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General Discussion  » Darkfall Online IS a rip off / scam

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Vyre

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Joined: 9/02/04
Posts: 241

3/01/09 1:38:40 PM#51
Originally posted by Omyicanfly

This is a non debatable fact. This game IS a scam / rip off.

Why?

Because they launched it FULLY KNOWING what state it was in. Fully knowing how untested and buggy it was.

They accepted a limited amount of orders for no other reason than to raise money for development.

Darkfall Online is a SCAM.

 

 

The game is great.  Sorry you were left out.

epoq

Novice Member

Joined: 4/22/06
Posts: 22

3/01/09 1:43:17 PM#52

Just another overhyped poorly developed game that will fade away relatively fast and be forgotten.  There are lots of these, face it.  Most of them are F2P, thats the only difference.  Thing about FPS type games is that they get boring quickly.  I played this game for a few hours and it lacks the ability to hold my attention.  At first I thought maybe it was just my ADD but I can play WoW longer in one setting and I despise that game.  Some people like it, some people don't.  The game isn't total crap but I don't think it's wrong to say it's not worth 50 dollars.  Shouldn't have expected much more from an Indie developer, but Tasos was adamant that his game was the best of the best, overhyped it, and set it up to fail when it didn't mean the expectations of most of the people that have reviewed it thus far. 

Thradar

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Joined: 11/11/07
Posts: 938

3/01/09 1:50:26 PM#53

Scam?  No.  Pretty much everyone knows it's unfinished crap. 

mcquaided

Novice Member

Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 167

IM WATCHING YOU!

3/01/09 4:21:08 PM#54
Originally posted by Remains

Wouldnt consider it a scam...

lookie here

Sure, if some clueless guy went to the homepage, read the features and then managed to get a preorder: then he might have been pretty disappointed. You mean they were dissapointed because they were scammed.

 

Someone who actually did some research about the game should have known exactly what he was getting himself into:  paying to play beta

Edit: added the last 4 words

you brought up somthing that makes the op right. OH AND DARKFALL READ THE WHOLE POST, NOT JUST A FEW WORDS BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO MAKE YOUR 1LINER.

Ill ellaboraite more  my source. www.darkfallonline.com/features/

Now FACT: Consumers will go to the actual website of the game they are interested in to inform themselves.

So what happends is someone decides to skip the fourms here and goes directly to the darkfall webpage . remember when they click on darkfall the 1st thing they see is the features from this website, then head to the official website and stumble on the link i posted.

Adventure and explore In agon , a huge  diverse and visually stunning fantasy world

Explore five continents, countless small islands, trackless underwater depths, and a sprawling underworld. Hundreds of dungeons and adventure areas await.

Play any of Agon's six dominant races. Each race has a unique set of abilities, as well as its own civilization, culture, and way of life.

Meet hundreds of unique monsters, and take them on in their lairs, strongholds and domains. Repetitive monster encounters are a thing of the past.

Travel through geographically diverse regions that are alive with plants, trees, birds, animals, and even insects.

Experience a world brought to life by real-world physics and dynamic lighting and shadows. Watch trees and grass sway in the wind as sunlight peeks through passing clouds. Observe the movements of Agon's twin moons, which are part of a dynamic planetary system with smooth day/night cycles. Sail your ship through rough seas, then become hampered by fog as the waters calm. Struggle as your battlefield-bound army marches into a severe storm. In Darkfall, the weather is more than just window dressing.

Darkfall?s terrain has been painstakingly hand-crafted by our artists, rather than conveniently auto-generated. This means non-repetitive, unpredictable, and unique locations to explore, discover and use. Darkfall's world is full of wonders, small and large.

Uncover the mysteries of an ancient civilization, which left more than just ruins for later generations to discover. Untold riches and incredible power is the prize, as you join the race to claim an age-old inheritance

Part 1 of the scam, this will hype the unaware buyer up.  notice some of the big lies like meeting hundreds of monsters and repetitive monster encounters are a thing of the past. Everyone and their mom are killing hundreds of goblins, thus it becomes repetitive.

what follows is not even in the game. there are no wildlife. just npc.s few mobs and players.

ok lets go to the next one PART 2

PLAY IT YOUR WAY. FROM DAY ONE DARKFALL GIVES YOU MORE FREEDOM TO HAVE MORE FUN

Enjoy the smooth and flowing gameplay, the fast paced action, and the highly responsive controls. You can forget about point - click - and wait: In Darkfall, the action is real-time and your character feels like an extension of yourself.

here is another scam.

You don?t have to spend endless hours playing in order to enjoy yourself, or to become successful. Even if you only play in small doses, your character can be effective within his chosen field, and a lot of fun to play. Whether you?re looking for intense involvement or just casual fun without a huge time investment, Darkfall accommodates your playing style.  They quickly aim for the causal player offering them the ability to be competitive even if they play for a bit of time. The state of the game as it is this game is far from casual. Once your friends skill up to hell you will contribue jack if you play a hour a day or a few hours a week.

READ THIS PART LOL

In Darkfall, there?s much more to character development than, say, raising your riding or mining skill by mindlessly killing rats all day. Instead, you'll need to practice your skills if you want to get better at them. Darkfall?s skill based system makes sense, and it saves you from having to waste your playing time leveling.   Funny how they attack other mmo's grind when the skills in this game is a grind. you will still have to grind endlessly those goblins to become competitive with your melee. lets not forget when you raise your skill past 75 it degrades. oh and you mindlessly have to grind on that tree to be a good crafter LOLOLOLOL

You will never have to re-roll your character again. With Darkfall?s flexible character development system, your character simply adapts to the choices you make for him. We give you hundreds of skills to learn and master, and around a hundred Prestige classes to further specialize in.

You have the freedom to follow the rules, or to break them and face the consequences. Darkfall?s Alignment system is hard but fair.

Multiple safeguards protect you from cheats and exploits that would otherwise interfere with your gaming experience.

The last part has been proven wrong, people have been exploiting mobs that are bugged. Others have used bots and some have hacked . AV showed they do not give a shit if people kill bugged stationary mobs.

 

part 3 of the scam

INVENT, DISCOVER, CREATE AND PROFIT IN THE ULTIMATE PLAYER DRIVEN ECONOMY.

In Darkfall, all items in the world can be made by the players.

Darkfall?s crafting system is intuitive, non-repetitive, challenging, useful, fun - and profitable. Using Darkfall?s virtually limitless item creator system, you could invent and be the first to use a weapon as awesome as the Flamefury Raudstaal Battleaxe of Bloodshed, or just make a simple saddle for your horse.

Bring your goods to market using Darkfall?s sophisticated and secure trading system, bringing buyers and sellers together easily whether they?re inside the game or not.

Here is the most misleading scam of them all. this is targeting players who enjoy crafting and not much into anything else.  The lied about their non repetitive crafting system. They lied of it being profitable and fun.

most importantly they lied about their trading system there is none its nonexsistant. THIS RIGHT HERE IS A BIG SCAM TO FOOL PLAYERS WHO LOVE CRAFTING INTO BUYING THEIR GAME.

PART 4 OF THE SCAM

FIGHT BATTLES , WAGE WAR, BUILD AN EMPIRE OR TOPPLE ONE

Darkfall is optimized for both player versus player action and for massive battles.

Protect your home and expand your holdings as you build your empire. In Darkfall, clans struggle for supremacy and survival as they compete over land ownership, resources, and strategic objectives.

Darkfall's combat system is well balanced and well thought out, and the action is real-time, fast paced, and exciting. You?re in the thick of the action, not merely observing it.

Apply strategy, tactics, logistics, and individual skill to defeat your opponents.

Choose from a great variety of weapons, armors, hundreds of offensive and defensive spells, and special attacks.

Fight on horseback during a cavalry charge, participate in a naval battle, fight from vehicles and control siege and heavy weapons.

Your victories are documented for posterity and success is measurable, so you'll never have to wonder what really happened.

There are no safe zones in Darkfall. The only protection you can count on is your friends watching your back.

This one is the least of the scam as most of it does exsist. save the exageration of using stratergy . The final part is the bigg azz scam. There are safe zones in darkfall. yep they are called guard towers.

