR franchise, i didnt say that LoTRO is bad because its based on a franchise, i said that : IF you give a company a BIG FAT franchise title like LoR (the biggest and fattest) and they make out of it an "ok" game then IT is a failure.

  clearSam

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Joined: 2/17/09
Posts: 320

 
OP  3/09/09 10:41:43 PM#48
Originally posted by Naranar

i cant argue with you.

you want a bug free software !  which means you will never be satisfied.

doesnt exist yet ! sorry

 

Oh really and where did i stated that?

If you would bother stop pulling things from your *** and read what I'm saying maybe we could get somewhere.

All i want is a patch that

-Wont make me disconnect every 10 minutes

-Wont Make me lag spike every 2 minutes

All in all i want a game that is playable... something game wasn't after patch as it wans't at launch 

Oh and tell me of that server of yours I'm really hooked in!

if you dont like the way i talk or simply dont like me then thats fine, its not really relevant to the subject,

but i cant picture all the players getting spikes every 2mn and disconnection every 10mn.

no seriously, did that happen to you or youre just making that up?

cause if thats true then im the only one not having spikes and disconnections o_0

 

  clearSam

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Joined: 2/17/09
Posts: 320

 
OP  3/09/09 10:51:47 PM#49
Originally posted by dhayes68
Originally posted by clearSam
 ...

 

Graphics are spectacular. But in such a highly instanced and zoned environment that doesn't really grant a whole lot of freedom of movement, it doesn't add up to as much as it should. Instead of appreciating it, it leaves you wishing there was more.

 

yes it doese, the maps are pretty big for such a detailed world, as for instancing, i agree, im not a fan of zones neither, they should accomodate both cultures: rapid transite points for those in a hurry and open world for those who love free exploring (like myself).

how? leave the system as is and instead of invisible walls they could throw the loading screen for those who want to walk it 30 mn.

however, forcing people to do it one way or the other will always be unfair towards one side.

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as far as Lore, well, you left me with nothing to say:

"The lore. Well, other than names for things it seems pretty underwhelming."

what you want me to say here?

 

  Abrahmm

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Joined: 12/01/05
Posts: 2485

3/09/09 11:08:04 PM#50

Let me get this straight. AoC  is the best game because it has great graphics, good sounds, and potential? Did I miss you talking about the actual important parts of a game, like the actual game play, the game world, and the content? All of which AoC severely underachieves on?

No, your right this is the best game.

Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.

  clearSam

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Joined: 2/17/09
Posts: 320

 
OP  3/09/09 11:13:39 PM#51
Originally posted by Abrahmm

Let me get this straight. AoC  is the best game because it has great graphics, good sounds, and potential? Did I miss you talking about the actual important parts of a game, like the actual game play, the game world, and the content? All of which AoC severely underachieves on?

No, your right this is the best game.

no you didnt miss, you actually skipped everything i said.

  Cynthe

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Joined: 5/22/06
Posts: 1414

Dreamer, dream me a gift.

3/09/09 11:16:34 PM#52
Originally posted by clearSam
Originally posted by Naranar

i cant argue with you.

you want a bug free software !  which means you will never be satisfied.

doesnt exist yet ! sorry

 

Oh really and where did i stated that?

If you would bother stop pulling things from your *** and read what I'm saying maybe we could get somewhere.

All i want is a patch that

-Wont make me disconnect every 10 minutes

-Wont Make me lag spike every 2 minutes

All in all i want a game that is playable... something game wasn't after patch as it wans't at launch 

Oh and tell me of that server of yours I'm really hooked in!

if you dont like the way i talk or simply dont like me then thats fine, its not really relevant to the subject,

but i cant picture all the players getting spikes every 2mn and disconnection every 10mn.

no seriously, did that happen to you or youre just making that up?

cause if thats true then im the only one not having spikes and disconnections o_0

 

 It's completely true and happened to me as well. Obviously it didn't happen to many after the hotfix but there was still some sort of issue with a few of us.

As for your LotrO rant up there. All I'm saying is your devaluing  a game that is doing very well with an undeniably bigger community then AoC for no good reason at all. It's ok to like AoC better then LotrO but not to say it's a marginally better game. It really isn't. Don't think that means AoC is bad either. I've expressed many times how I love aspects of this game.

