Hey about those bpo it was a shame, even for most of them. But it's old news and all was already talked.

About account sharing, it breaks EULA but EVERYBODY does it. I don't do it myself, but I don't find it gamebreaking in any way. But hei, it's CCP's game.

But I was just talking about the Blood Raider role play stuff. And that was interesting knowing BoB was already there and rented space to Blood Raiders, wasn't it?

Originally posted by Ex0dUs101

Take your rubbish back to CAOD tbfh

what about it, exactly, is rubbish tbqfh, is it just tl:dr for you and therefore you just spewed forth wow-worthy comments?

what EXACTLY is rubbish about it?

did someone force you to read it?

did it hurt you to know that you could roleplay via emails to kieron and get freighters and faction bpcs?

Many alliances have roleplayed with CCP...

The thing in this matter is that an NPC entity wanted BoB space. As you will do with any player alliance wanting to come to your territory, there are fees involved (and it's actually cool you can do it in rp way! no other game will do it...).

I don't know what you're trying to do. Maybe marketing damage or something like that. But look, all is in the archives!

So, have a nice journey!

Originally posted by Malthros

Originally posted by JackDonkey

Originally posted by metalhead980

 

Ok so after all that, BoB has its space back with a cool new name.

 

 

I thought they named themselves KenZoku

 

LOL, KenZoku is a hell of alot better then a vanilla name like Band of brothers.

Originally posted by Distiler

Many alliances have roleplayed with CCP...

The thing in this matter is that an NPC entity wanted BoB space. As you will do with any player alliance wanting to come to your territory, there are fees involved (and it's actually cool you can do it in rp way! no other game will do it...).

 

I don't know what you're trying to do. Maybe marketing damage or something like that. But look, all is in the archives!

So, have a nice journey!

yes, marketing damage, because it's not blatantly obvious from my postings here that i'm a player.

could you link those archives that show other alliances bartering with npcs and getting blueprints, standings, freighters, other corporations shut down so that the alliance could take said corp's name, etc?

please proof /  link.

or tinfoil hat for you.  thanks.

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Malthros

Originally posted by JackDonkey

Originally posted by metalhead980

 

Ok so after all that, BoB has its space back with a cool new name.

 

 

I thought they named themselves KenZoku

 

LOL, KenZoku is a hell of alot better then a vanilla name like Band of brothers.

welp, they had ccp close another corp (or two? one for name, one for initials?) down so they could take it.

but now, "we didn't want that alliance anyways" in true bob "i lost, again, but didn't want it anyways" fashion.

I don't have a whole to really say on the whole situation. Since it's so big it's gonna take some time for everything to come out and even then you will not know what is true or not. I am neither pro BoB or pro Goons, I really could care less about either of them. In fact here's my take on them: BoB = Elitist old school players who think they rulle all. Goons = a bunch of counter strike kiddies running around thinking they are badass and spouting shit all day long.

I can say this though. CCP has given corp names over to people when one has been inactive a while. I know this because someone now has one of my old corps name so this is not a BoB favourtism thing. The other thing regarding the handing out of BPs. CCP used to do a lot more role play shit way back in the day when it was the core Eve gamers that kept Eve going in those lean years. BoB was not the only ones to receive things like this but BoB is the one everybody knows. CCP really interacted with the big RP corps and the true power corps of the time. They had to stop doing that because of people like Cosy here who would whine and cry favourtism so Eve lost some of its flavour due to cry baby assholes. CCP will NOT do a rollback and anyone who thinks the will or even should have no idea how CCP thinks. This will be left alone and it will be another page in the history of Eve.
 

So far as I can tell now it's just a bunch of pissy little shit heads whining and the Goons are claiming total victory but is going no where. The players that really made BoB know how to play and will keep going and be just as big as ever.

I just wonder how many of you were actually playing the game back then and know how the game worked and how much more involved in the players CCP was. CCP had to jump start a lot of shit back then to get things the way they are now.

Originally posted by Lordmonkus

I don't have a whole to really say on the whole situation. Since it's so big it's gonna take some time for everything to come out and even then you will not know what is true or not. I am neither pro BoB or pro Goons, I really could care less about either of them. In fact here's my take on them: BoB = Elitist old school players who think they rulle all. Goons = a bunch of counter strike kiddies running around thinking they are badass and spouting shit all day long.

I can say this though. CCP has given corp names over to people when one has been inactive a while. I know this because someone now has one of my old corps name so this is not a BoB favourtism thing. The other thing regarding the handing out of BPs. CCP used to do a lot more role play shit way back in the day when it was the core Eve gamers that kept Eve going in those lean years. BoB was not the only ones to receive things like this but BoB is the one everybody knows. CCP really interacted with the big RP corps and the true power corps of the time. They had to stop doing that because of people like Cosy here who would whine and cry favourtism so Eve lost some of its flavour due to cry baby assholes. CCP will NOT do a rollback and anyone who thinks the will or even should have no idea how CCP thinks. This will be left alone and it will be another page in the history of Eve.
 

