Yay, Mines of Moria, well deserved! I play for the community, beautiful game design and vistas, fun class gameplay and the epic story.  A few things need to be tweaked. Like a seperate holding bag for you extra legendaries. But for the most part I have been overjoyed with with MoM. Already looking forward to the first area expansion, Lothlorien (Full area).

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Originally posted by qombi
I think the expansion was okay but they really lack at least one big long raid. They really didn't provide that much content compared to other MMORPGs, it looks like a lot it being a smaller game though.

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Originally posted by jmh1981

 

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Originally posted by qombi
I think the expansion was okay but they really lack at least one big long raid. They really didn't provide that much content compared to other MMORPGs, it looks like a lot it being a smaller game though.

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Just wanted to post in response to this that a lot of people may have missed it (and for all I know the plan may have been changed now) but the first free Book update, Book 7, is supposed to include both the new region of Lothlórien and a 6 boss raid with supporting instances. If I remember the quote from the MoM beta forums right.

 

Hey how dare you going and peaking my interest! You know times are tough and money is tight, now I may have to subscribe again soon. : P

congrats turbine they definitly deserved to win this award. very good expansion to an already very fun and polished game

Grats Turbine. Well deserved. Wish all the bent out of shape WOW players weren't such sore losers, and yes I agree that I have a feeling if the results were different that all these people saying that MMORPG's awards aren't really big would be singing a different toon if Lich King had won. WOW. Just picked up on something Witch King and Lich King. Go ahead and make a comment about how LOTR is a WOW clone. Double Dog dare ya. LOL.

Originally posted by duwat1982d

Grats Turbine. Well deserved. Wish all the bent out of shape WOW players weren't such sore losers, and yes I agree that I have a feeling if the results were different that all these people saying that MMORPG's awards aren't really big would be singing a different toon if Lich King had won. WOW. Just picked up on something Witch King and Lich King. Go ahead and make a comment about how LOTR is a WOW clone. Double Dog dare ya. LOL.

Grats turbine!

Honestly people we all now these things depend on the amount of your fans that vote on it, so lets just drop it, its just an award its not gonna change the future lol.

Originally posted by JK-Kanosi

With just under 4k votes casts for this award, it shows how little read this website is by the majority of MMO players in the genre. I mean hell, 4k people is almost what DAoC has active on a daily basis.

So I take these awards with a grain of salt, because these rewards don't represent what the majority think or what professionals think like most serious awards.

I honestly though mmorpg.com was read by a much wider playerbase than it really is, but I guess we all can't be right all the time. It's a good thing I'm trying to only come here for updates on MMO's in general now, because that's something the mmorpg.com staff is pretty good at keeping us up-to-date on.

I really apologize to those who will read my post and get bent out of shape over it, but look at this from my point of view. I looked forward to these awards to see what the majority of MMO player out there thought about the game. I've viewed these awards for a few years now. Only now I've noticed that less than .01 % of all MMO players out there actually voted on these rewards. Knowing that less than .01% of the MMO population voted for the rewards, how special do these nominations really mean to people now?

 

Well, I don't think people can blame you for having an opinion, especially since you stated it clearly without embellisment.

But to be honest I think the idea that Turbine has one 3 of these awards speaks volumes for this site as it seems that this site tends to be skewed more toward the pvp/sandbox crowd.

But again, this is not to give Turbine a trophy or or monetary award. Anyone who came to this site within the alotted time could have voted.

It's just a bit of recognition. Do people dislike Turbine or their work? Sure. But if WoW or Eve would have won you would have seen equal posts as to how those games didn't deserve it.

How many "wow is the antichrist" posts pop up on this site? Or "who can play eve, it's a gankfest version of Excel that puts me to sleep"

Everyone has their favorites and everyone has their reasons. It just so happens that this time around a good many people felt that Turbine deserved this modest bit of recognition.

Originally posted by Scalebane

Originally posted by duwat1982d

Grats Turbine. Well deserved. Wish all the bent out of shape WOW players weren't such sore losers, and yes I agree that I have a feeling if the results were different that all these people saying that MMORPG's awards aren't really big would be singing a different toon if Lich King had won. WOW. Just picked up on something Witch King and Lich King. Go ahead and make a comment about how LOTR is a WOW clone. Double Dog dare ya. LOL.

