Originally posted by APEist

 Odd... during beta, there were 3 starting cities out of 18 that had bugged goblin spawns... may I ask which starter spot you chose?

I know that Inner Ormhold in the mahirim lands had bugged gob spawns... the town there is where I started.

I quickly managed to find spawns of kobolds elsewhere, however.

Yep, was the inner Mahirim lands where I started. the middle choice.

Hey every other mmo I've ever played had mobs everywhere out of the towns.  And I've played UO, AC1, AC2, EQ, EQ2, WoW, DAoC, Horizons, SWG, Irth, Guild Wars, Eve, Lineage, Lineage 2, Perfect World, Warhammer, AoC, CoH, D&L, Mourning, Vanguard, FF 11, Saga of Ryzom, and probably 20 more. 

But I'm a "nub" cuz I think I might see some kinda life out of the town. 

Yeh DF is just different cuz it's better then all those other games.  it's being a huge ass barren, empty lifeless world is GREAT! 

What the fuck ever. 

Quite frankley, I might have given this game another shot.  But if the only life that I'll find in this world is the kindof community that has responded here... you people should be ashamed of mocking the WoW community. 

I never gave a "final review", I clearly stated I was simply judging it based on 20 minutes of seeing nothing.

Originally posted by Zayne3145

Originally posted by rr2real

lol you fuckin noob you have to hunt the monsters they migrate from camp to camp

l2play

 

Lmao. If this is meant without a shred of irony tnen I have just lost all hope in the human race.

Hmm lol you assumed it was in irony? You dont come here often do you? Try the official DF forums, you will be in for a bigger shock, this tool, likely was cultivated in that pile of goatshit, and came here to share his good manners.

Originally posted by DaysGoneBy

Great community.

DF has one of the worst communities in the history of gaming. You just need to read the Fanboys' posts for a few minutes to realise this. You can tell them apart by their overuse of phrases such as: "Carebear", "Go back to WoW" and "DF isn't for you".

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by DaysGoneBy

I created a character.  Worked fine.  Not enough options, but that's cool.

Enter the world from one of three possible areas.

I see two players around town.  One is sitting, the other running around exploring it looks like.

So I equip my only weapon, looks like a dagger.  I head out of the town to try and find some quick action.

I run.  I run a huge circle.  I see nothing.  I take no damage from anything.  Even from jumping from high on a cliff. 

You can climb mountains at ease.  Almost as fast, if not as fast as if it were flat terrain.  Kinda silly.

But for Christ's sake!  I see not one fucking monster of any kind running around in a giant circle around the outpost i started in.  I took no damage from anything.

I noticed that I could have chopped would or mined for stone. Great, I have no tools though.  I might could have casted a spell while running, but no staff.  No money to buy one.  Nothing to fight to get stuff or money.

Then the fucking game crashed, server down or whatever as I was headed back to town to look for players to maybe get some kindof action.

Sheesh.

Graphics are pretty damn good to be honest.  Clipping is bad.  World is too dark, but the shadows are nicely done.  Smooth running, I had no lag at all.

But god damn, I'm was so bored my first 20 minutes in the game, I'm going to bed.

I will try tomorrow, but right now I am less then inspired.

AV - Give us some shit to fight man.  Nothing is fun about running for 20 minutes and not seeing one freaking mob!

First reaction score - Graphics 8/10.  Gameplay: 2/10  Fun factor: 1/10, Overall 2/10  I hope it gets better!

 

 

lol you fuckin noob you have to hunt the monsters they migrate from camp to camp

l2play

O'really? There are huge parts of the world that appear to be completely unpoplultaed. Currently wanderes are out 'you fing noob'.  In beta 1 in 3 of each races starting areas where completely unpopulated, probabbly still are.  Which was a bitch if you started there. One of the things that make the game feel empty lifeless charmless and ultimately soulless. A lot like D&L was.

The game is designed to be light on the monsters.   They are an important resource to be fought over.    They aren't everywhere like people are used to in other games.

Originally posted by DaysGoneBy

Originally posted by APEist

 Odd... during beta, there were 3 starting cities out of 18 that had bugged goblin spawns... may I ask which starter spot you chose?

I know that Inner Ormhold in the mahirim lands had bugged gob spawns... the town there is where I started.

I quickly managed to find spawns of kobolds elsewhere, however.

 

Yep, was the inner Mahirim lands where I started. the middle choice.

Hey every other mmo I've ever played had mobs everywhere out of the towns.  And I've played UO, AC1, AC2, EQ, EQ2, WoW, DAoC, Horizons, SWG, Irth, Guild Wars, Eve, Lineage, Lineage 2, Perfect World, Warhammer, AoC, CoH, D&L, Mourning, Vanguard, FF 11, Saga of Ryzom, and probably 20 more. 

