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coffee

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Joined: 8/28/05
Posts: 1778

 
3/05/09 6:47:57 PM#1

3.1.0 is more than just a massive 10/25man raid dungeon .. here are some videos showing the new stuff


Swimming mounts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCbtteGKZNk


Mounted combat (Event - very early stages of development)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGRTtntQOeY&feature=related (the mounts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSW8JFyQK3g&feature=related (how it works)

The ability to prove your worth to a capital city of your choosing through our new mounted combat system
New daily quests to construct the great Argent Crusade coliseum for glorious battles to come
All new rewards - new items, titles, banners, tabards, pets, mounts, and more
All new achievements
Many more festivities, and more to come in future content updates!

Players will find the Argent Tournament in Icecrown. Speaking to any Northrend flight master will get you on track to prove your worth to the Argent Crusade, your faction’s leaders, and all denizens of Azeroth!

 


Gear manager interface
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRrDLiG5GY8&feature=related

Swap out your gear with 1 button ( another communyty mod blizzard built into the game ) useful for duel specs

 


Duel spec interface
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBz5gGSIPu0&feature=related

Although its not set in stone, this is avaliable at lvl 40 for a 1 off fee of 1000 gold, lets you set 2 specs, 2 action bar sets, 2 sets of glyphs and you can swap out gear easily with the gear manager, currently there is no cool down on .. I am sure that will change


Other stuff I could not find videos for

  • New ultra-high graphics setting (higher res outland textures, longer shadow draw distance etc)
  • The usual Class talent/abilities balances and additions
  • Hunters dont consume ammo - get a free bag slot yay!
  • Hunters can call any pet from the stables (30 min cool down -  added to utilize duel specs)
  • Can join BG's from anywhere, no need to visit an NPC
  • Colourblind feature on the mini map icons
  • Hearthstone Cooldown down to 30mins for 1 hour
  • Some changes to wintergrasp to make the southern towers useful
  • New Boss in the Wintergrasp dungeon to fight
  • New Gear, Glyphs, Recipies etc
  • Druids get some unqiue animal forms
  • Plus lots of bug fixes and blizzard magic sprinkled on top

Some videos of Ulduar - 14 boss 10/25man raid dungeon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvGog5jZAEk ( a partial walkthrough this place is epic watch it in HQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ny3LFArwg8&feature=related ( Steel council Boss watch in HQ)

Check youtube for boss fights etc


Enjoy.

Skudd

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/06/09
Posts: 88

3/05/09 6:55:23 PM#2
Originally posted by coffee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvGog5jZAEk ( a partial walkthrough this place is epic watch it in HQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ny3LFArwg8&feature=related ( Steel council Boss watch in HQ)

Check youtube for boss fights etc


Enjoy.

Hmm is there a typo in your post? the video you linked says its the iron council. Unless theres another encounter called the steel council.

"It is my opinion, that my opinions are always right"

coffee

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Joined: 8/28/05
Posts: 1778

 
3/05/09 7:04:36 PM#3
Originally posted by Skudd
Originally posted by coffee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvGog5jZAEk ( a partial walkthrough this place is epic watch it in HQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ny3LFArwg8&feature=related ( Steel council Boss watch in HQ)

Check youtube for boss fights etc


Enjoy.

Hmm is there a typo in your post? the video you linked says its the iron council. Unless theres another encounter called the steel council.


 

Yes that was a shameful typo

tkreep

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/28/06
Posts: 1210

"Old enough to party"
McLovin

3/05/09 10:23:11 PM#4

About the graphics update is it going to be a big change where people will need a 8800GT and up card for it or is it just draw distance, shadows and such?  Like how dungeons and dragons had a big graphics upgrade that even uses DX10.

jusomdude

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/21/06
Posts: 758

Variety is the spice of life, unfortunately, it's also the bane of balance.