  PART 5

iNTERACT WITH OVER 10K SIMULTANIOUS PLAYERS.

We give you a world full of options, choices, and possibilities, and the ability to shape and define your game environment. Politics, diplomacy, trade agreements, and even player defined legal systems, are all supported by the game.

Darkfall places no restrictions on player interaction, so there are no developer imposed safe zones, no realms, factions, PvP zones, or any other roadblocks that limit your game. Anyone can fight anyone, anywhere as long as they are willing to face the consequences - in the form of Darkfall?s alignment system.

You can enjoy easy communication with your friends, even while outside the game. Darkfall?s Communication interface includes in-game message and trade boards, an IRC-style chat system, instant messaging, voice support, and even mobile phone SMS messaging.

In Darkfall, advanced clan management tools take care of the tedious and repetitive tasks, allowing you to focus on the real challenges (and the fun) associated with clan leadership.

Trade your hard earned items using Darkfall?s secure trade interface and in-game trade boards.

This is the major scam of them all. 1st the server can only hold 10k players  so its not over. also it has not been tested that the server can be jam packed with 10k at the same time. They only sold enough copies of that they could handle. So as it is not there are never 10k people online.

Read it all look as all the darn lies they mention here what trde agreements if there is no trading system , It clearly says at there are NO developer imposed safezones (guardtowers cough)

the communication part is the best of em all. royal scam there . The chat interface is very primitive, you cant even add different chats into 1 chat window.  wheres the voice support ect. this is a major SCAM. This will hype the shit out of new people checking their website.  The last part win the trophy. There is not ingame trade system just player trade. major LOL here.

Part 6

BECOME A LEGEND LET YOUR NAME RESOUND THRU THE AGES

When you play Darkfall, you take part in a constantly evolving, world-spanning storyline. Your reputation will precede you, and your fame will grow through clan victories and individual achievements. Whether you're a fearless fighter, a respected leader, a persuasive politician, or a skilled artisan, you will get the recognition you deserve. In Darkfall, your deeds and views are recorded and chronicled as you become a part of - and a shaper of - world history. With Darkfall?s narrative Legend system, your name will live in fame or in infamy, and it will never be forgotten.

 Major  scam here as none of this is intergrated. If they post your deeds on their website it means nothing. there will never be ingame lore of your deeds  or wanted signs about you ect. Legendary narrative system LOLOLOL SCAm . the only way youll know about other peoples deeds will be by word of mouth. just like every other mmorpg out there.

part 7

Raise to the challange do you have what it takes:

Darkfall combines Massively Multiplayer Role playing, Real Time Strategy, and Action gaming, extending the competitive environment on many different levels.

Top clans and top individual players from various gaming genres will be there, along with over ten thousand simultaneous players per world. You?re in very good company.

Explore the many different paths to being successful, and discover new ones that nobody thought of before.

Test your mettle in Darkfall?s Arena Events where individual players and teams compete for fun and profit.

Tet another scam as if everyones going to belive this game is a rts lol.  The big scam on this one is how they mention top clans and top individual players from other genres will come flocking to this game like flies to shit. yeah your in good company. SCAM

part 8

Let your voice be heard: we hear you loud and clear.

Every single person involved in the production of Darkfall is a gamer first and foremost. We?ve been where you?ve been, and we play the games you play.

We are committed to delivering and maintaining a complete, stable, and balanced game; a game that makes good on its promises, with regular and free expansion-size updates, prompt and swift customer service, and superior value for our players.

Darkfall offers you more ways to give feedback, and more ways to collaborate with the Darkfall Team in the evolution of the game. Your voice is heard loud and clear.

LOLLOLLOOLLOLOLLOOLLOOOOLLLOLLOOLOL  Sorry but this is gold . AV has already proven to be very bad at customer service and even customer support. there are people who preorderd who still needs to be adressed. Swift customer service OMg lol SCAM. and to know that Bannoc dissed the crap out of people in irc when the game was down. LOL the top  customer relations person sucks at his jawb. LOLOOLLLOLOL

this is a scam.

There you have it. AV has made i different game than advertized. I am not saying this game is shit. Im saying is that they made this game different , it wont appeal everyone yet they keep thier features unchanged giving the wrong impression of the game. This everyone is a SCAM people will read this shit and think this game has all of those features. then they will come into a game that is totally different than advertized. They will feel scammed and become the next trolls of this game. Until AV changes their features this game is a SCAM.

Even if your having fun and you enjoy the real features that were included you cannot deny that this feature page does MORE dmg than good for this game.

 

There I win the thread.

 

Im going to sell you a dream.

nathanpinard

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/27/08
Posts: 147

3/01/09 5:29:55 PM#55
Originally posted by Omyicanfly

This is a non debatable fact. This game IS a scam / rip off.

Why?

Because they launched it FULLY KNOWING what state it was in. Fully knowing how untested and buggy it was.

They accepted a limited amount of orders for no other reason than to raise money for development.

Darkfall Online is a SCAM.

 

 

The game is not buggy at all. Launch was shaky, but it does NOT reflect the stability of the game. The game, and the servers the last 2 days have been solid.

gamerman98

Novice Member

Joined: 10/13/04
Posts: 772

3/01/09 5:35:14 PM#56


Originally posted by daarco

Originally posted by Omyicanfly

Originally posted by daarco

AoC, WAR, WoW or any other crap that we have seen the last few years.


 
All those games are 100 levels above Darkfall in every single way possible and are commercial grade professionally produced products that are playable.
 


 
People tend to say so, but we havent seen any proof yet. Just some class/level grind with some static mobs. Not a real MMORPG.



ummm actually yeah they are real MMORPGs.

gringemore

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/10/05
Posts: 144

3/01/09 5:41:42 PM#57

this thread is retarted


http://donkeyshines.mybrute.com

xpiher

Elite Member

Joined: 8/22/08
Posts: 1462

3/01/09 5:52:13 PM#58
Originally posted by mcquaided
Snip

 

You dont win the thread friend.  See the thing is, everyone is still in noob mode. Think of the starting towns like noob islands in other games./ Ofcouse everyone is doingth same thing. Now this will change in a month. Not only that, crafting hasn't been shown yet why because everyone is in noob mode.


Murdus

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/05/07
Posts: 512

travel is dangerous

3/01/09 5:54:32 PM#59

by reading this thread

ive come to realize

that the op

is the worst person alive

tcosaddict

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/06/07
Posts: 176

"The quickest way to a woman's bed is through her parents... have sex with them and you're in!"

3/01/09 5:55:04 PM#60

It's not a scam.  Damn near everyone knew the game would be a buggy mess when it launched.  If you didn't know and only took Aventurine's word for it, then it's your own fault for not researching it before you bought it.  One search of these forums would have told you what to expect.  It's unebelievable that someone selling something would neglect to mention its bad features.  This must be the first time that's ever happened - the outrage!  They didn't lie about anything.  They told you what features were in the game and gave you an idea of what to expect.  They never said that the game was stress tested or that they could guarantee its perfection.  Tough break, do some research before buying a product at launch.  That or come to forums about the product after you waste your money and whine to everyone, who will in turn tell you to stop whining.  Also, to say that AoC, WoW, WAR and other games are 100 grades above Darkfall is utter bullshit.  WoW is basically the perfect PvE game, that's true.  It's up there, anyway.  Darkfall is a completely different type of game.  To say that they're better is to say that an apple is better than an orange.  As someone earlier said, "Get a clue."

Waiting on:
The Chronicles of Spellborn
Darkfall
Mortal Online
Aion

Murdus

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/05/07
Posts: 512

travel is dangerous

3/01/09 5:56:37 PM#61
Originally posted by mcquaided
Originally posted by Remains

Wouldnt consider it a scam...

lookie here

Sure, if some clueless guy went to the homepage, read the features and then managed to get a preorder: then he might have been pretty disappointed. You mean they were dissapointed because they were scammed.

 

Someone who actually did some research about the game should have known exactly what he was getting himself into:  paying to play beta

Edit: added the last 4 words

you brought up somthing that makes the op right. OH AND DARKFALL READ THE WHOLE POST, NOT JUST A FEW WORDS BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO MAKE YOUR 1LINER.

