Originally posted by Triaxe

 My bet is Dec 8th on open beta

Yeah, I think it will be around december, a little bfore christmas... 15 december is my bet.. on 2015 ... 12 / 15 / 2015

Originally posted by Domenicus

Originally posted by Triaxe

 My bet is Dec 8th on open beta

Yeah, I think it will be around december, a little bfore christmas... 15 december is my bet.. on 2015 ... 12 / 15 / 2015

The same day WoW gets some decent and difficult content.

i realy want this game, but don't realy still belive on the launch =/

Well is is almost christmas and we have no proof the beta has started

Originally posted by Fodfod

Well is is almost christmas and we have no proof the beta has started

except for....all that proof we have that beta has started

Originally posted by Fodfod

Well is is almost christmas and we have no proof the beta has started

You was one of those who thought DF hides the  UI because there is no game..

You of no credibility..

DF has been in closed beta for what, 5 years now? Jeez they are testing the hell out of it.

Originally posted by Abrahmm

DF has been in closed beta for what, 5 years now? Jeez they are testing the hell out of it.

Right, game got better and better over time and over the last years..

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by Abrahmm

DF has been in closed beta for what, 5 years now? Jeez they are testing the hell out of it.

 

Right, game got better and better over time and over the last years..

And you base that on...what ?

Years

I think not

Guess again for a better answer.

Originally posted by sandboxy

Too bad neither of you got in. Naananananaa

 

 

 

 

(neither did I)

     Im not sure if anyone knows anybody that got in.......... Now watch there will be an open beta that lasts only a week and will only allow players to see certain parts of the world...... Sorry but if most of us dont get in open beta this game will fail miserably.......And no Im not paying some website like fileplanet to play open beta either.......

This is pathetic.  A month prior to "release" and nothing...

Aventurine's either on vacation, stupid, or both.  There really should be a shitload of information for me, each time I log on weekly.  I'm honestly glad I stopped frequenting these forums, it's all so depressing.

Think about it people...The most information we have gotten about this game in the last four months, is a 10-minute gameplay video that showcases no more than goblins.  Something's hidden.  That, or their PR is the absolute worst I've ever seen, which I doubt. 

Any company making something that they are hoping to cash in on, "will" publicize it feverently.  The fact that Aventurine's not, means Darkfall is likely in shitty shape.  But, I could be wrong and in a month's time Europe will have one of the greatest games in history... ~laugh~

Originally posted by TheHoweller

Aventurine's either on vacation, stupid, or both.

...publicize it feverently...

The first bit I kind of agree with... the second bit?  Pretty sure you just made that word up. :p

I really hope they're doing this whole "mysterious" thing on purpose - not setting expectations too high and what not.  Could be a perfectly viable strategy: keep expectations low and exceed them, then build a loyal fanbase by mostly word of mouth.  Less expensive marketing, anyway.

We shall see...

Originally posted by Bekkr

Originally posted by TheHoweller

Aventurine's either on vacation, stupid, or both.

...publicize it feverently...

 

The first bit I kind of agree with... the second bit?  Pretty sure you just made that word up. :p

I really hope they're doing this whole "mysterious" thing on purpose - not setting expectations too high and what not.  Could be a perfectly viable strategy: keep expectations low and exceed them, then build a loyal fanbase by mostly word of mouth.  Less expensive marketing, anyway.

We shall see...

 

No, he just had a typo while writing "fervently".

Originally posted by TheHoweller

This is pathetic.  A month prior to "release" and nothing...

Aventurine's either on vacation, stupid, or both.  There really should be a shitload of information for me, each time I log on weekly.  I'm honestly glad I stopped frequenting these forums, it's all so depressing.

Think about it people...The most information we have gotten about this game in the last four months, is a 10-minute gameplay video that showcases no more than goblins.  Something's hidden.  That, or their PR is the absolute worst I've ever seen, which I doubt. 

Any company making something that they are hoping to cash in on, "will" publicize it feverently.  The fact that Aventurine's not, means Darkfall is likely in shitty shape.  But, I could be wrong and in a month's time Europe will have one of the greatest games in history... ~laugh~

Or...

They know they don't have the infrastructure to handle more than 10-40k players at launch.  So, they have decided to just focus on a localized European launch and won't reach out to a broader subscription base until they have the hardware and/or support staff to be able to handle them.

At this point it's really only those two options:

• 1) The game is bad and they are trying to hide it.

or

• 2) The game is fine but they just don't have the hardware and/or support staff to handle 100,000+ players all trying to play at the same time. 

With some of the leaks I've seen from Beta Testers, I'm leaning towards #2.

If someone can think of a #3 that isn't a Troll or Fanboy option... I'm all ears. 

Originally posted by xzyax

At this point it's really only those two options:

• 1) The game is bad and they are trying to hide it.

or

• 2) The game is fine but they just don't have the hardware and/or support staff to handle 100,000+ players all trying to play at the same time. 

 

With some of the leaks I've seen from Beta Testers, I'm leaning towards #2.

I agree, it's definitely #2. i think they always planned to start small and grow; they are no EA or Activision and have the resources to start with 100 servers and a massive hype campaign.

Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by TheHoweller

This is pathetic.  A month prior to "release" and nothing...

Aventurine's either on vacation, stupid, or both.  There really should be a shitload of information for me, each time I log on weekly.  I'm honestly glad I stopped frequenting these forums, it's all so depressing.

