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  Hives

Novice Member

Joined: 1/29/04
Posts: 173

2/26/09 9:16:23 AM#61

You go play that great game and enjoy. I'll play something else.

  miagisan

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Joined: 7/28/06
Posts: 5121

2/26/09 9:17:37 AM#62

Aventurine did something very smartly though...rather than have forums bitch and complain about a  game, you guys turn off your forums and drop everyone onto 3rd party sites and let them complain there....very smart of you guys Signus....though of course you are just pissing them off even more.

  Mcpoopypants

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Joined: 9/24/08
Posts: 120

2/26/09 9:19:37 AM#63
Originally posted by kdparton
Originally posted by Mcpoopypants
Originally posted by gnlLucid
Originally posted by Mcpoopypants
Originally posted by gnlLucid
Originally posted by imbant
Originally posted by gnlLucid
Originally posted by gnlLucid
Originally posted by imbant

As a beta tester, i was one of many who saw this launch coming.  We begged them to delay and get it sorted out, and you better believe I am very upset with them for messing this up....they made a huge noob move and look pretty bad.

BUT

Just like WoW...they are admitting their mistake...offering 3 days of free play for the 1 day of delay.  Does it excuse them not being ready?  of course not....but it does show that they know when they messed up.

 

Fact is...they have released the game, and the game is still amazing.  The fact that they are retarded with their billing system and ability to handle the flow is a seperate issue.

So sorry if you are claiming "the skeptic were right"...no you werent.  The game isnt vaporware, it released, and the game itself is still the best pvp mmo on the market right now in the fantasy setting....they just are absolutly retarded when it came to how they handled billing.

 

This was expected though, as the haters were going to say they were right now matter what happened, so of course they are getting wet over this....pretty sad when you see gamers say "yes yes yes the game failed"....i feel bad for them.

 

Only pre-orders can log in, no new account registrations will be activated until the server is "stable".  Hell not even all of the pre-orders are activated.  Thus, the game has not been released, just in paid closed beta.

 

 

Heres one you passed up.

 

Yea thats one that I would pass up to get to other posts...especially given your post history on this forum as pure trolling, although that one isnt bad.

The game is released....a bad release...but call it what it is.  It isnt closed beta...thats just strecthing and if you really want to bash df you can do better than that.

 

Ok fine, its released, can you link me to where I can buy it please?

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?p=2827440#post2827440
 

 

your welcome

 

"Servers are finally opening up after a 12 hour delay. Processing the pre-orders took much longer than the original estimate we were given, and we caught a bug at the last minute that we didn’t want to launch with. We apologize for the long delay and we hope you enjoy your first day in Darkfall.

For the players that are getting lobby errors, check your version and if you don’t have build 1.0.35, get it from http://www.eu1.darkfallonline.com/dl/Darkfall.exe

We have extended the free month of play to 33 days to thank you for your patience and to try to begin making up for the inconvenience.

We’ll process the problematic pre-orders that were not charged, and have 0 balance later today. If you pre-ordered successfully but weren’t charged, or haven’t received your final notice for the remaining successful charge, you’ll need to be patient a few hours longer. We’ll also look at opening up more sales by tomorrow. We are a little behind schedule but we're catching up.

Forums have been down due to large volume, almost double our highest traffic to date, people weren’t able to access them. We brought them down in order to be able to post communications so you would know what was going on. MMORPG.com was kind enough to post our first announcement but we need to be able to communicate through the official Darkfall community. Darkfall IRC was causing the Stratics network problems with its volume and it was also temporarily shut down at Stratics request. The forum will be back as soon as possible, and we hope we can keep it up.

We’ll do our best to keep you updated.

Thank you

The Darkfall Team"

 

...The main site still says its in beta... and the forums are down?

 

Can someone please tell me where I can purchase this fine product please?

