Originally posted by IAmMMO

Originally posted by dalevi1

Originally posted by Lydon

/waits for trolls to have a field day over a 1 day delay.

 

I have seen post, after post, after post by DF fans over the poast 48 hours trying to bait a flame thread. It seems most of your (plural) posts aim to do nothing but create the environment that you are somehow being virtually oppressed. It's laughable. I should also mention, that if you think the delay has only been 1 day....

It's hopeless.

Edit: There is an "r" in vitually. Got me there.

 

  You hit the nail on the head with that comment! Anybody who doesn't have a 100% positive opinion are jumped on by this army of angry teenage fanbois throwing Troll accusations about, childishly thinking it refutes the factual bad points being made about the game from beta and now this launch. The intellectual level of conversation by what seems a majority of player frequenting the main DF forums and these DF forums is akin to a child's playground. Do you really want to play 42 Euro to join a bunch sociopaths?

'This launch' is what, less than 24 hours old.  I couldn't loot without having to reboot in a game callled World of Warcraft two weeks after they launched.  Therefore World of Warcraft is a complete failure.

If you think that the trolls are right, you are wrong.  If you think the Fanbois are right, you are wrong.  Neither of these groups, these two posters included, are capable of forming objective opinions on the subject.  The game has had some launch issues.  This has happend to EVERY SINGLE MMO GAMING COMPANY OUT THERE.  They're giving away free game time to compensate people for this.  This isn't something that every game company does.

Get some perspective.

Originally posted by brainiak

darkfall is so hardcore i can't even buy it 

actually...you did indeed buy it and were charged...but the game was looted from your bag...now you have to buy it again

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Originally posted by golstat2003

Great post.
Doesn't change the fact that their billing working properly should have been one of the FIRST things they made sure off. Not having a proper billing system that functions from day one, sends a BAD customer service message.
I for one am going to wait 6 months to see how this works out. I'm especially worrying about the conflicting reports about whether the game will be easy to hack. For a PVP-focused game THAT's a deal breaker.

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Agreed. Not much sucks more than getting a game that cheaters are hacking for an advantage... oh, except the game not working at all that is.

Reno

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Originally posted by raykor

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Originally posted by brainiak

darkfall is so hardcore i can't even buy it 

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actually...you did indeed buy it and were charged...but the game was looted from your bag...now you have to buy it again

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ROFLMAO... now THAT'S hardcore!

Reno

Originally posted by grimfall

Originally posted by IAmMMO

Originally posted by dalevi1

Originally posted by Lydon

/waits for trolls to have a field day over a 1 day delay.

 

I have seen post, after post, after post by DF fans over the poast 48 hours trying to bait a flame thread. It seems most of your (plural) posts aim to do nothing but create the environment that you are somehow being virtually oppressed. It's laughable. I should also mention, that if you think the delay has only been 1 day....

It's hopeless.

Edit: There is an "r" in vitually. Got me there.

 

  You hit the nail on the head with that comment! Anybody who doesn't have a 100% positive opinion are jumped on by this army of angry teenage fanbois throwing Troll accusations about, childishly thinking it refutes the factual bad points being made about the game from beta and now this launch. The intellectual level of conversation by what seems a majority of player frequenting the main DF forums and these DF forums is akin to a child's playground. Do you really want to play 42 Euro to join a bunch sociopaths?

 

'This launch' is what, less than 24 hours old.  I couldn't loot without having to reboot in a game callled World of Warcraft two weeks after they launched.  Therefore World of Warcraft is a complete failure.

If you think that the trolls are right, you are wrong.  If you think the Fanbois are right, you are wrong.  Neither of these groups, these two posters included, are capable of forming objective opinions on the subject.  The game has had some launch issues.  This has happend to EVERY SINGLE MMO GAMING COMPANY OUT THERE.  They're giving away free game time to compensate people for this.  This isn't something that every game company does.

