Originally posted by DarthRaiden

"All Aventurine needs to do is

turn the mobs on,

DarKfall is no WoW clone or a some mediocre game...Dragons aren't all over the map  you have to go find one to kill..Mobs aren't even main content ..instead of mobs there is plenty of players to kill ..In a true MMO the content is not lifeless ..it shots back and it is controlled ideally by a player..in DarkFall your online experience involves other online players..other players play the role (hence roleplay)  opponents  to kill and loot like you would do with lifeless mobs ..So you will never see Mobs everywhere in Darkfall  but you will see players to interact with -interact means kill and loot ..,too

turn the NPCs on,

For what reason should there be many more NPC ..again in true MMO ..most interaction happens between players and not with lifeless bots like in singleplayer games

turn the collision detection on,

It is.who tell to you it isn't ?

turn the speed switch to "fast" instead of slow,

Speed will not be turned to fast ..DarkFall isn't some anim show with unnaturally  spastic like looking  moves and unnatural looking superhero speed..

and turn debug mode off.

right

"

 

Learn 2 differ games released from games still in test ..

Originally posted by Teala

A miracle patch is in the works for the day the game releases.

 

/sarcasm off

Perhaps its the same miracle patch Mythic are implementing soon to save warhammer.

I think its better to listen to what the beta testers say about this game. Or better, wait until you (OP) have tryed it yourself.

And the one thing both troll and fan (beta tester) have agreed on, is that the gameworld is the best one so far in a MMO.

Originally posted by Teala

A miracle patch is in the works for the day the game releases.

 

/sarcasm off

tasos already said there is no miracle patch

Originally posted by zaxtor99

All Aventurine needs to do is turn the mobs on, turn the NPCs on, turn the collision detection on, turn the speed switch to "fast" instead of slow, and turn debug mode off...

Yep. As beta leak after beta leak is revealed the public, the excuses from the Darkfall fanatics just keeps piling up. I'm so sick of hearing that they need to turn "debug" mode off or that problems are only because they are in debug mode.. I am about to scream.

It truly is frightening at the depths that the fans here will delve to cover up the problems as they are revealed. Aventurine, even with their "top secrecy mode: on" and them continuing to keep it all undercover is obviously trying ridiculously hard to keep it all a secret for a reason. They aren't releasing the NDA for a reason, and it's not because its as Tasos has told us, trust me on that one. Tasos, ofcourse has told us all months ago that this game was ready for launch over eight weeks ago and was running better then most mmos on the market, blah blah blah. Well, if that were truly the case, do you think the NDA would still be up and everything would still be kept such a secret? Ofcourse not, they would want the publicity and word of mouth about how great their game was for as long as possible if they were REALLY confident about the state of their game. Any fool can see that.

To me and others, there really isn't much mystery at all about the reasons for their keeping everything so "shush shush" all these weeks. We have seen this before with many other mmos. Their game, if the truth were to be known to the public, is in a state of shambles and simply not running even half as good as the great Tasos has been publicly proclaiming for months on end now.

This is not hard to see or understand.

So really fans.. Why all the excuses now? Why all the backing up of Tasos and the game when you really don't even believe what you are saying yourself. You know better. And what about all the fans a couple of months ago that have suddenly went into hiding? Where did all of them go?

Look guys (and ladies).. I totally understand your desire for a game that isn't like all the others out now and your desires for a game that is 180 degrees opposite of WOW and LOTRO. I get that. I would like seeing nothing more myself, trust me. But I cannot let wishful thinking or desires outweigh the cold, hard truth that stares us all in the eyes now.

To make it simple, do you really think Blizzard or Turbine would trade even 1/100th of what they have now on the market to be in Aventurines shoes right now? Now be honest. Ofcourse not! Anyone that envy's Aventurine right now isn't thinking straight. All their promises after such a long history of development with this game. And their game probably is not even close to being ready and in a state that can even be competitive to the major mmo games out right now. And furthermore, I don't even think they have the knowledge or ability to fix it and make it work as they have told us it would work. Right now, I honestly think that Aventurine is up the creek without a paddle and praying that this mess turns up the best that is possibly can.

Lord help them. They are gonna need it and all the magic dust they can get their hands on. If they just had a magic reagent vendor in their client working, maybe they could even double click him and hope that he had some magic dust for sale that they could buy out. But even that magic vendor is still not a part of their own game yet. Lord help them, like I say....

- "Wis Quas" (Time to come out from hiding Tasos and Aventurine) {grin}

- Zaxx

 

 

As much as I'm creaming for DF, isnt that the same excuse that AoC used? Ugh. I wish they would just say "Look, man. The game doesn't look excessively good. It has problems. We'll release it when its finished." Then they would get points for some kind of integrity.

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

"All Aventurine needs to do is

turn the mobs on,

DarKfall is no WoW clone or a some mediocre game...Dragons aren't all over the map  you have to go find one to kill..Mobs aren't even main content ..instead of mobs there is plenty of players to kill ..In a true MMO the content is not lifeless ..it shots back and it is controlled ideally by a player..in DarkFall your online experience involves other online players..other players play the role (hence roleplay)  opponents  to kill and loot like you would do with lifeless mobs ..So you will never see Mobs everywhere in Darkfall  but you will see players to interact with -interact means kill and loot ..

so every time you see another player he counts towards your "content counter"  ...

turn the NPCs on,

For what reason should there be many more NPC ..again in true MMO ..most interaction happens between players and not with lifeless bots like in singleplayer games

turn the collision detection on,

It is.who tell to you it isn't ?

turn the speed switch to "fast" instead of slow,

Speed will not be turned to fast ..DarkFall isn't some anim show with unnaturally  spastic like looking  moves and unnatural looking superhero speed..

and turn debug mode off.

right

"

 

Learn 2 differ games released from games still in test ..