 

I just did.. dont follow instructions well?? That link brings you to account sigh up page where you can purchase the game. This isnt rocket science
 

Ok Mr Rocket Scientist, try that link of yours then come back here and say that again....I fucking bet you don't
 


 

Thats the link I already used... thank you for adding more fail to a failed thread

kthxbai

  Vorret

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Joined: 8/23/04
Posts: 103

2/26/09 9:23:48 AM#64
Originally posted by downtoearth
Originally posted by Yamanaka
I'm just hoping the game dies fast enough so we can all go back to the true sandbox game called Mortal Online.

lol lol lol mortla is using unreal engine mehw hat game has worked with unreal so far?


 

man you really don't want to go there... unreal is one of the best engine in gaming and many many games have been using it since pretty much ever.

I'll give you that U3 was crap but from UT most of their game has been awesome and anyone with a brain will tell you the same.

Do some research before saying some stupid comments like that.

  Theocritus

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2/26/09 9:25:08 AM#65
Originally posted by imbant

 

And yet it was still more fun to almost every beta tester than the WARs and AoCs months after their release.  I had 2 40s in WAR before I quit...my experience in DF so far was 1000x more fun than my time spent there.

Thanks for helping me prove my point...cant wait to see how much better the game gets with the content we couldnt get to.


 

    YEah and what did you do that was so much fun??

A) Ran from gankers

B) Ran from potential gankers

C) Ran away because I thought I heard something

D) Rode my horse and looked like I was having sex with it

E) Explored a huge world with very few monsters and NPCs in it

F) Got together with 2 friends and ganked noobs

 

       Yes I am sure this is just the funnest game ever made.......All this and Everquest quality graphics on top of it....Its all yours for only 50 dollars.

  SignusM

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Posts: 2279

2/26/09 9:25:21 AM#66
Originally posted by miagisan

Aventurine did something very smartly though...rather than have forums bitch and complain about a  game, you guys turn off your forums and drop everyone onto 3rd party sites and let them complain there....very smart of you guys Signus....though of course you are just pissing them off even more.

Very easily to miscolor the truth, as you keep trying to prove! 

 

Forums were taken down due to the massive flood of people causing no one to be able to load, so, only the news page was put up so people could be updated about the state of the game and everyone have a chance to read it. But you know, that's a bad thing, because Darkall is the evil, its out to steal your money and rape your wife! 

  jonyak

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Joined: 3/16/07
Posts: 342

2/26/09 9:25:41 AM#67
Originally posted by Vorret
Originally posted by downtoearth
Originally posted by Yamanaka
I'm just hoping the game dies fast enough so we can all go back to the true sandbox game called Mortal Online.

lol lol lol mortla is using unreal engine mehw hat game has worked with unreal so far?


 

man you really don't want to go there... unreal is one of the best engine in gaming and many many games have been using it since pretty much ever.

I'll give you that U3 was crap but from UT most of their game has been awesome and anyone with a brain will tell you the same.

Do some research before saying some stupid comments like that.


 

vanguard used the unreal engine. it worked out real good.

  Mcpoopypants

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Joined: 9/24/08
Posts: 120

2/26/09 9:28:39 AM#68
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by Mcpoopypants
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by Borkotron
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by bongloads
Originally posted by Gameloading

Um, they were right. Darkfall turned out to be another Dark & Light,a very low quality mmorpg.


Darkfall proved once more that you can't make a triple A mmorpg on a low budget these days anymore.

 and yet another troll....   

Once you get past the fear of hiding behind your tab-targetting system you might enjoy this game...  nah it's probably too dark and scary for you.


 

Cute, another mindless fanboy drone. Whenever you say something bad about the game you get branded as a "troll". Please by all means, keep thinking you are "Manly" by playing Darkfall. Wow, you're a darkfall player? watch out people, There is a tough guy over here.

 

And you are a mindless troll. How stupid are you to equate a problematic start to a game being exactly like Dark and light or not having any possibility of being a Triple A MMO? How many "triple a" MMOs also had problematic starts? Are they all like Dark & Light too? I mean how stupid can you be to generalize like that?


 

And where was I refering to the launch problems in this thread?  Do you even read posts before you click on reply, or does your mindless fanboi instincts tell you to click the "Reply" button whenever someone dares to say something bad about your low budget, low quality mmorpg?


