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AsprnBtl

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Joined: 1/23/09
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1/24/09 6:07:31 PM#26

Those are some nice screenshots, its really coming along. The art style is growing on me too.

tkobo

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1/24/09 7:28:33 PM#27

Well, the art seems to be coming along nicely...

BUT id much rather see a detailed example of the story

Abrahmm

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1/24/09 7:32:43 PM#28
Originally posted by Label_This
Originally posted by Abrahmm

Oh my goodness, they included screenshots of non-jedi!

Anyway, I still think the art style looks like complete crap and nothing like Star Wars is or should be. /sigh

Sorry if you already know this but the Kotor era of star wars is set hundreds of years before Darth Vader and all that stuff so i think it has a decent excuse for looking different to the 'Star Wars' that many of us know about.

Thank you captain obvious, I am aware that this takes place **Thousands(not hundreds) of years before Darth Vader. I am also aware that they made a KotOR game before this one that looked more realistic and better than TOR, so, that actually gives it no excuse for having some terrible looking "comic" art-style that doesn't fit the Star Wars universe at all.

Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
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Midnitte

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1/24/09 7:42:53 PM#29


Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by Label_This

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Oh my goodness, they included screenshots of non-jedi!
Anyway, I still think the art style looks like complete crap and nothing like Star Wars is or should be. /sigh



Sorry if you already know this but the Kotor era of star wars is set hundreds of years before Darth Vader and all that stuff so i think it has a decent excuse for looking different to the 'Star Wars' that many of us know about.


Thank you captain obvious, I am aware that this takes place **Thousands(not hundreds) of years before Darth Vader. I am also aware that they made a KotOR game before this one that looked more realistic and better than TOR, so, that actually gives it no excuse for having some terrible looking "comic" art-style that doesn't fit the Star Wars universe at all.

Kotor 2 - TOR.
How exactly does TOR look cartoony or worse then KOTOR 2?


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Abrahmm

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1/24/09 7:45:38 PM#30
Originally posted by Midnitte

 


Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by Label_This

Originally posted by Abrahmm

 

Oh my goodness, they included screenshots of non-jedi!
Anyway, I still think the art style looks like complete crap and nothing like Star Wars is or should be. /sigh



Sorry if you already know this but the Kotor era of star wars is set hundreds of years before Darth Vader and all that stuff so i think it has a decent excuse for looking different to the 'Star Wars' that many of us know about.


Thank you captain obvious, I am aware that this takes place **Thousands(not hundreds) of years before Darth Vader. I am also aware that they made a KotOR game before this one that looked more realistic and better than TOR, so, that actually gives it no excuse for having some terrible looking "comic" art-style that doesn't fit the Star Wars universe at all.

 

Kotor 2 - TOR.
How exactly does TOR look cartoony or worse then KOTOR 2?

 

You can start with the terrain texturing. Notice how KotOR 2(which wasn't even made by Bioware so I don't know why you are comparing that one to TOR) has realistic looking textures on terrain and objects, while TOR looks like it was hand drawn on(because it was, they already said that). Also notice how in TOR every object has an excessive shine to it in places it shouldn't.

 

Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.

TowlieFTW

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1/24/09 8:24:16 PM#31
Originally posted by Abrahmm
Originally posted by Midnitte

 


Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by Label_This

Originally posted by Abrahmm

 

Oh my goodness, they included screenshots of non-jedi!
Anyway, I still think the art style looks like complete crap and nothing like Star Wars is or should be. /sigh



Sorry if you already know this but the Kotor era of star wars is set hundreds of years before Darth Vader and all that stuff so i think it has a decent excuse for looking different to the 'Star Wars' that many of us know about.


Thank you captain obvious, I am aware that this takes place **Thousands(not hundreds) of years before Darth Vader. I am also aware that they made a KotOR game before this one that looked more realistic and better than TOR, so, that actually gives it no excuse for having some terrible looking "comic" art-style that doesn't fit the Star Wars universe at all.

 

Kotor 2 - TOR.
How exactly does TOR look cartoony or worse then KOTOR 2?

