ok so im not a fanboy or a troll. i got pulled into a fight on this forums today cause of some mean stuff that was said. im not here to trah talk anyone or nothing. i really have no opinion of this game, my question is this i

if the game has not been realeased why do you hate it so much? you never played it. i mean if you have a good reason like the devopers killed my parents then yeah burn the studio down for all i care. i just want to know why its so important to trash a game that you ahvnt played and you dont want to play? dont you have better things to do?

and im sorry if i came off as a prick

It's not the game itself that some people hate.

What people DO hate is misleading information, lies, and BS told to the fans for five years by the Associate producer named Tasos and then the fans being so blind that even after all that, they still act as if every word he says is gospel. The fans also acting as if this game is the second coming of Christ and attacking anyone who even has any skepticism or doubts as if they are the devil is what makes the fan base of this game very ugly indeed.

- Zaxx

Originally posted by zaxtor99

It's not the game itself that some people hate.

What people DO hate is misleading information, lies, and BS told to the fans for five years by the Associate producer named Tasos and then the fans being so blind that even after all that, they still act as if every word he says is gospel. The fans also acting as if this game is the second coming of Christ and attacking anyone who even has any skepticism or doubts as if they are the devil is what makes the fan base of this game very ugly indeed.

- Zaxx

ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do

again sorry if i came off like a prick

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Originally posted by Shanks123

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Originally posted by zaxtor99

It's not the game itself that some people hate.
What people DO hate is misleading information, lies, and BS told to the fans for five years by the Associate producer named Tasos and then the fans being so blind that even after all that, they still act as if every word he says is gospel. The fans also acting as if this game is the second coming of Christ and attacking anyone who even has any skepticism or doubts as if they are the devil is what makes the fan base of this game very ugly indeed.

- Zaxx

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ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do
 
again sorry if i came off like a prick

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I've answered your question.. you are simply trolling and flame baiting now. Sorry, not gonna bite. But what I will do is ask you a question in return... Why do you care enough about people who have skepticism why? Move on with your life as you say yourself, right?

- Zaxx

Originally posted by Shanks123

ok so im not a fanboy or a troll. i got pulled into a fight on this forums today cause of some mean stuff that was said. im not here to trah talk anyone or nothing. i really have no opinion of this game, my question is this i

if the game has not been realeased why do you hate it so much? you never played it. i mean if you have a good reason like the devopers killed my parents then yeah burn the studio down for all i care. i just want to know why its so important to trash a game that you ahvnt played and you dont want to play? dont you have better things to do?

 

and im sorry if i came off as a prick

I agree. Also, why talk about politics? I mean you have never met the guys who run, and you probably don't have any plans to meet them? /sarcasm. 

There are quite a few answers (that come to my mind as to why I talk about games I haven't played, whether I like the sound of em or not).

1) To pass time. I visit the boards from time to time and open random threads in the "recent posts" and view the entry post, and then a couple of the replys and if I feel like I have an opinion (whether its good or bad) I decide to post it. If you don't like that I post something negative using the information that I have collected then too bad for you, cause its just an opinion, and you most likely won't change it without hard evidence and good logic. (Saying things like "troll" or "oh my god stop talking" dont constitute as solid arguments)

2) Because like it or not, this game is going to make an impact. If it's good, then it will be a nice plus for indie developers as well as sandbox game titles. However, if its a second Dark & Light it may cause the big financial backers to stop backing small indie developers, as well as lean away from sandbox game. Games like Mortal online might end up losing funding, as well as any future games that might turn out well.
Am I saying that Darkfall doing badly WILL have those effects? no, but is it POSSIBLE? yes.

3) Because sometimes when doing 1(passing time) I see completely idiotic posts by fanbois, and I mean really unlogical statements that make you think "are they cult members?", to which I find I have a DUTY to post back and correct their stupidity. By stupidity do I mean any time someone says Darkfall will be a success? no (I happen to think that darkfall will do all right, and hope to play it some day, when it comes out), I am talking about people who seam to think that the game can do the impossible, that it can bring the second coming of jesus, and to which I must play the antichrist.

