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javac

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2/16/09 10:56:37 AM#226
Originally posted by yamren

Just perused my favorite hard core bad ass guild board to see what they were saying about Dark and Fail. Oh boy are they really "happy" with it. Steaming pile is being complimentary to it over there. These are guys that brought fear into the hearts of many people back on the Sullon Zek server. Sounds like they got a guild invite and they are slaughtering this POS. 2 big complaints are either UI blows chunks or that combat mechanics make WAR look good.

Can't wait for the 25th, hell may have to call in sick that day

 

lol, are you seriously calling an Everquest/WOW guild "hardcore"?

 

dude even hardcore fanbois say WOW carebears will not like DF.

javac

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2/16/09 10:58:04 AM#227
Originally posted by CaesarsGhost

And you're STILL not answering all the questions because

A) You don't know the answer.
2) You don't have the information (which, don't feel bad, nobody seems to).
Lastly) You're only picking battles you think you have a remote chance of possibly winning.

...you're losing at "lastly", by the way Dr "wtfpwn"

 

i don't even know what "question" you're talking about. No doubt something trivial that any reasonable person could find within 10 secs of googling.

 

btw Dr wtfpwn sounds great to me, gonna use it in TF2 from now on. didn't think i'd be able to come up with a better/funnier name than r0x0r mc0wnage, but i think that might have done it, thanks!

javac

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2/16/09 11:04:49 AM#228
Originally posted by yamren

Give Javac a break, he is a big international computer geek so he was probably thinking in binary or octal, yeah that's the ticket he was using a different number base that all you ignorant mmorpg.com trolls can't understand.

 

this is mostly true, it's been a while since i had to work with actual numbers, though the truth is, i have a 3 week old newborn, and haven't had more than 3-4 hours sleep since he was born, and i simply fucked up.

 

you'd have to have had a kid to understand.

r0guy

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2/16/09 11:06:48 AM#229

Originally posted by javac
Originally posted by r0guy

SELF-OWNED

lol, you've self-owned yourself like 5 times in this thread already getting basic facts wrong.


 

 

*charlie the unicorn voice* Yayyyyyyyy Javac YAYYYYYYYYYYYY

Seriously now,

While i'm interested to know wich basic facts i got wrong, besides the part about NPC towers and universal banks wich i don't have any issues *OWN*ing up to if i'm wrong....

 

Wouldn't you rather talk about your PHD mate? Let's start seeing some credentials, i'm sure alot of people would want to since you seem to fail high school level mathematics....  I never claimed to be a world renowned industry proffesional like you did, wich is why this is all the much sweeter.  

Ozmodan

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2/16/09 11:21:49 AM#230
Originally posted by javac

 


Originally posted by Ozmodan

 

You can supply all the rebuttals you want, but the only reason someone playing the beta at present would preorder is that A. they have never played a MMO before or B. they are masochists



 
Yeah that's why almost all beta testers are preordering or why most voted DF as their favourite and beta MMO right now.

 

The only reason not to play DF is if you're a WOW-loving carebear. If you like PVP and sandboxes, you will probably like DF.

 


 
Most of your statements on this thread have been so contrary to what all the beta leaks say.  The best one was where you were touting the AI.  Well the AI for the guards was so bad they had to put towers in instead.  If that is any indication how bad the coding for this game is then you can pretty much figure out how bad the rest of the game is.


 
Total and complete lying, as usual.

 

 

Guard towers have been in Darkfall for 12 months:
"As things stand right now, the guards are in various fixed positions like towers and posts and not roaming around."


You're just another clueless troll/WOW fanboi who can't read, and is cherrypicking all the worst things being reported without even bothering to fact-check them.

 

Whose the troll here?  ROFL!  sorry the towers were just added in the cities because the beta people were complaining the guards were useless.  Read the dumb boards yourself, it was all over them.  Geez how can you be so ignorant about a game you profess to know something about.  You knowledge about this game is kind of like your doctorate...Vaporware.