So far as I can tell now it's just a bunch of pissy little shit heads whining and the Goons are claiming total victory but is going no where. The players that really made BoB know how to play and will keep going and be just as big as ever.

 

I just wonder how many of you were actually playing the game back then and know how the game worked and how much more involved in the players CCP was. CCP had to jump start a lot of shit back then to get things the way they are now.

"back then" being the latter part of 2005/early 2006?  that's not so far back.  goons gained mass numbers early 2006.

but like i said, anyone have those archive links that show non-bobs getting "stuffs"?

Probably not since no one cares about anyone else besides BoB.

But like I said, I am not gonna talk about things I don't know. I will say things about what I do know however and right now it's like a feeding frenzy for all the CCP and BoB haters out there. BoB is down and people want to get their cheap shots in and all the CCP haters are crawling out of the woodwork claiming another BoB / dev cheat.

A couple of weeks and this will all be done with til the next thing to happen.

Originally posted by cosy

Originally posted by Ex0dUs101

Sir, you fail at sov.

Best explanation :

The pos's have been anchored with non-contested sov, so when the alliance was recreated there was no need to re-calulate sov. The first dt after kenzoku towers were tagged w/ the new alliance name they automitcally get sov one. This isn't a bug or miscalculation, it's how it works.

Its not a bug, its not an exploit, its exactly how its always worked. The knowledgebase is wrong, thats been known for a long time.

this is funny part "The knowledgebase is wrong" that is official content made by CCP is like "the holy bible" i am curious what CCP will say about that  anyway CCP have to lose from this.

 

You might want to go get new marching orders from Kugu, unless your current orders are "show everyone how dumb you are".

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by Distiler

Many alliances have roleplayed with CCP...

The thing in this matter is that an NPC entity wanted BoB space. As you will do with any player alliance wanting to come to your territory, there are fees involved (and it's actually cool you can do it in rp way! no other game will do it...).

 

I don't know what you're trying to do. Maybe marketing damage or something like that. But look, all is in the archives!

So, have a nice journey!

 

yes, marketing damage, because it's not blatantly obvious from my postings here that i'm a player.

could you link those archives that show other alliances bartering with npcs and getting blueprints, standings, freighters, other corporations shut down so that the alliance could take said corp's name, etc?

 

please proof /  link.

or tinfoil hat for you.  thanks.

Post in the EVE-O forums asking about the Guristas Dreads helping with POS sieges.  BoB getting some BPCs and standings (which according to posts from lord waratron, don't work due to some bug with setting standings) in return for there being an untouchable NPC clump of space in the middle of their region, still sounds like a craptastic deal to me.  Before people cried about events, stuff like this used to happen in 0.0, and BoB isn't the only alliance to have dealings with the pirate factions.

Altho from what I'd veen in their forums, they do seem to have had one of the crappier deals "Have a few billion ISK worth of stuff in return for untouchable bases that invaders can work from".

Originally posted by Malthros

You might want to go get new marching orders from Kugu, unless your current orders are "show everyone how dumb you are".

now sir i am simply retarded 

This is actually pretty cool.  Ryzom had a similar roleplay initiative from its devs.  If I had known EvE had this I would have joined years ago.

Originally posted by Malthros

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by Distiler

Many alliances have roleplayed with CCP...

The thing in this matter is that an NPC entity wanted BoB space. As you will do with any player alliance wanting to come to your territory, there are fees involved (and it's actually cool you can do it in rp way! no other game will do it...).

 

I don't know what you're trying to do. Maybe marketing damage or something like that. But look, all is in the archives!

So, have a nice journey!

 

yes, marketing damage, because it's not blatantly obvious from my postings here that i'm a player.

could you link those archives that show other alliances bartering with npcs and getting blueprints, standings, freighters, other corporations shut down so that the alliance could take said corp's name, etc?

 

please proof /  link.

or tinfoil hat for you.  thanks.

 

Post in the EVE-O forums asking about the Guristas Dreads helping with POS sieges.  BoB getting some BPCs and standings (which according to posts from lord waratron, don't work due to some bug with setting standings) in return for there being an untouchable NPC clump of space in the middle of their region, still sounds like a craptastic deal to me.  Before people cried about events, stuff like this used to happen in 0.0, and BoB isn't the only alliance to have dealings with the pirate factions.