 

Grats turbine!

Honestly people we all now these things depend on the amount of your fans that vote on it, so lets just drop it, its just an award its not gonna change the future lol.

 You tell them Scale.
 

This poll is rigged, Lotro posted on their main webpage to vote for them.

Originally posted by pileopoop

This poll is rigged, Lotro posted on their main webpage to vote for them.

How does that make it rigged if they did that? Blizzard could have done the same thing. Did Turbine make the decision on who won? Please explain it to me because I must be missing something. Not seeing how it makes it rigged.

Originally posted by JK-Kanosi

 

So I take these awards with a grain of salt, because these rewards don't represent what the majority think or what professionals think like most serious awards.

Currently Playing: WoW

of course you would ... i mean how could anything ever EVER beat the "bestest game out there" the love of your life the game you masturbate to WoW.

what a farce i mean LOTRO must have paid all its members to come and rig the contest because nothing could ever ever beat WoW! i mean its just not possible ... everything blizzard does is great, nothing can touch it!

Am i right?

and WoW players wonder why many can't stand them or WoW, heres a clue its not the game so much its the "blizzard did it so it must be the only way to do it" attitude.

Congrats Turbine! Maybe I'll try it (still got a live time account). As long as wow doesnt win anything it doesnt serve, I'm happy. Against buying awards.

Great game althought once again this sites anti WoW hate has shown in full colors.

A good measure of a product, is the sales figures.  The same is true for a service.  If you have one service where 60-70% of the market subscribes to that service, then clearly that is the leader for that market.  11.5 million subscribers is pretty significant.

I have to say after playing Everquest 2, Lord of the Rings, Age of Conan, Warhammer, and World of Warcraft that by far World of Warcraft is the best offering available so far.  The quality of the game far exceeds that of other products.  The variety and balance of the game is far superior.  The graphics may not be as realistic as other games, but it's bright and cheery, and the game is just fun to play.

Originally posted by Frostbite05

Great game althought once again this sites anti WoW hate has shown in full colors.

LOL how so? because blizzard should win every award out there? they could package crap in a box and have 4 million people buy it and thus winning the best expac? because 4 million people bought it?

best expac is about quality not quantity.

Originally posted by Ravanos

Originally posted by JK-Kanosi

 

So I take these awards with a grain of salt, because these rewards don't represent what the majority think or what professionals think like most serious awards.

Currently Playing: WoW

 

of course you would ... i mean how could anything ever EVER beat the "bestest game out there" the love of your life the game you masturbate to WoW.

what a farce i mean LOTRO must have paid all its members to come and rig the contest because nothing could ever ever beat WoW! i mean its just not possible ... everything blizzard does is great, nothing can touch it!

Am i right?

and WoW players wonder why many can't stand them or WoW, heres a clue its not the game so much its the "blizzard did it so it must be the only way to do it" attitude.

 

No buddy we, and im using that term very lightly as there are many retards in WoW and other games for that matter, never say or believe WoW's way is the best. Blizzard unlike most companies put out a game that is fun and playable for every time of player from elitist down to casual. No other game can boast that. The only flaw that is in the game is that the pvp is a sideshow but even that is suprior to LOTRO. Once again i don't hate this game at all just some of the ignorant people like yourself who claim to know it all. As of now LOTRO players are highly respected for not trashing other games/players. You just did both.

Originally posted by shaggydog

A good measure of a product, is the sales figures.  The same is true for a service.  If you have one service where 60-70% of the market subscribes to that service, then clearly that is the leader for that market.  11.5 million subscribers is pretty significant.

I have to say after playing Everquest 2, Lord of the Rings, Age of Conan, Warhammer, and World of Warcraft that by far World of Warcraft is the best offering available so far.  The quality of the game far exceeds that of other products.  The variety and balance of the game is far superior.  The graphics may not be as realistic as other games, but it's bright and cheery, and the game is just fun to play.

so other game companies should just stop making MMOs unless they know they can draw 11.6 million subscribers ... because until then WoW should win every award?

Originally posted by Ravanos

Originally posted by shaggydog

A good measure of a product, is the sales figures.  The same is true for a service.  If you have one service where 60-70% of the market subscribes to that service, then clearly that is the leader for that market.  11.5 million subscribers is pretty significant.