Fariic

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2/16/09 11:34:17 AM#231

mmorpg.com forums are just getting sad.  Page after page of posts on the interview and only like 3 people have commented on the article itself; the rest has been a bunch of useless bickering back and forth about nonsence, 

It's an FPS, one world, sandbox MMO geared toward a small audience.  People are hyping this game way beyond what the devs had hoped for, at least that's the impression I'm getting as they have to resort to staged releases in order to cope with the demand.  Not to mention the games being developed by an indy group.

The expectations from believers and non believers alike is just absurd.  The game will stand on it's own merits when it's released.  Anyone who thinks they know what will happen after release is talking out of thier backsides. 

You know nothing.
A lot of you are simply full of yourselves, and seem to think that your opinion holds more weight then the next guys.  I would really hate to have to work with a lot of you after seeing some of the behavior you demonstrate here I can only imagine what kind of selfish stuck up egotistical twats some of you could be in real like. 

It's a game for godsakes; one that hasn't even been released yet.  Get over it already.   The arguing isn't funny, it's sad.

yamren

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2/16/09 11:35:45 AM#232
Originally posted by javac
Originally posted by yamren

Just perused my favorite hard core bad ass guild board to see what they were saying about Dark and Fail. Oh boy are they really "happy" with it. Steaming pile is being complimentary to it over there. These are guys that brought fear into the hearts of many people back on the Sullon Zek server. Sounds like they got a guild invite and they are slaughtering this POS. 2 big complaints are either UI blows chunks or that combat mechanics make WAR look good.

Can't wait for the 25th, hell may have to call in sick that day

 

lol, are you seriously calling an Everquest/WOW guild "hardcore"?

 

dude even hardcore fanbois say WOW carebears will not like DF.


 

You know the legend in your own mind only is exceeded by your obvious ignorance when you post. If you are an actual PhD then I am the f'n president of Greece and Tacos is under my desk right now giving me all kinds of new information about his latest scam.

You don't apparently even know what the Sullon Zek server was and what game it was in. I never mentioned WoW and I know many WoW carebears BTW that can easily whip most of the "hardcore" PvP players in a twitch MMOFPS which is really all Dark and Fail is going to be.

Where do you think most of the hardcore UO freaks went? Hint, probably Azeroth or Norrath, it sure the F wasn't Dark and Fail.

javac

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2/16/09 12:10:38 PM#233
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Whose the troll here?  ROFL!  sorry the towers were just added in the cities because the beta people were complaining the guards were useless.  Read the dumb boards yourself, it was all over them.  Geez how can you be so ignorant about a game you profess to know something about.  You knowledge about this game is kind of like your doctorate...Vaporware.

i provided you a LINK even to a post by Tasos that is *12MONTHS OLD* where he says that they replaced roaming guards with guard towers. 

 

if you're talking only about adding more guard towers to the game, so what? are you going to make a fuss cause they added a couple more NPC vendors so people could sell stuff too?

 

ridiculous troll is ridiculous.

javac

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2/16/09 12:13:34 PM#234
Originally posted by yamren

You don't apparently even know what the Sullon Zek server was and what game it was in. I never mentioned WoW and I know many WoW carebears BTW that can easily whip most of the "hardcore" PvP players in a twitch MMOFPS which is really all Dark and Fail is going to be.

Where do you think most of the hardcore UO freaks went? Hint, probably Azeroth or Norrath, it sure the F wasn't Dark and Fail.

 

Sullon Zek == everquest "PVP" server. yes i can use google unlike most here.

 

i'm still laughing cause you called it hardcore.

 

ps: all the actual hardcore PVPers stayed in UO.

 

hardly surprising a bunch of ex-everquest carebears are complaining about Darkfall, lol.

javac

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2/16/09 12:20:30 PM#235
Originally posted by r0guy

i'm sure alot of people would want to since you seem to fail high school level mathematics....

only if coming second in your school in 4unit mathematics (ie: the highest) counts as a fail... plus 1st year uni maths, think i only got a B in that course... plus 2nd year physics and physical chemistry.

 

but hey if you actually finished high school you'd realise that maths stops being about actual numbers somewhere around year 11-12. hence why you take calculators into exams.

 

talking about my credentials is a bit pointless with the average intellectual and maturity level around here being just a touch above burger flipper level.

 

but how old are you again? let me guess - 16?