Those are just a couple reason that I some times post negatively about Darkfall.

Originally posted by zaxtor99

 

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Originally posted by Shanks123

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Originally posted by zaxtor99

 

It's not the game itself that some people hate.
What people DO hate is misleading information, lies, and BS told to the fans for five years by the Associate producer named Tasos and then the fans being so blind that even after all that, they still act as if every word he says is gospel. The fans also acting as if this game is the second coming of Christ and attacking anyone who even has any skepticism or doubts as if they are the devil is what makes the fan base of this game very ugly indeed.

- Zaxx

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ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do
 
again sorry if i came off like a prick

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I've answered your question.. you are simply trolling and flame baiting now. Sorry, not gonna bite. But what I will do is ask you a question in return... Why do you care enough about people who have skepticism why? Move on with your life as you say yourself, right?

- Zaxx

point me out why im a troll? all i asked is why do you care about what other people think about a game you hate. and im on a forums about the game in question so im not a troll. and i would move on but my question hasnt been answered, and its not the same anyway. iv wasted maybe 3 hours on this forums trying to figure out what everyones prolblem was. how long have you wasted naysaying this game? a game you dont even want to play.

my question still stands why does everyone care if the fanboys of this game listen to the devs. they are humans they can believe whatever they want

Originally posted by Shanks123

Originally posted by zaxtor99

It's not the game itself that some people hate.

What people DO hate is misleading information, lies, and BS told to the fans for five years by the Associate producer named Tasos and then the fans being so blind that even after all that, they still act as if every word he says is gospel. The fans also acting as if this game is the second coming of Christ and attacking anyone who even has any skepticism or doubts as if they are the devil is what makes the fan base of this game very ugly indeed.

- Zaxx

 

ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do

 

again sorry if i came off like a prick

Why do you care?

Originally posted by methosk

Originally posted by Shanks123

ok so im not a fanboy or a troll. i got pulled into a fight on this forums today cause of some mean stuff that was said. im not here to trah talk anyone or nothing. i really have no opinion of this game, my question is this i

if the game has not been realeased why do you hate it so much? you never played it. i mean if you have a good reason like the devopers killed my parents then yeah burn the studio down for all i care. i just want to know why its so important to trash a game that you ahvnt played and you dont want to play? dont you have better things to do?

 

and im sorry if i came off as a prick

I agree. Also, why talk about politics? I mean you have never met the guys who run, and you probably don't have any plans to meet them? /sarcasm. 

There are quite a few answers (that come to my mind as to why I talk about games I haven't played, whether I like the sound of em or not).

1) To pass time. I visit the boards from time to time and open random threads in the "recent posts" and view the entry post, and then a couple of the replys and if I feel like I have an opinion (whether its good or bad) I decide to post it. If you don't like that I post something negative using the information that I have collected then too bad for you, cause its just an opinion, and you most likely won't change it without hard evidence and good logic. (Saying things like "troll" or "oh my god stop talking" dont constitute as solid arguments)

2) Because like it or not, this game is going to make an impact. If it's good, then it will be a nice plus for indie developers as well as sandbox game titles. However, if its a second Dark & Light it may cause the big financial backers to stop backing small indie developers, as well as lean away from sandbox game. Games like Mortal online might end up losing funding, as well as any future games that might turn out well.
Am I saying that Darkfall doing badly WILL have those effects? no, but is it POSSIBLE? yes.

3) Because sometimes when doing 1(passing time) I see completely idiotic posts by fanbois, and I mean really unlogical statements that make you think "are they cult members?", to which I find I have a DUTY to post back and correct their stupidity. By stupidity do I mean any time someone says Darkfall will be a success? no (I happen to think that darkfall will do all right, and hope to play it some day, when it comes out), I am talking about people who seam to think that the game can do the impossible, that it can bring the second coming of jesus, and to which I must play the antichrist.

