Originally posted by Vrazule

What's the point of adding new classes if they're just as boring as all of the rest.  What's the point of adding more captiol cities when they won't have an effect on the fundamentally boring and flawed gameplay that is WAR.

They would have to add and improve PvE play dramatically to even start to move onto the right track.  They would have to make all of their classes more engaging, fun and with a much wider range in skills (There should be a lot of skills that aren't only damage, healing and crowd control) which are currently two dimensional and boring.  They would need to triple the size of the world, allow for under water exploration and add points of interests that aren't just hubs for quests.

There are just too many fundamental flaws in the game to ever get me to come back unless they made truly radical changes.  So, in essence, 3.  None of the Above

Oh and just for the record neither the "additional" classes or the "additional" cities are actually "new" content. Its stuff that Mythic left out because they failed to complete the game on time. People keep forgetting that they are paying to beta test a majorly unfinished product. Its nearly half a year after release and the WAR fans think that the sun shines out of Mythics behind simply because they "might" add the missing content which should have been there in the first place.

Originally posted by neonwire

Originally posted by Vrazule

What's the point of adding new classes if they're just as boring as all of the rest.  What's the point of adding more captiol cities when they won't have an effect on the fundamentally boring and flawed gameplay that is WAR.

They would have to add and improve PvE play dramatically to even start to move onto the right track.  They would have to make all of their classes more engaging, fun and with a much wider range in skills (There should be a lot of skills that aren't only damage, healing and crowd control) which are currently two dimensional and boring.  They would need to triple the size of the world, allow for under water exploration and add points of interests that aren't just hubs for quests.

There are just too many fundamental flaws in the game to ever get me to come back unless they made truly radical changes.  So, in essence, 3.  None of the Above

 

Oh and just for the record neither the "additional" classes or the "additional" cities are actually "new" content. Its stuff that Mythic left out because they failed to complete the game on time. People keep forgetting that they are paying to beta test a majorly unfinished product. Its nearly half a year after release and the WAR fans think that the sun shines out of Mythics behind simply because they "might" add the missing content which should have been there in the first place.

The Slayer was NEVER, ever in Beta for us to test. It is completely new, not something they forget. We did get to test the Hammerer but it wasn't all that fun hence the cut of it. Don't speak of things in which you do not know.

Originally posted by Varking

Originally posted by neonwire

Originally posted by Vrazule

What's the point of adding new classes if they're just as boring as all of the rest.  What's the point of adding more captiol cities when they won't have an effect on the fundamentally boring and flawed gameplay that is WAR.

They would have to add and improve PvE play dramatically to even start to move onto the right track.  They would have to make all of their classes more engaging, fun and with a much wider range in skills (There should be a lot of skills that aren't only damage, healing and crowd control) which are currently two dimensional and boring.  They would need to triple the size of the world, allow for under water exploration and add points of interests that aren't just hubs for quests.

There are just too many fundamental flaws in the game to ever get me to come back unless they made truly radical changes.  So, in essence, 3.  None of the Above

 

Oh and just for the record neither the "additional" classes or the "additional" cities are actually "new" content. Its stuff that Mythic left out because they failed to complete the game on time. People keep forgetting that they are paying to beta test a majorly unfinished product. Its nearly half a year after release and the WAR fans think that the sun shines out of Mythics behind simply because they "might" add the missing content which should have been there in the first place.

 

The Slayer was NEVER, ever in Beta for us to test. It is completely new, not something they forget. We did get to test the Hammerer but it wasn't all that fun hence the cut of it. Don't speak of things in which you do not know.

thank you.  It is getting old how many times WAR haters spread lies and misinformation on the game.  It is time to give it a rest.
 

Originally posted by Varking

Originally posted by neonwire

Originally posted by Vrazule

What's the point of adding new classes if they're just as boring as all of the rest.  What's the point of adding more captiol cities when they won't have an effect on the fundamentally boring and flawed gameplay that is WAR.

They would have to add and improve PvE play dramatically to even start to move onto the right track.  They would have to make all of their classes more engaging, fun and with a much wider range in skills (There should be a lot of skills that aren't only damage, healing and crowd control) which are currently two dimensional and boring.  They would need to triple the size of the world, allow for under water exploration and add points of interests that aren't just hubs for quests.