Ill ellaboraite more  my source. www.darkfallonline.com/features/

Now FACT: Consumers will go to the actual website of the game they are interested in to inform themselves.

So what happends is someone decides to skip the fourms here and goes directly to the darkfall webpage . remember when they click on darkfall the 1st thing they see is the features from this website, then head to the official website and stumble on the link i posted.

Adventure and explore In agon , a huge  diverse and visually stunning fantasy world

Explore five continents, countless small islands, trackless underwater depths, and a sprawling underworld. Hundreds of dungeons and adventure areas await.

Play any of Agon's six dominant races. Each race has a unique set of abilities, as well as its own civilization, culture, and way of life.

Meet hundreds of unique monsters, and take them on in their lairs, strongholds and domains. Repetitive monster encounters are a thing of the past.

Travel through geographically diverse regions that are alive with plants, trees, birds, animals, and even insects.

Experience a world brought to life by real-world physics and dynamic lighting and shadows. Watch trees and grass sway in the wind as sunlight peeks through passing clouds. Observe the movements of Agon's twin moons, which are part of a dynamic planetary system with smooth day/night cycles. Sail your ship through rough seas, then become hampered by fog as the waters calm. Struggle as your battlefield-bound army marches into a severe storm. In Darkfall, the weather is more than just window dressing.

Darkfall?s terrain has been painstakingly hand-crafted by our artists, rather than conveniently auto-generated. This means non-repetitive, unpredictable, and unique locations to explore, discover and use. Darkfall's world is full of wonders, small and large.

Uncover the mysteries of an ancient civilization, which left more than just ruins for later generations to discover. Untold riches and incredible power is the prize, as you join the race to claim an age-old inheritance

Part 1 of the scam, this will hype the unaware buyer up.  notice some of the big lies like meeting hundreds of monsters and repetitive monster encounters are a thing of the past. Everyone and their mom are killing hundreds of goblins, thus it becomes repetitive.

what follows is not even in the game. there are no wildlife. just npc.s few mobs and players.

ok lets go to the next one PART 2

PLAY IT YOUR WAY. FROM DAY ONE DARKFALL GIVES YOU MORE FREEDOM TO HAVE MORE FUN

Enjoy the smooth and flowing gameplay, the fast paced action, and the highly responsive controls. You can forget about point - click - and wait: In Darkfall, the action is real-time and your character feels like an extension of yourself.

here is another scam.

You don?t have to spend endless hours playing in order to enjoy yourself, or to become successful. Even if you only play in small doses, your character can be effective within his chosen field, and a lot of fun to play. Whether you?re looking for intense involvement or just casual fun without a huge time investment, Darkfall accommodates your playing style.  They quickly aim for the causal player offering them the ability to be competitive even if they play for a bit of time. The state of the game as it is this game is far from casual. Once your friends skill up to hell you will contribue jack if you play a hour a day or a few hours a week.

READ THIS PART LOL

In Darkfall, there?s much more to character development than, say, raising your riding or mining skill by mindlessly killing rats all day. Instead, you'll need to practice your skills if you want to get better at them. Darkfall?s skill based system makes sense, and it saves you from having to waste your playing time leveling.   Funny how they attack other mmo's grind when the skills in this game is a grind. you will still have to grind endlessly those goblins to become competitive with your melee. lets not forget when you raise your skill past 75 it degrades. oh and you mindlessly have to grind on that tree to be a good crafter LOLOLOLOL

You will never have to re-roll your character again. With Darkfall?s flexible character development system, your character simply adapts to the choices you make for him. We give you hundreds of skills to learn and master, and around a hundred Prestige classes to further specialize in.

You have the freedom to follow the rules, or to break them and face the consequences. Darkfall?s Alignment system is hard but fair.

Multiple safeguards protect you from cheats and exploits that would otherwise interfere with your gaming experience.

The last part has been proven wrong, people have been exploiting mobs that are bugged. Others have used bots and some have hacked . AV showed they do not give a shit if people kill bugged stationary mobs.

 

part 3 of the scam

INVENT, DISCOVER, CREATE AND PROFIT IN THE ULTIMATE PLAYER DRIVEN ECONOMY.

In Darkfall, all items in the world can be made by the players.

Darkfall?s crafting system is intuitive, non-repetitive, challenging, useful, fun - and profitable. Using Darkfall?s virtually limitless item creator system, you could invent and be the first to use a weapon as awesome as the Flamefury Raudstaal Battleaxe of Bloodshed, or just make a simple saddle for your horse.

Bring your goods to market using Darkfall?s sophisticated and secure trading system, bringing buyers and sellers together easily whether they?re inside the game or not.

Here is the most misleading scam of them all. this is targeting players who enjoy crafting and not much into anything else.  The lied about their non repetitive crafting system. They lied of it being profitable and fun.

most importantly they lied about their trading system there is none its nonexsistant. THIS RIGHT HERE IS A BIG SCAM TO FOOL PLAYERS WHO LOVE CRAFTING INTO BUYING THEIR GAME.

PART 4 OF THE SCAM

FIGHT BATTLES , WAGE WAR, BUILD AN EMPIRE OR TOPPLE ONE

Darkfall is optimized for both player versus player action and for massive battles.

Protect your home and expand your holdings as you build your empire. In Darkfall, clans struggle for supremacy and survival as they compete over land ownership, resources, and strategic objectives.

Darkfall's combat system is well balanced and well thought out, and the action is real-time, fast paced, and exciting. You?re in the thick of the action, not merely observing it.

Apply strategy, tactics, logistics, and individual skill to defeat your opponents.

Choose from a great variety of weapons, armors, hundreds of offensive and defensive spells, and special attacks.

Fight on horseback during a cavalry charge, participate in a naval battle, fight from vehicles and control siege and heavy weapons.

Your victories are documented for posterity and success is measurable, so you'll never have to wonder what really happened.

There are no safe zones in Darkfall. The only protection you can count on is your friends watching your back.

This one is the least of the scam as most of it does exsist. save the exageration of using stratergy . The final part is the bigg azz scam. There are safe zones in darkfall. yep they are called guard towers.

  PART 5

iNTERACT WITH OVER 10K SIMULTANIOUS PLAYERS.

We give you a world full of options, choices, and possibilities, and the ability to shape and define your game environment. Politics, diplomacy, trade agreements, and even player defined legal systems, are all supported by the game.

Darkfall places no restrictions on player interaction, so there are no developer imposed safe zones, no realms, factions, PvP zones, or any other roadblocks that limit your game. Anyone can fight anyone, anywhere as long as they are willing to face the consequences - in the form of Darkfall?s alignment system.

You can enjoy easy communication with your friends, even while outside the game. Darkfall?s Communication interface includes in-game message and trade boards, an IRC-style chat system, instant messaging, voice support, and even mobile phone SMS messaging.

In Darkfall, advanced clan management tools take care of the tedious and repetitive tasks, allowing you to focus on the real challenges (and the fun) associated with clan leadership.

Trade your hard earned items using Darkfall?s secure trade interface and in-game trade boards.

This is the major scam of them all. 1st the server can only hold 10k players  so its not over. also it has not been tested that the server can be jam packed with 10k at the same time. They only sold enough copies of that they could handle. So as it is not there are never 10k people online.

Read it all look as all the darn lies they mention here what trde agreements if there is no trading system , It clearly says at there are NO developer imposed safezones (guardtowers cough)

the communication part is the best of em all. royal scam there . The chat interface is very primitive, you cant even add different chats into 1 chat window.  wheres the voice support ect. this is a major SCAM. This will hype the shit out of new people checking their website.  The last part win the trophy. There is not ingame trade system just player trade. major LOL here.

Part 6

BECOME A LEGEND LET YOUR NAME RESOUND THRU THE AGES

When you play Darkfall, you take part in a constantly evolving, world-spanning storyline. Your reputation will precede you, and your fame will grow through clan victories and individual achievements. Whether you're a fearless fighter, a respected leader, a persuasive politician, or a skilled artisan, you will get the recognition you deserve. In Darkfall, your deeds and views are recorded and chronicled as you become a part of - and a shaper of - world history. With Darkfall?s narrative Legend system, your name will live in fame or in infamy, and it will never be forgotten.