And yes I misunderstood you on your franchise stance, however your own argument falls flat since if you go by that logic then AoC fails and will keep failing. Hopefully that won't be the case.

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  Abrahmm

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Joined: 12/01/05
Posts: 2485

3/09/09 11:19:01 PM#53
Originally posted by clearSam
Originally posted by Abrahmm

Let me get this straight. AoC  is the best game because it has great graphics, good sounds, and potential? Did I miss you talking about the actual important parts of a game, like the actual game play, the game world, and the content? All of which AoC severely underachieves on?

No, your right this is the best game.

no you didnt miss, you actually skipped everything i said.

 

I didn't skip anything, you just didn't say much of value. You made claims that AOC is the best MMO because of it's graphics, sound, and potential. Thats a pretty horrible basis for whether a game is good or not.

Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.

  clearSam

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Joined: 2/17/09
Posts: 320

 
OP  3/09/09 11:34:05 PM#54
Originally posted by Cynthe
Originally posted by clearSam
Originally posted by Naranar

i cant argue with you.

you want a bug free software !  which means you will never be satisfied.

doesnt exist yet ! sorry

 

Oh really and where did i stated that?

If you would bother stop pulling things from your *** and read what I'm saying maybe we could get somewhere.

All i want is a patch that

-Wont make me disconnect every 10 minutes

-Wont Make me lag spike every 2 minutes

All in all i want a game that is playable... something game wasn't after patch as it wans't at launch 

Oh and tell me of that server of yours I'm really hooked in!

if you dont like the way i talk or simply dont like me then thats fine, its not really relevant to the subject,

but i cant picture all the players getting spikes every 2mn and disconnection every 10mn.

no seriously, did that happen to you or youre just making that up?

cause if thats true then im the only one not having spikes and disconnections o_0

 

 It's completely true and happened to me as well. Obviously it didn't happen to many after the hotfix but there was still some sort of issue with a few of us.

As for your LotrO rant up there. All I'm saying is your devaluing  a game that is doing very well with an undeniably bigger community then AoC for no good reason at all. It's ok to like AoC better then LotrO but not to say it's a marginally better game. It really isn't. Don't think that means AoC is bad either. I've expressed many times how I love aspects of this game.

And yes I misunderstood you on your franchise stance, however your own argument falls flat since if you go by that logic then AoC fails and will keep failing. Hopefully that won't be the case.

ok, and supose you got disconnected 10 times right after the patch? would that imply that the game sucks? what kind of reasoning is this? or is it because its Funcom?

i remember well when CCP launched Quantum rise expan... there were bigger issues, but yet, nobody was bitching like these guys in here... it seems that some people  just got used to it.

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yes, i personally think that AoC was and is still a failure compairing to the franchise, i never claimed otherwise.

even though LoR is much heavier than Conan.

while Funcom at least invested in heavy gfx and REAL music (and you know that those are very costly) LoR was fitted with an ok engine and was poorly produced leaning heavily on the LoR franchise name and on the movie  fan base to sell.

and thats where potential comes to play, AoC can be fixed while LoTRO cant ! they simply need to recreate everything with high productive quality and make LoTRO 2 if they want to pull it out. 

 

so there is no rant up, only facts and numbers, if LoTRO was well made, it should have been the biggest mmo to ever hit the market, its clearly not, loving it and advcocating for it will not change reality.

  BarCrow

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3/09/09 11:35:32 PM#55
Originally posted by Loke666

I agree with the OP about AoCs good points. However the game still needs another year because the content is still kinda small.

Graphics can BTW be improved but it is hard work that takes a long time.

That AoC misses some of the things that was supposed to be in since launch is off course annoying but not that of a big deal. As I see it is the big problems right now that we need a lot more content both high end and low end.

Low end content because repetition is boring and when you create an alt you will do almost the same quests as your old character, with the exception of lvl 20-30. That makes level up an alt boring compared to games like EQ2 and Wow where you can level up an alt without doing any quest your main did.

And high end content, there just ain't enough of it. Even with OT: Common it still needs more.

These things will be fixed eventually but I think AoC will need an expansion or even 2 to reach it's potential. The good news is that it is fun to play, particulary in groups so it will be intresting to see where the game are in 2 years.