Those are just a couple reason that I some times post negatively about Darkfall.

lol ill give you the first one but if you return to the same forums day after day to trah talk it thats what i dont get lol. the 2nd one i mean yeah that could very well be true but what is the point of trashtalking the game. its not going to do anything. and the 3rd one i ignore stupid peole but if you want to knock them lowere then they already are be my guest.

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by Shanks123

Originally posted by zaxtor99

It's not the game itself that some people hate.

What people DO hate is misleading information, lies, and BS told to the fans for five years by the Associate producer named Tasos and then the fans being so blind that even after all that, they still act as if every word he says is gospel. The fans also acting as if this game is the second coming of Christ and attacking anyone who even has any skepticism or doubts as if they are the devil is what makes the fan base of this game very ugly indeed.

- Zaxx

 

ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do

 

again sorry if i came off like a prick

 

Why do you care?

because im curious what would drive people to do such a thing. havent you ever been curious before?

Originally posted by Shanks123

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by Shanks123

Originally posted by zaxtor99

It's not the game itself that some people hate.

What people DO hate is misleading information, lies, and BS told to the fans for five years by the Associate producer named Tasos and then the fans being so blind that even after all that, they still act as if every word he says is gospel. The fans also acting as if this game is the second coming of Christ and attacking anyone who even has any skepticism or doubts as if they are the devil is what makes the fan base of this game very ugly indeed.

- Zaxx

 

ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do

 

again sorry if i came off like a prick

 

Why do you care?

because im curious what would drive people to do such a thing. havent you ever been curious before?

Or are you trolling this forum? Anyway, use the search, there are other threads asking the same question, from curious people as you..

Originally posted by Shanks123

Originally posted by zaxtor99

 

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Originally posted by Shanks123

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Originally posted by zaxtor99

 

It's not the game itself that some people hate.
What people DO hate is misleading information, lies, and BS told to the fans for five years by the Associate producer named Tasos and then the fans being so blind that even after all that, they still act as if every word he says is gospel. The fans also acting as if this game is the second coming of Christ and attacking anyone who even has any skepticism or doubts as if they are the devil is what makes the fan base of this game very ugly indeed.

- Zaxx

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ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do
 
again sorry if i came off like a prick

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I've answered your question.. you are simply trolling and flame baiting now. Sorry, not gonna bite. But what I will do is ask you a question in return... Why do you care enough about people who have skepticism why? Move on with your life as you say yourself, right?

- Zaxx

point me out why im a troll? all i asked is why do you care about what other people think about a game you hate. and im on a forums about the game in question so im not a troll. and i would move on but my question hasnt been answered, and its not the same anyway. iv wasted maybe 3 hours on this forums trying to figure out what everyones prolblem was. how long have you wasted naysaying this game? a game you dont even want to play.

my question still stands why does everyone care if the fanboys of this game listen to the devs. they are humans they can believe whatever they want

Sorry, but this OP Fails Hard, read a little back ground before you ask people why their angry.

WTH do you expect, when this game was announced everyone was excited as hell for it,but the game designers lied, and made up so much bs, almost everyone pissed, except the die hard fanboys who think this is normal

Here ya go OP Shanks123... Maybe this link will offer you the insight you seek. However I still think you are doing nothing more then trying to flame bait and start yet another war thread. You've already gotten answers here, but you just keep asking "why?" as if the lack of flames hasn't satisfied you.

Read this very similar thread: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/222639/Curious-about-haters.html

-  Zaxx

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by Shanks123

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by Shanks123

Originally posted by zaxtor99

It's not the game itself that some people hate.

What people DO hate is misleading information, lies, and BS told to the fans for five years by the Associate producer named Tasos and then the fans being so blind that even after all that, they still act as if every word he says is gospel. The fans also acting as if this game is the second coming of Christ and attacking anyone who even has any skepticism or doubts as if they are the devil is what makes the fan base of this game very ugly indeed.