Think about it people...The most information we have gotten about this game in the last four months, is a 10-minute gameplay video that showcases no more than goblins.  Something's hidden.  That, or their PR is the absolute worst I've ever seen, which I doubt. 

Any company making something that they are hoping to cash in on, "will" publicize it feverently.  The fact that Aventurine's not, means Darkfall is likely in shitty shape.  But, I could be wrong and in a month's time Europe will have one of the greatest games in history... ~laugh~

 

Or...

 

They know they don't have the infrastructure to handle more than 10-40k players at launch.  So, they have decided to just focus on a localized European launch and won't reach out to a broader subscription base until they have the hardware and/or support staff to be able to handle them.

 

At this point it's really only those two options:

• 1) The game is bad and they are trying to hide it.

or

• 2) The game is fine but they just don't have the hardware and/or support staff to handle 100,000+ players all trying to play at the same time. 

 

With some of the leaks I've seen from Beta Testers, I'm leaning towards #2.

If someone can think of a #3 that isn't a Troll or Fanboy option... I'm all ears. 

I've followed DF a little and watch all the videos ect and I think it number 2 as well. Each server is going to support only 10k people and since they are a very small company just breaking in they probably dont have the money and staff to watch more than 5-10 severs.

Originally posted by xzyax

Or...

 

They know they don't have the infrastructure to handle more than 10-40k players at launch.  So, they have decided to just focus on a localized European launch and won't reach out to a broader subscription base until they have the hardware and/or support staff to be able to handle them.

 

At this point it's really only those two options:

• 1) The game is bad and they are trying to hide it.

or

• 2) The game is fine but they just don't have the hardware and/or support staff to handle 100,000+ players all trying to play at the same time. 

 

With some of the leaks I've seen from Beta Testers, I'm leaning towards #2.

If someone can think of a #3 that isn't a Troll or Fanboy option... I'm all ears. 

#2 does not make any sense at all.  

They are an unknown group of developers and are probably 100% funded from investors.  If they can show there is a need for better hardware and more staff, then investors will give them it.

Note:  Need means the game will be more profitable

#1 is the only plausible answer in this case.

3) They really have no idea how to support a game like this on the anticipated scale of release and want very much to have plausible deniability as to why it doesn't work as well as it should.

26th of January and still no info

The correct answer is: They are still stress testing queue times, patching, connections, pings, mobs, assorted AI, bugs/glitches/exploits, and a few other things. Hence, closed beta for the features they are still implementing and fixing.

Originally posted by pewtpewt

The correct answer is: They are still stress testing queue times, patching, connections, pings, mobs, assorted AI, bugs/glitches/exploits, and a few other things. Hence, closed beta for the features they are still implementing and fixing.

Stress testing with less then 5K players and probably less then 2K? That is no stress test.

V:SoH had over 10K beta testers and never had more then 800 or so on at any one time. I am sure that this POS is the same or worse and there is no way that a few hundred or  thousand people could test "The largest world ever in an MMORPG"

We saw what a few thousand were able to test with DnL which actually was the largest world ever in an MMORPG and it turned out so good.

So I have to go with #1, it is a pile of crap that they are trying to hide.

They can not stress test there server(s) (??) with 5K players. They said cap is 10K for simultaneous players on a server. How can you stress test it with less than 5K (?) players ?

Something is not right. Since we dont know the exact numbers of testers, nothing too much to say.

Darkfall's current status is: COMPLETE BLOODY MESS

Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by TheHoweller

This is pathetic.  A month prior to "release" and nothing...

Aventurine's either on vacation, stupid, or both.  There really should be a shitload of information for me, each time I log on weekly.  I'm honestly glad I stopped frequenting these forums, it's all so depressing.

Think about it people...The most information we have gotten about this game in the last four months, is a 10-minute gameplay video that showcases no more than goblins.  Something's hidden.  That, or their PR is the absolute worst I've ever seen, which I doubt. 

Any company making something that they are hoping to cash in on, "will" publicize it feverently.  The fact that Aventurine's not, means Darkfall is likely in shitty shape.  But, I could be wrong and in a month's time Europe will have one of the greatest games in history... ~laugh~

 

Or...

 

They know they don't have the infrastructure to handle more than 10-40k players at launch.  So, they have decided to just focus on a localized European launch and won't reach out to a broader subscription base until they have the hardware and/or support staff to be able to handle them.

 

At this point it's really only those two options:

• 1) The game is bad and they are trying to hide it.

or

• 2) The game is fine but they just don't have the hardware and/or support staff to handle 100,000+ players all trying to play at the same time. 

 

With some of the leaks I've seen from Beta Testers, I'm leaning towards #2.

If someone can think of a #3 that isn't a Troll or Fanboy option... I'm all ears. 

With the announcement that Tasos made on Jan. 15th, we now know that Aventurine's official stance is that they were in the position of #2 from above. 
 

The reason I worded it to say that is Aventurine's official stance is because... the jury is still out on how true #1 is.

Aventurine could quell many doubts by dropping the NDA.  As long as the NDA stays up... that means that even Aventurine themselves is not ready to let the game speak for itself. 

Hopefully a few more months in development will allow them to put all the pieces together to give them the best opportunity to have a successful launch. 

They need to make sure it's ready no later than the end of this year.  Any later than that and their window of opportunity will have past them by.  There are a number of other MMOs with similar feature sets now approaching release. 

If DarkFall doesn't get their stuff together soon...

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