Originally posted by ianonmmorpg

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by ianonmmorpg

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I assume this is something the community, or at least Corps and Alliances should have a say in, the DEVs should be asking what 'legislation' needs to be introduced to make Alliances 'firmer', if that's what the Alliances want. And to be fair any organisation witnessing the fall of BOB would get their lawyers in start changing rules.

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 it's happened before though, just not to the band of brothers (otherwise known as the band of developers).  it was always working as intended before; perhaps it takes something like this happening to the dev buddies to get alliances re-looked at.

 again, who knows.

 

Yeah, a great many things happen more than once before something is done about it, and I'm sure that when they finaly get done 'friends' in high places would be involved. But does it need fixing? Not an issue of should it of been fixed before latest event 'cos its done now, should it be fixed at all?

there shouldn't be any type of rollback for former-bob.

however, the alliance system itself DOES need looking into.  as others have said -- a character with roles, must have the roles stripped and then there is still a 24 hour waiting period before said character can be expunged from the corp.  but, a single character is capable of dissolving an alliance instantly?

i mean, it's great that they have sovereignty now. but again, sov 4 can be lost THAT fast?  as could be seen by posts i'd made regarding bob and their ops (which metalhead QQ'd about, and even after supposedly blocking me, whined for someone to delete), there is a ton  of coordination, logisticis, manpower/hours behind a lot of these operations.  to think that, during the middle of one of these operations, an alliance could simply be torn apart... that's pretty crazy.

so yeah, the alliance system needs looking into.

Even though BOB wasnt the nicest corp and they probably did every exploit that ever existed in EVE. I'm pretty sad to see them go.

And seeing them go like that is just sad, Goons are a mix of the worst kind of people you can find on the internets, and its not surprising that they had to act in such a cowardly way in order to take bob down. That the war is as much inside the game as it is composed of forum attacks, account/ forums hacking and of stuff like jsut what happened is what prevents me from getting involved in this game which is the only "true" mmo out there.

Originally posted by beaverz

Even though BOB wasnt the nicest corp and they probably did every exploit that ever existed in EVE. I'm pretty sad to see them go.

And seeing them go like that is just sad, Goons are a mix of the worst kind of people you can find on the internets, and its not surprising that they had to act in such a cowardly way in order to take bob down. That the war is as much inside the game as it is composed of forum attacks, account/ forums hacking and of stuff like jsut what happened is what prevents me from getting involved in this game which is the only "true" mmo out there.

i'd feel bad for bob, if bob hadn't done this same crap (and lots of other things) to other alliances.  so, everything you're saying about the people involved in doing this to BOB... you can also say about the people in BOB.

like i've said -- karma is a bitch.  there's pretty much nothing someone could do to bob (or the new bob) that THEY didn't already do to others in the past.  yeah, they (bob) are that dirty.

Originally posted by beaverz

Even though BOB wasnt the nicest corp and they probably did every exploit that ever existed in EVE. I'm pretty sad to see them go.

And seeing them go like that is just sad, Goons are a mix of the worst kind of people you can find on the internets, and its not surprising that they had to act in such a cowardly way in order to take bob down. That the war is as much inside the game as it is composed of forum attacks, account/ forums hacking and of stuff like jsut what happened is what prevents me from getting involved in this game which is the only "true" mmo out there.

BoB isn't gone, they reformed into Kenzoku, the name BoB is gone yes, but it will live on in history.

I am glad they reformed so quickly and regained control, even to they have to rebuild to sov 4

BoB got disbanded by a flaw in the alliance mechanics : a director from an executor corp can NOT disband an alliance, only the CEO can do that, however a director CAN kick all corps out until no corps are left in the alliance and the alliance disbands nonetheless. It is clear that this is a flaw and not intended, but it has also been used in the past, so making an exception now, for BoB, and do a roll back, would not be fair either.

BoB was able to quickly regain control by another flaw in the system, reclaiming towers and getting sov directly after downtime, while you normally need 7 days for a new tower ( correct me if I am wrong )

All in all, Kenzoku ( BoB ) came out alive ( for now ), and the men on the street are starting to look at Kenzoku as the underdog, now that basically all Alliances are banding together against BoB ( Northern Coalition + Southern Coalition ), with the only exception of AAA. ( again correct me if I am wrong )

So once I join the 0.0 game, I won't join the bandwagon of the North and South, cause they are too strong and if they win, 0.0 will be controlled by 1 powerblock.

Originally posted by CyberWiz

Originally posted by beaverz

Even though BOB wasnt the nicest corp and they probably did every exploit that ever existed in EVE. I'm pretty sad to see them go.

