Originally posted by bodypass

Originally posted by SignusM

 Most MMOs never really die.

 

That being said, there has never been an MMO that deserves a painful death more than WoW. Except perhaps AoC, but that's already dead. 

 

That's what you get for destroying the MMO industry... 

 

Could someone dial 911 for this guy please.

Warcraft will NEVER die, or better said, not in our life times. If you're 89, perhaps.

Did Disney die?  Nope Does frozen solid count? But if you're talking about the company, Michael Eisner almost ran it into the ground before he was given the boot.  Decades of work can be brought down to nothing by a cruel twist of fate.  Look up Barings Bank, or more recently, Merrill Lynch.; Will Pokemon die ? Nope. Very few things never die -- and it's nigh impossible to predict what.  Is Sailor Moon dead?

The Warcraft franchise is that big that I foresee an ever changing Wow1, Wow2, Wow3 for the next 3 to 4 decades. We don't know what the state of the industry will be five years from now, let alone two decades.  Look up the problems, legal and otherwise, at NCSoft.  Also see the happenings at Electronic Arts, as solid a game company as you could have expected.

Warcraft is 15 years old and dozens of publishers will want that franchise in their boot. Tastes change. D&D in the late 90's looked dead before "Baldur's Gate" resurrected the franchise.

Sorry but chances are that SignusM dies "a painful death" sooner than Warcraft :)))) Should I call the cops?

 

 

I hope it doesn't die. The players that migrate from WoW to the new MMOs totally ruin the new ones. WoW players try to play every MMO like it's WoW, and when its different they cry and whine until the devs change it to WoW.

Case in point:  AoC has some of the freshest most unique combat in any MMO. There was huge potential for it to be THE pvp mmo. But what happened? Nobody participated in PvP outside of low-level ganking because there were no item rewards for it. Instanced PvP was completely non existant.

Case in point: WAR offers 5 scenarios (BGs) in tier 3. Guess how many get played. One. Just like WoW. Players didn't even set foot in the RvR lakes because there was no item rewards.  Now that they give players a RvR grind for item rewards, all the retards and their mothers are in the RvR lakes, completely abandoning the scenarios.

Players from WoW are only interested in the easiest fastest way to level up their stats. That's all they care about. I want them to stay in WoW, so therefore I hope it never dies.

I love the game and wish it to go on for a long time to come.

Weather people wanna admit it or not - over all World of Warcraft is a great game.

It may not be the best around - but what game is. Besides, that's the joy of there being so many different games and game designers out there. Everyone has different ideas and plans for games.

Originally posted by Pheace

Try Fallout 3, you'll not regret it :)

But, but...how am I supposed to get my epix and uber gear so everyone thinks I'm "skilled"?!  Does Fallout 3 have BGs and arena I can AFK in?

WoW CANT BE KILLED!!!! OMG!!! is that really hard to understand!????

Originally posted by Palebane

I hope it doesn't die. The players that migrate from WoW to the new MMOs totally ruin the new ones. WoW players try to play every MMO like it's WoW, and when its different they cry and whine until the devs change it to WoW.

Case in point:  AoC has some of the freshest most unique combat in any MMO. There was huge potential for it to be THE pvp mmo. But what happened? Nobody participated in PvP outside of low-level ganking because there were no item rewards for it. Instanced PvP was completely non existant.

Case in point: WAR offers 5 scenarios (BGs) in tier 3. Guess how many get played. One. Just like WoW. Players didn't even set foot in the RvR lakes because there was no item rewards.  Now that they give players a RvR grind for item rewards, all the retards and their mothers are in the RvR lakes, completely abandoning the scenarios.

Players from WoW are only interested in the easiest fastest way to level up their stats. That's all they care about. I want them to stay in WoW, so therefore I hope it never dies.

Not everyone is like that - so please take your steroe-typing elsewhere...

I don't care bout only leveling as quick as I can and only getting items. Yes; it's nice to get something for your time - but I actualy spend about 60-70% of my WoW time helping others.

And when it Comes to PvP-related things -- I usualy don't do any PvP stuff; weather there are items/rewards or not. I don't like PvP and I'm nto any good at it.

Granted there are several people that have the whole "me, me, me" mentality - I have faced several of those; even in the guild I'm a part of - but by no means is everyone like that. And I hate when peopel generalize EVERY WoW player like that. Juts dumb.

