Stumbled upon this gem while exploring the interwebz. It has to do with the darkfallonline forum community.

http://my.mmosite.com/ajthebaka/Blog/Item/ebfb55a84ec80adbf1bb542b7ecc7d7f.html

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"As of late I've been keeping up on Darkfall Online news, from what I've seen, heard, read, it has many of the qualifications I've wanted in an MMORPG. With a combat system similar to Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, a politics and crime and punishment system run by the players, and many different choices in character customization and building and the prevention of gimping your character and being forced to reroll in place, it's all I'll need for years to come. I still, however, have one issue with Darkfall, and it's not with the game itself, no, it comes from the FORUMS.

Darkfall has a simply appalling community, and when someone hears me say that a community has such a trait they believe that I am stating that the community is filled with a bunch of 14 year old trolls and 8 year old kids filled with blissful ignorance. Well, every community has those, including Darkfall, but you won't be having problems with them. The most obvious and horrid part of the community are the people that think they KNOW IT ALL, and "all" usually being defined as video game knowledge. The game isn't even released yet, and people are acting as if they're already "pros" at the game because they've been a member on the darkfall forum for over 9000 years, GOSSIPING and SPECULATING on the game. Whenever the admins, devs, anyone of similar standing tosses them a fresh zebra corpse labeled "gameplay information", the forum members will pick each and every piece off the corpse and shred it apart to observe every last chunk of meat, then worship it and take the meanings so literal as if it were the Bible. They will share their own deviated meanings of the post and argue over it while calling each other immature names, then claiming they're 25 years old and have 2 kids (Which usually ends up being a lie, however most of those forum members are adults and it's simply pitiful that they act like that).

Playing any MMORPG other Ultima Online or Shadowbane and saying even the simple fact that you ENJOYED it, such as World of Warcraft or basically anything free to play, automatically gets you the title of "Noob" amongst the community. They will then proceed to bash your game without any real evidence on their claims other than the first five minutes of gameplay or three screenshots, and then they will compare it to Darkfall which, may I remind you, they have not even played, mainly due to the fact that IT'S NOT EVEN OUT, and the closed beta testers are not allowed to reveal any sort of game information that hasn't already been released, and at most they will only clarify confusion on those information topics.

They will also claim that since they have been gaming longer than you, they will wipe the floor with you. That's right, since they've been playing games since the dawn of Pac-Man, they will be better than you at a game they never played. They also claim they will be better than you because they've played FPS games and have experience in open PvP fully-lootable-player-corpse games, they will be better than you at a game with basically completely new gameplay mechanics (Sure, they'll have an EDGE, but it's basically just getting your paycheck three days before everyone else. On Friday, you all still have your paychecks). Also, since they have been on the Darkfall FORUMS longer than you, they will be able to two-shot you on sight on the first day of release. That's right, you even get a special nickname amongst the community for having a forum account created in 2008, because for some reason it's as bad as being a bastard child with a drug addiction and whom dropped out of first grade.

There is a sub-forum titled "Newcomer's Discussion", likely created by the admins and mods in an attempt to appease the asshats by separating forum discussion between new members and old members. However, in the end, this formula failed drastically. Not only will forum members from both sides go in to each others' subforums constantly, but if you make a post in the Newcomer's Discussion asking a vague question that had been answered in some thread buried under hundreds of years of sediment and fossilized noob (Which for some odd reason they expect you to search for them all, read through them all thoroughly, and have enough understanding on the game so you could win a round of Jeopardy if the category was Darkfall), you will likely get 20 replies from the "pros" calling you out and then proceeding to use every sort of offensive sexual or racial name they can think of (And the post may or may not have an answer, and the answer may or may not be extremely wrong and sarcastic), especially if you ARGUE with them on something (Because remember, they're pros at ULTIMA ONLINE).

E-peens have grown longer than this article, heads have inflated bigger than a disproportional chibi's, and any kind of morals, etiquette, and principles are discarded by most Darkfall forum users. Do not take this article the wrong way, I am not speaking of EVERY Darkfall forum user and oldbie, but I believe it's about time the Moderators and Admins started doing some cleaning-up, even breaking out the dusty ban-hammer, because trust me, they're in dire need of it. Even if Darkfall is an adult game, and the forums are therefore for an adult game, it gives the members no reason to act the way they do.

*****IN SHORT***** Whenever I read a controversial thread on those forums, I feel like I'm in the MMOsite front page comments.

I will update as I see fit, if I feel like an edit needs to be made or if I've left off an important point that needs to be amended on. And do not let the community stop you from playing Darkfall! In this case, the good definitely outweighs the bad."

Well the forums and in game are two different things, but I agree 100% the forums are ridiculous.  Even moderators have stated if they had their way the join date would be removed.  It is like a badge of superiority over there in some peoples minds.

It's almost like you have to sign up for an account and wait at least 4 months to post on it to even be recognized as a member of the community.

Again though these people have been on the forums for a long time waiting for this game so what do you expect from a person like that.  In game will be different though because everyones join date is about to become 0.

What a pathetic attempt to discredit Darkfall. As if every MMO doesnt have loud obnixious people trolling the forums. If you actually stayed on the DF forums for any amount of time, you would see that the community on the whole is great. (restless, but overall good).

I agree that everything in that forum review is true, i guess i just disagree that its a bad thing.  With the arise of the MMO into the mainstream (this is something Everquest and WoW did), a set formula seems to have been established on how to MMO's should play.  (Quest, Grind, Raid, instanced PVP, *blech*).  Some people played games that came out earlier.  UO, AC1, and the various MUDs all had different styles of play.  With the arise of the new generation of online games, these old games have changed or died.  There is a section of the community that longs for the games of old.  Much like a religion they hope, pray, and have faith in a glorious return of this old style of play. 

