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Congratulations LoTRO!! Very well deserved win! |
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Zorgo
Advanced Member
Joined: 12/05/05
Who did wrong? The advertiser hired to sell the game or the consumer who put faith in advertising? |
Originally posted by John.A.Zoid
People most ABSOLUTELY play WoW for convenience. Myself included. If you don't have a nice computer, WoW is more convenient than upgrading. If you don't want the hassle of endless bugs, WoW is more convenient. If you want a lexicon of knowledge about every single aspect of your game with a simple google search, wow is more convenient. If you want to find a guild that caters to your individual preferences (roleplay, same time zone, casual, hardcore) WoW's healthy population makes it the most convenient. Almost everything about WoW's success is about the convenience it brings. The debate is whether you think that's a good thing or a bad thing. WoW is absolutely McDonald's. And I tell you what, I stop by McDonald's a lot more than the Russian Tea Room. _______________________________ But sorry for going off topic. Grats to the Russian Tea Room, well deserved this year! |
Originally posted by Zorgo
People most ABSOLUTELY play WoW for convenience. Myself included. If you don't have a nice computer, WoW is more convenient than upgrading. If you don't want the hassle of endless bugs, WoW is more convenient. If you want a lexicon of knowledge about every single aspect of your game with a simple google search, wow is more convenient. If you want to find a guild that caters to your individual preferences (roleplay, same time zone, casual, hardcore) WoW's healthy population makes it the most convenient. Almost everything about WoW's success is about the convenience it brings. The debate is whether you think that's a good thing or a bad thing. WoW is absolutely McDonald's. And I tell you what, I stop by McDonald's a lot more than the Russian Tea Room. _______________________________ But sorry for going off topic. Grats to the Russian Tea Room, well deserved this year!
None of that has anything to do with convenience but just points that make a good mmorpg..........
You don't go for a lunch break off work and go "I need to play a mmorpg" no you're hungry and want to eat and Mc donalds is easy and there and doesn't taste that bad. It isn't a nice Thai meal or anything posh but it's fast food that tastes ok so you go there. You play games to play a GOOD game and WoW is a GOOD game and thats why people play it. You don't go "well this game is shit but because it is easy I'll play it" no you spend your tome playing a game that is good, that you like. That is why you the Mc Donalds and games argument is dumb |
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Originally posted by John.A.Zoid
None of that has anything to do with convenience but just points that make a good mmorpg..........
You don't go for a lunch break off work and go "I need to play a mmorpg" no you're hungry and want to eat and Mc donalds is easy and there and doesn't taste that bad. It isn't a nice Thai meal or anything posh but it's fast food that tastes ok so you go there. You play games to play a GOOD game and WoW is a GOOD game and thats why people play it. You don't go "well this game is shit but because it is easy I'll play it" no you spend your tome playing a game that is good, that you like. That is why you the Mc Donalds and games argument is dumb I agree. I regard anyone who makes the WoW=MacDonald's argument as partially retarded and therefore not worth listening to. |
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wow you guys are being harsh lo i see his mcdonaalds analagy, in the sense that WOw= mc because basically it caters to a whole hella lot more people then the sushi bar down the road sushi= lotro, many other great deep indepth games with a true story arc.
Some lead and some follow I prefer to stand beside! |
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Grats Turbine for another good win
as far as wy they won. I know a few people here who dont play the game (but have played it at least once in the past) who, when faced with this option voted by weighing up whether game A was better than game B. They did not just vote for the MMO that they currently play. I have a feeling this is why Lotro edged out EvE and WoW as i know plenty of people who accept that it is a good MMO but do not actively play it. Originally posted by Cyborg99 |
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Grats Turbine, lotro, well deserved |
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Zorgo
Advanced Member
Joined: 12/05/05
Who did wrong? The advertiser hired to sell the game or the consumer who put faith in advertising? |
Originally posted by Ginaz
None of that has anything to do with convenience but just points that make a good mmorpg..........
You don't go for a lunch break off work and go "I need to play a mmorpg" no you're hungry and want to eat and Mc donalds is easy and there and doesn't taste that bad. It isn't a nice Thai meal or anything posh but it's fast food that tastes ok so you go there. You play games to play a GOOD game and WoW is a GOOD game and thats why people play it. You don't go "well this game is shit but because it is easy I'll play it" no you spend your tome playing a game that is good, that you like. That is why you the Mc Donalds and games argument is dumb I agree. I regard anyone who makes the WoW=MacDonald's argument as partially retarded and therefore not worth listening to. Can you guys actually read? Or comprehend what you are reading? My God, you are so angry you don't know when someone is on your side or not. Now cut this off topic junk out, it isn't always about WoW. |
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Ascension08
8.jpg) Novice Member
Joined: 3/12/08
"Silence is golden, duct tape is silver, but the White Border of Darkfall rules over all!" |
Hehe looks like it just beat out WoW, however, this award is well deserved. While the game itself may not be balanced between PvE and PvP, the PvE and lore being much better, I think Turbine is a solid, good company and they made an absolutely beautiful world, one that I actually think looks better than AoC (I always thought the AoC trees were ugly and the character models looked like plastic action figures. While LotRO's character models need some improvement as well, they at least seem a bit more real, especially with the facial expressions. More like play-doh than plastic if you will!) Good job LotRO. -------------------------------------- Order of the White Border. |
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bravo! the movie is great. the game world is also fantastic! i look forward to its new improvement. |
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Originally posted by Ginaz
And what universe are you from? A much, much larger percentage agrees that WoW is a better game, somewhere in the neighbourhood of 11 million to 250k. Online polls like this are pointless. They just bring out people who are motivated to vote for this type of stuff anyway. All anyone has to do is look at the NHL all star vote to know what a complete joke online polls are. So congrats to the people who are LOTRO fans and crowing about it, thinking this means anything. Once again, it just goes to show that sites like this aren't representative of the average mmo player. All that aside, LOTRO is still a very good game with a good developer behind it that more often then not gives its players good value for their money. BTW, I didn't see swg in the list at all.