 

This coming from someone who used to worship Archlord. Archlord has been out for years and Darkfall already beats it hands down. It's obvious you didnt play Darkfall or you'd know its much higher quality then DnL and Archlord


 

ArchLord is far superior to Darkfall. In fact, even many free low budget asian mmorpgs beat Darkfall, it's really that bad.

Archlord doesnt hold a candle to Darkfall your just an AL fanboi
 

  COORS

Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/30/08
Posts: 335

2/26/09 9:31:49 AM#69
Originally posted by imbant
Originally posted by Gameloading

They were right. Darkfall turned out to be another Dark & Light,a very low quality mmorpg.


Darkfall proved once more that you can't make a triple A mmorpg on a low budget these days anymore.

 

Really this is the best the trolls are doing with this bad of a launch...i expected more.

Dark and light?  Ok when Aventurine ends up in court let me know...nothing like DnL lol.

Low quality? nah better than WAR and AoC easy...they just fail at billing


 

First of all. You can never argue personal tastes, never. No one can. Some people like certain games and some people don't. Some people like pizza and some people don't. Doesn't make pizza bad or good.

But... You can argue quality. And while you may enjoy Darkfall, it certainly is NOT the greatest game of all time. Not even close. It's a low budget production that's very similar to many free-to-play games and that's it. And that's all it will ever be whether you enjoy it or not.

So stop trying to convince everyone that this is the greatest thing since sliced bread. It certainly is not.

So you and Downtoearth and many others finally got the game you wanted. You finally can run around like small children killing each other over and over again and looting each other's corpses. Woot!

And when you get tired of this sillyness, don't come here looking for sympathy.

  Czanrei

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Joined: 7/24/05
Posts: 759

"Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate leads to Suffering" -Master Yoda

2/26/09 9:39:00 AM#70
Originally posted by imbant

As a beta tester, i was one of many who saw this launch coming.  We begged them to delay and get it sorted out, and you better believe I am very upset with them for messing this up....they made a huge noob move and look pretty bad.

BUT

Just like WoW...they are admitting their mistake...offering 3 days of free play for the 1 day of delay.  Does it excuse them not being ready?  of course not....but it does show that they know when they messed up.

 

Fact is...they have released the game, and the game is still amazing.  The fact that they are retarded with their billing system and ability to handle the flow is a seperate issue.

So sorry if you are claiming "the skeptic were right"...no you werent.  The game isnt vaporware, it released, and the game itself is still the best pvp mmo on the market right now in the fantasy setting....they just are absolutly retarded when it came to how they handled billing.

 

This was expected though, as the haters were going to say they were right now matter what happened, so of course they are getting wet over this....pretty sad when you see gamers say "yes yes yes the game failed"....i feel bad for them.


 

Don't feel bad for those of us who knew AV released too soon, feel bad for your bank account  paying for an open beta, lol. AV didn't admit to being wrong about anything, they added the 3 days sure, but if you re-read it, they didn't admit to anything but the billing department being behind schedule.

 Which is a whole heck of a lot worse if you are the one paying for the game account unless of course your daddy is paying the bill then I guess I can see where you might not be so worried and feel safe being a loud fanboy. I never said I "hated" the game or wished it to fail, again, pay more attention to the facts. Saying they needed to stay in beta longer is far from hating the game, it's about wanting DF to be what it can be and realize it's potential without causing a lot of gamers a headache physicaly and economicaly.

But like you said the haters are going to hate no matter what, but it's the wrong haters doing the hating, its the annoying fanboys like yourself. There is a difference between being a Fanboy, a Hater, and a smart Gamer. The smart Gamers are going to wait until AV gets their act together before subscribing to pay for an open beta filled with problems, bugs,  half-done animations, and mechanics with a biling system that will rob you blind.

  miagisan

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Joined: 7/28/06
Posts: 5121

2/26/09 9:41:30 AM#71

I have no remorse for the company. They knew this was going to happen, and what do the y do? They shut themselves away from the general public. They closed down the forums and basically said "here..go fend for yourself...we wont be listening to you".

Why else are the forums still down? Cause they do not want to be bothered with you all. Its 540pm in greece right now, how much have you heard from their dev team in the last 9 hours since the game launched?