3/05/09 10:28:21 PM#5

Any plans to make enhance shams pvp viable? If not, I'll still be sitting out.

Xiaoki

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/07/04
Posts: 941

3/06/09 2:38:29 AM#6


Originally posted by tkreep
About the graphics update is it going to be a big change where people will need a 8800GT and up card for it or is it just draw distance, shadows and such?

The graphics update is only for level 80 epic gear. They will have a new much higher texture resolution.

Lots of great additions but they have said that some of them wont be entirely ready when 3.1 is released.

Zorndorf

Novice Member

Joined: 11/15/07
Posts: 3476

3/06/09 3:49:18 AM#7

Swimming mounts: it all adds to the rumours the next expansion will be about water and ship battles.

 I see one very BIG negative thing (I know you heard that right from old positive Zorn...):

You can join Battlegrounds from everywhere.

A big, big error.

It was ONE of those  elements that destroyed the world feeling of War.

Hopping into a BG will have a bad result on open world activity (just how bad remains to be seen).

-----

I know why they did it in War ---> no battlergroup of server clusters. But Wow didn't need that. Most BG's open within a minute or two because of the 20 grouped servers (at least on the higher levels).

The one exception is AV, but that was mainly because of the AV badges that were no longer needed.

I think they corrected the need to have AV badges in patch 3.1 ? Isn't it?

So all good things, but the joining of a BG from everywhere is NOT good for an mmorpg.

It shows you really really have to wait and see before jumping "in" a new trend. Even for Blizzard.

Zorndorf

Novice Member

Joined: 11/15/07
Posts: 3476

3/06/09 3:56:37 AM#8
Originally posted by tkreep

About the graphics update is it going to be a big change where people will need a 8800GT and up card for it or is it just draw distance, shadows and such?  Like how dungeons and dragons had a big graphics upgrade that even uses DX10.


 

I think the moment has arrived I change my 7600 GT into something new.

My frame rates drop to 20 something in Dalaran and I am not even using shadowing.

For those also considering this: try to look at your IO ports and speed of your HD's too. This is more important than you think.

Before WotLK I had almost double FPS, so I had to retune my settings (1680 * 1050) to 1440 * 900 with the expansion.

I think the art deserves to be viewed on max monitor resolutions these days.

 

Smikis

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Joined: 11/27/04
Posts: 687

3/07/09 9:09:58 PM#9
Originally posted by tkreep

About the graphics update is it going to be a big change where people will need a 8800GT and up card for it or is it just draw distance, shadows and such?  Like how dungeons and dragons had a big graphics upgrade that even uses DX10.

 

single 8800gt , with everything max, atleast on most used rez 1680v1050.. cant run wow at 60 fps most of the time anyway

 

its not big change.. there is updated armor/weapon models for wotlk gear.. and some sprites.. no clue tbh.. its not a big of change.. its ptr yet.. and so on..

http://smikislt.mybrute.com

tro44_1

Elite Member

Joined: 6/20/06
Posts: 948

I Love the Holy Warrior Archtype

3/08/09 4:46:24 AM#10

Great

But why is this mounted combat being added?

Also whats the perpose of this new Arugent Crusade place?

Do Caster classes get different Mount attacks?

Block as a mage?

Gravarg

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/24/06
Posts: 580

3/08/09 4:58:33 AM#11

meh. I'll stick with Dark Age of Camelot.  Doesn't have mount combat, but combat in general is still better :)


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friidrick

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Joined: 8/23/08
Posts: 33

3/08/09 7:43:40 AM#12

 i like most of the updates... but the swimming mounts?? why?!

Joining a BG anywhere is a BAD idea :/

 

 

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Played: Everquest, runescape, archlord,lineage, lotro

Waiting for: Aion

tro44_1

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Joined: 6/20/06
Posts: 948

I Love the Holy Warrior Archtype

3/08/09 8:27:28 AM#13
Originally posted by friidrick

 i like most of the updates... but the swimming mounts?? why?!