- Zaxx

 

ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do

 

again sorry if i came off like a prick

 

Why do you care?

because im curious what would drive people to do such a thing. havent you ever been curious before?

Or are you trolling this forum? Anyway, use the search, there are other threads asking the same question, from curious people as you..

i still dont see how im trolling. your trolling by saying im trolling. do people even know the real definition of troll anymore i mean come on.

Originally posted by Shanks123

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by Shanks123

Originally posted by altairzq

Originally posted by Shanks123

Originally posted by zaxtor99

It's not the game itself that some people hate.

What people DO hate is misleading information, lies, and BS told to the fans for five years by the Associate producer named Tasos and then the fans being so blind that even after all that, they still act as if every word he says is gospel. The fans also acting as if this game is the second coming of Christ and attacking anyone who even has any skepticism or doubts as if they are the devil is what makes the fan base of this game very ugly indeed.

- Zaxx

 

ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do

 

again sorry if i came off like a prick

 

Why do you care?

because im curious what would drive people to do such a thing. havent you ever been curious before?

Or are you trolling this forum? Anyway, use the search, there are other threads asking the same question, from curious people as you..

 

i still dont see how im trolling. your trolling by saying im trolling. do people even know the real definition of troll anymore i mean come on.

I'll tell you how you're trolling--this topic has absolutely nothing to do with Darkfall.

Originally posted by Shanks123

point me out why im a troll? all i asked is why do you care about what other people think about a game you hate. and im on a forums about the game in question so im not a troll. and i would move on but my question hasnt been answered, and its not the same anyway. iv wasted maybe 3 hours on this forums trying to figure out what everyones prolblem was. how long have you wasted naysaying this game? a game you dont even want to play.

my question still stands why does everyone care if the fanboys of this game listen to the devs. they are humans they can believe whatever they want

You are baiting but that is ok I'll play along.  Why does this game get so much hate.  Well it's a combination of a lot of different things.

1. People feel they have been lied to and are still being lied to.  Being lied to usually pissed people off.  I know me and my guild signed up for guild beta in 2003 which was right around the corner.  We gave up and moved on.

2. The DF fanbois are pretty obnoxious.  Not saying (insert game here)'s fanbois aren't obnoxious too but the DF ones have taken it to a whole new level.

3. Using your church analogy.  If said religious people were constantly at your door step scream the second coming is upon us.  You must follow us blindly or you are a complete dumb ass.  Then yes you should be out at their door step on Sunday in return.

4. The development team has not been very forth coming with information and lets be honest some of the interviews they have given they sound like complete ego maniacs.

5. And of course some people just like to hate on anything and everything.

Originally posted by Itachi54

Originally posted by Shanks123

Originally posted by zaxtor99

 

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Originally posted by Shanks123

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Originally posted by zaxtor99

 

It's not the game itself that some people hate.
What people DO hate is misleading information, lies, and BS told to the fans for five years by the Associate producer named Tasos and then the fans being so blind that even after all that, they still act as if every word he says is gospel. The fans also acting as if this game is the second coming of Christ and attacking anyone who even has any skepticism or doubts as if they are the devil is what makes the fan base of this game very ugly indeed.

- Zaxx

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ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do
 
again sorry if i came off like a prick

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I've answered your question.. you are simply trolling and flame baiting now. Sorry, not gonna bite. But what I will do is ask you a question in return... Why do you care enough about people who have skepticism why? Move on with your life as you say yourself, right?

- Zaxx

point me out why im a troll? all i asked is why do you care about what other people think about a game you hate. and im on a forums about the game in question so im not a troll. and i would move on but my question hasnt been answered, and its not the same anyway. iv wasted maybe 3 hours on this forums trying to figure out what everyones prolblem was. how long have you wasted naysaying this game? a game you dont even want to play.

my question still stands why does everyone care if the fanboys of this game listen to the devs. they are humans they can believe whatever they want

Sorry, but this OP Fails Hard, read a little back ground before you ask people why their angry.

