Originally posted by daywalker27

tl;dr Version: Is the overwhelming attention given by sites such as this giving DF a trashy bunch of newcomers that will force Aventurine to release the game early even if it needs more time going to ruin the game? In my opinion this was the case of AoC, except AoC always wanted that attention, when DF doesn't.

If Aventurine are going to release a crappy MMORPG or a feature-incomplete release client, then they only have themselves to blame. History is today's best teacher.

Originally posted by zaxtor99

The OP is looking awfully hard for a bailout excuse, either to himself or to others already.

After following it for however long he has (3 years according to him) he finally starts seeing the light that "Hey this game might just be a pile of steaming crap when it launches next month" - So, he now wants to shift the blame from Tasos to mmorpg.com and other such media sites huh?

That's real convenient.

If this game launches next month and is a complete pile of garbage, it's Not Aventurine or Tasos fault. And Tasos still never lied or told any untruths. No way. It would be ALL the fault of mmorpg.com and other such sites acquiring too much attention and pressure on pool lil' Tasos and and forcing him to release the game before it is ready.

THAT is exactly what this guy is trying to say to us.

Oh my.

Shame on you mmorpg.com for causing Darkfall to be a piece of shit if it is! It will be ALL your fault! And shame on you also for making them release it and hype it up so now the mighty god Tasos will look tarnished, not like the "perfect god" that the OP sees him as!

ROTF.

Can we say "delusional"? Can we say "30 steps past the 'fanboy' stage"??

Well, hell I guess everyone needs to find something to believe in in their life here on earth.

- Zaxx

The OP would make a great 2nd generation cultist after everyone else took the coolaid wouldn't he? 

Originally posted by harmonica

They're an indie team trying to do something different - why all of the hate?

because this place is full of a lot of bitter no-lifers, who are frustrated that they cant get the feeling of the first days of mmo´ing back, and since they have literally nothing else in their life, no friends, no girl-friend, no hobbies, they must troll this place 24/7

Originally posted by Staatsschutz

Originally posted by harmonica

They're an indie team trying to do something different - why all of the hate?

 

because this place is full of a lot of bitter no-lifers, who are frustrated that they cant get the feeling of the first days of mmo´ing back, and since they have literally nothing else in their life, no friends, no girl-friend, no hobbies, they must troll this place 24/7

It never occurs to some people that some of us actually work in front of a computer for a living.  When there is nothing better to do at work I come here to remember why I lost faith in humanity . . .

Originally posted by Locklain

Originally posted by Staatsschutz

Originally posted by harmonica

They're an indie team trying to do something different - why all of the hate?

 

because this place is full of a lot of bitter no-lifers, who are frustrated that they cant get the feeling of the first days of mmo´ing back, and since they have literally nothing else in their life, no friends, no girl-friend, no hobbies, they must troll this place 24/7

It never occurs to some people that some of us actually work in front of a computer for a living.  When there is nothing better to do at work I come here to remember why I lost faith in humanity . . .

i come here to laugh at the trolls as they repeat their mantra "darkfall fanbois are cultists". funny one person says it and then soon everyone starts saying it. monkey see monkey do I guess or in this case monkey say monkey repeat lol. watch them grasp at the last few straws now knowing that DF IS what it promised and will be a great game for people that wanted FPS combat and a sandbox world.

Originally posted by harmonica

Originally posted by jy88902

Originally posted by harmonica

Not sure, but I think it's sad that an indie team is being trashed and held up to a much higher standard than the uber rich design companies.

They're an indie team trying to do something different - why all of the hate?

Blizzard could make Darkfall right now (with much cooler graphics/animations and a quality engine) if it wanted to, but they won't. They only want to make what will make them the most money, so they say "fuck creativity" in favor of cash.

That's fine, but it's not as admirable as the Darkfall team which is going with a risky niche game because it's a game they'd love to see - not because it's guaranteed money, which it obviously isn't.

And I'm not so naive to think that Adventurine doesn't want money too, but at least they're trying to do something different.

 

This is one of the most delusional, retarded, batshit insane pile of tripe I've ever read. Good job.

 

How is it batshit insane? Saying that I think it's nice to have a company trying to make an innovative game vs a company that is just trying to make the most mainstream game it can for mass appeal is crazy?

 

 

 

well they are also working on diablo 3.....give them a break... that games gonna kick @$$

Originally posted by harmonica

Not sure, but I think it's sad that an indie team is being trashed and held up to a much higher standard than the uber rich design companies.

They're an indie team trying to do something different - why all of the hate?

Blizzard could make Darkfall right now (with much cooler graphics/animations and a quality engine) if it wanted to, but they won't. They only want to make what will make them the most money, so they say "fuck creativity" in favor of cash.

That's fine, but it's not as admirable as the Darkfall team which is going with a risky niche game because it's a game they'd love to see - not because it's guaranteed money, which it obviously isn't.

And I'm not so naive to think that Adventurine doesn't want money too, but at least they're trying to do something different.

You are absolutely right in one way, and completely backwards wrong in the other. I agree that devs should always look to innovate, and push the genre further, but to say that Blizzard only makes things that they KNOW will make money is stupid.