 

 

r0guy

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2/16/09 2:14:13 PM#236
Originally posted by javac
Originally posted by r0guy

i'm sure alot of people would want to since you seem to fail high school level mathematics....

only if coming second in your school in 4unit mathematics (ie: the highest) counts as a fail... plus 1st year uni maths, think i only got a B in that course... plus 2nd year physics and physical chemistry.

 Suuuuuuure.... Keep digging your own grave.

but hey if you actually finished high school you'd realise that maths stops being about actual numbers somewhere around year 11-12. hence why you take calculators into exams.

  So what led you to believe i havn't finished high school? That's pretty bold coming from someone who can't calculate percentages. Maybe if YOU finished high school you'd know that calculating percentages involves an "x", wich by your own definition could be seen as "not actual numbers" and super-duper complicated.

talking about my credentials is a bit pointless with the average intellectual and maturity level around here being just a touch above burger flipper level.

Ironically, alot of people have flipped burgers in order to pay for their NON-fantasy studies but i see where you're going at. If your comments can't hold their own weight, either show us some kind of proof of your experience or have the smarts to learn to not rely on lies to attempt to make your points seem valid. It's crappy, it's low and you're now scrounging the "bottom" of the excuse jar... Let alone the self-dignity "jar"...

but how old are you again? let me guess - 16?

 How cute. Heck let's say you're right, congratulations on uncovering my secret, how did you know Dr. Sherlock? Was it my spelling? Was it my wrong use of mathematics? Or was it the lack of Highly Scientific internet words for high-brow international conventions such as, "wtf", "pwn", "hardcore", "carebear" or "r0x0r"?

 

And finally, the definition of the day is....................................

*drumroll* ...........................
 

Ad hominem tadah!

 

 

DarkPony

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2/16/09 2:25:03 PM#237

*eats popcorn*

What was it again that they say about arguing on the internet?

Something with 'participating in the Paralympics' and 'even if you win you are still a ... something' ...

*ponders*

 

Tuche

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2/16/09 4:07:24 PM#238


Maybe if YOU finished high school you'd know that calculating percentages involves an "x", wich by your own definition could be seen as "not actual numbers" and super-duper complicated.

 
Does it ?
 
Then i think need to go back to school . . .
 
Because as far i know/learned,
 
% = percentage = "per hundred"

Just means a number divided by 100.

There is also "per mil", "per mille", "per thousand".

Which is a number divided by 1000.

And so go on . . . (per million, billion, trillion . . .)

i see no "x", or better said, variable in there . . .

ieu Xfire Miniprofile
CaesarsGhost

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2/16/09 4:53:31 PM#239
Originally posted by r0guy
Originally posted by javac
Originally posted by r0guy

i'm sure alot of people would want to since you seem to fail high school level mathematics....

only if coming second in your school in 4unit mathematics (ie: the highest) counts as a fail... plus 1st year uni maths, think i only got a B in that course... plus 2nd year physics and physical chemistry.

 Suuuuuuure.... Keep digging your own grave.

but hey if you actually finished high school you'd realise that maths stops being about actual numbers somewhere around year 11-12. hence why you take calculators into exams.

  So what led you to believe i havn't finished high school? That's pretty bold coming from someone who can't calculate percentages. Maybe if YOU finished high school you'd know that calculating percentages involves an "x", wich by your own definition could be seen as "not actual numbers" and super-duper complicated.

talking about my credentials is a bit pointless with the average intellectual and maturity level around here being just a touch above burger flipper level.

Ironically, alot of people have flipped burgers in order to pay for their NON-fantasy studies but i see where you're going at. If your comments can't hold their own weight, either show us some kind of proof of your experience or have the smarts to learn to not rely on lies to attempt to make your points seem valid. It's crappy, it's low and you're now scrounging the "bottom" of the excuse jar... Let alone the self-dignity "jar"...

but how old are you again? let me guess - 16?

 How cute. Heck let's say you're right, congratulations on uncovering my secret, how did you know Dr. Sherlock? Was it my spelling? Was it my wrong use of mathematics? Or was it the lack of Highly Scientific internet words for high-brow international conventions such as, "wtf", "pwn", "hardcore", "carebear" or "r0x0r"?