Joining a BG anywhere is a BAD idea :/

 

 

 

Its to get ready for the next X-pac which takes place in the sea Mastrom (missspell)

Blizzard stated they wanted to speed up lvling. So they make Mounts not dismount automatically when you get in water. But you still slow down to swim speed.

Zorndorf

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Joined: 11/15/07
Posts: 3476

3/09/09 4:56:57 AM#14
Originally posted by tro44_1
Originally posted by friidrick

 i like most of the updates... but the swimming mounts?? why?!

Joining a BG anywhere is a BAD idea :/

 

 

 

Its to get ready for the next X-pac which takes place in the sea Mastrom (missspell)

Blizzard stated they wanted to speed up lvling. So they make Mounts not dismount automatically when you get in water. But you still slow down to swim speed.


 

Yep the next expansion will be a water expansion with LOTS of sea battles and ship encounters.

Now that we have had the land artillery of WC3 in WotLK we will see the sea battles in Maelstrom. Together with 2 new races, which according to the latest rumours can be played both on Alliance  and Horde side.

I still think the new expansion will launch in the Apr/May 2010 period.

That would mean WotLK will only have 3 patches probably, with the final Lich King encounters in Dec this year. patch 3.1 Mar. patch 3.2 Jul, patch 3.3 Dec.

The reason is they want 2 wide open launch periods for SC2 (Oct 2009) and D3 (Oct 2010).

--

In the meantime though patch 3.1 is good in class possiblities. No doubt the dual specs are much needed and will enhance the gaming fun and choices (remember two sets needed per character).

I love the building of the collosseum effort. I liked the  same game mechanics in earlier content (like the Sunwell island changes).

I still think the joining of the BG's from "anywhere" is a very very bad idea. Apparently taken by the same idiots who changed the Arena rating "hidden rating" system.

 

tro44_1

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Joined: 6/20/06
Posts: 948

I Love the Holy Warrior Archtype

3/09/09 5:24:46 AM#15
Originally posted by Zorndorf
Originally posted by tro44_1
Originally posted by friidrick

 i like most of the updates... but the swimming mounts?? why?!

Joining a BG anywhere is a BAD idea :/

 

 

 

Its to get ready for the next X-pac which takes place in the sea Mastrom (missspell)

Blizzard stated they wanted to speed up lvling. So they make Mounts not dismount automatically when you get in water. But you still slow down to swim speed.


 

Yep the next expansion will be a water expansion with LOTS of sea battles and ship encounters.

Now that we have had the land artillery of WC3 in WotLK we will see the sea battles in Maelstrom. Together with 2 new races, which according to the latest rumours can be played both on Alliance  and Horde side.

I still think the new expansion will launch in the Apr/May 2010 period.

That would mean WotLK will only have 3 patches probably, with the final Lich King encounters in Dec this year. patch 3.1 Mar. patch 3.2 Jul, patch 3.3 Dec.

The reason is they want 2 wide open launch periods for SC2 (Oct 2009) and D3 (Oct 2010).

--

In the meantime though patch 3.1 is good in class possiblities. No doubt the dual specs are much needed and will enhance the gaming fun and choices (remember two sets needed per character).

I love the building of the collosseum effort. I liked the  same game mechanics in earlier content (like the Sunwell island changes).

I still think the joining of the BG's from "anywhere" is a very very bad idea. Apparently taken by the same idiots who changed the Arena rating "hidden rating" system.