 

Altho from what I'd veen in their forums, they do seem to have had one of the crappier deals "Have a few billion ISK worth of stuff in return for untouchable bases that invaders can work from".

this is the third time in this thread i am asking for links, proof, something about "people other than bob" that have done the quoted... you even replied to a post i made asking about this... and somehow totally didn't reply to the questions you quoted.

so, what conclusion i must come to is that none of you have any links, archives, whatever, of anyone OTHER than bob doing this stuff.

thanks, that's all i was asking.  "i heard some other guy did this" isn't what i'm asking for, and i really am typing in english.

Originally posted by damian7 

this is the third time in this thread i am asking for links, proof, something about "people other than bob" that have done the quoted... you even replied to a post i made asking about this... and somehow totally didn't reply to the questions you quoted.

 

so, what conclusion i must come to is that none of you have any links, archives, whatever, of anyone OTHER than bob doing this stuff.

 

thanks, that's all i was asking.  "i heard some other guy did this" isn't what i'm asking for, and i really am typing in english.

 

Sorry but if you want proof, go get it yourself instead of being lazy and crying foul.  Anyone whose played for a few years and lived north with G/IRON/NBSI, or knew them, knows full well about when Guristas (NPC) dreads helped siege an alliance's towers back when dreads were less comon than motherships are now.

There's no 'i heard about this', I know for a fact this happened.  Just as I know for a fact a serpentis admiral stole a Nyx, was trying to escape with it, got killed by Goonswarm en-route, and players then turned on the CONCORD guys they were gathering with in Stacmon.  Go look deeper into the events section of EVE's forums, that area existed originally for AURORA stuff like what you want proof of.

Originally posted by Malthros

Originally posted by damian7 

this is the third time in this thread i am asking for links, proof, something about "people other than bob" that have done the quoted... you even replied to a post i made asking about this... and somehow totally didn't reply to the questions you quoted.

 

so, what conclusion i must come to is that none of you have any links, archives, whatever, of anyone OTHER than bob doing this stuff.

 

thanks, that's all i was asking.  "i heard some other guy did this" isn't what i'm asking for, and i really am typing in english.

 

 

Sorry but if you want proof, go get it yourself instead of being lazy and crying foul.  Anyone whose played for a few years and lived north with G/IRON/NBSI, or knew them, knows full well about when Guristas (NPC) dreads helped siege an alliance's towers back when dreads were less comon than motherships are now.

 

There's no 'i heard about this', I know for a fact this happened.  Just as I know for a fact a serpentis admiral stole a Nyx, was trying to escape with it, got killed by Goonswarm en-route, and players then turned on the CONCORD guys they were gathering with in Stacmon.  Go look deeper into the events section of EVE's forums, that area existed originally for AURORA stuff like what you want proof of.

you must be new to this forum.

over the past few years, when some of us would make comments about ccp imposing an artificial max-number of pilot limit a bob-friendly system AFTER bob had it's fleet fielded, and therefore only a, literal, handful of anti-bob pilots could enter the system... no one took my, or other's, words for it.  it was a PROOF or STFU event.  we proved.

when the t20 stuff came out... NOT JUST the handful of items that ccp admitted, but EVERYTHING, included the titan pilot account sharing and the OTHER t2 bpos that ccp did NOT admit to... same thing... and we didn't STFU, cuz we did provide PROOF.

there's probably a list of half a dozen or more items that we provided PROOF so that we didn't have to STFU.

and not a one of them was "cuz i said so" or "you're a noob if you don't know this"

so, PROOF or STFU.  it's really that simple.  take your QQ to the wow forums and/or gbtw with the QQ "oh everyone knows it and you're stupid and a noob if you don't"

obviously, everyone doesn't know it.  but again, even after proving, some people are too stupid to understand everything t20 was involved in, or everything that ccp has done FOR bob all these years.

sorry, not once have i been ALLOWED to make statements without my having to PROVE or STFU.  claiming this or claiming that doesn't allow you to QQ cuz you're too lazy to prove, but it does give you the right to stfu.

Can someone please from the MMORPG.com forum mod team please lock this PoS thread?

BOB making a new alliance and keeping thier space at sov 1 is not an exploit we already know this and there's no reason for all this QQ about completly outdated exploits.

There is no exploit!!!!!!!!!!

./thread

now stfu

If you hate bob so much go kick thier ass in Delve and get the hell off the forums.

Originally posted by metalhead980

Can someone please from the MMORPG.com forum mod team please lock this PoS thread?

BOB making a new alliance and keeping thier space at sov 1 is not an exploit we already know this and there's no reason for all this QQ about completly outdated exploits.

There is no exploit!!!!!!!!!!

./thread

now stfu

If you hate bob so much go kick thier ass in Delve and get the hell off the forums.

oh, i guess i've made it a secert to what goonswarm i belong to?

but do QQ more about locking things cuz people force you to read them and it hurts you.  if you hate this thread so much STOP READING IT.