 

And finally, the definition of the day is....................................

*drumroll* ...........................
 

Ad hominem tadah!

 

that's a good one to give him... I was asking him earlier which falacy he was using by attacking the person instead of the topic.

- CaesarsGhost

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Dracus

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2/16/09 4:54:29 PM#240

Darkfall is sure an interesting case.  A very large amount of passionate hype over a niche-marketed game.  Will that be a recipe for success or diaster (not taking into consideration of other factors)?  Stay tuned as the drama unfolds.


As for this thread... 
Javac, what you type may be of truth, but your forum persona discredits you.  I'll go with CaesersGhost and the others with this round.

And that is why...

Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.

elate

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2/16/09 6:37:20 PM#241

Darkfall will find its market and everyone else will find another game. The heated words will disappear. It's not a big deal.

The interview was pretty typical for a mmorpg interview. Not much hard information. I still look forward to the game but the developers could've kept some friends if they did what so many developers do: kept a developer's journal with regular entries.

The level of smug, self-congratulatory bullshit in this thread is incredible. How can you people indulge your own vanity and arrogance so much without a hint of embarrassment.

This thread is mostly a debate about topic that no one has the true, up to date information for. And the debate consists of both sides of the argument trying to get the other party to admit they don't know the true, up to date information. None of you do, put it to bed.

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2/17/09 5:49:48 AM#242

MMORPG.com:

Can you give us any more details on pre-order plans?
Tasos:


There will be a limited number of pre-order copies of Darkfall offered, and a limited number of copies available at launch. We won’t try to support more users than we can guarantee a good gameplay experience for, and if demand is higher than supply, then we will move to a structured release. It’s also not a matter of simply throwing up a few more servers to meet increased demand.  

A mmorpg without players is a dead mmorpg. This is a nonsense.

D- 7 , NDA not lifted... not even a webpage for payment.

DFO : 100 %  fanboys' game. 

javac

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2/17/09 6:27:16 AM#243
Originally posted by elate

This thread is mostly a debate about topic that no one has the true, up to date information for. And the debate consists of both sides of the argument trying to get the other party to admit they don't know the true, up to date information. None of you do, put it to bed.

 

correction: i supplied at lest *some* evidence, which they chose simply not to believe without giving valid reasons why not. they are yet to supply a single link that backs up their original claims.


Greek_Matt

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Relaxating.

2/17/09 7:11:20 AM#244

 Heheh, I can just see it now...

 

MMORPG.com: So now it's April 2010 and many of our readers are still wondering whether Darkfall even exists. Care to comment?

Tasos Flambouras: Of course it exists! We kept to our promised February 25th 2009 release date as planned, the launch ran seamlessly and our current playerbase is having an amazing time in Agon. Actually, of those players recently polled 100% said unequivocally that Darkfall was the best MMORPG game they'd ever played ever.

MMORPG.com: And can you tell us roughly how many players are actually in the game at this time?

Tasos Flambouras: No, since we are a publicly listed company we are unable to divulge that information, just like all the other major AAA MMO titles. But it's lots and lots.

MMORPG.com: What about the rumours that in fact Darkfall only had a limited "Friends and Family" release, and that there are actually just a few hundred players currently?

Tasos Flambouras: Er... that's lies, all lies. It's true that because of limited server resources we were forced to make a 'staggered' release, but we are working towards inviting more players into our Full Public Release all the time. Keep checking your Inboxes!

MMORPG.com: Any chance of your lifting the NDA soon? Since the game's been 'released' for over a year now...

Tasos Flambouras: Not yet but soon, very soon. Very, very soon.

MMORPG.com: Any comment about all the Release Leak footage on Youtube? The world looks pretty empty in most of that footage, and the performance still looks very clunky for a supposed AAA title...

Tasos Flambouras: Never trust Release Leakers, they're the scum of the earth! And anyway that footage is from a much earlier Release Build than the one we're currently running. And the world isn't empty, it's just really really big. And a sandbox. You make your own fun. That's what sandbox is. Mobs and in-game content are for carebears!

javac

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2/17/09 7:31:31 AM#245
Originally posted by Greek_Matt

MMORPG.com: What about the rumours that in fact Darkfall only had a limited "Friends and Family" release, and that there are actually just a few hundred players currently?

rumours are usually started by clueless people to substitute for real facts, which people with a clue are able to find using a few simple searches.