But, every game has those type of people anyways in it. No matter whom it caters to - or gaming style.

Originally posted by jdm12983

Originally posted by Palebane

Not everyone is like that - so please take your steroe-typing elsewhere...

I don't care bout only leveling as quick as I can and only getting items. Yes; it's nice to get something for your time - but I actualy spend about 60-70% of my WoW time helping others.

And when it Comes to PvP-related things -- I usualy don't do any PvP stuff; weather there are items/rewards or not. I don't like PvP and I'm nto any good at it.

Granted there are several people that have the whole "me, me, me" mentality - I have faced several of those; even in the guild I'm a part of - but by no means is everyone like that. And I hate when peopel generalize EVERY WoW player like that. Juts dumb.

But, every game has those type of people anyways in it. No matter whom it caters to - or gaming style.

100 % sign....

i met people of the 'all-mine!!"-race in every game..i also met  the "OMG-I M SO GOOOD"dmg-meter posters, "got my quest-item, bye"-wavers and so on

wow doesnt have the privilege to own this type of players alone...and as said not all players are like that...

back to topic:

this must be the 65857456487-thread assuming wow will die, must die, is about to die....

for what? i dont see any sense in speculating about that....why should it? and even if ..there will be another game, which of course- if very successful- is again about to die, will die, must die...

waaaah....much adoo about nothing....

Originally posted by jdm12983

Originally posted by Palebane

I hope it doesn't die. The players that migrate from WoW to the new MMOs totally ruin the new ones. WoW players try to play every MMO like it's WoW, and when its different they cry and whine until the devs change it to WoW.

Case in point:  AoC has some of the freshest most unique combat in any MMO. There was huge potential for it to be THE pvp mmo. But what happened? Nobody participated in PvP outside of low-level ganking because there were no item rewards for it. Instanced PvP was completely non existant.

Case in point: WAR offers 5 scenarios (BGs) in tier 3. Guess how many get played. One. Just like WoW. Players didn't even set foot in the RvR lakes because there was no item rewards.  Now that they give players a RvR grind for item rewards, all the retards and their mothers are in the RvR lakes, completely abandoning the scenarios.

Players from WoW are only interested in the easiest fastest way to level up their stats. That's all they care about. I want them to stay in WoW, so therefore I hope it never dies.

 

Not everyone is like that - so please take your steroe-typing elsewhere...

I don't care bout only leveling as quick as I can and only getting items. Yes; it's nice to get something for your time - but I actualy spend about 60-70% of my WoW time helping others.

And when it Comes to PvP-related things -- I usualy don't do any PvP stuff; weather there are items/rewards or not. I don't like PvP and I'm nto any good at it.

Granted there are several people that have the whole "me, me, me" mentality - I have faced several of those; even in the guild I'm a part of - but by no means is everyone like that. And I hate when peopel generalize EVERY WoW player like that. Juts dumb.

But, every game has those type of people anyways in it. No matter whom it caters to - or gaming style.

Don't lie. You are one of them.

Originally posted by Sinaa

 

 

wow doesnt have the privilege to own this type of players alone...and as said not all players are like that...

 

 

Perhaps not, but that's where they get it. Regardless of whether or not you are a selfish player, something about WoW requires players who try other games to try and play them like WoW and get upset when it's different.

I hope that it does die with antiquated idea of leveling in lieu of a skill system and sandbox environment that can be an evolving world. So, I cast my vote in the hat of hoping that it dies. Or at least gives birth in it's next incarnation as what I just said.

Originally posted by Manmadegod

I hope that it does die with antiquated idea of leveling in lieu of a skill system and sandbox environment that can be an evolving world. So, I cast my vote in the hat of hoping that it dies. Or at least gives birth in it's next incarnation as what I just said.

If Blizzard shut down the servers at midnight tonight, would sandbox games somehow spring to life tomorrow?  Doubtful, but I bet you would see an increase of WoW clones slapped together in an attempt to gobble up that market that is suddenly empty. 

No one is making sandbox games right now, because sandbox games have historically shown to be difficult and not be very productive.   Especially when they are compared to linear level based games.  

I love sandbox games and wish someone would make a great one again, but I realize the lack of sandbox games in development are a result of companies delivering duds.  It is going to take a small miracle to revive sandbox over linear anytime soon. 

