The title says it all....
70% of DF Beta Testers feel game isn’t ready - Needs to be delayed.

You can guess where I got this information from..... and a 10 second Google search should confirm my post.
 

I was the biggest DF fanboi of them all..... back in 2005 I got my whole L2 clan signed up on the forums waiting for beta that was promised to be SOOON.
 

Most of the DEV/website promised content isn’t in this “BETA”. Either its in and disabled and they aren’t planning on testing it or it simply doesn’t exist.
Most of the DEV/Website promised skills arent in this “BETA” either they are in and disabled and not planning on being tested or they simply don’t exist.

On and On...

When are they planning on testing or developing all this stuff? Its been 8 years and it looks like all they did in that time was World-Build.

From what I have seen and the info from the Noob Comic stating that there are only about 1100 testers, Darkfall seems to be in some sort of Alpha-Beta testing stage and gearing up to do a PAID BETA

To say I am disappointed would be an understatement
 

100% of the mmo's iv played since (and including) swg should have stayed in development for longer.

this post should die in a fire....

link?

and yet 90% of testers have also said they would pre-order.

conclusion: it's an awesome game that still has a number of rough edges. just like every MMO ever released?
 

btw, almost all content has been enabled for some weeks now... a lot of it is on the web, you should try looking for it?

78.4% of statisitcs are made up figures anyway.

Someone link this or it didn't hapen.

Originally posted by trozyxxx

100% of the mmo's iv played since (and including) swg should have stayed in development for longer.

I played UO and SWG from day 1 and I would say that in both games 80% of the promised content was in them at launch…. even if it was buggy.. Rememebr when you could walk on a roof and fall through inside in UO?????

Compare that to about 45% of DF at the moment. .. As I have said.. maybe its in there and disabled and they just aren’t planning on having it tested.. but that is just a fanbi fantasy world
 

I said it when I saw the first pathc notes after the "open" beta. It looked like they were in the middle of beta and not about to release. Of course fanbois laughed at my oppinion. Well, you got it now. I expect a decent game by december 2009. Probably / hopefully they will do in 1 year what they haven't done in 8.

Originally posted by javac

link?

 

and yet 90% of testers have also said they would pre-order.

conclusion: it's an awesome game that still has a number of rough edges. just like every MMO ever released?
 

btw, almost all content has been enabled for some weeks now... a lot of it is on the web, you should try looking for it?

 

 

 

90% of the 30 people that took that poll?

I did about a 2 minute search and did not find this poll.

Really?

I know for a fact , Boats haven’t been tested, no one on the server has even seen siege gear, player housing hasnt been enabled, NPC hireling, and pets are out, race specific bonuses aren’t in yet. There are only like 5 types of armor in the game right now……

Should I continue?

 

Originally posted by Kyleran

I did about a 2 minute search and did not find this poll.

Try something along the lines of darkfall + beta + leak + forum

or PM and I will link you

Originally posted by altairzq

I expect a decent game by december 2009.

The game is already well past decent right *now*. More like somewhere between awesome and best MMO ever.

is it perfect? of course not.

that said, it's less buggy and more stable than most of the recent big name MMO releases in the past 12 months.

Originally posted by EnolaGay

Really?

 

I know for a fact , Boats haven’t been tested, no one on the server has even seen siege gear, player housing hasnt been enabled, NPC hireling, and pets are out, race specific bonuses aren’t in yet. There are only like 5 types of armor in the game right now……

Should I continue?

 

yes please do. note: you said *most* features aren't in, which is a ludicrous statement. only a few things *aren't* enabled, like ranked magic staves, special/named mob spawns,  racial specials.

boats have not been craftable cause noone has managed to build a harbour in their city yet.

everything else has been enabled and is even leaked on the web.

Originally posted by EnolaGay

The title says it all....
70% of DF Beta Testers feel game isn’t ready - Needs to be delayed.

You can guess where I got this information from..... and a 10 second Google search should confirm my post.
 

I was the biggest DF fanboi of them all..... back in 2005 I got my whole L2 clan signed up on the forums waiting for beta that was promised to be SOOON.
 

Most of the DEV/website promised content isn’t in this “BETA”. Either its in and disabled and they aren’t planning on testing it or it simply doesn’t exist.
Most of the DEV/Website promised skills arent in this “BETA” either they are in and disabled and not planning on being tested or they simply don’t exist.

On and On...

When are they planning on testing or developing all this stuff? Its been 8 years and it looks like all they did in that time was World-Build.

From what I have seen and the info from the Noob Comic stating that there are only about 1100 testers, Darkfall seems to be in some sort of Alpha-Beta testing stage and gearing up to do a PAID BETA

To say I am disappointed would be an understatement
 

Please show some proof of this statement because I am not finding anything that points to what you said.

Originally posted by Martie

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by altairzq

I expect a decent game by december 2009.

 

The game is already well past decent right *now*. More like somewhere between awesome and best MMO ever.

 

is it perfect? of course not.

 

that said, it's less buggy and more stable than most of the recent big name MMO releases in the past 12 months.

 

 

 

Ok sure thing Jim, whatever you say.

not saying everyone will like it - they won't.

if you a) like PVP and b) like sandbox games and c) are a competitive/decent gamer, chances are you'll love DF.

Originally posted by Locklain

78.4% of statisitcs are made up figures anyway.

81.2% of people could tell you that.

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by EnolaGay

Really?

 

I know for a fact , Boats haven’t been tested, no one on the server has even seen siege gear, player housing hasnt been enabled, NPC hireling, and pets are out, race specific bonuses aren’t in yet. There are only like 5 types of armor in the game right now……

Should I continue?

 

 

yes please do. note: you said *most* features aren't in, which is a ludicrous statement. only a few things *aren't* enabled, like ranked magic staves, special/named mob spawns,  racial specials.