WTH do you expect, when this game was announced everyone was excited as hell for it,but the game designers lied, and made up so much bs, almost everyone pissed, except the die hard fanboys who think this is normal

im not asking why your angry iv established that. you were lied to i get it i really do. what i dont get is why you people are dwelling on it like its the first time you were lied to? and here since i know someone is going to ask why are dwelling on this. cause its not the same im trying to get a legit answer out of one of you which i seem not to be able to do. you guys are dwelling on being lied to. grow up

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Originally posted by Shanks123

im not asking why your angry iv established that. you were lied to i get it i really do. what i dont get is why you people are dwelling on it like its the first time you were lied to? and here since i know someone is going to ask why are dwelling on this. cause its not the same im trying to get a legit answer out of one of you which i seem not to be able to do. you guys are dwelling on being lied to. grow up

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Bigtime /FAIL thread.

This guy is like a pesky lil' brother that sees obvious frustration and then begins to pick at the wounds with stupid questions. He doesn't give a rats ass "why" people that doubt Darkfall care. He is just trying to poke and prod and get a response.

Obvious flame-baiting and trolling. Nothing more.
 

Originally posted by ziembee

 

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Originally posted by Shanks123

 

im not asking why your angry iv established that. you were lied to i get it i really do. what i dont get is why you people are dwelling on it like its the first time you were lied to? and here since i know someone is going to ask why are dwelling on this. cause its not the same im trying to get a legit answer out of one of you which i seem not to be able to do. you guys are dwelling on being lied to. grow up

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Bigtime /FAIL thread.

This guy is like a pesky lil' brother that sees obvious frustration and then begins to pick at the wounds with stupid questions. He doesn't give a rats ass "why" people that doubt Darkfall care. He is just trying to poke and prod and get a response.

Obvious flame-baiting and trolling. Nothing more.
 

not everyone is as deperate for attention as you guys. iv got my answer and no one even actually answered. im done here. im sorry for wasting my time here. apparently everyone here thinks everyone else is trying to trool and bait each other. grow up people

peace

Originally posted by Shanks123

Originally posted by ziembee

 

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Originally posted by Shanks123

 

im not asking why your angry iv established that. you were lied to i get it i really do. what i dont get is why you people are dwelling on it like its the first time you were lied to? and here since i know someone is going to ask why are dwelling on this. cause its not the same im trying to get a legit answer out of one of you which i seem not to be able to do. you guys are dwelling on being lied to. grow up

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Bigtime /FAIL thread.

This guy is like a pesky lil' brother that sees obvious frustration and then begins to pick at the wounds with stupid questions. He doesn't give a rats ass "why" people that doubt Darkfall care. He is just trying to poke and prod and get a response.

Obvious flame-baiting and trolling. Nothing more.
 

not everyone is as deperate for attention as you guys. iv got my answer and no one even actually answered. im done here. im sorry for wasting my time here. apparently everyone here thinks everyone else is trying to trool and bait each other. grow up people

 

 

peace

ROTF.  Nice try.  What you mean is that you've obviously been "BUSTED" in what you tried to pull off as innocent, caring, questions.  lol.  Try proding the fanboys, they'll bite with much more the response you were looking for.

       I dont really care one way or the other about Darkfall but I got tired of listening to people on other forums here when they would put Darkfall this and Darkfall that in every single post........If we would ask a question about EQ2, the faboys would respond "oh you need to play Darkfall its going to be the greatest game ever!!!" After reading that about 1000 times I got tired of it and looked into this game that is supposed to be so great......All I can say is thank goodness for youtube because I could see first hand what a bunch of garbage this game is........ If the game had legitimate avenues for selling and marketing its game we'd also respect it more but all this hiding and secracy just screams major scam......Even if the game had been all that these people were saying I wouldnt give a company like that a dime.