Someone said that AoC was made for Hardcore PvP:ers but I kinda doubt that, there was speculations of that since launch but other games are doing that better. Average PvP is fun but not as good as in Guildwars at the moment. But the game is still evolving so we will see where it ends up, but I kinda doubt it will ever be truly "hardcore", players who wants that will probably be more happy about Darkfall.

And while I am at it, a screenshot of Ymirs pass, the first large outdoor zone added in the game:

Thank you...finally..a response that makes sense. ..not just...."NO BARROOM BRAWLING"...and "WORST LAUNCH EVERZ"..GO AWAY FAILCOM". You make good points and I agree........I myself...really like the game..is it perfect?..no. Over the next  year..with more updates and patches it will only get better. Will I be playing it in a year?..who knows.. A lot of mmo's coming out and I am not rich. Chances are it will still be one of my active mmos.

 

To the OP: I like LotrO too..but agree with your assessment. I think it is a beautifully made game and mostly fun to play...but the middle-earth stories are finite. There is an obvious end to the story. how many times is the ring going to be thrown in the volcano...lol. The great thing about Conan is it was many short stories...with no definitive ending..which leaves much more to the imagination when playing the game.. .imo.

  clearSam

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OP  3/09/09 11:42:29 PM#56
Originally posted by Abrahmm
Originally posted by clearSam
Originally posted by Abrahmm

Let me get this straight. AoC  is the best game because it has great graphics, good sounds, and potential? Did I miss you talking about the actual important parts of a game, like the actual game play, the game world, and the content? All of which AoC severely underachieves on?

No, your right this is the best game.

no you didnt miss, you actually skipped everything i said.

 

I didn't skip anything, you just didn't say much of value. You made claims that AOC is the best MMO because of it's graphics, sound, and potential. Thats a pretty horrible basis for whether a game is good or not.


thats exactly what i said and you are still skipping what i wrote.

ok since you dont wanna read all that stuff  here is a resume:

ALL parts are important in a game, there is no important and less important part in a game.

-great gameplay with 0 anything else = maple story

-great graphics and music with quasi 0 everything else = AoC at launch

 

thats what i said, the only diffrence is potential, while AoC can get extra content and better mechanics (not sure but very possible) Maple story CAN NOT get what AoC have because of logistical (player base) and technical delimiters, they will have to recreate the game or make a new one if they wanna enhance it.

 

  FadeToBlack3

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3/09/09 11:47:41 PM#57

Potential does not equal the best now, it equals a chance for the future.

Wolfenpride: <--Giant fucking sword syndrome.

Probably cause im trying to compensate for miniscule manhood.

  Abrahmm

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3/10/09 12:10:26 AM#58
Originally posted by clearSam
Originally posted by Abrahmm
Originally posted by clearSam
Originally posted by Abrahmm

Let me get this straight. AoC  is the best game because it has great graphics, good sounds, and potential? Did I miss you talking about the actual important parts of a game, like the actual game play, the game world, and the content? All of which AoC severely underachieves on?

No, your right this is the best game.

no you didnt miss, you actually skipped everything i said.

 

I didn't skip anything, you just didn't say much of value. You made claims that AOC is the best MMO because of it's graphics, sound, and potential. Thats a pretty horrible basis for whether a game is good or not.


thats exactly what i said and you are still skipping what i wrote.

ok since you dont wanna read all that stuff  here is a resume:

ALL parts are important in a game, there is no important and less important part in a game.

-great gameplay with 0 anything else = maple story

-great graphics and music with quasi 0 everything else = AoC at launch

 

thats what i said, the only diffrence is potential, while AoC can get extra content and better mechanics (not sure but very possible) Maple story CAN NOT get what AoC have because of logistical (player base) and technical delimiters, they will have to recreate the game or make a new one if they wanna enhance it.

 

 

And yet, by this statement, you are claiming AoC to be the best based on something you know absolutely nothing about. You have no idea how well AoC was programmed, and how well it can be enhanced. You have no idea how hard or easy it is to change any games core mechanics. Truth be told, with enough work, any game can be made into nearly anything. You simply don't know how well AoC can be enhanced given it's current technical designs, and therefore your idea of "potential" is either completely baseless as all games have potential, or a complete assumption.

