I'll believe it when I see it. Enough said.

     Whats the point in arguing all this stuff now...wait for open beta and dropping of NDA then let both sides have at it.......At this point nothing has happened but a release date....We have alot less info on DF than we ever did on AoC or WAR a month before release so that cant be a good thing.....It still seems like they are hiding something.

forums.darkfallonline.com/announcement.php

So, I don't mean to be stupid...but explain this part:

"The European release date for Darkfall is January 22nd, 2009.

The game is not available for general download or purchase."
 

Does that mean the game won't be available for general download or purchase on Jan. 22nd or just that it's not available until Jan. 22nd?  I guess I'll believe it when it happens, too.

Originally posted by pamkhat

forums.darkfallonline.com/announcement.php

So, I don't mean to be stupid...but explain this part:

"The European release date for Darkfall is January 22nd, 2009.

The game is not available for general download or purchase."
 

Does that mean the game won't be available for general download or purchase on Jan. 22nd or just that it's not available until Jan. 22nd?  I guess I'll believe it when it happens, too.

You seem me not a stupid one so i can help you and point out for you how you could read  that quote...

Imagine a Q&A  and imagine those letters in red be the questions

"

Q: When will DarkFall release  ? 

A : The European release date for Darkfall is January 22nd, 2009.

Q: Couldn't find  a download link or a button to preorder . Where can i download or purchase the game ?

A: The game is not available for general download or purchase.

"

Is this the launch of the beta or the actual full game

I can't imagine a Box of DarkFall at my local Store. Sorry. I'm european and i won't see that DF anywhere, but I'll check it out at Jan, 22.

I'm kinda confused too though - because they said that the Euro launch is Jan. 22, and the game is not available for DL or general purchase, yet "NA players are welcome to participate" (or something very close to that, sorry don't have time to find the exact quote).

So, what? NA players can play if they have a friend in Euro who wants to buy and mail them a copy of the game? As for my situation, I'm from NA, currently living in South Korea. So I'm tryna figure out exactly how I'm getting a copy of this game, and when.

I've never seen a game, any game, so close to launch not offer any sort of pre-order on ANY of the major video game purcashing sites.

Oh well, watching the fan boys drool over this vaporware is very enjoyable.

I too am mystified by the ambiguous release plans for Darkfall.

It will apparently be released on Jan. 22nd in Europe only. They say NA players are welcome to participate, even though there's no digital distribution planned and there won't be physical copies in game stores Stateside?

This all seems highly suspicious to me. Making your game difficult for people to purchase seems like a terrible business plan, but I guess we'll see what happens comes Jan. 22.

don't call it vaporware until it comes out.  Its like shouting surprise if you were anne frank.  Everyones just going to shoot you down.  Including me, you dumb fuck.

Originally posted by zelldevil

don't call it vaporware until it comes out.  Its like shouting surprise if you were anne frank.  Everyones just going to shoot you down.  Including me, you dumb fuck.

Holocast jokes are not funny, not even a bit.

Uh, what the hell are you crackheads going on about?  There will be a digital distribution for this game, that is sort of the entire point of allowing the NA players access to the EU servers.  There isn't a pre-order purchace for the game because they feel such business models are unethical, and they've consistently stated their opposition to expecting customers to pay for a product that isn't even finished or available yet.  They also have said they will allow an extensive free trial for everyone to use (no stupid buddy pass system) upon release, so nobody is expected to 'take a chance' with this game, and will have the opprotunity to know precisely what they are spending their money on.

What would you vapor trolls say if I told you I know with 100% certaintly that there are people currently playing beta as we type?  For their sake and out of respect for Aventurine I'm not going to say anything more about that, but I'll enjoy coming back here to tease you idiots who had nothing better to do than pretend the whole game was some elaborate prank after it releases.

Originally posted by zelldevil

don't call it vaporware until it comes out. 

How the hell does that work?

DnL released too and promised great and wonderful things also, I'll hold judgement on DF until it releases.

I want Darkfall to take away the horrible WoW taste MMORPGs got, but I also want to have Salma Hayek as my sexual friend.

im geting it.. 90% chance that its going to suck but still..

Originally posted by mrw0lf

Originally posted by zelldevil

don't call it vaporware until it comes out. 

 

How the hell does that work?

I was wondering that, too!  It made me giggle. 

Originally posted by Signe

Originally posted by mrw0lf

Originally posted by zelldevil

don't call it vaporware until it comes out. 

 

How the hell does that work?

 

I was wondering that, too!  It made me giggle. 

If you call it vaporware when it does come out then you will be tagged as a troll....

And if you call it vaporware when its not out, you will be tagged a troll anyway....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product. The term implies unwarranted optimism, an as yet unannounced abandonment of a project, or sometimes even deception; that is, it may imply that the announcer knows that product development is in too early a stage to support responsible statements about its completion date, feature set, or even feasibility. However, most vaporware would not be considered a hoax since the makers have a genuine intention to create their product, even if it ultimately never materializes. Products with unspecified release dates or long development times that outwardly demonstrate regular, verifiable progress in production are not normally labelled vaporware.