Get some perspective.

seriously, if you're going to make claims (which can be refuted by people who actually were there); then, please do a little research first.

my wife, my friends, and myself started WoW on the horrid server known as Hyjal.  we all played a lot that first month.  lag in the cap cities was horrid.  and i can't remember anyone ever complaining that every time they went to loot (for the first two weeks), they had to reboot.  going to have to call shenanigans on that one.  or, perhaps you're the single person that had that issue?

and again, perspective is that NOT all MMOs release and have total crapfest releases -- only the shitty companies do that.  you either have no idea what you're speaking of because you've only tried a handful of games, you're lying, or you're lying to do damage control.

then, for the icing on the cake -- subs are limited in this game IN ORDER TO AVOID ALL THE HORRIBLE ISSUES THAT HAVE PLAGUED GAMES WHICH HAS BAD LAUNCHES.  selective revisionist history doesn't fly online.

don't think to make the wildly wrong statements you've made and then claim to be making an objective post.

Grr, if i cant get into account management, how am I supposed to remove my credit card info...

I'm just happy that the game has indeed finally launched. As long as I remained skeptical, Aventurine has showed us that all those years of hard work will hopefully pay off. While I probably won't be playing DFO, simply because I am against FFA Full Loot PvP games, I do wish them and the fans the best of times as DFO sounds like a fresh start from the redundancy of MMOs lately.

I applaud Aventurine for going the route of lower graphic quality to decrease lag and improve gameplay. I also applaud them for making a sandbox game with a skill based leveling system.

Good luck folks and I hope you all have fun and can't wait to read the initial reviews next month.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

I have no problem with the graphics, they are acceptable to me.  Combat is also pretty much as I expected.  Nice that they do have collision detection, can't really have a pvp without it really.   Client was pretty stable.

The problem with this type of game, it is going to attract the asshats.  So what did Aventurine do, put most of the code client side.  Sure it speeds up server side, but the exploiters are going to have a field day with their code.   This game has only been out in very limited release to selected beta testors and there is already a a list of exploits, cheats, bot programs, etc. out there on the net already.   Going to be a real mess when this game gets into general release.

Then you have the game mechanics problems like the loot theives, really good thinking Aventurine making you get an aggressor's tag just defending your own loot.  How many other things did they not think of?

This might be a good game eventually, but paying to get all the issues straightened out and having to put up with the exploiters is going to be a real test of faith for many.

Me I play games to have fun.  I have been looking for a game that has a decent challenge, but at the moment I just can't put up with an uneven playing field like Darkfall is serving up at present.  Aventurine, especially Tasos, needs to get that arrogant chip off their shoulder and start showing some signs they are in this for the long haul and actively addressing issues.

Only time will tell us what will happen with this game, I wish Aventurine success in achieving a decent game.

I have no argument with most of what you've posted except the bit about loot thieves. I think they DID think about loot thieves and, staying with their original sandbox, player freedom design, did not put any artificial constraints on looting. I don't have any problem with it. If I have to kill to protect my loot, so be it. The only place it really makes a difference is the newbie areas anyway. Went red? So what? big deal.

Anyway, getting back to the rest of your post, I can't fault any of it and it sounds like you have made a fair choice to wait for a more complete and tested product. Myself, even the incomplete and untested product is funner to me than the game I was most recently playing (WAR). Nor are there any other games (most of which I have at least tried) currently on the market I would rather play than an incomplete, buggy DFO. /shrug

What everyone should do is play Asheron's Call while they wait for this game to fix itself (if it ever does).

If you play on the darktide server you get PvP anywhere (safe areas are your own house and the marketplace). Looting players you killed, dodging, collisions. Essentially you have everything darkfall wanted to be but just with older graphics. The game has been running for 10 years successfully, and one of the reasons is the PvP.

It's nice to finally see a game finally approach PvP the way Asheron's Call did 10 years ago. But seems darkfall was not really prepared for the task. So while you're waiting go to ac.turbine.com and get the free trial and start being killed from the moment you get in the game. At least you'll have 14 free days to PvP to see if darkfall gets it's server working.

been tryin to play. The game has great potential...but right now its just a waste of 42 euro....

hopefully the patch they release tonight will make the game semi playable/fun

I am pretty annoyed with the crash to desktop I have been experiencing. But It is no less game breaking than the issues I had with Blizzard when they launched wow.