Originally posted by Palebane

Originally posted by Sinaa

 

 

wow doesnt have the privilege to own this type of players alone...and as said not all players are like that...

 

 

 

Perhaps not, but that's where they get it. Regardless of whether or not you are a selfish player, something about WoW requires players who try other games to try and play them like WoW and get upset when it's different.

More likely people get upset when shiny new game X plays to much like WoW.  Minus the polish that is.

Originally posted by Daffid011

If Blizzard shut down the servers at midnight tonight, would sandbox games somehow spring to life tomorrow?  Doubtful, but I bet you would see an increase of WoW clones slapped together in an attempt to gobble up that market that is suddenly empty. 

too true   $$$

Originally posted by Mwaji

Oh and as for Blizzards new mmo If Chilton is involved expect people not to even touch it, that mans name is synonymous with the plague. 

How many of the current 11.5 million people playing WoW know who Tom Chilton is? Or even care what he did before joining the WoW team?

My guess would be ......very few.

Originally posted by Xiaoki

Originally posted by Mwaji

Oh and as for Blizzards new mmo If Chilton is involved expect people not to even touch it, that mans name is synonymous with the plague. 

 

How many of the current 11.5 million people playing WoW know who Tom Chilton is? Or even care what he did before joining the WoW team?

My guess would be ......very few.

 

Fail. Chilton works for Blizzard since the end of 2002, so he's very much involved in what Wow brought. And i like very much the new WotLK compared to the early launch.

I never heard of the guy and I've played for a couple yrs.

I know of Mike Morhaime and Chris Metzen and a bunch of other people from Blizzard, i haven't heard of Tom Chilton though, who is he?

I just want to play another MMO that doesn't suck....variety plz

"I've been seeing alot of posts about games that might kill WoW, but never did. And i was just wondering if there is someone On this website that actually hopes this game doesn't die."

I don't want to see any game die. All games have their fans and by all means, they should all be able to play and enjoy the game of their choice...

All games will die eventually, but let's hope those lifetimes are long and fruitfull...
 

Originally posted by xusheng2

I've been seeing alot of posts about games that might kill WoW, but never did. And i was just wondering if there is someone On this website that actually hopes this game doesn't die.

/discuss

Edit: Happy New Year!!

 

MEH... There is always room for GOOD competition and NO mmo (outside of a scam mmo) should fail.

--On a side note your avatar pic reminded me of the console fps wars and the cry of "Halo" killer for years from every fps wanabe company in the world ,and even some of the console makers as well .....

   I guess some ppl just want those they disagree with or don't like to fail and they don't seem to understand that there is room for many differing points of view as well as mmo's and console games.

Yes I would like it die, but to die as a result of a better game coming out.

By die I mean have a massive drop in subs, not shut down completely.

Don't think it won't happend either, history and common sense shows otherwise.

I only want WoW to die to get rid of the constant flaming over it and the discussions of whether or not it is a good game

Originally posted by bodypass

Originally posted by Xiaoki

 How many of the current 11.5 million people playing WoW know who Tom Chilton is? Or even care what he did before joining the WoW team?

My guess would be ......very few. 

Fail. Chilton works for Blizzard since the end of 2002, so he's very much involved in what Wow brought. And i like very much the new WotLK compared to the early launch. 

Chilton left Origin in 2004 when EA absorbed it. Shortly afterwards he joined Blizzard.

Don't call "fail" unless you know what you're talking about.

For the curious, Tom Chilton previously worked on Ultima Online and is one of the people blamed for it's downfall.

In WoW Chilton is known as Kalgan and is the head of PvP.

Well I have to agree to most haters of this game... WoW has to be left on the shelf dying.

I played this game since the Alpha version. I tried BC and disliked it to crush my PC. Even now when I log or see some friends playing i just can't stand it. The game never evolved and what they add to the game broke the game itself in so many ways.

I beta tested and played so many online games since 1995 that i can't put them here. But i can tell that i enjoyed WoW at first but now Blizz has to go in a new direction. The Cow cash is good for them i agree but the game is more a Korean game style now than a real MMO. Before long I can tell that Blizzard will come with buyable tokens just like the Korean games where you buy your gear instead of playing to get it.

Games like AOC or WAR and many more are over the top and brings new blood to the MMOS.

That is my point... WOW should die!