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Vaporware

Main Entry:
va·por·ware Listen to the pronunciation of vaporware
Pronunciation:
\?v?-p?r-?wer\
Function:
noun
Date:
1984

: a computer-related product that has been widely advertised but has not and may never become available

There are a lot of things that make DF vaporware to people...

Originally posted by stayontarget

Originally posted by Signe

Originally posted by mrw0lf

Originally posted by zelldevil

don't call it vaporware until it comes out. 

 

How the hell does that work?

 

I was wondering that, too!  It made me giggle. 

If you call it vaporware when it does come out then you will be tagged as a troll....

And if you call it vaporware when its not out, you will be tagged a troll anyway....

If there is any game that deserved to get trolled right now, DF is definitely it..

Nothing will get released on the 22nd.   If something ever get released anyway, it would be Dark and Light 10x worse.

Originally posted by Aguitha

Nothing will get released on the 22nd.   If something ever get released anyway, it would be Dark and Light 10x worse.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 

Originally posted by antiherozero

Uh, what the hell are you crackheads going on about?  There will be a digital distribution for this game, that is sort of the entire point of allowing the NA players access to the EU servers.  There isn't a pre-order purchace for the game because they feel such business models are unethical, and they've consistently stated their opposition to expecting customers to pay for a product that isn't even finished or available yet.  They also have said they will allow an extensive free trial for everyone to use (no stupid buddy pass system) upon release, so nobody is expected to 'take a chance' with this game, and will have the opprotunity to know precisely what they are spending their money on.

What would you vapor trolls say if I told you I know with 100% certaintly that there are people currently playing beta as we type?  For their sake and out of respect for Aventurine I'm not going to say anything more about that, but I'll enjoy coming back here to tease you idiots who had nothing better to do than pretend the whole game was some elaborate prank after it releases.

If you say you know 100% its being played right now...then i dont know you and have no reason to doubt you, so ill take your word for it.

of all the things posted on these forums all us 50 - 50s want to hear is things like that. yes people could lie, but so what? they know they are lying too so theres no point they would just be proving all the skeptics right. If honest people say it's being played then ill take thier word for it.

With my beleifs everyone starts out with respect..some gain more some lose it. i am no god and dont put myself on a pedestal, so no one ever has to earn respect to me.

I know one thing, the white border was launched at the main web site.

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by Itachi54

I love this game,but...

have any of you actually played it?NO? So how do you all know its ready for release?

I don't think they even have the box designed yet, you can't even preorder it

They likely aren't doing pre orders, as pre orders are just a big market scam you've been buying into for years.

 

Also, plenty of people have played the game... in fact a great number of people. 

 First my apologies in advance if I'm necro'ing this thread. it is only alittle over a month old but I think it well shows The Fans reaction to the Jan 22nd DF launch date anouncement. If you take the time to read through the whole thing you see the "In your face trolls DF's coming out on the 22nd!"" No Pre-orders", etc etc etc hype that fans bought into, and now just alittle over 1 month later were proven incorrecrt. You'll notice many so call trolls in this thread, warned the game wasn't released yet. Had anyone stated then that DF would not even have a open beta going, and would be taking pre-orders come the 22nd. These same fans IMHO would have gone balistic.

  While I hope i don't get banned for this. (and at the very least expect to be flamed) I do think its a interesting read considering the facts we currently have and sheds some light perhaps on the fans willingness to accept the Devs word at face value.

Originally posted by winter

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by Itachi54

I love this game,but...

have any of you actually played it?NO? So how do you all know its ready for release?

I don't think they even have the box designed yet, you can't even preorder it

They likely aren't doing pre orders, as pre orders are just a big market scam you've been buying into for years.

 

Also, plenty of people have played the game... in fact a great number of people. 

 

 First my apologies in advance if I'm necro'ing this thread. it is only alittle over a month old but I think it well shows The Fans reaction to the Jan 22nd DF launch date anouncement. If you take the time to read through the whole thing you see the "In your face trolls DF's coming out on the 22nd!"" No Pre-orders", etc etc etc hype that fans bought into, and now just alittle over 1 month later were proven incorrecrt. You'll notice many so call trolls in this thread, warned the game wasn't released yet. Had anyone stated then that DF would not even have a open beta going, and would be taking pre-orders come the 22nd. These same fans IMHO would have gone balistic.

  While I hope i don't get banned for this. (and at the very least expect to be flamed) I do think its a interesting read considering the facts we currently have and sheds some light perhaps on the fans willingness to accept the Devs word at face value.

 

Are there really and fans left though?  The only one I can think of ist he gu ywho types lik ethis.