UO, EQ, AC, DAOC, all were created with <5 million $ budgets.

Also, these guys are charging AAA prices.

They're NOT indies, period.

Originally posted by BigMango 

 

The fact that it's a very small team with 30 people, has a small budget with no marketing and is showing a lack of professionalism makes it indie enough.

 

I disagree on that, many indie companies make up for the lack of funds with an extraordinary talent and professionalism. In the case of Aventurine, they did that with the 3d engine (for what I have seen in videos). But not with the rest of the game.

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by BigMango 

 

The fact that it's a very small team with 30 people, has a small budget with no marketing and is showing a lack of professionalism makes it indie enough.

 

 

I disagree on that, many indie companies make up for the lack of funds with an extraordinary talent and professionalism. In the case of Aventurine, they did that with the 3d engine (for what I have seen in videos). But not with the rest of the game.

Of course, what I said doesn't imply that "ALL" of the indie companies are unprofessional.

And I am not really talking about the in game either, just look at how they are handling the whole thing.

Anyway, all of this isn't really a problem for me. What I am looking forward to is playing a great game, if it takes some time to get there in the short term I am ready to wait.

Originally posted by BigMango

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by BigMango 

 

The fact that it's a very small team with 30 people, has a small budget with no marketing and is showing a lack of professionalism makes it indie enough.

 

 

I disagree on that, many indie companies make up for the lack of funds with an extraordinary talent and professionalism. In the case of Aventurine, they did that with the 3d engine (for what I have seen in videos). But not with the rest of the game.

 

Of course, what I said doesn't imply that "ALL" of the indie companies are unprofessional.

And I am not really talking about the in game, just look at how they are handling the whole thing.

Anyway, all of this isn't really a problem for me. What I am looking forward to is playing a great game, if it takes some time to get there in the short term I am ready to wait.

Yes, agree. It's a pity they didn't keep the same level of quality and self-demanding. I guess in 8 years lots of things happened, including long periods of 0 productivity, and maybe the good professionals left along the way.