QQing belongs in wow.  so come on down to delve (or jita, or whever it is you QQ at), i'll be more than happy to call you primary every time i see you on grid.

Your point was pretty much squashed on the original thread on the EVE-O forums even goons and other BoB rivals state how the old aurora situation worked.

Was aurora biased? it  pretty much looks cliques of sycophants and cronies undoubtedly passed benefits onto each other but that's an issue about the system as a whole not just BoB and that's why it was ultimately closed down.

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by metalhead980

Can someone please from the MMORPG.com forum mod team please lock this PoS thread?

BOB making a new alliance and keeping thier space at sov 1 is not an exploit we already know this and there's no reason for all this QQ about completly outdated exploits.

There is no exploit!!!!!!!!!!

./thread

now stfu

If you hate bob so much go kick thier ass in Delve and get the hell off the forums.

 

oh, i guess i've made it a secert to what goonswarm i belong to?

 

but do QQ more about locking things cuz people force you to read them and it hurts you.  if you hate this thread so much STOP READING IT.

QQing belongs in wow.  so come on down to delve (or jita, or whever it is you QQ at), i'll be more than happy to call you primary every time i see you on grid.

Oh give me a break already dude!

keep flexing that epeen in a month when bob2 has all thier original space back I will be sure to laugh at you.

You bring up old exploits like anyone gives a rats ass about them.

I enjoy all topics of Eve but man these exploit bitch threads are just sad.

For a supposed goon player you really bitch alot.

GL in Delve its not like you guys got the job done, last time i checked bob2 still had delve lol.

QQ more emorage on brother.

Edit: I have you blocked and reported, don't bother responding. once you get over a Exploit thats years old maybe people will give a rats ass about your posts. oh and stop trying to bait/troll people.

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by damian7

Originally posted by metalhead980

Can someone please from the MMORPG.com forum mod team please lock this PoS thread?

BOB making a new alliance and keeping thier space at sov 1 is not an exploit we already know this and there's no reason for all this QQ about completly outdated exploits.

There is no exploit!!!!!!!!!!

./thread

now stfu

If you hate bob so much go kick thier ass in Delve and get the hell off the forums.

 

oh, i guess i've made it a secert to what goonswarm i belong to?

 

but do QQ more about locking things cuz people force you to read them and it hurts you.  if you hate this thread so much STOP READING IT.

QQing belongs in wow.  so come on down to delve (or jita, or whever it is you QQ at), i'll be more than happy to call you primary every time i see you on grid.

 

Oh give me a break already dude!

keep flexing that epeen in a month when bob2 has all thier original space back I will be sure to laugh at you.

You bring up old exploits like anyone gives a rats ass about them.

I enjoy all topics of Eve but man these exploit bitch threads are just sad.

For a supposed goon player you really bitch alot.

GL in Delve its not like you guys got the job done, last time i checked bob2 still had delve lol.

QQ more emorage on brother.

Oh give ME a break already dude!

you act like bob didn't talk mad shit about owning people's games until bob ended up chased INTO delve with NOTHING else.  you act like bob didn't use pet alliance after pet alliance as a meet shield.

where is the HUGE expanse of space that bob owned and controlled?  or were you not around before this year?  do you not remember molley talking about their goal of controlling ALL space, not just the goon game?  o, are you selective in your memory and you don't remember any of the trash talking that dbp and molley did when they "crushed" the goons once and for all?  are you too new to the game to know any of that?

QQ is what you seemed to be doing.  ZOMG LOCK THE THREAD LOCK THE THREAD ZOMG.  but if you can't remember two posts ago, why should you remember anything about what was actually being discussed?

by the by, what are you doing in game right now?  mining something in high sec?  maybe you know what is in these archives that no one can be bothered to prove, only reference like it's holy scripts or something?

yeah, i whine a lot... providing facts and demanding that factual information be provided in return, yeah, lemme tell ya, that's full of QQ.

oh wait, i'm the one that was actually emoraging about locking threads, amirite?  oh wait, that WAS emorage and it was by you... it was actually shocking to see that on an eve forum, which is why i said to take your QQing back to wow.  

so, back on what we were on about -- proof about folks other than bob, or stfu.   no emoraging QQ noobs please.

I never realized what a whiny newb you were damian7.  I've already told you where to go to get the info about events you wanted.  The fact that you are completely oblivious to things like the Guristas Dreads helping siege an alliance tells me you're fairly new to the game, and probably want some hand holding.

That's just too damn bad.  I'm not your babysitter.  So sit there and ramble on about bob being some aurora-assisted group and tell yourself they're the only ones who ever had interaction with the NPC factions through them. 

But anyways, I'm not here to argue with someone like you, this is for cosy:

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=991806&page=4#115