 

Whats the hidden rating thing? fill me in plz bro/sistar

PS: I agree the Queue from anywhere thing was a bad idea for max lvl toons, but I am interested more with using that system for LvLing Alts in Battle Grounds when they add the Exp from PvP. So lvling would at least be fun again like in Vanilla WoW.

know what I mean Bro/Sistar

Zorndorf

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Joined: 11/15/07
Posts: 3476

3/09/09 5:59:16 AM#16
Originally posted by tro44_1

Whats the hidden rating thing? fill me in plz bro/sistar

PS: I agree the Queue from anywhere thing was a bad idea for max lvl toons, but I am interested more with using that system for LvLing Alts in Battle Grounds when they add the Exp from PvP. So lvling would at least be fun again like in Vanilla WoW.

know what I mean Bro/Sistar


 

Your "official" arena rating is not your real and hidden arena rating. The hidden rating is based on all your previous results in older seasons. That simply means IF the program thinks you were only worth "1400" worth of PvP rating while with a new team you would begin at 1500, you will loose MORE points when playing against lower rated opponents.

This system pulls everyone down because you will loose 20 points with a loss and gain 2 points when you win on a new team. Hardly motivating for a lot of people.

They wanted to ban the cheaters with it and succeded somewhat (you know the champs that just started at 1500 with a new team but were really 2200's). But in the long run they demotivate play.

It is like saying: hey you were a bad player in the past: even IF you win (2 points up), the next time you will loose we make sure your rating stays low (-20 points down).

Add the ratings on the two FULL highest pvp sets and you know why everyone is waiting for the new season 6 in patch 3.1 where they'll hopefully rectify the problems.

------

Blizzard was far too hardcore in the PvP system ; forgetting that you need to motivate people to play and not get a wall in front of them: unless you are VERY good, you don't get a decent PvP gear or weapon.... through PvP play.... Great but not very motivating to pay subscriptions for. I already said that months ago. The PvP rating system was way to harsh in WotLK.

I guess a few guys at Blizzard read too much garbage on forums ....

As for the joining from anywhere in BG's: it is indeed a bad idea for the high level characters. We will see how it is for the lower BG's.

And of course AV badges should again be included along with the other BG's. They excluded them in the fear no one would do the Lake Wintergrasp fights. But now LW is even too popular because of too many players, they should push AV again.

All this shows Blizzard needs to read less the forums and do what they are good at: make the games, don't listen to teenage whiners.

-----

 As for leveling alts through PvP only, it is great in WotLK (lvl 70 to 80 only)  for doing this : lots of daily PvP quests throughout the content. You could easly level a character from 70 to 80 doing PvP quests in the leveling zones. Your characters will be flagged for PvP in doing these daily quests even on a PVE server. Masses of fun for a druid or rogue. Reputation doesn't even need to suffer as most of these dailies give rep honor.

Wotlk shows it iS possible to level through PvP alone in the open world doing daily PvP quests in the range 70 to 80. I am AGAINST it in the BG's as they will kill the magnifcent world feeling Wow has. Hopping from BG to BG: I gladly hand this over to some other games.  :)))))

Zorndorf

Novice Member

Joined: 11/15/07
Posts: 3476

3/14/09 2:23:00 PM#17
Originally posted by coffee

3.1.0 is more than just a massive 10/25man raid dungeon .. here are some videos showing the new stuff


Swimming mounts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCbtteGKZNk


Mounted combat (Event - very early stages of development)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGRTtntQOeY&feature=related (the mounts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSW8JFyQK3g&feature=related (how it works)

The ability to prove your worth to a capital city of your choosing through our new mounted combat system
New daily quests to construct the great Argent Crusade coliseum for glorious battles to come
All new rewards - new items, titles, banners, tabards, pets, mounts, and more
All new achievements
Many more festivities, and more to come in future content updates!

Players will find the Argent Tournament in Icecrown. Speaking to any Northrend flight master will get you on track to prove your worth to the Argent Crusade, your faction’s leaders, and all denizens of Azeroth!