 Major  scam here as none of this is intergrated. If they post your deeds on their website it means nothing. there will never be ingame lore of your deeds  or wanted signs about you ect. Legendary narrative system LOLOLOL SCAm . the only way youll know about other peoples deeds will be by word of mouth. just like every other mmorpg out there.

part 7

Raise to the challange do you have what it takes:

Darkfall combines Massively Multiplayer Role playing, Real Time Strategy, and Action gaming, extending the competitive environment on many different levels.

Top clans and top individual players from various gaming genres will be there, along with over ten thousand simultaneous players per world. You?re in very good company.

Explore the many different paths to being successful, and discover new ones that nobody thought of before.

Test your mettle in Darkfall?s Arena Events where individual players and teams compete for fun and profit.

Tet another scam as if everyones going to belive this game is a rts lol.  The big scam on this one is how they mention top clans and top individual players from other genres will come flocking to this game like flies to shit. yeah your in good company. SCAM

part 8

Let your voice be heard: we hear you loud and clear.

Every single person involved in the production of Darkfall is a gamer first and foremost. We?ve been where you?ve been, and we play the games you play.

We are committed to delivering and maintaining a complete, stable, and balanced game; a game that makes good on its promises, with regular and free expansion-size updates, prompt and swift customer service, and superior value for our players.

Darkfall offers you more ways to give feedback, and more ways to collaborate with the Darkfall Team in the evolution of the game. Your voice is heard loud and clear.

LOLLOLLOOLLOLOLLOOLLOOOOLLLOLLOOLOL  Sorry but this is gold . AV has already proven to be very bad at customer service and even customer support. there are people who preorderd who still needs to be adressed. Swift customer service OMg lol SCAM. and to know that Bannoc dissed the crap out of people in irc when the game was down. LOL the top  customer relations person sucks at his jawb. LOLOOLLLOLOL

this is a scam.

There you have it. AV has made i different game than advertized. I am not saying this game is shit. Im saying is that they made this game different , it wont appeal everyone yet they keep thier features unchanged giving the wrong impression of the game. This everyone is a SCAM people will read this shit and think this game has all of those features. then they will come into a game that is totally different than advertized. They will feel scammed and become the next trolls of this game. Until AV changes their features this game is a SCAM.

Even if your having fun and you enjoy the real features that were included you cannot deny that this feature page does MORE dmg than good for this game.

 

There I win the thread.

 

 

Seriously? Who the hell is going to type this much to prove that the game is not a scam?

It would be a scam if it wasn't even a game. If you paid money to buy a videogame, and you get to play that specific videogame, you haven't been scammed.

mcquaided

Novice Member

Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 167

IM WATCHING YOU!

3/01/09 6:01:04 PM#62

did you even read it before you posted. Thought so. next time read all the features av claims the game has. It surely doesnt have even half of the shit they put on their front page.

 

thats is scamming.

Im going to sell you a dream.

sanedor

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3/01/09 6:02:26 PM#63
Originally posted by mcquaided
Originally posted by Remains

Wouldnt consider it a scam...

lookie here

Sure, if some clueless guy went to the homepage, read the features and then managed to get a preorder: then he might have been pretty disappointed. You mean they were dissapointed because they were scammed.

 

Someone who actually did some research about the game should have known exactly what he was getting himself into:  paying to play beta

Edit: added the last 4 words

you brought up somthing that makes the op right. OH AND DARKFALL READ THE WHOLE POST, NOT JUST A FEW WORDS BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO MAKE YOUR 1LINER.

Ill ellaboraite more  my source. www.darkfallonline.com/features/

Now FACT: Consumers will go to the actual website of the game they are interested in to inform themselves.

So what happends is someone decides to skip the fourms here and goes directly to the darkfall webpage . remember when they click on darkfall the 1st thing they see is the features from this website, then head to the official website and stumble on the link i posted.

Adventure and explore In agon , a huge  diverse and visually stunning fantasy world

Explore five continents, countless small islands, trackless underwater depths, and a sprawling underworld. Hundreds of dungeons and adventure areas await.

Play any of Agon's six dominant races. Each race has a unique set of abilities, as well as its own civilization, culture, and way of life.

Meet hundreds of unique monsters, and take them on in their lairs, strongholds and domains. Repetitive monster encounters are a thing of the past.

Travel through geographically diverse regions that are alive with plants, trees, birds, animals, and even insects.

Experience a world brought to life by real-world physics and dynamic lighting and shadows. Watch trees and grass sway in the wind as sunlight peeks through passing clouds. Observe the movements of Agon's twin moons, which are part of a dynamic planetary system with smooth day/night cycles. Sail your ship through rough seas, then become hampered by fog as the waters calm. Struggle as your battlefield-bound army marches into a severe storm. In Darkfall, the weather is more than just window dressing.

Darkfall?s terrain has been painstakingly hand-crafted by our artists, rather than conveniently auto-generated. This means non-repetitive, unpredictable, and unique locations to explore, discover and use. Darkfall's world is full of wonders, small and large.

Uncover the mysteries of an ancient civilization, which left more than just ruins for later generations to discover. Untold riches and incredible power is the prize, as you join the race to claim an age-old inheritance

Part 1 of the scam, this will hype the unaware buyer up.  notice some of the big lies like meeting hundreds of monsters and repetitive monster encounters are a thing of the past. Everyone and their mom are killing hundreds of goblins, thus it becomes repetitive.

what follows is not even in the game. there are no wildlife. just npc.s few mobs and players.

ok lets go to the next one PART 2

PLAY IT YOUR WAY. FROM DAY ONE DARKFALL GIVES YOU MORE FREEDOM TO HAVE MORE FUN

Enjoy the smooth and flowing gameplay, the fast paced action, and the highly responsive controls. You can forget about point - click - and wait: In Darkfall, the action is real-time and your character feels like an extension of yourself.

here is another scam.

You don?t have to spend endless hours playing in order to enjoy yourself, or to become successful. Even if you only play in small doses, your character can be effective within his chosen field, and a lot of fun to play. Whether you?re looking for intense involvement or just casual fun without a huge time investment, Darkfall accommodates your playing style.  They quickly aim for the causal player offering them the ability to be competitive even if they play for a bit of time. The state of the game as it is this game is far from casual. Once your friends skill up to hell you will contribue jack if you play a hour a day or a few hours a week.

READ THIS PART LOL

In Darkfall, there?s much more to character development than, say, raising your riding or mining skill by mindlessly killing rats all day. Instead, you'll need to practice your skills if you want to get better at them. Darkfall?s skill based system makes sense, and it saves you from having to waste your playing time leveling.   Funny how they attack other mmo's grind when the skills in this game is a grind. you will still have to grind endlessly those goblins to become competitive with your melee. lets not forget when you raise your skill past 75 it degrades. oh and you mindlessly have to grind on that tree to be a good crafter LOLOLOLOL

You will never have to re-roll your character again. With Darkfall?s flexible character development system, your character simply adapts to the choices you make for him. We give you hundreds of skills to learn and master, and around a hundred Prestige classes to further specialize in.

You have the freedom to follow the rules, or to break them and face the consequences. Darkfall?s Alignment system is hard but fair.

Multiple safeguards protect you from cheats and exploits that would otherwise interfere with your gaming experience.

The last part has been proven wrong, people have been exploiting mobs that are bugged. Others have used bots and some have hacked . AV showed they do not give a shit if people kill bugged stationary mobs.

 

part 3 of the scam

INVENT, DISCOVER, CREATE AND PROFIT IN THE ULTIMATE PLAYER DRIVEN ECONOMY.

In Darkfall, all items in the world can be made by the players.

Darkfall?s crafting system is intuitive, non-repetitive, challenging, useful, fun - and profitable. Using Darkfall?s virtually limitless item creator system, you could invent and be the first to use a weapon as awesome as the Flamefury Raudstaal Battleaxe of Bloodshed, or just make a simple saddle for your horse.

Bring your goods to market using Darkfall?s sophisticated and secure trading system, bringing buyers and sellers together easily whether they?re inside the game or not.

