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General Discussion  » How will Darkfall be played by the masses?

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jusomdude

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2/03/09 5:06:03 PM#26

If you're referring to the majority of the people actually playing, I think it'll be mostly pre-guilded people who have already decided if they are gonna be bandits and kill everyone or anti-PKs. At first I think it will be mostly people killin' eachother regardless of race. Most people are probably gonna attack their own race at least a few times for some reason or another just becuase that's one of the games biggest features, assuming most of the players are the intended audience.

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2/03/09 5:53:55 PM#27
Originally posted by stayontarget

Something is gonna get played. Not sure if its gonna be the player or the game at this point.


This!    And as far as this goes:

Originally posted by Sarayu

I think the whole point of this game is that you can choose however you want to play.

It will be whoever is bigger and stronger that will determine how you play.  Where you play.  Even when you play.

metalhead980

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2/03/09 6:04:24 PM#28
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Many will start  ganking anyone same race or not by thinking how funny it is ..till they realize there is some form of organization needed for  bigger  and ambitious goals  ..

May start with .."no good thinking to PK your Team member you need sometimes Teams" .."no good thought to PK guildies you may end up guildless and on your own" .."no good thought to PK same race you may end up having trouble to buy good gear cause your outlaw to best markets" ..etc ..

Or I could just buy a 2nd account and keep one lawless and the other as my market alt.

 

 

LOL, god damn EVE players and thier 5 alt accounts.

Why would I play a pathetic themepark MMO when I could enjoy a masterpiece like Mass Effect, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Dragon Age?

Thradar

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2/03/09 6:14:50 PM#29

I don't believe the "masses" will come anywhere near this game.

Kyleran

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2/03/09 6:23:25 PM#30
Originally posted by metalhead980
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Many will start  ganking anyone same race or not by thinking how funny it is ..till they realize there is some form of organization needed for  bigger  and ambitious goals  ..

May start with .."no good thinking to PK your Team member you need sometimes Teams" .."no good thought to PK guildies you may end up guildless and on your own" .."no good thought to PK same race you may end up having trouble to buy good gear cause your outlaw to best markets" ..etc ..

Or I could just buy a 2nd account and keep one lawless and the other as my market alt.

 

 

LOL, god damn EVE players and thier 5 alt accounts.

 

LOL, you can blame my EVE alt acct addiction on early DAOC, when buff bots ruled the day. I always had at least one, and eventually had 2 around at all times.

 

 

 

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2/03/09 6:30:49 PM#31
Originally posted by stayontarget

Something is gonna get played. Not sure if its gonna be the player or the game at this point.


 

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Sarayu

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2/03/09 6:31:29 PM#32
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by metalhead980
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Many will start  ganking anyone same race or not by thinking how funny it is ..till they realize there is some form of organization needed for  bigger  and ambitious goals  ..

May start with .."no good thinking to PK your Team member you need sometimes Teams" .."no good thought to PK guildies you may end up guildless and on your own" .."no good thought to PK same race you may end up having trouble to buy good gear cause your outlaw to best markets" ..etc ..

Or I could just buy a 2nd account and keep one lawless and the other as my market alt.

 


LOL, god damn EVE players and thier 5 alt accounts.

 

LOL, you can blame my EVE alt acct addiction on early DAOC, when buff bots ruled the day. I always had at least one, and eventually had 2 around at all times.

 

 

 

 No doubt!! Bots killed all. And it sucked back in the day, I didn't have enough money for one so if i was solo i got it up the back end every time...

AllTheZios

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2/03/09 6:46:36 PM#33
Originally posted by Ceclis

Do you guys believe that DF will be completely chaotic, humans killing humans, orcs killing orcs etc.  Or do you think it is better if the humans work together to kill the orcs?

I understand the beauty of a free and open PVP world, but I don't understand the reason for killing the people that are part of your race.  It would seem that it would be more profitable to work together then to work against each other.

What are your opinions?

 

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Quizzical

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2/03/09 6:59:21 PM#34

Your first mistake is assuming that Darkfall will be played by the masses. 

Gnomad

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2/04/09 12:14:56 AM#35
Originally posted by Sarayu
Originally posted by Ceclis
Originally posted by Scarren
Originally posted by Ceclis

Do you guys believe that DF will be completely chaotic, humans killing humans, orcs killing orcs etc.  Or do you think it is better if the humans work together to kill the orcs?

I understand the beauty of a free and open PVP world, but I don't understand the reason for killing the people that are part of your race.  It would seem that it would be more profitable to work together then to work against each other.

What are your opinions?

Don't think your the right type of player for darkfall or any ffa pvp game for that matter , just asking and dont understanding the question makes you the typical .. why did he kill me , i was just looking at the flowers kind of person. 

and for real no one cares what kind of race you are , your in my way i felt like killing you, ooh and that sword of yours looks shiny.

 

 


 

See that was the exact response I was expecting.  You don't know or understand what type of gamer I am. Because I feel that people should work together, and fight against a common foe doesn't mean this game isn't for me. I'm sure there will be more intelligent people out there that can comprehend this idea.  If you go rogue and start killing your own race your going to get killed by someone bigger and better then you, and they are going to have no consequences, like turning grey/red, like you are for being a pk.

 

I think the whole point of this game is that you can choose however you want to play. You can go on a murderous rampage, follow the rules, not even take part in killing and become  a rich merchant, become an explorer, help build an empire. It's supposed to be a very realistic representation of a real life back in the what would you call it, medieval times?


 

So what kind of Goblins did King Richard fight back in medieval times? Did he take mages or wizards with him on the crusades?

To answer the original question, the masses will run FROM this game not to it. Most people move away from a stinking pile, some people (sycophantic fawnbois) gravitate toward this pile like flies.