 


Gear manager interface
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRrDLiG5GY8&feature=related

Swap out your gear with 1 button ( another communyty mod blizzard built into the game ) useful for duel specs

 


Duel spec interface
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBz5gGSIPu0&feature=related

Although its not set in stone, this is avaliable at lvl 40 for a 1 off fee of 1000 gold, lets you set 2 specs, 2 action bar sets, 2 sets of glyphs and you can swap out gear easily with the gear manager, currently there is no cool down on .. I am sure that will change


Other stuff I could not find videos for

  • New ultra-high graphics setting (higher res outland textures, longer shadow draw distance etc)
  • The usual Class talent/abilities balances and additions
  • Hunters dont consume ammo - get a free bag slot yay!
  • Hunters can call any pet from the stables (30 min cool down -  added to utilize duel specs)
  • Can join BG's from anywhere, no need to visit an NPC
  • Colourblind feature on the mini map icons
  • Hearthstone Cooldown down to 30mins for 1 hour
  • Some changes to wintergrasp to make the southern towers useful
  • New Boss in the Wintergrasp dungeon to fight
  • New Gear, Glyphs, Recipies etc
  • Druids get some unqiue animal forms
  • Plus lots of bug fixes and blizzard magic sprinkled on top

Some videos of Ulduar - 14 boss 10/25man raid dungeon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvGog5jZAEk ( a partial walkthrough this place is epic watch it in HQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ny3LFArwg8&feature=related ( Steel council Boss watch in HQ)

Check youtube for boss fights etc


Enjoy.


 

Well the patch is already loading in the background as of today !!!.

It could mean a launch within 10 days !

Let's say .... March 24/25 !!!

Thradar

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/11/07
Posts: 938

3/14/09 2:25:02 PM#18

Pretty impressive!

Considering it takes 6 months for a company that makes hundreds of millions of dollars to push out their first patch since an expansion.

/sarcasm

Zorndorf

Novice Member

Joined: 11/15/07
Posts: 3476

3/14/09 2:33:08 PM#19
Originally posted by Thradar

Pretty impressive!

Considering it takes 6 months for a company that makes hundreds of millions of dollars to push out their first patch since an expansion.

/sarcasm


 Patches 3.01 to 3.09 "you just forgot" ???

Considering it is excatly ... 4 months since WotLK was published. (November 13 th !).

You are way off with your comments. Since it launches before the next Lotro patch, mmm, which game did better ? :)))

/sarcasm off.

 

Simmus

Novice Member

Joined: 12/01/07
Posts: 217

You have much to learn...

3/14/09 2:36:07 PM#20

that nice to hear.

but mount on water ,was meh,do we really need it?

i means ,just go out of the water then mount up..

Play: Dragon Age, World of Warcraft
Played and tried: EQ, EQ2,WOW,Eve,all f2p mmo,archlord,entropia,second life,lotro,war.
Waiting on : Swtor.

Death1942

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/24/07
Posts: 2182

3/14/09 4:24:58 PM#21

yay finally a colourblind feature for the minimap.  God that thing was a pain to use at times.

 

 

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......
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coffee

Guru

Joined: 8/28/05
Posts: 1778

 
3/16/09 3:54:41 AM#22

Blizzard have also updated the amoury with new Areana statistics

http://www.wowinsider.com/2009/03/13/wow-armory-improved-with-powerful-tools/

 

onlinenow225

Novice Member

Joined: 3/25/08
Posts: 392

3/16/09 4:12:15 AM#23
Originally posted by Zorndorf
Originally posted by tro44_1

Whats the hidden rating thing? fill me in plz bro/sistar

PS: I agree the Queue from anywhere thing was a bad idea for max lvl toons, but I am interested more with using that system for LvLing Alts in Battle Grounds when they add the Exp from PvP. So lvling would at least be fun again like in Vanilla WoW.

know what I mean Bro/Sistar


 

Your "official" arena rating is not your real and hidden arena rating. The hidden rating is based on all your previous results in older seasons. That simply means IF the program thinks you were only worth "1400" worth of PvP rating while with a new team you would begin at 1500, you will loose MORE points when playing against lower rated opponents.