Here is the most misleading scam of them all. this is targeting players who enjoy crafting and not much into anything else.  The lied about their non repetitive crafting system. They lied of it being profitable and fun.

most importantly they lied about their trading system there is none its nonexsistant. THIS RIGHT HERE IS A BIG SCAM TO FOOL PLAYERS WHO LOVE CRAFTING INTO BUYING THEIR GAME.

PART 4 OF THE SCAM

FIGHT BATTLES , WAGE WAR, BUILD AN EMPIRE OR TOPPLE ONE

Darkfall is optimized for both player versus player action and for massive battles.

Protect your home and expand your holdings as you build your empire. In Darkfall, clans struggle for supremacy and survival as they compete over land ownership, resources, and strategic objectives.

Darkfall's combat system is well balanced and well thought out, and the action is real-time, fast paced, and exciting. You?re in the thick of the action, not merely observing it.

Apply strategy, tactics, logistics, and individual skill to defeat your opponents.

Choose from a great variety of weapons, armors, hundreds of offensive and defensive spells, and special attacks.

Fight on horseback during a cavalry charge, participate in a naval battle, fight from vehicles and control siege and heavy weapons.

Your victories are documented for posterity and success is measurable, so you'll never have to wonder what really happened.

There are no safe zones in Darkfall. The only protection you can count on is your friends watching your back.

This one is the least of the scam as most of it does exsist. save the exageration of using stratergy . The final part is the bigg azz scam. There are safe zones in darkfall. yep they are called guard towers.

  PART 5

iNTERACT WITH OVER 10K SIMULTANIOUS PLAYERS.

We give you a world full of options, choices, and possibilities, and the ability to shape and define your game environment. Politics, diplomacy, trade agreements, and even player defined legal systems, are all supported by the game.

Darkfall places no restrictions on player interaction, so there are no developer imposed safe zones, no realms, factions, PvP zones, or any other roadblocks that limit your game. Anyone can fight anyone, anywhere as long as they are willing to face the consequences - in the form of Darkfall?s alignment system.

You can enjoy easy communication with your friends, even while outside the game. Darkfall?s Communication interface includes in-game message and trade boards, an IRC-style chat system, instant messaging, voice support, and even mobile phone SMS messaging.

In Darkfall, advanced clan management tools take care of the tedious and repetitive tasks, allowing you to focus on the real challenges (and the fun) associated with clan leadership.

Trade your hard earned items using Darkfall?s secure trade interface and in-game trade boards.

This is the major scam of them all. 1st the server can only hold 10k players  so its not over. also it has not been tested that the server can be jam packed with 10k at the same time. They only sold enough copies of that they could handle. So as it is not there are never 10k people online.

Read it all look as all the darn lies they mention here what trde agreements if there is no trading system , It clearly says at there are NO developer imposed safezones (guardtowers cough)

the communication part is the best of em all. royal scam there . The chat interface is very primitive, you cant even add different chats into 1 chat window.  wheres the voice support ect. this is a major SCAM. This will hype the shit out of new people checking their website.  The last part win the trophy. There is not ingame trade system just player trade. major LOL here.

Part 6

BECOME A LEGEND LET YOUR NAME RESOUND THRU THE AGES

When you play Darkfall, you take part in a constantly evolving, world-spanning storyline. Your reputation will precede you, and your fame will grow through clan victories and individual achievements. Whether you're a fearless fighter, a respected leader, a persuasive politician, or a skilled artisan, you will get the recognition you deserve. In Darkfall, your deeds and views are recorded and chronicled as you become a part of - and a shaper of - world history. With Darkfall?s narrative Legend system, your name will live in fame or in infamy, and it will never be forgotten.

 Major  scam here as none of this is intergrated. If they post your deeds on their website it means nothing. there will never be ingame lore of your deeds  or wanted signs about you ect. Legendary narrative system LOLOLOL SCAm . the only way youll know about other peoples deeds will be by word of mouth. just like every other mmorpg out there.

part 7

Raise to the challange do you have what it takes:

Darkfall combines Massively Multiplayer Role playing, Real Time Strategy, and Action gaming, extending the competitive environment on many different levels.

Top clans and top individual players from various gaming genres will be there, along with over ten thousand simultaneous players per world. You?re in very good company.

Explore the many different paths to being successful, and discover new ones that nobody thought of before.

Test your mettle in Darkfall?s Arena Events where individual players and teams compete for fun and profit.

Tet another scam as if everyones going to belive this game is a rts lol.  The big scam on this one is how they mention top clans and top individual players from other genres will come flocking to this game like flies to shit. yeah your in good company. SCAM

part 8

Let your voice be heard: we hear you loud and clear.

Every single person involved in the production of Darkfall is a gamer first and foremost. We?ve been where you?ve been, and we play the games you play.

We are committed to delivering and maintaining a complete, stable, and balanced game; a game that makes good on its promises, with regular and free expansion-size updates, prompt and swift customer service, and superior value for our players.

Darkfall offers you more ways to give feedback, and more ways to collaborate with the Darkfall Team in the evolution of the game. Your voice is heard loud and clear.

LOLLOLLOOLLOLOLLOOLLOOOOLLLOLLOOLOL  Sorry but this is gold . AV has already proven to be very bad at customer service and even customer support. there are people who preorderd who still needs to be adressed. Swift customer service OMg lol SCAM. and to know that Bannoc dissed the crap out of people in irc when the game was down. LOL the top  customer relations person sucks at his jawb. LOLOOLLLOLOL

this is a scam.

There you have it. AV has made i different game than advertized. I am not saying this game is shit. Im saying is that they made this game different , it wont appeal everyone yet they keep thier features unchanged giving the wrong impression of the game. This everyone is a SCAM people will read this shit and think this game has all of those features. then they will come into a game that is totally different than advertized. They will feel scammed and become the next trolls of this game. Until AV changes their features this game is a SCAM.

Even if your having fun and you enjoy the real features that were included you cannot deny that this feature page does MORE dmg than good for this game.

 

There I win the thread.

 

 

Lets add to the new buyer that goes to the site and see this too

 

What are the Prestige classes?
Prestige classes are special classes, like Paladin, Assassin, Gladiator, Enchanter etc. and it?s an optional path that you may choose for your character to follow. Picking a prestige class will in most cases give you a few special skills, a few special spells, and you will have a certain status. There are limitations, tradeoffs and restrictions playing a prestige class character. Druids for example may never use metal armor after they are initiated, and Paladins have to give half of their earnings to their church.

Prestige classes may be interesting to some players, and some classes may give you an extra reason to role-play, or maybe give you an edge in combat or crafting. There will be many interesting prestige classes for you to try out.

Picking a prestige class is not final - you can change class later, with some minor penalties. The easy route would have been to make picking a prestige class final, but we want to keep Darkfall as open ended as possible. Scam !!!!

or

Will there be player owned houses?
Players will be able to set up houses of various sizes and design, ranging from small cottages to huge castles and citadels. SCAM !!! player housing is out !!!! just guild cities

 

or

Can I have pets or NPC hirelings in Darkfall?
You can have pets and NPC hirelings in Darkfall, ranging from tamed animals and monsters, to summoned skeletons, charmed animals and monsters, hired NPC merchants, hired NPC guards, etc.

What can my NPC hirelings do?
NPC hirelings can follow you around and fight with you, they can carry your loot, they can perform skills and spells to aid you, etc. NPC hirelings can do pretty much everything that player friends can do. In addition, NPC hirelings can be given advanced orders such as patrolling your city, looking for enemies, criminals, and thieves. They can be a vendor in your shop that you have set up, they can mine for minerals in a mine, they can go out into the forest and chop wood for you, or stand on the banks of a river fishing for you all day.

SCAM SCAM SCAM OUT OUT OUT  ..

the new people that buy this game will hit the site and see this mess and buy it  , this is all lies.

and don't say they are making a new website, they are selling this game NOW with this site  !!!

 

Kvatch

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opinions are like @$$holes , everyone has one and they all stink.

3/01/09 6:05:07 PM#64

zoloft

mcquaided

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IM WATCHING YOU!