  Czanrei

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"Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate leads to Suffering" -Master Yoda

2/26/09 9:46:12 AM#72

If their forum servers can't handle the player load, I can only imagine how bad the lag would be in-game if everyone was able to log-in, whether they have multiple servers or not. Point is, their server technology bites and obviously reinforces the fact they should of stayed in beta longer to work on the servers on top of a lot of other stuff.

  miagisan

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Posts: 5121

2/26/09 9:48:07 AM#73

i think alot more of it has to do with the fact their server code is running in Java rather than C#/C++. Java does not have the "backbone" to handle huge amounts of data like an mmorpg has.

  dougmysticey

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2/26/09 9:52:18 AM#74
Originally posted by imbant
Originally posted by kdparton
Originally posted by imbant

As a beta tester, i was one of many who saw this launch coming.  We begged them to delay and get it sorted out, and you better believe I am very upset with them for messing this up....they made a huge noob move and look pretty bad.

BUT

Just like WoW...they are admitting their mistake...offering 3 days of free play for the 1 day of delay.  Does it excuse them not being ready?  of course not....but it does show that they know when they messed up.

 

Fact is...they have released the game, and the game is still amazing.  The fact that they are retarded with their billing system and ability to handle the flow is a seperate issue.

So sorry if you are claiming "the skeptic were right"...no you werent.  The game isnt vaporware, it released, and the game itself is still the best pvp mmo on the market right now in the fantasy setting....they just are absolutly retarded when it came to how they handled billing.

 

This was expected though, as the haters were going to say they were right now matter what happened, so of course they are getting wet over this....pretty sad when you see gamers say "yes yes yes the game failed"....i feel bad for them.


 

Do you realise what you just said?

You begged them to delay the game but at least they admited there mistake by giving all players TWO FUCKING extra days???

So your saying they needed to delay the game by two days?????

You fanbois are hilarious.

 

Are you so quick to troll that you dont bother to read?

You really read my post as me implying they needed to delay by two days?  Yea the fans are the hilarious ones...what are you doing here again?

The fact that they are giving us 3 (why do trolls always change numbers to make their arguement sound more legit...maybe cause they know they are trolling) days just like WoW did on their botched release is them saying that they messed up and giving us something for it...obviously an extra day or two wouldnt have changed this release...they needed a new billing system all together.

Playing Devil's advocate here:
 

I think what he meant was that you begged for a delay as the game was not ready and needed more development time. They gave you two days to compensate for the launch problem but if they still needed time to develop, so what does two days really get you? two extra days of problems because the game was not ready for release.

At least that is how I took it.

Anyway, I hope it sorts out because I am tired of seeing the fans of the MMO genre being constantly dissapointed by bad launches and games being released before they are ready.

 

  Roin

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2/26/09 9:54:12 AM#75

Another thread by Imbant aimed at people he feels are "attacking" his game.  With back up provided by his little cheerleader friend SignusM.  Why am I not surprised?  Imbant, plain and simply.  Stop poking the hornets nest with these foolish threads of yours, and maybe, just maybe.  You wouldn't get the feeling that people are "attacking" your game.

Also you really need to stop making it sound like Darkfall is better then other games.  In your humble opinion it is.  In your opinion it is also more complete/better then other games.  What you find true, does not make it fact or reality for anyone else.  When you are touching on a topic as subjective to personal taste as gaming.  I don't know if Darkfalls imminent release and then finally being released.  That went to your head, but you have been acting quite the fool lately.

Coors post was pretty much right on.


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  xaldraxius

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2/26/09 9:54:41 AM#76

Second rate company, second rate game. Here we sit with the game on the brink of one of the worst releases in MMO history, and all of the DF fanbois are jumping to the game's defense because they still can't admit that they've been taken in by a lot of BS and promises and what they've got in return has been an unstable POS that can't even handle the 10k people it was supposed to. Feeling dumb for pre-ordering yet? Can't say that you weren't warned. But please, continue to mindlessly spout the word of Tasos as if it were gospel, it will surely add to your credibility when you hop on the next game's bandwagon.

  rageagainst

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2/26/09 9:58:51 AM#77
Originally posted by TalRasha
Originally posted by gnlLucid

 

Only pre-orders can log in, no new account registrations will be activated until the server is "stable".  Hell not even all of the pre-orders are activated.  Thus, the game has not been released, just in paid closed beta.