This system pulls everyone down because you will loose 20 points with a loss and gain 2 points when you win on a new team. Hardly motivating for a lot of people.

They wanted to ban the cheaters with it and succeded somewhat (you know the champs that just started at 1500 with a new team but were really 2200's). But in the long run they demotivate play.

It is like saying: hey you were a bad player in the past: even IF you win (2 points up), the next time you will loose we make sure your rating stays low (-20 points down).

Add the ratings on the two FULL highest pvp sets and you know why everyone is waiting for the new season 6 in patch 3.1 where they'll hopefully rectify the problems.

------

Blizzard was far too hardcore in the PvP system ; forgetting that you need to motivate people to play and not get a wall in front of them: unless you are VERY good, you don't get a decent PvP gear or weapon.... through PvP play.... Great but not very motivating to pay subscriptions for. I already said that months ago. The PvP rating system was way to harsh in WotLK.

I guess a few guys at Blizzard read too much garbage on forums ....

As for the joining from anywhere in BG's: it is indeed a bad idea for the high level characters. We will see how it is for the lower BG's.

And of course AV badges should again be included along with the other BG's. They excluded them in the fear no one would do the Lake Wintergrasp fights. But now LW is even too popular because of too many players, they should push AV again.

All this shows Blizzard needs to read less the forums and do what they are good at: make the games, don't listen to teenage whiners.

-----

 As for leveling alts through PvP only, it is great in WotLK (lvl 70 to 80 only)  for doing this : lots of daily PvP quests throughout the content. You could easly level a character from 70 to 80 doing PvP quests in the leveling zones. Your characters will be flagged for PvP in doing these daily quests even on a PVE server. Masses of fun for a druid or rogue. Reputation doesn't even need to suffer as most of these dailies give rep honor.

Wotlk shows it iS possible to level through PvP alone in the open world doing daily PvP quests in the range 70 to 80. I am AGAINST it in the BG's as they will kill the magnifcent world feeling Wow has. Hopping from BG to BG: I gladly hand this over to some other games.  :)))))

Is a GREAT Thing.

It only failed in WAR because the entire game revolves around World PvP.

They should have never put in scenarios.

In WoW itworks because as you level your new scrubby character not only do you get exp but you get the honor you need to get the entrly level gear for Arena.

And anything below 70-80 content is useless to go through.  Its one of the many reasons I have quit.  Along with the honor grind needed, and lack of battle groups being balanced.

And when their new expansion comes around, what newbie wants to sit around for 90 soloing to level up to max level, just to have to do the same thing in the form of honor/badges/arena points but for gear instead.

Hell I quit but I didn't even level a new character with the 1-60 being easier.  Besides a DK.  (70 warrior 80 DK)

Its a big turn off.  Yes yes WoW still has a huge population, but Blizzard is not stupid.  They know a lot will be leaving the second a MMO with even half the quality of WoW just for something different.

They do not want their MMO to slowly dwindle.  By making the game extremely accessable to brand spankin new players to not have to deal with an annoying endless solo questing extravaganza just to achully play the game they allow it to further capture the mmo croud as well as hope that the veterans that did not have the time for a secondary character to be able to go through again with another character, also preserving subscriptions.

 

Kordesh

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Joined: 1/12/06
Posts: 1206

3/16/09 4:16:47 AM#24

Mounted combat/riding mounts underwater. Just in case seeing someone without their ass planted on a mount 24/7 wasn't rare enough!

And don't forget dual specs, because god forbid the poor little ones have to actually make a choice about anything.

Seriously, I didn't think it was possible, but they watered things down yet again.

Lord_Marshal

Novice Member

Joined: 2/19/09
Posts: 58

3/16/09 4:20:24 AM#25

Dual speccing makes pure DPS classes even more worthless

Being dismounted when entering the water makes sense to me. It would be cool if we had special water mounts.

 

I dont care about mounted combat, where is my player housing already?

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