And seeing them go like that is just sad, Goons are a mix of the worst kind of people you can find on the internets, and its not surprising that they had to act in such a cowardly way in order to take bob down. That the war is as much inside the game as it is composed of forum attacks, account/ forums hacking and of stuff like jsut what happened is what prevents me from getting involved in this game which is the only "true" mmo out there.

 

BoB isn't gone, they reformed into Kenzoku, the name BoB is gone yes, but it will live on in history.

I am glad they reformed so quickly and regained control, even to they have to rebuild to sov 4

BoB got disbanded by a flaw in the alliance mechanics : a director from an executor corp can NOT disband an alliance, only the CEO can do that, however a director CAN kick all corps out until no corps are left in the alliance and the alliance disbands nonetheless. It is clear that this is a flaw and not intended, but it has also been used in the past, so making an exception now, for BoB, and do a roll back, would not be fair either.

BoB was able to quickly regain control by another flaw in the system, reclaiming towers and getting sov directly after downtime, while you normally need 7 days for a new tower ( correct me if I am wrong )

All in all, Kenzoku ( BoB ) came out alive ( for now ), and the men on the street are starting to look at Kenzoku as the underdog, now that basically all Alliances are banding together against BoB ( Northern Coalition + Southern Coalition ), with the only exception of AAA. ( again correct me if I am wrong )

So once I join the 0.0 game, I won't join the bandwagon of the North and South, cause they are too strong and if they win, 0.0 will be controlled by 1 powerblock.

 

honestly, i don't think you have to worry about that.  IF dragonballz gets decimated; then, the other groups will just fall to fighting each other.  or maybe the north will move back to their happy "let's fight for fun'" nap with each other; but the south will surely go to trying to destroy each other.

Ya know if i were in the GoonSquad, Swarn or however you call these folks I just might be looking over my shoulder alot wondering what ill may befall us from the Dev's and left over Bobber's no matter what there name is now.

Bob still pretty much alive and kicking.. and beating up goons as always.

Just using Kenzoku instead of BOB now.. tbh think Kenzoku even better.

Big thumbs up to Molle and the guys, and lovely girls :)

Keep on the good work kicking the scum out of Eve space ! For the light yay!

Proof? Proof?

Check this for instance.. was just the killboard of yest.. its the same pretty much daily. Bob bbqing goons :)

img530.imageshack.us/img530/4382/lolgoonscrapqy2.jpg

Or the link to the Killboard...

www.killboard.net/

Originally posted by EduardoASG

Bob still pretty much alive and kicking.. and beating up goons as always.

Just using Kenzoku instead of BOB now.. tbh think Kenzoku even better.

Big thumbs up to Molle and the guys, and lovely girls :)

Keep on the good work kicking the scum out of Eve space ! For the light yay!

Proof? Proof?

Check this for instance.. was just the killboard of yest.. its the same pretty much daily. Bob bbqing goons :)

img530.imageshack.us/img530/4382/lolgoonscrapqy2.jpg

Or the link to the Killboard...

www.killboard.net/

i would hope so.  goons are, self-admittedly, the absolute worst players of eve.  hell, mittens doesn't even log in but what? once a month?  goons are only the puppets of bob anyways, that's what DBP has always said.  if i were dragonballz, i'd worry about folks like RA, or maybe AAA deciding to take a bit out of them.

Worst case scenario that gives us (GBC) the chance to pew pew in delve. Still gotta give it to the goons for sticking to their guns they are still actively camping and making travel difficult in Delve. But i highly doubt NC will be able to establish themselves in the delve region. If Goonswarm started fielding experienced pilots and T2 fitted ships and HAC's they would do a lot more damage. Alas they are still sticking to their zerg tactics.

Originally posted by Elsabolts

Ya know if i were in the GoonSquad, Swarn or however you call these folks I just might be looking over my shoulder alot wondering what ill may befall us from the Dev's and left over Bobber's no matter what there name is now.

are you sure you play EVE?

Hows bob doing now Id like to know whats going on?

I used to play EVE and Im interested in the goings on.

Is this the Band of Boobies?

Originally posted by Xennith

Originally posted by Elsabolts

Ya know if i were in the GoonSquad, Swarn or however you call these folks I just might be looking over my shoulder alot wondering what ill may befall us from the Dev's and left over Bobber's no matter what there name is now.

are you sure you play EVE?

I thought the same exact thing as I read Elsabolts post.

Seems Elsa may just be a professional troll/eve hater.

Some newb that played a trial got ganked mining and has been trolling eve forums and topics for a long ass time now.

Hell anyone thats read about eve for the last six months can say they played Eve for a couple years.

THis explains the notorious "PVE server" posts this guys has haha!

He even recently posted eve negativity in a DF forum post.