Originally posted by trajan22

i wait a few months until the bugs are fixed, the trial period runs out and the reviews have been published.  then i make the decision as whether or not to buy a game.

Heh...then I am one that thinks your a poor judge of game-development with your crowing about the smooth launch of AoC when in fact there was a mass exodus of players from that poorly launched game.  It is a perfect example of a game that should have been delayed 3 months until the dev's actually implemeneted the content.

I'll pre-order if I get enough info about the game. If I don't get into testing (which i probably won't) I hope they get rid of the NDA so people can make video's and whatnot.
 

Then I'll pre-order.

Hey I have a great idea for you then...DON"T PRE-ORDER IT.

 

pretty simple. dunno why you feel the need to mount a crusade against it. let people who want preorder do it. no skin off your back.

I just answered the guys question. I didn't make the thread, you fanboys did. You can pre-order it, but you guys turn into more trolls than us supposed "haters". More like we see facts and post from there. You guys post a thread basically saying you have to pre-order to be smart and you don't expect us to bring logical facts saying why it will most likely tank?

Yes definatley let's preorder a game with no hands on info beside close family and friends of the game. There's 80% of the posters here against pre-ordering and you wonder why? The only trolls here are you guys. Should stick to forumfall game.

Originally posted by Sarg01

Originally posted by Ghostwise

Yeah! Preorder so when the servers crash on day 1 you can be locked out for a few days like everyone else do to the overload. Seems to me Adventurine is ill prepared for what is coming to them. Like most mmo's these days.

 

Some people can't read between the lines - even when the lines state exactly what is going on. Aventurine has been very clear that they don't think they can handle the load of people. They've actually said they might have to have a "staggered" release. It's one of the two main reasons given why there haven't been external reviews of the game. They clearly don't *want* any more interest until they can get some money and put up more servers to accomodate that interest. I'd say given their posts, that it's their number one concern at the moment.

 

Unfortunately, the haters on this site and others would try to use a complete admission of that as a reason why the game sucks, so they can't put it in so many words.

Wow you sure know how to read people! Did I ever say I hated the game? No didn't think so. I'm looking forward to it. I do however feel that it is going to be a monumental distaster come day 1. Give it a few months until after it releases and it may be all squared away. Not very comforting when a company knows they can't support the incoming playerbase. Kind of pathetic really when it comes to an MMORPG. Just goes to show that Adventurine kind of doesn't seem to know what they are doing unfortunately. :(

Originally posted by loxleynew

Hey I have a great idea for you then...DON"T PRE-ORDER IT.

 

pretty simple. dunno why you feel the need to mount a crusade against it. let people who want preorder do it. no skin off your back.

 

I just answered the guys question. I didn't make the thread, you fanboys did. You can pre-order it, but you guys turn into more trolls than us supposed "haters". More like we see facts and post from there. You guys post a thread basically saying you have to pre-order to be smart and you don't expect us to bring logical facts saying why it will most likely tank?

 

Yes definatley let's preorder a game with no hands on info beside close family and friends of the game. There's 80% of the posters here against pre-ordering and you wonder why? The only trolls here are you guys. Should stick to forumfall game.

moron.

Where in any of my posts did I show my opinion of this game? you are assuming.

once again

If you don't like what you see DON'T PREORDER THE GAME.

simple as that man. it will not hurt you at all, none of your money is gone. so why do you insist on yelling at those that want to waste their money? what business is it of yours how they spend there money? this is a pretty simple concept here.

but simple minds....

The days of people sitting by in silence while others make poor decisions are over.

Originally posted by Ghostwise

Originally posted by Sarg01

Originally posted by Ghostwise

Yeah! Preorder so when the servers crash on day 1 you can be locked out for a few days like everyone else do to the overload. Seems to me Adventurine is ill prepared for what is coming to them. Like most mmo's these days.

 

Some people can't read between the lines - even when the lines state exactly what is going on. Aventurine has been very clear that they don't think they can handle the load of people. They've actually said they might have to have a "staggered" release. It's one of the two main reasons given why there haven't been external reviews of the game. They clearly don't *want* any more interest until they can get some money and put up more servers to accomodate that interest. I'd say given their posts, that it's their number one concern at the moment.

 

Unfortunately, the haters on this site and others would try to use a complete admission of that as a reason why the game sucks, so they can't put it in so many words.

 

Wow you sure know how to read people! Did I ever say I hated the game? No didn't think so. I'm looking forward to it. I do however feel that it is going to be a monumental distaster come day 1. Give it a few months until after it releases and it may be all squared away. Not very comforting when a company knows they can't support the incoming playerbase. Kind of pathetic really when it comes to an MMORPG. Just goes to show that Adventurine kind of doesn't seem to know what they are doing unfortunately. :(

My statement wasn't targetted at you, it was in commiseration with you. You seemed to realize that the demand is a problem for Aventurine and I was concurring with you and noting that others can't see what's right in front of them sometimes.

The second paragraph about the hater response was intended to show why it is Aventurine can't just say "we need you to pre-order, even though we originally thought that wouldn't be necessary. We ran out of funding when credit dried up early last year and we announced a 2008 release date because we knew we wouldn't have the money to launch in 2009. However, we didn't get the game finished in time and are pushing the launch out just as far as we possibly can, so we desperately need you to finance the servers for full launch."