Actually the point of 'roleplay' is to take on the persona of your character. No where does it state that the role you play has to be that of a murderer/victim.

As for your definition of a 'True MMO' No where does it state that content is not lifeless AI bots. MMO stands for Massively Multiplayer Online - which means just that, mass amounts of people in a single game world and again there is no unwritten or written rule stating that characters need to play against each other.

The reason your posts are shot down so easily is because you use subjective material and conjecture as fact. You use someone elses statements of the game as a fact that the game is solid. You use your idea of what a real game is as fact. Your preferences and someone elses opinion do not constitute fact. Quote as many beta leaks as you want for they hold no true evidence or proof of life for the game.

You are a victim of only hearing what you want to hear and knowing only what you've heard.

Originally posted by bayareamj

"Yep. As beta leak after beta leak is revealed the public, the excuses from the Darkfall fanatics just keeps piling up. I'm so sick of hearing that they need to turn "debug" mode off or that problems are only because they are in debug mode.. I am about to scream."

 

What's so foolish and asinine about this whole post, this quote in particular, is that you are not hearing crap, you are reading it.  Stop visiting the Darkfall forums if you hate the game or don't believe the game is worth your time.

 

I'm not interested in playing Aion, hence I'm not over on the Aion boards trashing the game or it's devs...

 

Done deal. 

lol he has a valid point and is clearly not just flaming on darkfall. Honestly why do you say that only people who like darkfall should post in the darkfall forums?

You're saying that anybody who disagrees with your opinions is not allowed to voice them and should leave. Yes - YOU obviously have an open mind and have NOT made your mind up about the game yet and have been playing the game for months yourself so really know what you're talking about. Obviously

Don't flame people just because they have a different view.

Originally posted by AllTheZios

Originally posted by zaxtor99

All Aventurine needs to do is turn the mobs on, turn the NPCs on, turn the collision detection on, turn the speed switch to "fast" instead of slow, and turn debug mode off...

Yep. As beta leak after beta leak is revealed the public, the excuses from the Darkfall fanatics just keeps piling up. I'm so sick of hearing that they need to turn "debug" mode off or that problems are only because they are in debug mode.. I am about to scream.

It truly is frightening at the depths that the fans here will delve to cover up the problems as they are revealed. Aventurine, even with their "top secrecy mode: on" and them continuing to keep it all undercover is obviously trying ridiculously hard to keep it all a secret for a reason. They aren't releasing the NDA for a reason, and it's not because its as Tasos has told us, trust me on that one. Tasos, ofcourse has told us all months ago that this game was ready for launch over eight weeks ago and was running better then most mmos on the market, blah blah blah. Well, if that were truly the case, do you think the NDA would still be up and everything would still be kept such a secret? Ofcourse not, they would want the publicity and word of mouth about how great their game was for as long as possible if they were REALLY confident about the state of their game. Any fool can see that.

To me and others, there really isn't much mystery at all about the reasons for their keeping everything so "shush shush" all these weeks. We have seen this before with many other mmos. Their game, if the truth were to be known to the public, is in a state of shambles and simply not running even half as good as the great Tasos has been publicly proclaiming for months on end now.

This is not hard to see or understand.

So really fans.. Why all the excuses now? Why all the backing up of Tasos and the game when you really don't even believe what you are saying yourself. You know better. And what about all the fans a couple of months ago that have suddenly went into hiding? Where did all of them go?

Look guys (and ladies).. I totally understand your desire for a game that isn't like all the others out now and your desires for a game that is 180 degrees opposite of WOW and LOTRO. I get that. I would like seeing nothing more myself, trust me. But I cannot let wishful thinking or desires outweigh the cold, hard truth that stares us all in the eyes now.

To make it simple, do you really think Blizzard or Turbine would trade even 1/100th of what they have now on the market to be in Aventurines shoes right now? Now be honest. Ofcourse not! Anyone that envy's Aventurine right now isn't thinking straight. All their promises after such a long history of development with this game. And their game probably is not even close to being ready and in a state that can even be competitive to the major mmo games out right now. And furthermore, I don't even think they have the knowledge or ability to fix it and make it work as they have told us it would work. Right now, I honestly think that Aventurine is up the creek without a paddle and praying that this mess turns up the best that is possibly can.

Lord help them. They are gonna need it and all the magic dust they can get their hands on. If they just had a magic reagent vendor in their client working, maybe they could even double click him and hope that he had some magic dust for sale that they could buy out. But even that magic vendor is still not a part of their own game yet. Lord help them, like I say....

- "Wis Quas" (Time to come out from hiding Tasos and Aventurine) {grin}

- Zaxx

 

 

 

As much as I'm creaming for DF, isnt that the same excuse that AoC used? Ugh. I wish they would just say "Look, man. The game doesn't look excessively good. It has problems. We'll release it when its finished." Then they would get points for some kind of integrity.

Sir, you have nailed it.

Thats all any of us really need to hear is the truth for a change. If they would let actual news sites see the game and print a non biased preview for everyone to see as well as AV just coming clean it would go a long way to showing their integrity.

Right now its just far too late for them to break their cycle, just as it was too late for Funcom with AoC and coming clean at the very last moment.