 The community feels threatened.  Trolls come to the forums and claim Darkfall is vaporware (its like telling a priest that there is no God).  Trolls say that Darkfall won't work and needs to be carebearized.  The Darkfall community cannot except that.  They need to respond, to defend their beliefs and strike down the non believers who seek to change their religion. 

The long period of development has caused the game to be jokingly referred to as Forumfall.  The community is restless.  In 2008, if you joined the same year, your opinion was discounted as you had not spent enough time in devotion to be considered a serious voice.  The year changes.  Now the 2009ers are low on the totem poll and 2008ers have gained some measure of respect.  And so it goes. 

The community isn't that bad, much better than WoW, WoWhammer, or Age of WoWnan forums.  However, this is only true if you are consistent with the message Darkfall brings.  Talk about restricting freedom and you will be ostrocized.  Talk about wanting to be able to full loot someone and throw their gear in the ocean and you will be respected.

Darkfall is coming, we shall all be saved!

Originally posted by jakojako

"As of late I've been keeping up on Darkfall Online news, from what I've seen, heard, read, it has many of the qualifications I've wanted in an MMORPG.

Originally posted by strongaxe

What a pathetic attempt to discredit Darkfall. As if every MMO doesnt have loud obnixious people trolling the forums. If you actually stayed on the DF forums for any amount of time, you would see that the community on the whole is great. (restless, but overall good).

pathetic indeed :p

Originally posted by strongaxe

What a pathetic attempt to discredit Darkfall. As if every MMO doesnt have loud obnixious people trolling the forums. If you actually stayed on the DF forums for any amount of time, you would see that the community on the whole is great. (restless, but overall good).

Have had an account on their forums under my game name (not this one so don't waste the time looking) since they were Razorwax and guess what, you are full of crap. That place is a cesspool and it looks like every reject from DnL moved over to DnF.

He never tried to discredit DnF (didn't need to, it has done it by itself these last 7 years), he totally described the sycophantic fawnbois that are over there though.

Originally posted by Gnomad

Originally posted by strongaxe

What a pathetic attempt to discredit Darkfall. As if every MMO doesnt have loud obnixious people trolling the forums. If you actually stayed on the DF forums for any amount of time, you would see that the community on the whole is great. (restless, but overall good).

 

Have had an account on their forums under my game name (not this one so don't waste the time looking) since they were Razorwax and guess what, you are full of crap. That place is a cesspool and it looks like every reject from DnL moved over to DnF.

He never tried to discredit DnF (didn't need to, it has done it by itself these last 7 years), he totally described the sycophantic fawnbois that are over there though.

Cesspool haha. Dramatic much?  The darkfall forums are a great source of entertainment.  Trolls are dealt with harshly, and so is ignorance.  But really if a few insults and japes are what you consider a "cesspool" i think you need  thicker skin.   I would even label these forums as more of a "cesspool", with rabid fanbois running around trolling other games.  But in reality something like the Chan websites are what I would consider "cesspools".

I'm a huge fan of the Darkfall concept and have been following it for years.

The OP hit the nail right on the head. The forums are a cesspool.

I try to jump in when I can and answer in newcomers before the jackals attack.

To be fair to the forum posters there have been a lot of trolls. The trolls have been going for five years. I think some have lost perspective.

The game looks great though, I don't think even 5% of those interested in the game are regular forum posters.

Sounds like somebody who went to Darkfall forum and got a load of abuse.  I can sympathise that they should not insult people.  However some of these guys have been playing video games ever since they existed.  People who have done this have seen everything before and they know what they like and what works in a game.  It's maybe not what he likes but it is what they like and he is on their forum talking their about game, what does he expect?  It's like going to a vintage car owners meeting and spouting shit about how great the new Ford Pinto is.  They won't agree and you will get some ribbing over it.

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Originally posted by strongaxe
What a pathetic attempt to discredit Darkfall. As if every MMO doesnt have loud obnixious people trolling the forums. If you actually stayed on the DF forums for any amount of time, you would see that the community on the whole is great. (restless, but overall good).
Hilarious.
You've gone beyond the point of being full of cr@p with this one

It's like going to a vintage car owners meeting and spouting shit about how great the new Ford Pinto is. They won't agree and you will get some ribbing over it.

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Edit: Oh yeah. And all the groups are mad because another new guy asked the same question at last weeks meeting, and you didn't flip through the meeting minutes to catch it (or did, and missed it under the constant deluge).

There's more to this than meets the eye.  As much as some of us might want a FFA game with full loot, we know all too well what type of people will come in at the start.

As much as I can tolerate being beaten fair and square by a mature competitive player (in a serious guild), I'm not sure I'd have the inclination to be facing the roving immature ganking squads whose sole purpose is to grief other players instead of revelling in the RvR aspect of the game -- which they should be doing if the actual setting of the game mattered to them -- and who then add insult to injury by being rude in chat.

I've read about those in Shadowbane and Pirates of the Burning Sea -- and I've seen a few first-hand when I played those games.  There wasn't an exploit they wouldn't resort to if they could wreck the game mechanics and get an advantage out of it.  Manners? You must be joking.  You're a loser and a failure -- you don't deserve respect, even though their own victory was usually far from the most remote definition of "challenging".

When I see them post here and in the Darkfall forums, I think I have a reason to be worried.  For all the respectful people over there, there's ten guys who compensate for the absence of the game by indulging in forum PvP at its dirtiest.

FFA PvP with full loot and a deep RvR struggle is fine -- it's the pricks it attracts that aren't.

Some people need to grow some thicker skin, QQ , and deal with it.

It is what it is.

Once you stop being so butthurt, take a look around, and you will find it all quite ammusing.

this thread is very true.

but asking the mods to step up is bad, the moderaters themselves have the same attitude as the community.