Originally posted by Meher

The days of people sitting by in silence while others make poor decisions are over.

But evidently the days of you creating multiple accounts to trash a game is still going strong. "Mehen" lasted a whole day before "Meher" was created, huh?

I don't like to do it but i'm not going to pre-order nor to buy the game at launch because i'm not confortable with the information i have about the status of Darkfall.

I don't like it because i allways thought that the first months where people need to lear the game, find out all the info and so are the best ones (I dont care that much about bugs and random crashes as far as they are not game breakers).  But this time i'll pass. May be NDA lifted and a bit of communication from AV could change my mind.

Originally posted by Cik_Asalin

Originally posted by JK-Kanosi 

MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW

Currently Playing: WoW & LoTRO

 

Not that Im opinionated, and this goes for many others I'd think who lean toward PvE-centric games (not all folks), but this game (Darkfall) wont appeal to you.  You have way too much an appreciation based on your proudness and investment in those style games to appreciate the player-centric nature of Darkfall.

 

And I assume that anyone that has a join date within the last quarter or so is nothing more than a troll, hiding from being identified with their original mmorpg.com account.

Really? I won't even get into this argument, because chances are you're ignorant and not worth the trouble. Suffice to say that I've played FFA PvP sandbox games and loved them.

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Originally posted by Vutar

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Originally posted by Mehen

If the current beta testers lack the ability to anonymously post SS and Vids, how well are they testing the game?

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You didn't hear?  Aventurine shoots all its beta testers after they log out to keep things quiet.  I'm sure that has been posted here somewhere.

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0_o

Two people who clearly can't think.

Regardless of it being true or false that testers can't anonymously post SS or vids, by not doing that they have more time devoted to testing, not less time as you infer.

Originally posted by ZtyX

1: this is not the real world. This is a limited world... we're not even paying anything close to what customers pay in the real world. .. You think customers who pay 15+50 dollars get any saying on any product irl? And then even get support with that. Jeez. Your whole argument is flawed and completely incomparable.

2: I am not interested in towers. I am interested in Darkfall. An mmorpg. A RARE mmorpg belonging to a kind that only comes out rarely. .. This is a break from cookie cutter wow clones and generic  anime games. This deserves a chance.

 

So dont compare this to real life. Sales of used cars or something else stupid.

Flawed arguments are so annoying. You just don't keep the bigger picture in mind, guys. Think about it for a second and stop being such hypocrits.  You're trolling yourself when you troll Darkfall. You guys dont realize this is one of the very few games, if not the ONLY game that has the balls to try something that noone else dares to.

He is right, Darkfall fanboys they live in another world, not  the real world where people use their brains lol.

Nothing the OP said makes any sense at all. These peolpe are delusional and it seems as though their whole life is revolving around this game, it's pathetic.

Originally posted by khameleon

Originally posted by ZtyX

1: this is not the real world. This is a limited world... we're not even paying anything close to what customers pay in the real world. .. You think customers who pay 15+50 dollars get any saying on any product irl? And then even get support with that. Jeez. Your whole argument is flawed and completely incomparable.

2: I am not interested in towers. I am interested in Darkfall. An mmorpg. A RARE mmorpg belonging to a kind that only comes out rarely. .. This is a break from cookie cutter wow clones and generic  anime games. This deserves a chance.

 

So dont compare this to real life. Sales of used cars or something else stupid.

Flawed arguments are so annoying. You just don't keep the bigger picture in mind, guys. Think about it for a second and stop being such hypocrits.  You're trolling yourself when you troll Darkfall. You guys dont realize this is one of the very few games, if not the ONLY game that has the balls to try something that noone else dares to.

 

He is right, Darkfall fanboys they live in another world, not  the real world where people use their brains lol.

Nothing the OP said makes any sense at all. These peolpe are delusional and it seems as though their whole life is revolving around this game, it's pathetic.

the irony in this post is rediculous.

the irony in this post is rediculous.

You're so angry at the world. You just need to calm down. The game is not out and there is no real information. You need to stop insulting people and realize the facts.

Originally posted by ZtyX

Do preorder this game.

 

It only costs a few dollars and you get to actually play the game when it finally releases after all this time.

It would be stupid not to preorder. It's your right not to. But, I definitely don't recommend it.

besides. if you pre-order you also give them more money so they can set up more servers, run the game for a longer time if it turns out to get into difficulties.

You even get to play the game for like a week or so prior to the release. I think that's pretty neat.

 

But, hey!.. If you don't preorder it just means that somebody else will. :) I know I will preorder within the first hour of those news. If I see it. I hope I do. .. I just wanna get in and give this game a chance. 

 

No matter what happends with Darkfall, it's still the most daring and visionary game out there. I think we all deserve to give it a real chance and treat it well. Cause we've been bitching for years and we keep complaining. Now Darkfall is coming around to save us. Finally. .. let's show some gratitude.

 

I know I will.

Be a smarter consumer.

 

And you get to invest in the largest vapourware practical joke in history!
 