But I'm a "nub" cuz I think I might see some kinda life out of the town. 

Yeh DF is just different cuz it's better then all those other games.  it's being a huge ass barren, empty lifeless world is GREAT! 

What the fuck ever. 

Quite frankley, I might have given this game another shot.  But if the only life that I'll find in this world is the kindof community that has responded here... you people should be ashamed of mocking the WoW community. 

I never gave a "final review", I clearly stated I was simply judging it based on 20 minutes of seeing nothing.

Just run to any of the other starting town in the Mahirim area... you will find plenty of spawns.

Originally posted by Shawk

No cookie crumbs for you to follow eh?

Seriously, if you you need some kind of carrot running in front of you to have fun, the game probably is not for you. The focus on this game is community, go around and try to kill some goblins, group up with some other people, get some loot in your bag, get some gold in your bank, then maby join a guild and start doing some pvp.

Your not going to have fun if you just walk around picking out all the imperfections of the game.

How many hours should he have spent looking for a single person?

An empty world worries me aswell.

Don't worry about these blindies trying to troll, they will be the first (and louder) ones complaining here when the release gets decent and there is 100 guys camping each  spawn of six goblins or moving to something different is not possible without "grinding" skills first at those goblins.

Originally posted by Zayne3145

Originally posted by DaysGoneBy

Great community.

 

DF has one of the worst communities in the history of gaming. You just need to read the Fanboys' posts for a few minutes to realise this. You can tell them apart by their overuse of phrases such as: "Carebear", "Go back to WoW" and "DF isn't for you".

Well, to be completely honest, Darkfall ISN'T for most mmo gamers.  I wouldn't really classify it as an insult.

Originally posted by APEist

Originally posted by Zayne3145

Originally posted by DaysGoneBy

Great community.

 

DF has one of the worst communities in the history of gaming. You just need to read the Fanboys' posts for a few minutes to realise this. You can tell them apart by their overuse of phrases such as: "Carebear", "Go back to WoW" and "DF isn't for you".

 

Well, to be completely honest, Darkfall ISN'T for most mmo gamers.  I wouldn't really classify it as an insult.

darfall is a game for people who aren't pussies

 Honestly, besides fixing the starter towns with bugged spawns, I hope the DON'T add more world spawns... unless they are non-agroing wildlife, such as deer and such.  Or maybe low-agro things such as bobcats, etc.

The entire world is a battle ground, remember, and accidentally agroing a mob (or mobs) while in the heat of a pvp battle was INCREDIBLY annoying.  

I am all for them populating/activating all their dungeon and fortress location spawns, however.

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by APEist

Originally posted by Zayne3145

Originally posted by DaysGoneBy

Great community.

 

DF has one of the worst communities in the history of gaming. You just need to read the Fanboys' posts for a few minutes to realise this. You can tell them apart by their overuse of phrases such as: "Carebear", "Go back to WoW" and "DF isn't for you".

 

Well, to be completely honest, Darkfall ISN'T for most mmo gamers.  I wouldn't really classify it as an insult.

darfall is a game for people who aren't pussies

Yes, throwing personal insults at people while you hide behind the internet or behind a POS game makes you really tough. 

lol

I've never played an MMO that grabbed me in the first 20minutes. I've seen some cool tutorials, but those don't really count since they're not in-game.

I thought the game was pretty good, but not great until a few days later when I started getting better and doing more things.

As for finding the starting monsters, just talk to the first NPC you see (he should be right next to where you spawned) and he'll mark them on the map for you.

 I have a question:
Did they add skin tones to character creation?

Hate to flame but this "launch" seems to have some horrible simularities to a little game called DnL...... /shivers

Originally posted by APEist

 Honestly, besides fixing the starter towns with bugged spawns, I hope the DON'T add more world spawns... unless they are non-agroing wildlife, such as deer and such.  Or maybe low-agro things such as bobcats, etc.

The entire world is a battle ground, remember, and accidentally agroing a mob (or mobs) while in the heat of a pvp battle was INCREDIBLY annoying.  

I am all for them populating/activating all their dungeon and fortress location spawns, however.

Yes, I agree with you to some extent. But there is a happy middle ground between a pure PvE mob population/density and a barren world.

A few roaming spawns would solve one of the biggest issues for me right now: World spontaneous combat looks like The Benny Hill Online.

With the risk of getting mob agro, maybe people would stop sprinting in random direccions as long as their stamina let's them do so or the guys behind arrow them down after 1-2 minutes chase.

Originally posted by DaysGoneBy

Originally posted by APEist

 Odd... during beta, there were 3 starting cities out of 18 that had bugged goblin spawns... may I ask which starter spot you chose?