That. The shills stuff the ballots while gamers vote with their wallets. |
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Im gonna be really cheap and ask if a Mines of Moria trial is planned? wanna check out the new classes |
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Originally posted by Zorgo I agree. I regard anyone who makes the WoW=MacDonald's argument as partially retarded and therefore not worth listening to. Can you guys actually read? Or comprehend what you are reading? My God, you are so angry you don't know when someone is on your side or not. Now cut this off topic junk out, it isn't always about WoW. I'm not angry, just tired of people comparing WoW to MacDonald's, in any way. Its getting old and tired. People find to need a new way to make WoW comparisons. Be original. |
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Simple solution rathar than argue is to play the game you like.
And then vote for the game you like next year.
To bad all those "11 million" WoW players missed the boat on voting, but then again maybe MMORPG.com is banned in china or doesnt translate well into chinese (shrug).
Now move along and accept that this game was voted as such, defeat is a tough dish to swallow. |
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Another NAIL in the credibilaty coffin of mmorpg-ihatewow.com A laugh is that 5300 people voted on a WORLD wide web site. My local football club Sparta Zemst has more votes when they organise a poll on the www. And our local team always manages to win the poll of best club ....ahead of duds like Manchster United and Real Madrid. +5000 votes for such a website make me laugh. Keep it up Stradden. MMORPG.COM is the laughing stock of the industry. I HATE WOW, yeah, so lets vote for the best boring lifeless copy cat clone of it.
Look Zorndorf lost a star again. ;)) The inconvenient linked truth hurts on mmorpg.com |
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Originally posted by Zorndorf
Lifeless copy cat clone... are you talking about WoW? If anything Lotro copies Asheron's Call 2 in everything from UI, throught world design, engine, combat, thousands of quests, tons of solo content, no death penalty,.... And If I recall it right AC2 was way before WoW was released. If your analogy is right then WoW is actually that lifeless copy cat clone of AC2. |
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Originally posted by Ginaz Actually I'd never heard the comparison, lol it is a good one :) |
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Originally posted by Steelrose
Lifeless copy cat clone... are you talking about WoW? If anything Lotro copies Asheron's Call 2 in everything from UI, throught world design, engine, combat, thousands of quests, tons of solo content, no death penalty,.... And If I recall it right AC2 was way before WoW was released. If your analogy is right then WoW is actually that lifeless copy cat clone of AC2. Good God. Elvis and The Beatles were not the first ones either, but they were the first to put out the millions. They were the Kings in their genre (despite of Bill Haley and dozens of others). You are speaking of the king of MMORPG's. I say that Zork started it all. And LotrO is indeed a boring lifeless copy cat of that King because it was published 3 years later without any added value. But they couldn't copy the underwater worlds, the flying, the siege artillery, the world changing parts in its end game and still got the price because of ... 600 votes with alts on a world wide website. 600 votes on a website that is the laughing stock of the hobby at the moment. Grtz like I said : a nail in the credibility coffin of MMORPG.COM.
Look Zorndorf lost a star again. ;)) The inconvenient linked truth hurts on mmorpg.com |
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*lol* WoW is just Britney Spears, another "It's all done before and at least as well" game from Blizzard, but I reckon that is just what their fanboys want. It is the King of MMOs in the la-la-land where Michael Jackson is the prince of pop. Looks like players of some other titles can take the result of voting far better than WoW fans *tips hat off in the general direction of EVE*. Sour grapes for sore losers Playing: LotRO, EvE |
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Originally posted by Zorndorf Good God. Elvis and The Beatles were not the first ones either, but they were the first to put out the millions. They were the Kings in their genre (despite of Bill Haley and dozens of others). You are speaking of the king of MMORPG's. I say that Zork started it all. And LotrO is indeed a boring lifeless copy cat of that King because it was published 3 years later without any added value.