I have to say after playing Everquest 2, Lord of the Rings, Age of Conan, Warhammer, and World of Warcraft that by far World of Warcraft is the best offering available so far.  The quality of the game far exceeds that of other products.  The variety and balance of the game is far superior.  The graphics may not be as realistic as other games, but it's bright and cheery, and the game is just fun to play.

 

so other game companies should just stop making MMOs unless they know they can draw 11.6 million subscribers ... because until then WoW should win every award?

 

Absolutely not, that's just silly.  Just because there is a clear market leader doesn't mean to say that other games in the market aren't still good.  I'll probably go back to playing Lord of the Rings, or Warhammer when I get bored with WoW.  Lord of the Rings is a very good game.  I enjoyed my time there.

there's also a few good games I'm looking forward to, such as Stargate Worlds, Star Wars: Old Republic & Star Trek Online.

Originally posted by Frostbite05

 never say or believe WoW's way is the best.

of course you do you proved that in your last post ... if WoW doesn't win every award it must be because of "WoW hate". not that people enjoy LOTRO and think thier expac is great ... but because everyone must hate WoW that much.

its not a conspiracy there was no gunman on the grassy knoll ... get over yourself and get over the whole "blizzard is the best" BS. I don't even play LOTRO by the way before you say im a LOTRO fanboy i just can't stand stupid WoW players bashing another game because WoW didn't win.

 I'm not even going to read the rest of the thread, because I know it's likely going to be a disaster since WoW didn't win. 

Anyway, congrats once again Turbine, definitely deserved. Not so huge on the "solo" class addition, but the rune mage is pretty cool, the legendary system is novel, and as always, the new area has just the right feel to it. Not surprised Eve did well either. I've never really been able to get into the game but their expansions have always been pretty solid (at least from a content standpoint, we'll not mention the patch that almost hosed a ton of windows systems >_>) . As for WoW, self explanitory. I do like that they actually put focus back on the lore at least somewhat. 

Congratulations Turbine!! Thank you for the 102% effort you put into your game!

I am glad Turbine won as from my experience they deserved it. I voted for it and as some pointed out it wasn't simply because they advertised it.  I've seen these same types of adds on other mmos I've played but I have never felt compelled to go and vote for them which is what I think distinguishes Turbine apart right now.  I have no problem saying that Turbine is giving people what they want right now as and not many are coming close right now.  I don't agree with all the WoW hate it's just a game and it is well produced, easy to play and works well and given what some companies have no problem putting out nowadays that has to be applauded. If you like LOTRO take pride in your David beating the Goliath WOW but honestly it's not worth geting your blood pressure up.

Originally posted by Frostbite05

Great game althought once again this sites anti WoW hate has shown in full colors.

... this site has shown its hate of WoW...

Well, let's see..

The people who come here voted... not MMORPG.com staff.

And, I do recall a recent review of WoTLK here, by a MMORPG.com statff member, that described it as "freaking awesome" and went on to pile much praise on it.

Yeah... So much hate.

Originally posted by JK-Kanosi

With just under 4k votes casts for this award, it shows how little read this website is by the majority of MMO players in the genre. I mean hell, 4k people is almost what DAoC has active on a daily basis.

So I take these awards with a grain of salt, because these rewards don't represent what the majority think or what professionals think like most serious awards.

... except that MoM is getting high praise from "professionals" as well; assuming that by "professionals", you mean major gaming sites and publications. Just look around at the  reviews from different gaming sites and magazines. They all give it high scores.

That, and polls never represent an entire population, but a sampling of it. The poll is no different here. And, given the praise it's getting in the press, I think the results of this poll are at least consistent.

Originally posted by duwat1982d

Originally posted by pileopoop

This poll is rigged, Lotro posted on their main webpage to vote for them.

 

How does that make it rigged if they did that? Blizzard could have done the same thing. Did Turbine make the decision on who won? Please explain it to me because I must be missing something. Not seeing how it makes it rigged.

Blizzard doesn't  need to ask its players to vote on a meaningless poll.  They don't exactly need the publicity. 

While I am really loving WoW's latest expansion (much more than the last one) I've heard pretty much only positive things about Mines of Moria, so it seems to be a deserving winner.