I was not able to play on Bleeding Hollow with the rest of my clan unless I sat in queue for two hours. And that was all the time I had available during the week so guess what. When they introduced instanced pvp that you could sit in a queue and wait for (Battlegrounds) after three months enough was enough. I canceled my subscription and let then know why,

Did Blizzard make it through with its mmo queuefest? It sure did. So did daoc which launched with no pvp (because frontiers where disabled), no line of sight(shooting arrow through walls and doors) , no horse travel, houses, midrange mob content. But all people can say is how DF which has a lot of content and features at release is so poorly done?

You guys are not looking at this objectively. These supposed great companies with 10 times the budget didn't do any better.

Originally posted by Mhorham

I am pretty annoyed with the crash to desktop I have been experiencing. But It is no less game breaking than the issues I had with Blizzard when they launched wow.

 

I was not able to play on Bleeding Hollow with the rest of my clan unless I sat in queue for two hours. And that was all the time I had available during the week so guess what. When they introduced instanced pvp that you could sit in a queue and wait for (Battlegrounds) after three months enough was enough. I canceled my subscription and let then know why,

Did Blizzard make it through with its mmo queuefest? It sure did. So did daoc which launched with no pvp (because frontiers where disabled), no line of sight(shooting arrow through walls and doors) , no horse travel, houses, midrange mob content. But all people can say is how DF which has a lot of content and features at release is so poorly done?

You guys are not looking at this objectively. These supposed great companies with 10 times the budget didn't do any better.

Trying to save face with this disaster huh?  Well guess what they did exactly what most of us expected fell flat on their faces and in a pout took everything down like the immature kids they are.
 

Oh and I played most of the day the first day of Wow.  A few minor problems, but nothing major.  Same for DAoC.  Sure somethings were in not in game yet.   No one really knows yet what features are not in game for Darkfall yet.  No one has gotten that far in the content.  Can't expect them to be when playing an alpha build.

So you are incorrect trying to compare this to other companies problems, Aventurine has done everyone one better in that department and then acted like spoiled brats about it.

why even bother with this? it's not gona make it go any faster.

wont make a change in the game?

i have been waiting for Full loot PvP for a long time.

if it does not work then oh well wait for the next epic fail.

but my hopes are still up for playing the game < even if it is in another week?

sure delays suck but oh well deal with it.

Originally posted by Lydon

Originally posted by WOWthatsucks 

only one day?......everytime you do a new delay it erases the past ones.....ahagagaga

Which has what relevance to do with the fact that it is being delayed by 1 day?

Just bequiet dude. So much for the best launch ever. *whistles*

Greetings everyone, I just have a simple question that I couldnt find an answer to.

Please I would appreciate if you saved yourself any flaming.

Anyone knows when players that didnt have account in DF will be able to make an account and buy the game? does anyone knows?

Thank you in advance,

Rassil

I have played games like SWG, EVE, WoW, Dark and Light, Tabula Rasa, Warhammer some of them in Beta but all of them at Launch i know Launches never go smoothly but i can live with it because every body is in the same boat, No one gains access befor others unless they had CE and got access befor but even that gets screwed sometimes

Oki why do i think this is the Worst Launch in History of MMORPGs?

Dont get me wrong i am not saying Darkfall doesnt look good and look like a game worth spending 42 euro on, but Aventurine is the most unprofessionel team i have ever experienced, never have a game wasted so much of my time sitting infront of the screen hitting F5 and why is that?

They wait 24 hours befor coming with any feat back on whats happening, then when they come with Feat back it stats a time where they wanna open up for more accounts, 6 hours after the time they said they give out a new time over 12 hours after that time their is still no update, i think that is pissing on alot of people.