No that is WoW. WoW had no additional or original features. If you can name me one, I can change my mind. Because everything from battlegrounds, leveling solo content, no death penalties, combat, crafting.. was done in AC2 the same way. WoW just brought 40 mil$ into marketing before release which was more than the whole Lotro development. That's why Lotro initially sold maybe 400 copies and WoW like 2 milion (during first 3 months). Even AoC, WAR spent much more on marketing and ad than Lotro -> therefore their sales numbers went up to 1 mil cca. That's the power of marketing and adv, if you dont believe in it, you're dumb no offense. Not every company has so much money to spend on adv like Blizzard. Turbine is much smaller company. |
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Originally posted by Steelrose Good God. Elvis and The Beatles were not the first ones either, but they were the first to put out the millions. They were the Kings in their genre (despite of Bill Haley and dozens of others). You are speaking of the king of MMORPG's. I say that Zork started it all. And LotrO is indeed a boring lifeless copy cat of that King because it was published 3 years later without any added value.
No that is WoW. WoW had no additional or original features. If you can name me one, I can change my mind. Because everything from battlegrounds, leveling solo content, no death penalties, combat, crafting.. was done in AC2 the same way. WoW just brought 40 mil$ into marketing before release which was more than the whole Lotro development. That's why Lotro initially sold maybe 400 copies and WoW like 2 milion (during first 3 months). Even AoC, WAR spent much more on marketing and ad than Lotro -> therefore their sales numbers went up to 1 mil cca. That's the power of marketing and adv, if you dont believe in it, you're dumb no offense. Not every company has so much money to spend on adv like Blizzard. Turbine is much smaller company.
The King of MMORPG is Wow - like it or not. Because of the sheer PAYED subscription number. Just like Elvis or the Beatles were the first to hit the millions in rock and roll and British pop music. LotrO came out 3 years AFTER the King was launched and brought NOTHING new. Where are the flying mounts in LotrO, Where are the underwater worlds? Where are the Siege battles, where are the Catapults and destructable Keeps. Where is the constant phasing and changing worlds depending on the quest you do in Lotro. NADA. Nothing nowhere to be found. Not even fishing was in it before this year. 600 people on a world wide website that voted with alt accounts just made mmorpg.com looks like a fool these days.
Look Zorndorf lost a star again. ;)) The inconvenient linked truth hurts on mmorpg.com |
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Originally posted by Zorndorf
No that is WoW. WoW had no additional or original features. If you can name me one, I can change my mind. Because everything from battlegrounds, leveling solo content, no death penalties, combat, crafting.. was done in AC2 the same way. WoW just brought 40 mil$ into marketing before release which was more than the whole Lotro development. That's why Lotro initially sold maybe 400 copies and WoW like 2 milion (during first 3 months). Even AoC, WAR spent much more on marketing and ad than Lotro -> therefore their sales numbers went up to 1 mil cca. That's the power of marketing and adv, if you dont believe in it, you're dumb no offense. Not every company has so much money to spend on adv like Blizzard. Turbine is much smaller company.
The King of MMORPG is Wow - like it or not. Because of the sheer PAYED subscription number. Just like Elvis or the Beatles were the first to hit the millions in rock and roll and British pop music. LotrO came out 3 years AFTER the King was launched and brought NOTHING new. Where are the flying mounts in LotrO, Where are the underwater worlds? Where are the Siege battles, where are the Catapults and destructable Keeps. Where is the constant phasing and changing worlds depending on the quest you do in Lotro. NADA. Nothing nowhere to be found. Not even fishing was in it before this year. 600 people on a world wide website that voted with alt accounts just made mmorpg.com looks like a fool these days.
Heh mate, again no offense. But you're fanatically insane :) Just as you named these things, I could name you 10 other things Lotro has and WoW doesn't. Which actually proves these games are not that similiar. If you say it's a king of MMO, then I wonder why are other wow fanboys so pissed when WoW is being called McDonald or Britney (King of fast foods, king of popmusic,...) If the term king is only referred to.. how many people are subscribed to it, then indeed you can't avoid being compared to everything else in the world which is being the most popular in its genre. |
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Originally posted by Zorndorf
Umm if you really believe that all of those were originally by Blizzard, I have a bridge in New Mexico to sell you, and it takes you to a wonderful fairy land by the sea. |
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Originally posted by Oakdragon
Umm if you really believe that all of those were originally by Blizzard, I have a bridge in New Mexico to sell you, and it takes you to a wonderful fairy land by the sea. I think you will find that is just a copy of a WoW bridge, fairy land and sea. In fact nothing existed before WoW! But seriously I tried both and neither game was to my tastes, but it was pretty obvious Lotro was different and IMO the better MMO, even if I could see why WoW is so popular. Similar to how I can see how a soap opera gets large audiences, but I still find them painful to watch. |
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I would like to thank this thread for showing what kind mentality people supporting different games possess. As such I can conclude, that if I ever wanted to play a fantasy MMO it should be LotR and stay far far away from WoW. Maybe the bitterness comes from too much raiding to get better gear to able to raid to get better gear to be able to raid to get better gear to be able to raid to get better gear ad nauseam. |
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