There are just too many fundamental flaws in the game to ever get me to come back unless they made truly radical changes.  So, in essence, 3.  None of the Above

 

Oh and just for the record neither the "additional" classes or the "additional" cities are actually "new" content. Its stuff that Mythic left out because they failed to complete the game on time. People keep forgetting that they are paying to beta test a majorly unfinished product. Its nearly half a year after release and the WAR fans think that the sun shines out of Mythics behind simply because they "might" add the missing content which should have been there in the first place.

 

The Slayer was NEVER, ever in Beta for us to test. It is completely new, not something they forget. We did get to test the Hammerer but it wasn't all that fun hence the cut of it. Don't speak of things in which you do not know.

So they changed the class. The fact remains that the full complete game was supposed to have 6 races with 4 classes for each race.......so its still a misconception that Mythic are being generous to its players by giving them these "bonus" classes. They are simply going through the process of finsihing their incomplete product which its players are paying for.

You see a meal advertsied at McWarhammer cafe which offers sausage, eggs, bacon and chips. You ask to buy the meal and the cafe owner tells you beforehand that you can only have the eggs and the chips. The sausage and bacon will be given to you at some undisclosed time in the future after you have paid for the meal. The money will go to paying the wages for the guy who cooks the sausage and bacon. You dont really like this but its all the rage lately and everyone just accepts it. As your really hungry and there are no other cafes for miles around you accept and hand over the cash.

You take the half-meal away and munch on it for a very very long time. An hour goes by as you munch on your egg and chips (you're a VERY slow eater). They taste ok actually. Hmmm am I eating the full meal or did I pay for half a meal? I cant remember. Oh well I'll just carry on munching.

The cafe owner has a very special announcement to make. You look up with a feeling of excitement. What could it be? He tells you that he will soon be able to serve you a delicious sausage! What a pleasant surprise eh! That cafe owner is such a nice guy! Its not the same sausage that you originally ordered but thats ok.....because this "bonus" sausage looks great.

You vaguely remember ordering bacon too but you're not bothered about that anymore.....not after the brilliant news about the sausage. He just mumbles something about the bacon coming at some time later.....but thats ok because the sausage is on its way. Oh geez that cafe owner....what a nice fella

Originally posted by neonwire

Originally posted by Vrazule

What's the point of adding new classes if they're just as boring as all of the rest.  What's the point of adding more captiol cities when they won't have an effect on the fundamentally boring and flawed gameplay that is WAR.

They would have to add and improve PvE play dramatically to even start to move onto the right track.  They would have to make all of their classes more engaging, fun and with a much wider range in skills (There should be a lot of skills that aren't only damage, healing and crowd control) which are currently two dimensional and boring.  They would need to triple the size of the world, allow for under water exploration and add points of interests that aren't just hubs for quests.

There are just too many fundamental flaws in the game to ever get me to come back unless they made truly radical changes.  So, in essence, 3.  None of the Above

 

Oh and just for the record neither the "additional" classes or the "additional" cities are actually "new" content. Its stuff that Mythic left out because they failed to complete the game on time. People keep forgetting that they are paying to beta test a majorly unfinished product. Its nearly half a year after release and the WAR fans think that the sun shines out of Mythics behind simply because they "might" add the missing content which should have been there in the first place.

All mmorpg's are never completed at launch, tell me one mmorpg that delivered everything on day 1.

MMO's are a constant changing world (101 mmorpg).

Now if you are bitching because a company said that they promised something on release, well, the only mmorpg that came to my mind was Age of Conan and how it did'nt come with DirectX 10 capability at launch.

Originally posted by neonwire

Originally posted by Varking

Originally posted by neonwire

Originally posted by Vrazule

What's the point of adding new classes if they're just as boring as all of the rest.  What's the point of adding more captiol cities when they won't have an effect on the fundamentally boring and flawed gameplay that is WAR.

They would have to add and improve PvE play dramatically to even start to move onto the right track.  They would have to make all of their classes more engaging, fun and with a much wider range in skills (There should be a lot of skills that aren't only damage, healing and crowd control) which are currently two dimensional and boring.  They would need to triple the size of the world, allow for under water exploration and add points of interests that aren't just hubs for quests.

There are just too many fundamental flaws in the game to ever get me to come back unless they made truly radical changes.  So, in essence, 3.  None of the Above

 

Oh and just for the record neither the "additional" classes or the "additional" cities are actually "new" content. Its stuff that Mythic left out because they failed to complete the game on time. People keep forgetting that they are paying to beta test a majorly unfinished product. Its nearly half a year after release and the WAR fans think that the sun shines out of Mythics behind simply because they "might" add the missing content which should have been there in the first place.