 

That is exactly how I see it too.

The only difference before today is that there are now a bit more people in the game.

Well, technically there is one more difference, and that is that Aventurine is getting paid now for letting people beta test the game.

Ah well, nice for the people who are having fun in the game at the moment (or not yet?). But very bad for the people who wanted to play it and actually did pre-order but not getting anything now. I would hardly call this a release.

this is true, and its also true us beta testers BEGGED the game to be delayed it needed ATLEAST 2 months of extra work since there were some MAJOR common sense fails (pots can be spammed infinitely, you gimp yourself if you're not a polearm/2h sword main)

Clan warfare wise and solo play wise, its a good game, still not worth paying even 5$ a month for (b/c of the pot spam, ridiculous stamina/hp system), however i can see all of its problems being fixed in 2-6months, 2 bad the game will already have released by then, and a game never gets a 2nd chance to release, look at vangaurd, a GREAT game now, much better than DF actually, but NO ONE plays it b/c it had one of the worst mmo launches ever, just like DF will.

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  Darkfall01

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2/26/09 10:03:31 AM#78

Well, i don't know how people can say it's only a 'billing' problem.  I have 3 idiot friends who pre-ordered

1.  Can't get his pre-order account to work, even though he was charged
2.  Can't get past queue anymore.  One time he did get in the game, but had same problem as..
3.  Can get into the game, but can't move.  Can't see any mobs, but can see other players who aren't moving either.

I think it's very wrong to say that the game is 'fine'.. since all I've heard about is either players not being able to get into the game, or not being able to move when they do get into the game.  You keep talking about great 'gameplay', but you are talking about a very very limited beta with very few players.  The 'gameplay' is not so great on the live servers.  I've yet to hear a single report of anyone actually 'playing' the game in the past day...  being frozen in place doesn't count.

  leone2nd

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2/26/09 10:33:05 AM#79
Originally posted by COORS

First of all. You can never argue personal tastes, never. No one can. Some people like certain games and some people don't. Some people like pizza and some people don't. Doesn't make pizza bad or good.

But... You can argue quality. And while you may enjoy Darkfall, it certainly is NOT the greatest game of all time. Not even close. It's a low budget production that's very similar to many free-to-play games and that's it. And that's all it will ever be whether you enjoy it or not.

So stop trying to convince everyone that this is the greatest thing since sliced bread. It certainly is not.

So you and Downtoearth and many others finally got the game you wanted. You finally can run around like small children killing each other over and over again and looting each other's corpses. Woot!

And when you get tired of this sillyness, don't come here looking for sympathy.

 

So ..it finally came down to this.

 

The game launched, people are enjoying it..yes it has at least some people that do enjoy it from day 1 contrary to all the trolls out there.

It might be a bit premature to judge for now but as soon as the smoke calms down it will be evident that Darkfall is the greatest game of all time at least for much people. I am far from being a fanboy since I used to criticise them harshly all this time, but the dudes actually can deliver!

What I quoted above is an indication about which direction the occasional trolls and the full time Darkfall bashers will take next.

 

Well cry me a river carebears, the game is out. Now go troll in WoW about that game world having no depth.

 

C ya I'm off to have fun in Darkfall!

  //\\//\\oo

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2/26/09 10:37:50 AM#80
Originally posted by miagisan

i think alot more of it has to do with the fact their server code is running in Java rather than C#/C++. Java does not have the "backbone" to handle huge amounts of data like an mmorpg has.

 

  Don't blame this on Java: The worst part about Java is actually compiling it; once compiled and built it is as good as any other language.

Some applications are written entirely in Java ( i.e. Runescape) , so it has a very sufficient "backbone". People just prefer to use older languages like C/C++/Fortran, because they already have vast libraries written for them.

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