3/01/09 6:15:55 PM#65
Originally posted by sanedor
Originally posted by mcquaided
Originally posted by Remains

Wouldnt consider it a scam...

lookie here

Sure, if some clueless guy went to the homepage, read the features and then managed to get a preorder: then he might have been pretty disappointed. You mean they were dissapointed because they were scammed.

 

Someone who actually did some research about the game should have known exactly what he was getting himself into:  paying to play beta

Edit: added the last 4 words

you brought up somthing that makes the op right. OH AND DARKFALL READ THE WHOLE POST, NOT JUST A FEW WORDS BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO MAKE YOUR 1LINER.

Ill ellaboraite more  my source. www.darkfallonline.com/features/

Now FACT: Consumers will go to the actual website of the game they are interested in to inform themselves.

So what happends is someone decides to skip the fourms here and goes directly to the darkfall webpage . remember when they click on darkfall the 1st thing they see is the features from this website, then head to the official website and stumble on the link i posted.

Adventure and explore In agon , a huge  diverse and visually stunning fantasy world

Explore five continents, countless small islands, trackless underwater depths, and a sprawling underworld. Hundreds of dungeons and adventure areas await.

Play any of Agon's six dominant races. Each race has a unique set of abilities, as well as its own civilization, culture, and way of life.

Meet hundreds of unique monsters, and take them on in their lairs, strongholds and domains. Repetitive monster encounters are a thing of the past.

Travel through geographically diverse regions that are alive with plants, trees, birds, animals, and even insects.

Experience a world brought to life by real-world physics and dynamic lighting and shadows. Watch trees and grass sway in the wind as sunlight peeks through passing clouds. Observe the movements of Agon's twin moons, which are part of a dynamic planetary system with smooth day/night cycles. Sail your ship through rough seas, then become hampered by fog as the waters calm. Struggle as your battlefield-bound army marches into a severe storm. In Darkfall, the weather is more than just window dressing.

Darkfall?s terrain has been painstakingly hand-crafted by our artists, rather than conveniently auto-generated. This means non-repetitive, unpredictable, and unique locations to explore, discover and use. Darkfall's world is full of wonders, small and large.

Uncover the mysteries of an ancient civilization, which left more than just ruins for later generations to discover. Untold riches and incredible power is the prize, as you join the race to claim an age-old inheritance

Part 1 of the scam, this will hype the unaware buyer up.  notice some of the big lies like meeting hundreds of monsters and repetitive monster encounters are a thing of the past. Everyone and their mom are killing hundreds of goblins, thus it becomes repetitive.

what follows is not even in the game. there are no wildlife. just npc.s few mobs and players.

ok lets go to the next one PART 2

PLAY IT YOUR WAY. FROM DAY ONE DARKFALL GIVES YOU MORE FREEDOM TO HAVE MORE FUN

Enjoy the smooth and flowing gameplay, the fast paced action, and the highly responsive controls. You can forget about point - click - and wait: In Darkfall, the action is real-time and your character feels like an extension of yourself.

here is another scam.

You don?t have to spend endless hours playing in order to enjoy yourself, or to become successful. Even if you only play in small doses, your character can be effective within his chosen field, and a lot of fun to play. Whether you?re looking for intense involvement or just casual fun without a huge time investment, Darkfall accommodates your playing style.  They quickly aim for the causal player offering them the ability to be competitive even if they play for a bit of time. The state of the game as it is this game is far from casual. Once your friends skill up to hell you will contribue jack if you play a hour a day or a few hours a week.

READ THIS PART LOL

In Darkfall, there?s much more to character development than, say, raising your riding or mining skill by mindlessly killing rats all day. Instead, you'll need to practice your skills if you want to get better at them. Darkfall?s skill based system makes sense, and it saves you from having to waste your playing time leveling.   Funny how they attack other mmo's grind when the skills in this game is a grind. you will still have to grind endlessly those goblins to become competitive with your melee. lets not forget when you raise your skill past 75 it degrades. oh and you mindlessly have to grind on that tree to be a good crafter LOLOLOLOL

You will never have to re-roll your character again. With Darkfall?s flexible character development system, your character simply adapts to the choices you make for him. We give you hundreds of skills to learn and master, and around a hundred Prestige classes to further specialize in.

You have the freedom to follow the rules, or to break them and face the consequences. Darkfall?s Alignment system is hard but fair.

Multiple safeguards protect you from cheats and exploits that would otherwise interfere with your gaming experience.

The last part has been proven wrong, people have been exploiting mobs that are bugged. Others have used bots and some have hacked . AV showed they do not give a shit if people kill bugged stationary mobs.

 

part 3 of the scam

INVENT, DISCOVER, CREATE AND PROFIT IN THE ULTIMATE PLAYER DRIVEN ECONOMY.

In Darkfall, all items in the world can be made by the players.

Darkfall?s crafting system is intuitive, non-repetitive, challenging, useful, fun - and profitable. Using Darkfall?s virtually limitless item creator system, you could invent and be the first to use a weapon as awesome as the Flamefury Raudstaal Battleaxe of Bloodshed, or just make a simple saddle for your horse.

Bring your goods to market using Darkfall?s sophisticated and secure trading system, bringing buyers and sellers together easily whether they?re inside the game or not.

Here is the most misleading scam of them all. this is targeting players who enjoy crafting and not much into anything else.  The lied about their non repetitive crafting system. They lied of it being profitable and fun.

most importantly they lied about their trading system there is none its nonexsistant. THIS RIGHT HERE IS A BIG SCAM TO FOOL PLAYERS WHO LOVE CRAFTING INTO BUYING THEIR GAME.

PART 4 OF THE SCAM

FIGHT BATTLES , WAGE WAR, BUILD AN EMPIRE OR TOPPLE ONE

Darkfall is optimized for both player versus player action and for massive battles.

Protect your home and expand your holdings as you build your empire. In Darkfall, clans struggle for supremacy and survival as they compete over land ownership, resources, and strategic objectives.

Darkfall's combat system is well balanced and well thought out, and the action is real-time, fast paced, and exciting. You?re in the thick of the action, not merely observing it.

Apply strategy, tactics, logistics, and individual skill to defeat your opponents.

Choose from a great variety of weapons, armors, hundreds of offensive and defensive spells, and special attacks.

Fight on horseback during a cavalry charge, participate in a naval battle, fight from vehicles and control siege and heavy weapons.

Your victories are documented for posterity and success is measurable, so you'll never have to wonder what really happened.

There are no safe zones in Darkfall. The only protection you can count on is your friends watching your back.

This one is the least of the scam as most of it does exsist. save the exageration of using stratergy . The final part is the bigg azz scam. There are safe zones in darkfall. yep they are called guard towers.

  PART 5

iNTERACT WITH OVER 10K SIMULTANIOUS PLAYERS.

We give you a world full of options, choices, and possibilities, and the ability to shape and define your game environment. Politics, diplomacy, trade agreements, and even player defined legal systems, are all supported by the game.

Darkfall places no restrictions on player interaction, so there are no developer imposed safe zones, no realms, factions, PvP zones, or any other roadblocks that limit your game. Anyone can fight anyone, anywhere as long as they are willing to face the consequences - in the form of Darkfall?s alignment system.

You can enjoy easy communication with your friends, even while outside the game. Darkfall?s Communication interface includes in-game message and trade boards, an IRC-style chat system, instant messaging, voice support, and even mobile phone SMS messaging.

In Darkfall, advanced clan management tools take care of the tedious and repetitive tasks, allowing you to focus on the real challenges (and the fun) associated with clan leadership.

Trade your hard earned items using Darkfall?s secure trade interface and in-game trade boards.

This is the major scam of them all. 1st the server can only hold 10k players  so its not over. also it has not been tested that the server can be jam packed with 10k at the same time. They only sold enough copies of that they could handle. So as it is not there are never 10k people online.

Read it all look as all the darn lies they mention here what trde agreements if there is no trading system , It clearly says at there are NO developer imposed safezones (guardtowers cough)

the communication part is the best of em all. royal scam there . The chat interface is very primitive, you cant even add different chats into 1 chat window.  wheres the voice support ect. this is a major SCAM. This will hype the shit out of new people checking their website.  The last part win the trophy. There is not ingame trade system just player trade. major LOL here.