Originally posted by loxleynew

the irony in this post is rediculous.

 

You're so angry at the world. You just need to calm down. The game is not out and there is no real information. You need to stop insulting people and realize the facts.

huh?? I am not angry. I am calm.

I have never said my opinion on this game yet everyone thinks they know what I think.

People on both sides need to stop being such idiots about this game.. its a game people.

Originally posted by Sarg01

Originally posted by Meher

The days of people sitting by in silence while others make poor decisions are over.

 

But evidently the days of you creating multiple accounts to trash a game is still going strong. "Mehen" lasted a whole day before "Meher" was created, huh?

Heh...so true.  Again...kiddies creating trolling accounts.

Originally posted by Mehen

Or....based on the way this company goes about business, the free world should boycott them.  In the free world, lack of communication leads to disaster.  How can any person support a company that forbids communication?  Evidently thse people live in a world where "The Man" controls "The People"...and you support this.

I don't understand you people at all.

Just because "so many companies" before Aventurine has released "so much information", why in the hell should they? They are a private company that can go about business any way they want. We have the beta leaks that shed positive information on the game, and we have screen shots and game play videos.

Why in the HELL should Aventurine give us anymore information if they don't want to?

Just because the game hasn't released yet does NOT mean they are "required" or "bound" to give out massive amounts of information. Tasos himself has stated in almost every interview when asks certain questions about the game that he wants the players to find out for themselves. Why in the HELL would they release the NDA so all the "Thottbot" World of Warcraft informational database clones can create another one for Darkfall? I think they want everyone to have to search and discover things on their own.

Originally posted by Cik_Asalin

Originally posted by Sarg01

Originally posted by Meher

The days of people sitting by in silence while others make poor decisions are over.

 

But evidently the days of you creating multiple accounts to trash a game is still going strong. "Mehen" lasted a whole day before "Meher" was created, huh?

 

Heh...so true.  Again...kiddies creating trolling accounts.

I think because the "kiddies" are getting a little scared about the potential of a huge Darkfall success that would in turn flood the market with skill based and non-theme park MMOs in the future.

I have way to much time on my hand .........lets see now..............what to say.............

Sorry the other hand is busy......

Originally posted by ZtyX

Do preorder this game.

 

It only costs a few dollars and you get to actually play the game when it finally releases after all this time.

It would be stupid not to preorder. It's your right not to. But, I definitely don't recommend it.

besides. if you pre-order you also give them more money so they can set up more servers, run the game for a longer time if it turns out to get into difficulties.

You even get to play the game for like a week or so prior to the release. I think that's pretty neat.

 

But, hey!.. If you don't preorder it just means that somebody else will. :) I know I will preorder within the first hour of those news. If I see it. I hope I do. .. I just wanna get in and give this game a chance. 

 

No matter what happends with Darkfall, it's still the most daring and visionary game out there. I think we all deserve to give it a real chance and treat it well. Cause we've been bitching for years and we keep complaining. Now Darkfall is coming around to save us. Finally. .. let's show some gratitude.

 

I know I will.

Be a smarter consumer.

 

Do us and the rest of the world a favor, go play in traffic blind folded during rush hour.

Originally posted by Mehen

Or....based on the way this company goes about business, the free world should boycott them.  In the free world, lack of communication leads to disaster.  How can any person support a company that forbids communication?  Evidently thse people live in a world where "The Man" controls "The People"...and you support this.

If you had a clue , I may even bother with this post just let me laugh and laugh and laugh.

I wonder why I am laughing.

If Aventurine needed more money, they would advertise more. Aventurine wants to play their secrecy game in a market known for creating hype, so be it. Aventurine doesn't have a very good track record so far, which doesn't help them to gain trust from their fanbase.

There has been shady MMOs before *cough* Dark and Light *cough* and as our once great leader once said, "Fool me once..... shame on you..... a fooled man can't get fooled again"

Originally posted by toddze

Originally posted by ZtyX

Do preorder this game.

 

It only costs a few dollars and you get to actually play the game when it finally releases after all this time.

It would be stupid not to preorder. It's your right not to. But, I definitely don't recommend it.

besides. if you pre-order you also give them more money so they can set up more servers, run the game for a longer time if it turns out to get into difficulties.

You even get to play the game for like a week or so prior to the release. I think that's pretty neat.

 

But, hey!.. If you don't preorder it just means that somebody else will. :) I know I will preorder within the first hour of those news. If I see it. I hope I do. .. I just wanna get in and give this game a chance. 

 

No matter what happends with Darkfall, it's still the most daring and visionary game out there. I think we all deserve to give it a real chance and treat it well. Cause we've been bitching for years and we keep complaining. Now Darkfall is coming around to save us. Finally. .. let's show some gratitude.

 

I know I will.

Be a smarter consumer.

 

 

Do us and the rest of the world a favor, go play in traffic blind folded during rush hour.

Glad you showed us either your maturity or your age.

Again, it's becoming quite obvious the kind of people insistent on bashing a not-yet-released game.

Who cares anymore? Every new update by Adventurine just brings either false, or dashed hopes.

 Fans and haters alike should just leave this piece of shit alone.