Gyrus

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2/04/09 12:58:42 AM#36

Initially, it will be confused.  Because we really know so little about the game people have no idea about the world, the races, what works and what doesn't.

Very quickly though, one or two races will begin to dominate.
My pick is the Dog Men and the Orcs.  Both have the 'cool' factor.

At that point the vast majority of players will join those sides and they will outnumber the other three sides combined by 3 to 1 at least.  Mob mentality here.  Players like to win.

From then on they will Gank and Zerg the other three races out of existence.  If you are not one of these two races... forget ever having and keeping a Guild City too.

For those saying that the races don't count - to a point you may be right.  But the reality is that by all being part of the 'race' it will help the gankers / zergers identify one another so they don't fight one another by mistake.

There will be infiltrators of course - and this will cause some initial confusion - but their efforts will only have a minor effect.  That said - some of these infiltrators will become 'famous' as they are hunted down.
Things will get nasty when they are labeled 'griefers' and there are calls to have them banned.

Aventurine will begin to see that they have an ongoing problem when capitol cites are constantly overrun to the point where no-one even bothers to mount a defense any more.
There will be many complaints on the forums - including from zergers who have run out of targets.

Aventurine will realize that there is no 'easy fix' this late in design - and will promise a solution is being worked on while releasing several patches on Avatar modeling / animation, combat mechanics, new islands, new city build locations.

Eventually, many of the gankers / zergers will realize that the only people left to fight are other gankers / zergers and at that point... when does "Fallen Earth" come out?

 

loves2play

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Oops, I did it again.

2/04/09 1:03:37 AM#37

Assuming anyone downloads this game to begin with, I imagine the solo-players running around paranoid of gankers, and Guild/Clans/big party groups reaping the benefits. 

judex99

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2/04/09 3:53:08 AM#38
Originally posted by Ceclis

 

How will Darkfall be played by the masses?

 

 

it wont be, its a niche game.

svann

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2/04/09 2:05:33 PM#39

If its a gank fest then the rpg elements fail.

Ravanos

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2/04/09 3:47:44 PM#40

if this game ever has more than 100k players i'd be suprised. it will probably get as big as Shadowbane.

MST3K84

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2/04/09 4:39:57 PM#41

It's a sandbox game, the ability to do anything and kill anyone is the best part! How much fun would a game like GTA be if you could only kill the guys you were sent after, and none of the helpless pedestrians standing in your way!  

Sramota

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2/04/09 4:43:25 PM#42

Nine out of ten people follow the rules
also DFO won't be played by 'masses' as the 'mass' is a bunch of carebears who can't put up with the "OMIGOD HE TOOK ME STUFF!" situation
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SXRchosen1

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2/04/09 4:45:46 PM#43

Mass death imo.

This game is made for the cold hearted and "lets F*CK THIS NOOB"

...god i cant wait


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Wizardry

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2/04/09 4:48:59 PM#44

If and when i get into the game,i will be an explorer and one who is trying out the game mechanics.I have ZERO interest in PVP,so if the game has no content outside of PVP,it will be no where's near my HD.

Varking

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2/04/09 4:52:49 PM#45

It won't be played by the masses. This isn't a game designed or hyped toward attracting the masses either. You can tell that just by the fact that they got super giddy over 300k beta applicants. AoC and WAR each were near or above the one million mark in terms of beta applicants. I am confident that WAR has more subscribers than AoC does currently and that would put them together at around half a million. Both games lost many players due to a shaky launch, launch bugs, and a lack of good end game content. As poor as the games launched for both AoC and WAR, and as sorry as the end game in both currently is, if you think an Indie Dev Team is going to produce a better launch and a better end game than either of those, you are nuts or you are truly blinded by the hype.

 

Those of us who are going to play this game are in a very tiny niche, which I personally wouldn't even dare label as a "chunk" of the market.

Gyrus

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2/04/09 9:03:05 PM#46
Originally posted by MST3K84

It's a sandbox game, the ability to do anything ...

You REALLY need to keep up with developments.

No.  For a start you can only build cities in certain places and to certain templates - that's just for a start.
Who knows what other restrictions we will find out about when the NDA is (finally) lifted?

Gyrus

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2/04/09 9:05:29 PM#47
Originally posted by Sramota

Nine out of ten people follow the rules
...

And it's the one out of ten who set the standard of play.

Gankers are the minority of players IMHO - yet they routinely bring games to their knees.

Gyrus

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2/04/09 9:08:41 PM#48
Originally posted by SXRchosen1

Mass death imo.

This game is made for the cold hearted and "lets F*CK THIS NOOB"

...god i cant wait

You know, smart hunters see the need for conservation.

F^CK A NOOB and he is unlikely to subscribe.  That means you don't get to F^CK him again.

Bag and size limits ensure that there will always be critters to F^CK for you and future generations.

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2/04/09 9:18:02 PM#49
Originally posted by Gyrus
Originally posted by MST3K84

It's a sandbox game, the ability to do anything ...

You REALLY need to keep up with developments.

No.  For a start you can only build cities in certain places and to certain templates - that's just for a start.
Who knows what other restrictions we will find out about when the NDA is (finally) lifted?


 

The ability to "do anything" has always been a myth. You're always limited by the mechanics of any virtual world just as you're limited by the mechanics of the real world. People need to stop using trite phrases and say what they really mean. It's a less structured environment than your average MMO.

Incedentally the freedom to build almost anywhere and in almost  any manner was a real problem for Shadowbane. Darkfasll just gave up a little freedom to solve those problems. It's a trade off like everything else in game design.

 

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Gyrus

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2/04/09 9:20:44 PM#50

No disagreement - I am just sick to death of the Darkfall Fanbois spouting rubbish about "go ANYWHERE, do ANYTHING."

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