I know that Inner Ormhold in the mahirim lands had bugged gob spawns... the town there is where I started.

I quickly managed to find spawns of kobolds elsewhere, however.

 

Yep, was the inner Mahirim lands where I started. the middle choice.

Hey every other mmo I've ever played had mobs everywhere out of the towns.  And I've played UO, AC1, AC2, EQ, EQ2, WoW, DAoC, Horizons, SWG, Irth, Guild Wars, Eve, Lineage, Lineage 2, Perfect World, Warhammer, AoC, CoH, D&L, Mourning, Vanguard, FF 11, Saga of Ryzom, and probably 20 more. 

But I'm a "nub" cuz I think I might see some kinda life out of the town. 

Yeh DF is just different cuz it's better then all those other games.  it's being a huge ass barren, empty lifeless world is GREAT! 

What the fuck ever. 

Quite frankley, I might have given this game another shot.  But if the only life that I'll find in this world is the kindof community that has responded here... you people should be ashamed of mocking the WoW community. 

I never gave a "final review", I clearly stated I was simply judging it based on 20 minutes of seeing nothing.

Yeah cos its totally realistic for a band of gobbos to permanently set up camp right outside the front gates of a hostile city

Oh my gosh! Those gobbos are actually hiding from you?! The swine! How dare they try and survive and hide away from the murdering players out to hunt them. Oh why cant all the mobs be dumb and stupid like in all the previous braindead mmos with zero AI. Its not fair! It should be piss easy like you're used to right? They should all be standing around in the wilderness waiting to be farmed by the players. This is outrageous! Now you're gonna have to struggle against all the mental conditioning you have been subjected to over the past 10 years 

Originally posted by judex99

Originally posted by rr2real

 

 

lol you fuckin noob you have to hunt the monsters they migrate from camp to camp

l2play

 

LOL

lol epic failure anyone? hahahaha my god what a shitty as low budget disaster no wonder they failed

BTW you wokred out your totals wrong for your score

for teh overall you should have added the total together then divided by the categories you were marking on

so 11 in total over 3 categories makes 3/10 not 2/10

just saying

and as a Beta Tester I can clearly confirm mobs are there to be found, you jsut gotta search, adn a little further than starter town, but beyond Gobs and occasional 'low level' mobs (trolls/Kobolds/Skelleis etc) you will need help or face a lot of running away like a little girl cos you might die with your loot :)

Originally posted by harmonica

I've never played an MMO that grabbed me in the first 20minutes. I've seen some cool tutorials, but those don't really count since they're not in-game.

I thought the game was pretty good, but not great until a few days later when I started getting better and doing more things.

As for finding the starting monsters, just talk to the first NPC you see (he should be right next to where you spawned) and he'll mark them on the map for you.

 I have a question:
Did they add skin tones to character creation?

He's bugged (non existant) in 1 in 3 starter towns too (or was at least) anyway dosent hep he directs you to empty camps anyway if you are a '1 in 3'. Run to another starter town (you wll get a taste of how empty the world is) or better just re-roll and select another start spot. To repeat 1 in 3 starter towns  are completely screwed. Dosen't create a good first experience.

Originally posted by Calamar

Originally posted by APEist

 Honestly, besides fixing the starter towns with bugged spawns, I hope the DON'T add more world spawns... unless they are non-agroing wildlife, such as deer and such.  Or maybe low-agro things such as bobcats, etc.

The entire world is a battle ground, remember, and accidentally agroing a mob (or mobs) while in the heat of a pvp battle was INCREDIBLY annoying.  

I am all for them populating/activating all their dungeon and fortress location spawns, however.

 

Yes, I agree with you to some extent. But there is a happy middle ground between a pure PvE mob population/density and a barren world.

A few roaming spawns would solve one of the biggest issues for me right now: World spontaneous combat looks like The Benny Hill Online.

With the risk of getting mob agro, maybe people would stop sprinting in random direccions as long as their stamina let's them do so or the guys behind arrow them down after 1-2 minutes chase.

The thing is, often times you need to run while your fighting NOT because you mean to flee, but because you sense other players around you.

For instance, I would often PK in the human lands (as a mahirim), and when I engaged 1 or 2 or 3 players on my own, sometimes I would notice a glimmer or a noise in the distance.  Now, I don't want any more humans to just come traipsing around discover my fight... I've already got all I can handle.  So, often times I will flee, just to move the fight to a more discreet or hidden location.

BTW, I know the mahirim, dwarf, ork, and the humans lands well.  I've also explored Yssam.  The only area I would describe as desolate was Yssam.