 

You can start with the terrain texturing. Notice how KotOR 2(which wasn't even made by Bioware so I don't know why you are comparing that one to TOR) has realistic looking textures on terrain and objects, while TOR looks like it was hand drawn on(because it was, they already said that). Also notice how in TOR every object has an excessive shine to it in places it shouldn't.

 

 

LOL! Kotor 2 was defintily made by BioWare, so was 1.  I agree I dont like where their going with the art style in this game, but I can suck it up if it is a good game.

Anireth

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Joined: 1/28/05
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1/24/09 9:15:55 PM#32

KotoR II was made by Obsidian Entertainment, known for Neverwinter Nights 2. They have a close relation to Bioware, but it is technically a different company.

About ToR: I don't think i will play it, i don't like most MMOs that much, and the idea of paying that much even less..but i think the visuals are fine. Bioware was never known for stunning graphics, just for nice.

And i think thats better. More people will be able to play it with less requirements. And usually, when i look at games known for outstanding visual 5 or 10 years later, i think "whoah, thats just horrible", while when i look at a game from the same year which aimed for beatiful, detailed, but not "never seen before" visuals i think "sure, a bit dated, but no reason not to play it".

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Noktaris

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1/25/09 2:04:26 AM#33

I also love the artist style of the game...Looks kind of like Kotor but with a splash of color and a little more cartoon like.

paintchips

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Joined: 2/06/06
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1/25/09 6:32:07 AM#34

Art Style makes this game look like CoH/CoV with a new graphic update with nerf guns and lightsabers thrown in. The graphics aint bad but the heroic body proportions looks a little lame, the male toons look like body builders. Just aint screaming Star Wars.

Saorlan

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1/25/09 10:59:35 AM#35

 Those graphics look utterly shite.

Also this game is hardly adding anything to the MMO genre. The same shitty point and clicky combat...not thanks. What we need is a FPS style Starwars game.

lornj

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1/25/09 12:04:44 PM#36

im personally a huge fan of the graphics in lord of the rings. these grahpics look decent enough to garner my attention to play the game. my huge selling point is character customization at the start of the game. if they do a realy good job and include a bunch of options to customize your character at start, then ill probably be sold.

singsofdeath

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1/25/09 12:10:34 PM#37
Originally posted by TowlieFTW
Originally posted by Abrahmm
Originally posted by Midnitte

 


Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by Label_This

Originally posted by Abrahmm

 

Oh my goodness, they included screenshots of non-jedi!
Anyway, I still think the art style looks like complete crap and nothing like Star Wars is or should be. /sigh



Sorry if you already know this but the Kotor era of star wars is set hundreds of years before Darth Vader and all that stuff so i think it has a decent excuse for looking different to the 'Star Wars' that many of us know about.


Thank you captain obvious, I am aware that this takes place **Thousands(not hundreds) of years before Darth Vader. I am also aware that they made a KotOR game before this one that looked more realistic and better than TOR, so, that actually gives it no excuse for having some terrible looking "comic" art-style that doesn't fit the Star Wars universe at all.

 

Kotor 2 - TOR.
How exactly does TOR look cartoony or worse then KOTOR 2?

 

You can start with the terrain texturing. Notice how KotOR 2(which wasn't even made by Bioware so I don't know why you are comparing that one to TOR) has realistic looking textures on terrain and objects, while TOR looks like it was hand drawn on(because it was, they already said that). Also notice how in TOR every object has an excessive shine to it in places it shouldn't.

 

 

LOL! Kotor 2 was defintily made by BioWare, so was 1.  I agree I dont like where their going with the art style in this game, but I can suck it up if it is a good game.

 

KOTOR 2 was made by Obsidian. Learn your gaming history. :)

 

BioWare refused to do KOTOR2 since LA apparently tried to muscle their way into the production process too much. Least that's what I heard of the reason. not sure, but fact remains, Obsidian Entertainment made KOTOR 2, not BioWare.

Midnitte

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1/25/09 12:13:46 PM#38


Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by TowlieFTW

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by Midnitte

 



Originally posted by Abrahmm


Originally posted by Label_This


Originally posted by Abrahmm
 
Oh my goodness, they included screenshots of non-jedi!
Anyway, I still think the art style looks like complete crap and nothing like Star Wars is or should be. /sigh



Sorry if you already know this but the Kotor era of star wars is set hundreds of years before Darth Vader and all that stuff so i think it has a decent excuse for looking different to the 'Star Wars' that many of us know about.