If the game was in a Box where you bought it online or in a shop you atleast have a chance to get it and when its sold out their is all ways another place that has it or you have to wait a few days befor new Game Boxes arrive, but in this case it should be all that more Convenient with the Digital Game and Account. But its wasted more of my time then any other game in History.

No Game has been avalible since they Launched the game i say thats Bullshit

And their Web page Shows the Community is gonna suffer no updates in over 4 month how hard is it to come with News

Again i aint saying any thing about the game but No one can Defend what they are doing and how Poorly they update news cause 12-24 hours in between and where they run over Dead lines and first give a Heads up 8-24 hours later is just pissing on people.

Originally posted by Rassil

Greetings everyone, I just have a simple question that I couldnt find an answer to.

 

Please I would appreciate if you saved yourself any flaming.

 

Anyone knows when players that didnt have account in DF will be able to make an account and buy the game? does anyone knows?

 

Thank you in advance,

Rassil

 No one Knows

Man, I'm glad you all are still alive out there, after the initial pre order and all the helpful information I went back to forum to see what was coming next and no one there, just a message saying .....we working on it...wait ....whatever.  No information....tried news, no joy.    Let's get serious now, it would take one guy ...now im gonna think he will put some effort into it, 30 minutes to give an update on what's going on, when we can order or reason they can't expand until they get these bugs out, enough revenue, whaterver.   They instead just keep up all the old info and move on.

While I was waiting for some tidbit of information I went into the mortal online forum....they actually seem to be talking and putting out information.  It's a crazy concept, but I liked it.  

We are the customer, I understand that they might have problems, but it would be in their advantage to keep us in the loop, because in the end they need us,  not the other way around.  Now I know the "right at any cost guys don't care, but a lot of us will.

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Originally posted by Haplos
Man, I'm glad you all are still alive out there, after the initial pre order and all the helpful information I went back to forum to see what was coming next and no one there, just a message saying .....we working on it...wait ....whatever.  No information....tried news, no joy.    Let's get serious now, it would take one guy ...now im gonna think he will put some effort into it, 30 minutes to give an update on what's going on, when we can order or reason they can't expand until they get these bugs out, enough revenue, whaterver.   They instead just keep up all the old info and move on.
While I was waiting for some tidbit of information I went into the mortal online forum....they actually seem to be talking and putting out information.  It's a crazy concept, but I liked it.  
We are the customer, I understand that they might have problems, but it would be in their advantage to keep us in the loop, because in the end they need us,  not the other way around.  Now I know the "right at any cost guys don't care, but a lot of us will.

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Apparently you didn't hear the word on the street from the fanboi crowd... YOU need DARKFALL, not the other way around. Tasos has made it clear before you can either play his l33t game or not, he doesn't care. Well now Darkfall is so l33t you can't even play if you wanted to. Only Tasos can play. ;)

Truly laughing out loud at the hype the fanbois and Tasos have built up for this game, only to see it stumble on its first step. Time will tell (shortly) if it completely falls on its face or not.

Went from mildly interested in the game to now shaking my head in amusement. Somebody said it before... the forums for the game are more fun than the idea of the game itself. LOL

Reno

I think it's quite interessting that alot of people talk about how they "were interested but not anymore" just because of the bad (distasarous? ) launch. Sure, Blizzard did not have the same issues, but they had issues none the less, and they came because of the same reason: unexpected high demand.

Granted, of all of the MMO's I've played since pre-release ---> releas (which is more then I care to list), this takes the prize in the failing competion. However that doesn't mean I stopped being interested in the game.
So what that the updates are poor? I remember when more then half of the European WoW-servers went down and it took more then 24h to get any information on what happen. And this was well after the game was launched. The servers where down for 3 days and we only recived 1 days compensation.
Not exactly fair to the customers, and this is from a company with alot larger pockets then Aventurine.

Besides, a smooth release doesn't say anything about the finished game in the end (*cough* Tabula Rasa *cough*), which I still look forward too despite the delay.

Am I fanboi? Not really. I'm just saving my torch for when it's really deserved.