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Originally posted by imbant
There was 10k+ pre orders for Dark and Light. What the fuck is your point? Beyond being a fanboy do you HONESTLY think that even half of the people who pre order this horrific featureless amateur mess even SAW yet what they pre ordered? NO.. just like DnL These people will NOT be around for long after they finally see what they ordered. Just like Dark and Light. You better sit back tight.. because a train wreck is about to unfold.
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Good thing they opened up the doors to order this today right?!? Right??@?
Oh Wait they haven't
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Originally posted by Lughsan
FAIL FAIL MEH MEH KING OF THE CASTLE
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safwd
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Joined: 4/23/06
"Dovie`andi se tovya sagain" "I`m a farmer, a gambler and I`m here to take over your army" |
Originally posted by winter
His numbers where something even he admits he made up out of thin air, and stated as fact. Do you get it now? I have little problem with the statement in itself, I just get tired of the fans making up BS to power their arguements. (and yes some of the trolls are just as bad) If someones gonna make up shit like, only the trolls said DF was not a niche game (would make WAR or even WoW like sub numbers) etc then I WILL point it out as BS. I have no doubt if I go around making up shit about DF thats negative the Fans will call me on it. So correct me if I'm wrong your saying we should just accept what the fans say without question even when we know they have no facts to back up their points? Personally i'd say doing such would be the act of a simpleton. You've already stated WoW is for intelligent chimps, so I assume you believe that anyone that plays DF is somerhow smarter and better. Guess the whole "different people have different playstyles and everyone should be able to play whats fun to them without being labled a "intelligent chimp" point would be wasted here. And here i was thinking that everyone understood that he wasnt actually stating those numbers as fact, guess not. But lets just say that he was stating these numbers as fact. If so then the numbers he quoted for WoW would be about 5% of the population, and most who are willing to put a reasonable number on the audience size for a ffa pvp game with full loot they would probably say somewhere between 200 and 300K. So if you take the middle of that figure his numbers would have then made up about 4% of the target audience for Darkfall. (No, im not saying Darkfall will have that many, im saying that that is a reasonable number to look for if the game is any good) Of course you dont just accept anything that the fans say, nor the non fans. But you also dont jump on something that you know was not actually based on any fact by acting like you actually think he was trying to state fact. Perhaps the Chimp comment was too much, im not sure it is because the game is really not complicated, but perhaps. I know quite small children can figure it out. But anyway, i said others that WoW was made for also. You did make a very good point about the "different people having different playstyles and they should be able to play whats fun for them without being labeled" but since this is a Darkfall forum, and i was actually showing support for the game that this forum is for, im wondering if you are going through the threads and telling everyone on here that is bashing DF and its playerbase the same thing. |
Originally posted by safwd And here i was thinking that everyone understood that he wasnt actually stating those numbers as fact, guess not. But lets just say that he was stating these numbers as fact. If so then the numbers he quoted for WoW would be about 5% of the population, and most who are willing to put a reasonable number on the audience size for a ffa pvp game with full loot they would probably say somewhere between 200 and 300K. So if you take the middle of that figure his numbers would have then made up about 4% of the target audience for Darkfall. (No, im not saying Darkfall will have that many, im saying that that is a reasonable number to look for if the game is any good) Of course you dont just accept anything that the fans say, nor the non fans. But you also dont jump on something that you know was not actually based on any fact by acting like you actually think he was trying to state fact. Perhaps the Chimp comment was too much, im not sure it is because the game is really not complicated, but perhaps. I know quite small children can figure it out. But anyway, i said others that WoW was made for also. You did make a very good point about the "different people having different playstyles and they should be able to play whats fun for them without being labeled" but since this is a Darkfall forum, and i was actually showing support for the game that this forum is for, im wondering if you are going through the threads and telling everyone on here that is bashing DF and its playerbase the same thing.
Yea I wasn't stating those numbes as fact...i even made a post in this thread that detailed my explanation of those numbers. Ever common sense person , or those that can read, understood it (the person who flat out asked me what i meant got it )...winter is just trolling plain and simple and is upset cause he cant /lol vaporz anymore. ~~ Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296 "The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester "If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos |
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Originally posted by Netzoko
Lol vaporz remove df from mmorpg.com right netzoko?