Thank you captain obvious, I am aware that this takes place **Thousands(not hundreds) of years before Darth Vader. I am also aware that they made a KotOR game before this one that looked more realistic and better than TOR, so, that actually gives it no excuse for having some terrible looking "comic" art-style that doesn't fit the Star Wars universe at all.


 
Kotor 2 - TOR.
How exactly does TOR look cartoony or worse then KOTOR 2?


 
You can start with the terrain texturing. Notice how KotOR 2(which wasn't even made by Bioware so I don't know why you are comparing that one to TOR) has realistic looking textures on terrain and objects, while TOR looks like it was hand drawn on(because it was, they already said that). Also notice how in TOR every object has an excessive shine to it in places it shouldn't.
 


 
LOL! Kotor 2 was defintily made by BioWare, so was 1.  I agree I dont like where their going with the art style in this game, but I can suck it up if it is a good game.


 
KOTOR 2 was made by Obsidian. Learn your gaming history. :)
 
BioWare refused to do KOTOR2 since LA apparently tried to muscle their way into the production process too much. Least that's what I heard of the reason. not sure, but fact remains, Obsidian Entertainment made KOTOR 2, not BioWare.

Still remains a KOTOR game and the graphics were improved from 1 to 2, and TOR definitly looks better, if being hand drawn on means cartoony then M. C. Escher was a fantastic cartoonist.


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spdkilla

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1/25/09 12:25:03 PM#39
Originally posted by Label_This

I'm becoming excited in my pants. Makes me wanna go mount Kotor2 in daemon tools and play for a bit!

 

LOL   ..... and TMI

 

---But seriously not bad and i like and still play COX  so there (sticks out tounge and goes neener, neener)

--On a sidenote i do hope they use some of the graphic effects from SW: The Force Unleashed some of those are awesome.

Souvec

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1/25/09 5:36:08 PM#40

The art, detail and attention to executing the style throughout from landscape to characters is amazing.  Personally I feel for those who enjoy this kind of style will be pleasently pleased.  Unfortunately, from a personal stand-point it just doesn't capture the feel of what I think Star Wars is.

Excellent art, and I look forward to seeing how the world is built in such a style, just not my cup of chocolate milk.

TeranHawkins

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1/25/09 9:08:38 PM#41

Man I can't WAIT for TOR!!!!!  I'm now not playing ANY mmo's for the first time since 2003 and THIS is the ONE game I'm jonesing for!!!

tkreep

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1/25/09 9:32:23 PM#42
Originally posted by Saorlan

 Those graphics look utterly shite.

Also this game is hardly adding anything to the MMO genre. The same shitty point and clicky combat...not thanks. What we need is a FPS style Starwars game.

How do you know its point click combat?  The devs even said dont think of mmo, think of console actions games in terms of combat. 

DrChicken

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1/25/09 9:39:29 PM#43

I cannot say that I like the particular art direction BioWare is taking TOR in. I was hoping for a more dark, imposing, and maybe more realistic (as far as the Star Wars universe is concerned) design. Does anyone find these screenies to be a little, if not completely, cartoonish?

thecreatrix

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1/25/09 9:54:00 PM#44

It looks like concept art that came to life. I like it. The real test is how much atmosphere they can pull off. If it's anything like the classic (single player) Jedi Knight games, it'll be a winner.

Jason

tmr819

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1/26/09 11:05:20 AM#45

The shots look very good, imo. If this game turns out as well as I suspect it will -- AND -- is more affordable than WoW, I think it's going to offer some real competition to WoW in the MMO market.

Deathstrike2

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1/26/09 11:08:13 AM#46
Originally posted by DrChicken

I cannot say that I like the particular art direction BioWare is taking TOR in. I was hoping for a more dark, imposing, and maybe more realistic (as far as the Star Wars universe is concerned) design. Does anyone find these screenies to be a little, if not completely, cartoonish?


 

Not me.  I think they look great!

 

karat76

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1/29/09 5:33:54 PM#47

I can live with the graphics. I just want something I can enjoy that isn't the normal fantasy type.

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