Part 6

BECOME A LEGEND LET YOUR NAME RESOUND THRU THE AGES

When you play Darkfall, you take part in a constantly evolving, world-spanning storyline. Your reputation will precede you, and your fame will grow through clan victories and individual achievements. Whether you're a fearless fighter, a respected leader, a persuasive politician, or a skilled artisan, you will get the recognition you deserve. In Darkfall, your deeds and views are recorded and chronicled as you become a part of - and a shaper of - world history. With Darkfall?s narrative Legend system, your name will live in fame or in infamy, and it will never be forgotten.

 Major  scam here as none of this is intergrated. If they post your deeds on their website it means nothing. there will never be ingame lore of your deeds  or wanted signs about you ect. Legendary narrative system LOLOLOL SCAm . the only way youll know about other peoples deeds will be by word of mouth. just like every other mmorpg out there.

part 7

Raise to the challange do you have what it takes:

Darkfall combines Massively Multiplayer Role playing, Real Time Strategy, and Action gaming, extending the competitive environment on many different levels.

Top clans and top individual players from various gaming genres will be there, along with over ten thousand simultaneous players per world. You?re in very good company.

Explore the many different paths to being successful, and discover new ones that nobody thought of before.

Test your mettle in Darkfall?s Arena Events where individual players and teams compete for fun and profit.

Tet another scam as if everyones going to belive this game is a rts lol.  The big scam on this one is how they mention top clans and top individual players from other genres will come flocking to this game like flies to shit. yeah your in good company. SCAM

part 8

Let your voice be heard: we hear you loud and clear.

Every single person involved in the production of Darkfall is a gamer first and foremost. We?ve been where you?ve been, and we play the games you play.

We are committed to delivering and maintaining a complete, stable, and balanced game; a game that makes good on its promises, with regular and free expansion-size updates, prompt and swift customer service, and superior value for our players.

Darkfall offers you more ways to give feedback, and more ways to collaborate with the Darkfall Team in the evolution of the game. Your voice is heard loud and clear.

LOLLOLLOOLLOLOLLOOLLOOOOLLLOLLOOLOL  Sorry but this is gold . AV has already proven to be very bad at customer service and even customer support. there are people who preorderd who still needs to be adressed. Swift customer service OMg lol SCAM. and to know that Bannoc dissed the crap out of people in irc when the game was down. LOL the top  customer relations person sucks at his jawb. LOLOOLLLOLOL

this is a scam.

There you have it. AV has made i different game than advertized. I am not saying this game is shit. Im saying is that they made this game different , it wont appeal everyone yet they keep thier features unchanged giving the wrong impression of the game. This everyone is a SCAM people will read this shit and think this game has all of those features. then they will come into a game that is totally different than advertized. They will feel scammed and become the next trolls of this game. Until AV changes their features this game is a SCAM.

Even if your having fun and you enjoy the real features that were included you cannot deny that this feature page does MORE dmg than good for this game.

 

There I win the thread.

 

 

Lets add to the new buyer that goes to the site and see this too

 

What are the Prestige classes?
Prestige classes are special classes, like Paladin, Assassin, Gladiator, Enchanter etc. and it?s an optional path that you may choose for your character to follow. Picking a prestige class will in most cases give you a few special skills, a few special spells, and you will have a certain status. There are limitations, tradeoffs and restrictions playing a prestige class character. Druids for example may never use metal armor after they are initiated, and Paladins have to give half of their earnings to their church.

Prestige classes may be interesting to some players, and some classes may give you an extra reason to role-play, or maybe give you an edge in combat or crafting. There will be many interesting prestige classes for you to try out.

Picking a prestige class is not final - you can change class later, with some minor penalties. The easy route would have been to make picking a prestige class final, but we want to keep Darkfall as open ended as possible. Scam !!!!

or

Will there be player owned houses?
Players will be able to set up houses of various sizes and design, ranging from small cottages to huge castles and citadels. SCAM !!! player housing is out !!!! just guild cities

 

or

Can I have pets or NPC hirelings in Darkfall?
You can have pets and NPC hirelings in Darkfall, ranging from tamed animals and monsters, to summoned skeletons, charmed animals and monsters, hired NPC merchants, hired NPC guards, etc.

What can my NPC hirelings do?
NPC hirelings can follow you around and fight with you, they can carry your loot, they can perform skills and spells to aid you, etc. NPC hirelings can do pretty much everything that player friends can do. In addition, NPC hirelings can be given advanced orders such as patrolling your city, looking for enemies, criminals, and thieves. They can be a vendor in your shop that you have set up, they can mine for minerals in a mine, they can go out into the forest and chop wood for you, or stand on the banks of a river fishing for you all day.

SCAM SCAM SCAM OUT OUT OUT  ..

the new people that buy this game will hit the site and see this mess and buy it  , this is all lies.

and don't say they are making a new website, they are selling this game NOW with this site  !!!

 

Omg i cannot belive i skipped those. good find.

more to add that AV is scamming people.

Im going to sell you a dream.

jonyak

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Joined: 3/16/07
Posts: 338

3/01/09 6:17:42 PM#66
Originally posted by Kvatch

zoloft

 

I agree.

Velric

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Joined: 9/21/03
Posts: 126

3/01/09 6:23:21 PM#67
Originally posted by Omyicanfly
Originally posted by daarco

AoC, WAR, WoW or any other crap that we have seen the last few years.


 

All those games are 100 levels above Darkfall in every single way possible and are commercial grade professionally produced products that are playable.

 

 

Did you just say that about AoC? Really?

sanedor

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/13/06
Posts: 434

3/01/09 6:27:17 PM#68
Originally posted by jonyak
Originally posted by Kvatch

zoloft

 

I agree.

 

Zoloft is well tolerated and effective for the treatment of depression and certain anxiety conditions that come from following the game DARKFALL online. sideeffects are blind following and Bad judgement..known cure DF Toll post can break this in time..

User Deleted
3/01/09 6:28:10 PM#69
Originally posted by Omyicanfly

This is a non debatable fact. This game IS a scam / rip off.

Why?

Because they launched it FULLY KNOWING what state it was in. Fully knowing how untested and buggy it was.

They accepted a limited amount of orders for no other reason than to raise money for development.

Darkfall Online is a SCAM.

 

 

Do you consider AOC, WAR, Vanguard (and more) all scams?  If not, realize that those games weren't in any better shape than Darkfall is now upon "release" (and surprisingly, I find I enjoy my time in Darkfall a hell of alot more than any of those other games).

Aventurine is actually taking a more intelligent approach by limiting the amount of players who have access to it during its early release.  For a number reasons

(1) to work out kinks before it goes mainstream

(2) to determine demand (thereby determining how many servers are necessary, instead of buying 30 servers which some may never be used)

(3) to get a limited amount of feedback on the actual gameplay, versus having to dig through millions of bug reports, suggestions, questions, and complaints.

The Darkfall dev team, from what I understand, is a fairly small group.  As the time goes by, I expect to see them increase staff and the number of servers.

Also, consider the fact that it takes more than a group of programmers to run a MMORPG.  You need employees (who require to be paid) to maintain the server(s).  You need PR, CSR, techies, project managers, system analysts, and the list goes on.  Right now, again from what I understand, Aventurine is simply a small group of programmers (a couple dozen).  Considering what they've accomplished - and considering I write software - I'm actually impressed by what the small team has accomplished.

Maybe by definition, the game is a "scam."  If that's the case, provide proof that any game that has been released with bugs, missing features, and minimal testing was not a scam by your definition?

The only reason I care is because I've been playing Darkfall whenever the servers are up.  Last night, for about 8 hours straight, I ran around and explored the world with two clan-mates.  Those 8 hours were the best time I've ever had in an MMO.  When 4AM rolled around, I was grudging turning my computer off and going to bed because I didn't want the fun to end.  No game has hooked me like this since my first MMO years ago.

Say what you will.  You are entitled to your opinions, same as all of the people who are playing Darkfall (or who want to play Darkfall) are entitled to theirs.  But don't try to stop other people from having fun because you're not...

sanedor

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/13/06
Posts: 434

3/01/09 6:30:31 PM#70
Originally posted by xiirot
Originally posted by Omyicanfly

This is a non debatable fact. This game IS a scam / rip off.