Calling AoC the "Best MMO out now" is a bold statement, and you have very very little to back it up with. Potential is as worthless as hopes, wishes and dreams.

Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.

  blindside044

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3/10/09 12:19:16 AM#59
Originally posted by clearSam
 
  • Sound and Music
  • Graphics

bugs can be fixed, content can be added, but gfx can NOT be enhanced.

  • Lore

 I think the free world was in real need of something other than Elfs VS Humans VS Orcs VS Gobblins VS Dwarfs... so it was about time someone gets creative again.

  • Potential

As a whole, AoC is the game with most potential on the market, while some people argue that other fantasy mmos have more potential, i see AoC as the only one that have a REAL potential of being an EPIC mmo not just another mmo, without going into details, we know that WoW have nowhere to go but down! LOTRO, and with all my respect to the (LoR franchise) is useless, WAR is well... just another ok MMO with nothing else but PvP 24/7... 

WoW and LoTRO have the most arrogant companies behid them, which makes any positive feedback from users quasi impossible, and even more, the user base is indeed very young, and therfore not to be taken seriously...

 


 

*my OPINIONS (kinda like the original post was ;) ) are coming from a month of play (cancelled about a month ago)* (note: I enjoyed the combat and just the general gameplay, but a lot of the content was boring. I do plan on subbing in the future as I do like the core game, just not a lot of content.. I hope a lot is added and improved :) )

- Sound and Music: Didn't find anything that stood out. It was all good, but nothing stood out for me to say, "Wow, this game has really good sound/music". The only time I have said that was in one certain area (certain parts in Evendim) in LoTRO. In terms of environment though, LoTRO easily takes the cake. I LOVE exploring in that game whereas in AoC there where a decent amount of areas I just wanted to get out of cause it was just... lifeless.. boring.

- GFX: I play all games with gfx maxed out and AoC is 'tied' with LoTRO. Both have awesome gfx, but they are different artistic styles... so I can't really say one is better than the other. It's personal preference between the two and I PREFER LoTRO's over AoC's. And regarding the gfx cannot be enhanced comment: see Eve Online.  :)  ...though it pretty much never happens other than that one time  :P

- Lore: Once again, personal preference but I too am a little tired of seeing the same races in pretty much every game. Though it doesn't bother me in LoTRO because, well... it is the LoTR, the original, the king of anything fantasy.  :)  How can you NOT like LoTR?!? The stories are fantastic! (see that personal preference right there :) ) The quest storylines are very well written and really immsersive whereas AoC just felt generic.

- Potentional: yea... without going into ANY details, this point was pretty much useless. What potentional? I know I can't fucken wait till Turbine expands Middle Earth in LoTRO... and we get into some of the most epic and legendary areas in all of fantasy lore!

 edit: From my post it almost sounded like I am saying AoC sucks, which it doesnt. It's actually one of the very fews MMOs I have enjoyed playing (and I have tried A LOT). Enough fun content just wasnt there... like I said, a couple more content updates and im resubbing. But it definitely is not the best MMO out as of now.  :)

  _Shadowmage

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3/10/09 1:19:55 AM#60


Originally posted by clearSam
now clearly LoTRO is doing... hmmm just ok. which means it is not a great success, and since we agree that the franchise is outstanding  that could only mean that its development and production were massive failures.

and i think you misunderstood me when i talked about LoR franchise, i didnt say that LoTRO is bad because its based on a franchise, i said that : IF you give a company a BIG FAT franchise title like LoR (the biggest and fattest) and they make out of it an "ok" game then IT is a failure.


So you are saying LOTRO is a failure because it has a really big franchise but more subs than AOC?

That would make AOC a total disaster as it has a poor franchise and worse subs than LOTRO.


we know that WoW have nowhere to go but down!


Really - how do you know this? WoW added more than a million players last year, and the base game and the expansion were the two best selling PC games for 2008. So both sold more copies than AOC or WAR.

Three of my work colleagues have gone back to playing WoW - after trying AoC and WAR. Prior to the expansion they hadnt played WoW in over a year.

I would say the only MMO title coming out that stands to gather serious numbers is the Bioware - Star Wars mmo. Great company, great franchise.

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