Think back to when WoW released, what other games were out with the same systems that made WoW successful? EQ had the raiding end of it, but only people with 12 hours at a time were able to taste it (spawn camps, and the like). As far as I remember (and I played mostly all of the MMO's released back then) no other game at the time had a questing system like the one found in WoW. Also, there were NO other games out back then accesible to the more casual crowd. Now, if you were to say that Blizzard only adds things to WOW that they know will keep making them money then you are 100% right. They created the game , and now they just aim to keep the players they have, and continue giving them what they want.

Now, I don't think WoW is the perfect game, or even the perfect example of what an MMO should be but I don't go around shitting on Blizzard for making a game that people like. Darkfall's issues have nothing to do with WoW or fans of WoW (even though every single DF fanatic will scream "GO BACK TO WOW!!!" whenever someone says anything remotely negative). Where DF's problems stem from is poor PR, and a ridiculously long development cycle. They've been promising betas, releases, and content for years now and have delivered nothing so far. That is the reason things are the way they are, and nothing else. No one is to blame other than Adventurine, and more importantly Tasos...that guy should've been fired years ago.

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Originally posted by Ermac

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Originally posted by Locklain

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Originally posted by Staatsschutz

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Originally posted by harmonica

They're an indie team trying to do something different - why all of the hate?

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because this place is full of a lot of bitter no-lifers, who are frustrated that they cant get the feeling of the first days of mmo´ing back, and since they have literally nothing else in their life, no friends, no girl-friend, no hobbies, they must troll this place 24/7

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It never occurs to some people that some of us actually work in front of a computer for a living.  When there is nothing better to do at work I come here to remember why I lost faith in humanity . . .

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i come here to laugh at the trolls as they repeat their mantra "darkfall fanbois are cultists". funny one person says it and then soon everyone starts saying it. monkey see monkey do I guess or in this case monkey say monkey repeat lol. watch them grasp at the last few straws now knowing that DF IS what it promised and will be a great game for people that wanted FPS combat and a sandbox world.

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And I come here to laugh at the fanbois who repeat their angry words at anyone who gives the slightest question or any skepticism what-so-ever. Things like calling them "trolls", lol. Monkey see, Monkey do with the following of a new game with so little proof. All mindlessly believing every fukin word that their mighty Tasos spouts out, and shouting in anger and hate at anyone who dares question their mighty Tasos or gives links to all his untruths and lies over the years. Even after 2 delays the past months, and many leaks stating that this game is no where near ready for release with tons of bugs, lack of mobs and npcs, etc, etc... - you fans are grasping at straws not knowing what DF actually is, and believing only on blind faith, and faith alone in a game only desperate fools would still find any thing to believe in.

- Zaxx

Originally posted by Ermac

Originally posted by Locklain

Originally posted by Staatsschutz

Originally posted by harmonica

They're an indie team trying to do something different - why all of the hate?

 

because this place is full of a lot of bitter no-lifers, who are frustrated that they cant get the feeling of the first days of mmo´ing back, and since they have literally nothing else in their life, no friends, no girl-friend, no hobbies, they must troll this place 24/7

It never occurs to some people that some of us actually work in front of a computer for a living.  When there is nothing better to do at work I come here to remember why I lost faith in humanity . . .

 

i come here to laugh at the trolls as they repeat their mantra "darkfall fanbois are cultists". funny one person says it and then soon everyone starts saying it. monkey see monkey do I guess or in this case monkey say monkey repeat lol. watch them grasp at the last few straws now knowing that DF IS what it promised and will be a great game for people that wanted FPS combat and a sandbox world.

How do we now know that DF IS anything? Because you've played it?

People like you are the exact reason that fans of the game get labelled as cultists. If there actually WAS a cult for DF, you'd be there with bells on drinking as much koolaid as you could get your sticky fanboy hands on.

Mmmm Kool-Aid!

Originally posted by WOWthatsucks

Originally posted by harmonica

Originally posted by jy88902

Originally posted by harmonica

Not sure, but I think it's sad that an indie team is being trashed and held up to a much higher standard than the uber rich design companies.

They're an indie team trying to do something different - why all of the hate?

Blizzard could make Darkfall right now (with much cooler graphics/animations and a quality engine) if it wanted to, but they won't. They only want to make what will make them the most money, so they say "fuck creativity" in favor of cash.

That's fine, but it's not as admirable as the Darkfall team which is going with a risky niche game because it's a game they'd love to see - not because it's guaranteed money, which it obviously isn't.

And I'm not so naive to think that Adventurine doesn't want money too, but at least they're trying to do something different.

 

This is one of the most delusional, retarded, batshit insane pile of tripe I've ever read. Good job.

 

How is it batshit insane? Saying that I think it's nice to have a company trying to make an innovative game vs a company that is just trying to make the most mainstream game it can for mass appeal is crazy?

 

 

 

 

well they are also working on diablo 3.....give them a break... that games gonna kick @$$

O.K., I have to ask. Because I can't figure it out without being less than respectful.

Where the heck did this comment come from?