Why?

Because they launched it FULLY KNOWING what state it was in. Fully knowing how untested and buggy it was.

They accepted a limited amount of orders for no other reason than to raise money for development.

Darkfall Online is a SCAM.

 

 

Do you consider AOC, WAR, Vanguard (and more) all scams?  If not, realize that those games weren't in any better shape than Darkfall is now upon "release" (and surprisingly, I find I enjoy my time in Darkfall a hell of alot more than any of those other games).

Aventurine is actually taking a more intelligent approach by limiting the amount of players who have access to it during its early release.  For a number reasons

(1) to work out kinks before it goes mainstream

(2) to determine demand (thereby determining how many servers are necessary, instead of buying 30 servers which some may never be used)

(3) to get a limited amount of feedback on the actual gameplay, versus having to dig through millions of bug reports, suggestions, questions, and complaints.

The Darkfall dev team, from what I understand, is a fairly small group.  As the time goes by, I expect to see them increase staff and the number of servers.

Also, consider the fact that it takes more than a group of programmers to run a MMORPG.  You need employees (who require to be paid) to maintain the server(s).  You need PR, CSR, techies, project managers, system analysts, and the list goes on.  Right now, again from what I understand, Aventurine is simply a small group of programmers (a couple dozen).  Considering what they've accomplished - and considering I write software - I'm actually impressed by what the small team has accomplished.

Maybe by definition, the game is a "scam."  If that's the case, provide proof that any game that has been released with bugs, missing features, and minimal testing was not a scam by your definition?

The only reason I care is because I've been playing Darkfall whenever the servers are up.  Last night, for about 8 hours straight, I ran around and explored the world with two clan-mates.  Those 8 hours were the best time I've ever had in an MMO.  When 4AM rolled around, I was grudging turning my computer off and going to bed because I didn't want the fun to end.  No game has hooked me like this since my first MMO years ago.

Say what you will.  You are entitled to your opinions, same as all of the people who are playing Darkfall (or who want to play Darkfall) are entitled to theirs.  But don't try to stop other people from having fun because you're not...

see my last post for help

User Deleted
3/01/09 6:32:30 PM#71
Originally posted by sanedor
Originally posted by xiirot
Originally posted by Omyicanfly

This is a non debatable fact. This game IS a scam / rip off.

Why?

Because they launched it FULLY KNOWING what state it was in. Fully knowing how untested and buggy it was.

They accepted a limited amount of orders for no other reason than to raise money for development.

Darkfall Online is a SCAM.

 

 

Do you consider AOC, WAR, Vanguard (and more) all scams?  If not, realize that those games weren't in any better shape than Darkfall is now upon "release" (and surprisingly, I find I enjoy my time in Darkfall a hell of alot more than any of those other games).

Aventurine is actually taking a more intelligent approach by limiting the amount of players who have access to it during its early release.  For a number reasons

(1) to work out kinks before it goes mainstream

(2) to determine demand (thereby determining how many servers are necessary, instead of buying 30 servers which some may never be used)

(3) to get a limited amount of feedback on the actual gameplay, versus having to dig through millions of bug reports, suggestions, questions, and complaints.

The Darkfall dev team, from what I understand, is a fairly small group.  As the time goes by, I expect to see them increase staff and the number of servers.

Also, consider the fact that it takes more than a group of programmers to run a MMORPG.  You need employees (who require to be paid) to maintain the server(s).  You need PR, CSR, techies, project managers, system analysts, and the list goes on.  Right now, again from what I understand, Aventurine is simply a small group of programmers (a couple dozen).  Considering what they've accomplished - and considering I write software - I'm actually impressed by what the small team has accomplished.

Maybe by definition, the game is a "scam."  If that's the case, provide proof that any game that has been released with bugs, missing features, and minimal testing was not a scam by your definition?

The only reason I care is because I've been playing Darkfall whenever the servers are up.  Last night, for about 8 hours straight, I ran around and explored the world with two clan-mates.  Those 8 hours were the best time I've ever had in an MMO.  When 4AM rolled around, I was grudging turning my computer off and going to bed because I didn't want the fun to end.  No game has hooked me like this since my first MMO years ago.

Say what you will.  You are entitled to your opinions, same as all of the people who are playing Darkfall (or who want to play Darkfall) are entitled to theirs.  But don't try to stop other people from having fun because you're not...

see my last post for help

 

Hey, thanks pal!  You've cured my depression!

rturja

Novice Member

Joined: 10/10/05
Posts: 177

WoW is just Britney Spears of MMO's

3/01/09 6:32:48 PM#72

Darkfall isn't a scam or ripoff. It's bloody ingeniously executed exertion racket. Cough up, or I release the loonies back to *your* game!

Yes, I seriously hope that darkfall stays afloat, and even might consider paying for it.

Playing: LotRO, EvE
Played: UO, DaoC, Horizons, Ryzom, WAR
Honourable mention: Vanguard as the last ever $OE title...

Kvatch

Novice Member

Joined: 2/24/09
Posts: 56

opinions are like @$$holes , everyone has one and they all stink.

3/01/09 6:35:30 PM#73
Originally posted by xiirot
Originally posted by Omyicanfly

This is a non debatable fact. This game IS a scam / rip off.

Why?

Because they launched it FULLY KNOWING what state it was in. Fully knowing how untested and buggy it was.

They accepted a limited amount of orders for no other reason than to raise money for development.

Darkfall Online is a SCAM.

 

 

Do you consider AOC, WAR, Vanguard (and more) all scams?  If not, realize that those games weren't in any better shape than Darkfall is now upon "release" (and surprisingly, I find I enjoy my time in Darkfall a hell of alot more than any of those other games).

Aventurine is actually taking a more intelligent approach by limiting the amount of players who have access to it during its early release.  For a number reasons

(1) to work out kinks before it goes mainstream

(2) to determine demand (thereby determining how many servers are necessary, instead of buying 30 servers which some may never be used)

(3) to get a limited amount of feedback on the actual gameplay, versus having to dig through millions of bug reports, suggestions, questions, and complaints.

The Darkfall dev team, from what I understand, is a fairly small group.  As the time goes by, I expect to see them increase staff and the number of servers.

Also, consider the fact that it takes more than a group of programmers to run a MMORPG.  You need employees (who require to be paid) to maintain the server(s).  You need PR, CSR, techies, project managers, system analysts, and the list goes on.  Right now, again from what I understand, Aventurine is simply a small group of programmers (a couple dozen).  Considering what they've accomplished - and considering I write software - I'm actually impressed by what the small team has accomplished.

Maybe by definition, the game is a "scam."  If that's the case, provide proof that any game that has been released with bugs, missing features, and minimal testing was not a scam by your definition?

The only reason I care is because I've been playing Darkfall whenever the servers are up.  Last night, for about 8 hours straight, I ran around and explored the world with two clan-mates.  Those 8 hours were the best time I've ever had in an MMO.  When 4AM rolled around, I was grudging turning my computer off and going to bed because I didn't want the fun to end.  No game has hooked me like this since my first MMO years ago.

Say what you will.  You are entitled to your opinions, same as all of the people who are playing Darkfall (or who want to play Darkfall) are entitled to theirs.  But don't try to stop other people from having fun because you're not...

YES!
 

Blindchance

Elite Member

Joined: 2/21/09
Posts: 236

3/01/09 6:40:04 PM#74
Originally posted by Omyicanfly

Because they launched it FULLY KNOWING what state it was in. Fully knowing how untested and buggy it was.

You are right ! They did same thing like any other MMO company. Damn them.

Fondel

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/19/05
Posts: 53

Wohoo!!

3/01/09 6:40:59 PM#75

After playing from the beta till today, I fail to see where are all the major bugs you guys are talking about. Of course the game has some little issues, but nothing game breaking. After going through almost all the major mmorpg releases, I can tell you, it is normal to have some bugs at the start. Darkfalls first days might have been the worst I have ever seen in MMO launch, but now its working really smoothly, so I got nothing to complain. Only a few client crashes which didn't even exist in beta.

I just hope they will get the game shop back to working so I could have some more players to slaughter. ^^

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