 

eg: like how there are leaks showing 1600 *unique* posters in the welcome to beta thread on the beta forums, which mean there are *at least* 1600 people in beta. probably 1.5-2 times this many, possibly many more... depends on the percentage of people that are actually reading the forums and posting in the welcome thread.

rawgutts

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2/17/09 8:11:15 AM#246


Originally posted by Fariic
mmorpg.com forums are just getting sad.  Page after page of posts on the interview and only like 3 people have commented on the article itself; the rest has been a bunch of useless bickering back and forth about nonsence, 
It's an FPS, one world, sandbox MMO geared toward a small audience.  People are hyping this game way beyond what the devs had hoped for, at least that's the impression I'm getting as they have to resort to staged releases in order to cope with the demand.  Not to mention the games being developed by an indy group.
The expectations from believers and non believers alike is just absurd.  The game will stand on it's own merits when it's released.  Anyone who thinks they know what will happen after release is talking out of thier backsides. 
You know nothing.
A lot of you are simply full of yourselves, and seem to think that your opinion holds more weight then the next guys.  I would really hate to have to work with a lot of you after seeing some of the behavior you demonstrate here I can only imagine what kind of selfish stuck up egotistical twats some of you could be in real like. 
It's a game for godsakes; one that hasn't even been released yet.  Get over it already.   The arguing isn't funny, it's sad.


True, this is what happens to forums when they become total chaos and not modded. One of the main reasons I only visit every so often now.

On a side note, can someone give me a good reason to play this game if you die, you then start from scratch? What are my incentives to have fun? Is that fun?

KenTsurugi

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2/17/09 11:17:55 AM#247
Originally posted by javac
Originally posted by Greek_Matt

MMORPG.com: What about the rumours that in fact Darkfall only had a limited "Friends and Family" release, and that there are actually just a few hundred players currently?

rumours are usually started by clueless people to substitute for real facts, which people with a clue are able to find using a few simple searches.

 

eg: like how there are leaks showing 1600 *unique* posters in the welcome to beta thread on the beta forums, which mean there are *at least* 1600 people in beta. probably 1.5-2 times this many, possibly many more... depends on the percentage of people that are actually reading the forums and posting in the welcome thread.

The unequivocal truth that javac does not have a sense of humor is contained within this post...

javac

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2/17/09 1:50:40 PM#248
Originally posted by KenTsurugi
Originally posted by javac
Originally posted by Greek_Matt

MMORPG.com: What about the rumours that in fact Darkfall only had a limited "Friends and Family" release, and that there are actually just a few hundred players currently?

rumours are usually started by clueless people to substitute for real facts, which people with a clue are able to find using a few simple searches.

 

eg: like how there are leaks showing 1600 *unique* posters in the welcome to beta thread on the beta forums, which mean there are *at least* 1600 people in beta. probably 1.5-2 times this many, possibly many more... depends on the percentage of people that are actually reading the forums and posting in the welcome thread.

The unequivocal truth that javac does not have a sense of humor is contained within this post...

 

apparently humour is relative... like for instance i think organised religion is the greatest scam in history and anyone believing in it is a joke, but not everyone feels this way... does that mean they have no sense of humour too?

 

cmgangrel

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2/17/09 2:14:19 PM#249

[quote]Heheh, I can just see it now...

 

MMORPG.com: So now it's April 2010 and many of our readers are still wondering whether Darkfall even exists. Care to comment?[/quote]

And yes, you *did* miss the whole point

And not by a small amount. Hell right now i wouldnt trust you to hit the broadside of a barn right now.

javac

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2/17/09 2:55:17 PM#250

feel free to go ahead and explain why it's funny, bearing in mind that Darkfall's official release date has been delayed fewer times and for a shorter period than WOW's was.

 

It's not funny because it doesn't correlate with what's actually happened; it's just more clueless trolling.

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