 

boats have not been craftable cause noone has managed to build a harbour in their city yet.

 

everything else has been enabled and is even leaked on the web.

 

Actually there have been 2 accounts of guilds crafting boats, and  2 boats have been made in beta. 

Originally posted by EnolaGay

The title says it all....
70% of DF Beta Testers feel game isn’t ready - Needs to be delayed.

You can guess where I got this information from..... and a 10 second Google search should confirm my post.
 

I was the biggest DF fanboi of them all..... back in 2005 I got my whole L2 clan signed up on the forums waiting for beta that was promised to be SOOON.
 

Most of the DEV/website promised content isn’t in this “BETA”. Either its in and disabled and they aren’t planning on testing it or it simply doesn’t exist.
Most of the DEV/Website promised skills arent in this “BETA” either they are in and disabled and not planning on being tested or they simply don’t exist.

On and On...

When are they planning on testing or developing all this stuff? Its been 8 years and it looks like all they did in that time was World-Build.

From what I have seen and the info from the Noob Comic stating that there are only about 1100 testers, Darkfall seems to be in some sort of Alpha-Beta testing stage and gearing up to do a PAID BETA

To say I am disappointed would be an understatement
 

If you are not a beta tester, you wont understand. The testers are loving the game, its more than just a world. However, many see these rabid haters who have no clue what they are talking about via forums. Its not hard to say "delay the game until we test all the features and squash the bugs." Essentially OP, you are turning a neutral poll into a means to be negative. This is a big undertaking by a small company, this is their first mmorpg. Did you know team fortress 2 was in development since 1998? Prey took over 10 years to develop? Games like WoW were in production long before it was announced. Just saying you cannot judge a game by how long it takes to ship what they feel is a finished product. Most mainstream games with bigger budgets and bigger teams take anywhere from 4-6 years to develop a mmorpg. The bigger and more complicated the game, the more it cost, the more time is needed. Games are better when they are delayed, rather than released early, which happens way too often with these big publishers.

We can all agree it wasnt very smart of Aventurine to give a release date to begin with, like Blizzard they should keep it in TBA status. The haters calling it vaporware didnt help, and probably influenced Aventurine to give a release date when they shouldnt have. Either way, they have learned not to bother with the average gamer, because as many of you have shown them, you are not reasonable. People over the internet are just retards at times. 

Anyways, just dont judge the game till its released. Dont judge it because of its development time, that doesnt matter, especially when you look at the facts. Dont judge it because a developer is trying to do PR and did a bad job at it. Judge the game as a game for a game when its released.

Originally posted by Kyleran

I did about a 2 minute search and did not find this poll.

You would not be able to find this unless you were in the beta, unless it has been leaked to the leaker sites.

Originally posted by noobist

Originally posted by EnolaGay

The title says it all....
70% of DF Beta Testers feel game isn’t ready - Needs to be delayed.

You can guess where I got this information from..... and a 10 second Google search should confirm my post.
 

I was the biggest DF fanboi of them all..... back in 2005 I got my whole L2 clan signed up on the forums waiting for beta that was promised to be SOOON.
 

Most of the DEV/website promised content isn’t in this “BETA”. Either its in and disabled and they aren’t planning on testing it or it simply doesn’t exist.
Most of the DEV/Website promised skills arent in this “BETA” either they are in and disabled and not planning on being tested or they simply don’t exist.

On and On...

When are they planning on testing or developing all this stuff? Its been 8 years and it looks like all they did in that time was World-Build.

From what I have seen and the info from the Noob Comic stating that there are only about 1100 testers, Darkfall seems to be in some sort of Alpha-Beta testing stage and gearing up to do a PAID BETA

To say I am disappointed would be an understatement
 

 

Please show some proof of this statement because I am not finding anything that points to what you said.

The leak of this internal Poll came from the exact same website that leaked the Manifesto thread......As well as the originating website for most of the leaked videos on youtube........  search.. search...

I dont know the policy of posting beta leak websites here.....

If the title said it all, why did you write 3 more paragraphs in the OP?

Still, I expect that many testers would have this game delayed. Fact is, WOW has changed the game in MMO industry. We now expect a huge level of polish and content before release that just wasnt required 3-4 yrs ago

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by altairzq

I expect a decent game by december 2009.

 

The game is already well past decent right *now*. More like somewhere between awesome and best MMO ever.

 

is it perfect? of course not.

 

that said, it's less buggy and more stable than most of the recent big name MMO releases in the past 12 months.

 

 

That being said, DF also has far less people in beta than any other commercial MMO release.  This makes it far less taxing on the servers which would also reduce server lag.  Wait until the game actually releases and if all of their applied testers try to play.  Then we will see how "less buggy and stable" it will be.

Originally posted by Locklain

Originally posted by javac

Originally posted by altairzq

I expect a decent game by december 2009.

 

The game is already well past decent right *now*. More like somewhere between awesome and best MMO ever.

 

is it perfect? of course not.

 

that said, it's less buggy and more stable than most of the recent big name MMO releases in the past 12 months.

 

 

That being said, DF also has far less people in beta than any other commercial MMO release.  This makes it far less taxing on the servers which would also reduce server lag.  Wait until the game actually releases and if all of their applied testers try to play.  Then we will see how "less buggy and stable" it will be.

True.

I think the poll shows that 70% of the beta population know what they are talking about.

Originally posted by EnolaGay

 

From what I have seen and the info from the Noob Comic stating that there are only about 1100 testers, Darkfall seems to be in some sort of Alpha-Beta testing stage and gearing up to do a PAID BETA

 

You guys are debating a post from someone who gets his info from Noob comic. I rest my case.