Sorry but you have no credibility here anymore, but please keep posting as it just reminds the common sense crowd that we have been right all these years. ~~ Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296 "The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester "If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos |
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Originally posted by Syyth007
Both of these things highlighted sections are in darkfall. different spells have different cooldowns, and you get to choose which spells/skills to specialize in, to create the exact template you want. There's magical gear in darkfall too, and it DOES make a dif when fighting harder mobs. I found a key to open a veliron chest, where i got a magical plate chest that had extra bludgeoning protection, then a bow that had a + 3 dex modifier (could only tell after i'd equipped it too, which makes me wonder if i'd trashed any other magical stuff) |
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Originally posted by Zayne3145 I think he just meant 10 and the rest is just being optimistic. :)
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Originally posted by dark_fail09
Not realy is you see what the game has to offer it's good in it's own way (i like to say that 
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Originally posted by imbant
Yea it is really doing a number on guilds, but if that what they need to do to have a smooth release then im ok with it. They will allow others to buy the game on the 25th, but i dont see it being any easier than preorders.
gl
Wow, you guys are ok with anything. Crap practice imo. Secondly the only reason so many people as you claim can t wait to get in, is two fold. 1. They can t as fore mentioned. 2. They don t know anything about the game, except alot of misguided information, from some rabid fans. Played beta and I m in shock so many people are paying for a game they no next to nothing about. Shocking really. |
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Originally posted by Leucent
Yea it is really doing a number on guilds, but if that what they need to do to have a smooth release then im ok with it. They will allow others to buy the game on the 25th, but i dont see it being any easier than preorders.
gl
Wow, you guys are ok with anything. Crap practice imo. Secondly the only reason so many people as you claim can t wait to get in, is two fold. 1. They can t as fore mentioned. 2. They don t know anything about the game, except alot of misguided information, from some rabid fans. Played beta and I m in shock so many people are paying for a game they no next to nothing about. Shocking really. sorry if you cant stomach full loot open pvp...no reason for you to be "shocked" that others like it and DArkfall excites them. Sorry but when you are talking about the number of people interetested in this game, it is not just "a few fanbois" the game is good for some people...get over it. ~~ Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296 "The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester "If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos |
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Thank God for 3rd world countries like greece that considers 10+k player base a success! I think im in the wrong line of work and need to move over there so i can open up a shop draw a few stick figures and call it game to sell as a product, sure beats coding for enterprise peanuts! Hope you enjoy killing the same person in a recycled community.
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10,000 "pre-orders" -50% for gold sellers -1000 family and friends -3,900 because Tasos is a pathelogical liar |
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What's fun about it from your experience? Care to expand on this very important bit of info for those of us on the fence? |
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Originally posted by shadow417
Not realy is you see what the game has to offer it's good in it's own way (i like to say that
I'm sure some part of that made sense... just not sure which part exactly. |
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Originally posted by IAmMMO
The following is my opinion.... The world is amazing. Environement graphics put WoW, WAR, anything fantasy to shame. The animations arent good but oh many is the world designed beautifully. PVP is rewarding. Judging the reach of your opponent, stamina, aim, sneaking around with no glowy tags on your head, full loot, have to be on your guard, risk v reward, i could go on...best fantasy pvp experience on the market right now and it isnt even close. If they improve on the crafting system, which they said they will but its not on the top of the list, crafting will be amazing given the economy generated from durability on equipment and full loot pvp. City building, naval combat, being able to go off the grid.... NO CLASSES Just exploring the world is an experience that brought me hours of entertainment in beta. I could really go on, but the game is just flat out fun and with full servers, it is only going to get better. The potential down the road is amazing once they have more time to add stuff, and they patch VERY OFTEN. LOL @ the people who said lack of communication which they told us they wouldnt be giving meant slow patches. This game is more fun than WAR was months after release, cant wait to see it in 6 months. ~~ Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296 "The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester "If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos |
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corpusc
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Originally posted by Zayne3145
the 10k figure comes from the fact that the devs have stated that DF servers can hold 10k simultaneous players. dunno if they actually can, only the devs would know that. but that's where the number comes from.
since generally only a certain percentage of all players with characters on a server will be logged in, and assuming they can handle at least 5k simultaneous, this would put the numbers of pre-orders in the 10s of thousands. The End |
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DuraheLL
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Joined: 12/14/05
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Originally posted by imbant
The following is my opinion.... The world is amazing. Environement graphics put WoW, WAR, anything fantasy to shame. The animations arent good but oh many is the world designed beautifully.