 

The Slayer was NEVER, ever in Beta for us to test. It is completely new, not something they forget. We did get to test the Hammerer but it wasn't all that fun hence the cut of it. Don't speak of things in which you do not know.

 

So they changed the class. The fact remains that the full complete game was supposed to have 6 races with 4 classes for each race.......so its still a misconception that Mythic are being generous to its players by giving them these "bonus" classes. They are simply going through the process of finsihing their incomplete product which its players are paying for.

Who said they were generous, or ever labeled them as bonus classes? We are thanking them for adding back in things that couldn't make it. I don't think I have ever seen them listed or advertised as "bonus" classes. It seems you are throwing terms out there as your saving grace because your argument has been nulled. You can't bitch about people saying they were generous for doing this when we haven't. You can't bitch about them advertising them as "bonus" careers when that isn't how they are being advertised.

Seems you are the one with the misconception, not I. The fact remains that while the Choppa will not be a brand new career the players have never seen or tried, even in beta... The Slayer is.

I want chicken armor!

Originally posted by Vrazule

What's the point of adding new classes if they're just as boring as all of the rest.  What's the point of adding more captiol cities when they won't have an effect on the fundamentally boring and flawed gameplay that is WAR.

They would have to add and improve PvE play dramatically to even start to move onto the right track.  They would have to make all of their classes more engaging, fun and with a much wider range in skills (There should be a lot of skills that aren't only damage, healing and crowd control) which are currently two dimensional and boring.  They would need to triple the size of the world, allow for under water exploration and add points of interests that aren't just hubs for quests.

Instead of improving PvE content they should improve T4 RvR content, WAR was never meant to be a PvE centered game like WoW (which instead has horrible pvp content like arena being the main focus of the pvp in the game) so you obviously played the wrong game if PvE is your thing. And that the classes are boring is your opinion, there's many that find them fun to play.

Warhammer was never intended to be a PvP game only, but a balanced hybrid of PvP and PvE. It is infact posible to level by only doing PvP (Takes longer and you might miss out on some good loot) and PvE. So they need to focus on both of those areas of the game.

I prefer they would add those capitals. This would give you a few new missions to do, hopefully a few good instances poeple can play (Not only level 40 peeps!). Also they need to work on the RvR endgame, they need to fix the fortress sieges and make Orvr more fun in general and more competitive. Tier 1, 2 and 3 are pretty good, fun quests, good PQs and active fun Orvr. However instead of fixing tier 4 they want to make some PQs "easy" in every tier. So poeple can solo it or do it with a small group (2-4 poeple), completly distroying the intention of what a PQ is for.

They do not need to new cities or new classes.  They need to fix performance in Keeps and Forts, redesign the Keeps and Forts to get rid of the ramp of doom, and nerf Witch Elves in a major way.

Originally posted by Tnice

They do not need to new cities or new classes.  They need to fix performance in Keeps and Forts, redesign the Keeps and Forts to get rid of the ramp of doom, and nerf Witch Elves in a major way.

Yes, yes and yes.

As it stands fortress sieges are retarded. If a few casters and tanks have made it to the fortress lord, you may as well kiss your conquerer gear goodbye.

Kinda pathetic really that all of one EU server has even seen the Inevitable city.

Ps. Nerf WE.

alot of things need fixing in this game, and aot of things that were promised and still havent surfaced, we will see. and please do something about the forest trees in t2. huge fps dip there

Please fix bugs,exploits first. Revamp ORvR and scenarios, THEN add more content.

there is so much hate here i have an idea if you dont like the game dont troll in the forums like a loser who got their feelings hurt, its pathetic. anyways i hope they add the two other classes in first personally i think that they are more important than the cities. also if they keep patching it that will make me happy too

As long as they keep going down the PVP centric path the game is doomed to mediocrity.

Originally posted by todeswulf

As long as they keep going down the PVP centric path the game is doomed to mediocrity.

This makes no sense.  The game was sold on being a pvp game, if they strayed away from that the core of the users would quit.  I think a lot of people bought this game not knowing anything about what it is.  A lot of people started playing without knowing keeps were even in the game!  This is not your average mmorpg, I love it because it's straight PvP.  I hate instances and 6 man groups.  I want huge battles, which is what WAR is delievering.

Originally posted by todeswulf

As long as they keep going down the PVP centric path the game is doomed to mediocrity.

It's a PvP game. People play it Because it's a PvP game. PvP games happen to be a little more dynamic and exciting then PvE ones.

Also announcement soon!!!

I cannae wait!