I could easily find spawns in the mahirim, dwarf, ork, and human lands.  The only thing that annoyed me was most dungeons/fortresses being unpopulated/unactivated.

Originally posted by DaysGoneBy

I created a character.  Worked fine.  Not enough options, but that's cool.

Enter the world from one of three possible areas.

I see two players around town.  One is sitting, the other running around exploring it looks like.

So I equip my only weapon, looks like a dagger.  I head out of the town to try and find some quick action.

I run.  I run a huge circle.  I see nothing.  I take no damage from anything.  Even from jumping from high on a cliff. 

You can climb mountains at ease.  Almost as fast, if not as fast as if it were flat terrain.  Kinda silly.

But for Christ's sake!  I see not one fucking monster of any kind running around in a giant circle around the outpost i started in.  I took no damage from anything.

I noticed that I could have chopped would or mined for stone. Great, I have no tools though.  I might could have casted a spell while running, but no staff.  No money to buy one.  Nothing to fight to get stuff or money.

Then the fucking game crashed, server down or whatever as I was headed back to town to look for players to maybe get some kindof action.

Sheesh.

Graphics are pretty damn good to be honest.  Clipping is bad.  World is too dark, but the shadows are nicely done.  Smooth running, I had no lag at all.

But god damn, I'm was so bored my first 20 minutes in the game, I'm going to bed.

I will try tomorrow, but right now I am less then inspired.

AV - Give us some shit to fight man.  Nothing is fun about running for 20 minutes and not seeing one freaking mob!

First reaction score - Graphics 8/10.  Gameplay: 2/10  Fun factor: 1/10, Overall 2/10  I hope it gets better!

 

 

There are goblins in 3 camps about... 5 second run from the start citym and alllll around the world there are mercian highwaymen, trolls, zombies, skeletons, dragons, golems, raven veterans, servii, spiders, there are monsters EVERYWHERE

Originally posted by Gorilla

Originally posted by harmonica

I've never played an MMO that grabbed me in the first 20minutes. I've seen some cool tutorials, but those don't really count since they're not in-game.

I thought the game was pretty good, but not great until a few days later when I started getting better and doing more things.

As for finding the starting monsters, just talk to the first NPC you see (he should be right next to where you spawned) and he'll mark them on the map for you.

 I have a question:
Did they add skin tones to character creation?

 

He's bugged (non existant) in 1 in 3 starter towns too (or was at least) anyway dosent hep he directs you to empty camps anyway if you are a '1 in 3'. Run to another starter town (you wll get a taste of how empty the world is) or better just re-roll and select another start spot. To repeat 1 in 3 starter towns  are completely screwed. Dosen't create a good first experience.

The area between the starter cities and the capital is barren of wildlife and any mobs besides goblins, just as it should be.  They are the most civilized locations on the map.

Run to another races territory or towards the center of the map and you are bound to happen upon 4-5+ spawns of various creatures.

For instance, running from the mahirim to the dwarven lands for the first time, I ran into Revenants, Centaurs, Oathbounds, somethingmoon Gaurdians, Mountain Trolls, and Dire Zombies.  Running from the Dwarven to the Ork lands, I happened upon the Svartensomething (evil npc dwarves), Skeleton warriors, Black Knights, Servants of Maulat, Sarlids, Hivekin, Swamp Hags, and Fire Sprites.  

I could go on.  I know of MANY spawns in DFO.  As many as other MMOs?  Hardly.  Still, there are plenty.  I will admit that it would be nice to add some non or low agro creatures to the game, and the devs definitely need to activate all the dungeons.

Not playing and not a huge fan either but OP you would have known this if you read a bit about the game before you bought it. Ofcourse there wasn't much action since the launch was rather "terrible". So I'd advise you to wait it out till more people are on the server :)

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by APEist

Originally posted by Zayne3145

Originally posted by DaysGoneBy

Great community.

 

DF has one of the worst communities in the history of gaming. You just need to read the Fanboys' posts for a few minutes to realise this. You can tell them apart by their overuse of phrases such as: "Carebear", "Go back to WoW" and "DF isn't for you".

 

Well, to be completely honest, Darkfall ISN'T for most mmo gamers.  I wouldn't really classify it as an insult.

darfall is a game for people who aren't pussies

This is why Darkfall will, at best, struggle....a community containing the worst kind of leet kiddies spewing their impotent angst into a game because if they did it in real life somebody would probably punch them out.

Originally posted by Aragoni

First of all you must be fucking stupid, ignorant and away with the fairies if you think people require the RIGHT to "review" anything.

Second of all this game is not for everyone. I agree, it wouldn't hurt the game if they added more mobs, and wildlife, but I had no difficulties in finding them in beta.

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