But the animations ARE part of the graphics. If there are only beautiful landscapes but the rest (animations) looks like flubber, the overall graphical impression isn't very mint
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Kyleran
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Joined: 9/13/06
"In EVE, no one gives a damn about a fair fight." - chafin |
Originally posted by imbant
The following is my opinion.... The world is amazing. Environement graphics put WoW, WAR, anything fantasy to shame. The animations arent good but oh many is the world designed beautifully. PVP is rewarding. Judging the reach of your opponent, stamina, aim, sneaking around with no glowy tags on your head, full loot, have to be on your guard, risk v reward, i could go on...best fantasy pvp experience on the market right now and it isnt even close. If they improve on the crafting system, which they said they will but its not on the top of the list, crafting will be amazing given the economy generated from durability on equipment and full loot pvp. City building, naval combat, being able to go off the grid.... NO CLASSES Just exploring the world is an experience that brought me hours of entertainment in beta. I could really go on, but the game is just flat out fun and with full servers, it is only going to get better. The potential down the road is amazing once they have more time to add stuff, and they patch VERY OFTEN. LOL @ the people who said lack of communication which they told us they wouldnt be giving meant slow patches. This game is more fun than WAR was months after release, cant wait to see it in 6 months.
Hey now, that's a pretty low bar to jump over, even a troll such as I give DF more credit than that. "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon EVE Cult member since May 2007 Regarding EVE: "To be honest, I think God himself created this game." - Shek Regarding new players in EVE: "Think of yourself as a child released into a park full of pedophiles..." - Eleazaros |
Originally posted by corpusc
the 10k figure comes from the fact that the devs have stated that DF servers can hold 10k simultaneous players. dunno if they actually can, only the devs would know that. but that's where the number comes from.
since generally only a certain percentage of all players with characters on a server will be logged in, and assuming they can handle at least 5k simultaneous, this would put the numbers of pre-orders in the 10s of thousands.
Developers are the last people to ask about capacity numbers. I'd rather hear what the Stress Test team has to say.. Is there a Stress team on this project? Probably not enough funds for that stuff. Most companies cut those resources. Name the last MMO that had a smooth launch? :) I've seen developers claim numbers before, but they don't understand everything about performance. For instance, if you are using Windows Server, the TCP/IP stack has certain shortcomings that can cause performance issues around network traffic when mixing the connect types. Slow, Fast, long hop connections all coming in at once, will affect the stack differently. Most people don't even realize this until they have a real world stress test going. This is just one of many little things to consider when projecting capacity numbers from a small set of users to a theoretic large set. |
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Originally posted by imbant
The following is my opinion.... The world is amazing. Environement graphics put WoW, WAR, anything fantasy to shame. The animations arent good but oh many is the world designed beautifully.
It doesn't put AoC's to shame ;) |
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No, they've been playing a "beta" test you f*cktard. One the people have been saying is gimped with features turned off that will be "activated" on release or some BS. So GG, until the game goes live today and those thousands of people who pre-ordered are actually able to login and play, the trash talking is our domain. Go crawl back into your hole until then. Then, if AV actually does release their shoddy bugged out game today, you can come back and sling some mud about being able to play a rusty game that was top-o-the-line a decade ago. OmG, GG d3wd, a game u c4n g4ng up on p3ople 4nd l00t th3ir c0rpse ag4in!!/??? OMG! u r t00 c00l for sch00l. |
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Originally posted by Xaaa
Yes Xaaa with 12 posts. It was wrong for anyone to insinuate u where a troll. surely a person who comes here, to a Darkfall forum, with no interest in the game at all, and posts suggestive opinion without having even tested the game, isnt some form of forum troll whos only intent is to irritate other people.
-Darkstar
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Originally posted by Darkstar111
Yes Xaaa with 12 posts. It was wrong for anyone to insinuate u where a troll. surely a person who comes here, to a Darkfall forum, with no interest in the game at all, and posts suggestive opinion without having even tested the game, isnt some form of forum troll whos only intent is to irritate other people.
-Darkstar
This. ~~ Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296 "The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester "If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos |
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