Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Jackdog

So Avery how do account for all of the expected features that are either not there or broken or not even part of the design ? AoC is a grade B or grade C MMO and will continue to be iuntil it at least has the most of the standard expected features like LoTRO and EQII have. AoC is really nothing more than EQ1 at release with pretty graphics. Even AO at release was more innovative.

 

B- at release to B+ now. Thats 6 months. Simple fact is remember during development all the people who wanted the game to be how they want it telling the devs not to have raids, to have raids, not to have housing to have housing. It was rampant. The game has all the standard features of a regular mmo and then some extra's.

I am sorry but I don't consider Player Housing a standard requirement for an mmo. It is a nice thing to have but not necessary to have - there are the essential and the desirables. PH is a desirable.

AoC will be the first game ever to use CUDA in about a months time on a custom designed engine which is innovative. I can already do many things in game that I can not do in other games. That is why I chose AoC as my main mmorpg.

AoC does some things really well and some things pretty average. Those average things are so being worked on now, I mean don't take my word for it there is open dialogue on the test server forums / test vent with key relevant devs. Open floor. The community asks the comunity gets. Patch 3 showed about 6 updates that came from well presented requests and U4 is looking the same.

I am really looking forward to the next few months of updates.

Good lord man the game does not have any player housing, does not even have any planned. Guild management is at EQ1 level, no vending system but thats ok because crafting is pretty much a total joke anyway, players cities are nothing but a grind, you can't even dye the generic armor in game.The mail system sucks,  You can do more in DAoC than you can in AoC LOL

I would be amazed if teh game is at the stage where it could be compared to EQ1by this time next year.

Originally posted by Rohn

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by finnishguy

Well, that's YOUR opinion. Some people have different opinions.

It all comes down to what you are looking for in an MMO. If you only like graphics, AoC could easily be 9/10 but if you are only interested about gameplay then AoC could be as low as 4/10.

I'm pretty sure most people who have tried AoC would rate it somewhere between 5 and 7. Personally I give it 6/10.

I don't consider AoC a "bad" game. It's just a niche game that attracts a very small percentage of gamers. Basically graphics junkies or people who like digital boobies. For those people AoC is the best game ever, but for majority.. it's not even close.

 

Why you even posting here?  You don't like the game, you insult the playerbase and I bet you will have 200+ posts by end of January just like SCAREDGIRL about how much AoC sucks. The fact is you have your opinion and the OP has his. You can't respect his opinion and nor the playerbase. The rating by mmorpg.com was based over several factors just like the rating the public can do. 

Metacritics puts it above an 8, even the user votes put it above a 7, just like here.

The simple fact is that the AoC review was premature, and mmorpg.com is giving other newly released games the benefit of an extra 2-3 months in relation to AoC's launch to review period, so they can get a better score.

Enough of a change has happened - which you can tell just by reading the past 50 comments on the ratings page to warrant a re-review in a few months if things keep up as they are.

 

I'd guess he's coming here to give his opinion on the game, like you and everyone else.  You are far from objective as well, Avery.

As far as building a post count, there are just as many fanbois who've built 200+ posts in a few months as well - not to discuss the game, but specifically to spread propaganda (often false) to try to change the perception people have about the game.  Those are two different things.

I'm sure you will remember that the original "Our-Rating" MMORPG.com gave AoC was a lot higher than the current one, which was around a 7.88 if I remember correctly.

The 6.0 rating IS a rereview of the game, which was posted on the 27th of October, 5 months after the release of the game.

In point of fact, AoC received very high initial marks from many publications, which were obviously based on limited experience with the game (where the reviewers probably never got out of Tortage).  Those marks were subsequently scrutinized later as the vast number of problems with the game came to light within the first month or two.

To the point of the OP, in my opinion AoC probably deserved a 2.0 or 3.0 at release - yes, it was that bad.  Given the small amount of fundamental changes the game has undergone, and the cleanup of the horrendous technical problems they had, it's probably sitting at a 5.0 or 6.0 right now.  With the continued improvement the game still needs, many of which are "coming soon", it'll eventually go higher than that.

The 6 was not a re-review. The first score 7.9 something was just for the first 20 levels. The 6 score was after for everthing including that from someone who based game time for the review before the middle of Septembers Massive Patch. Read the comments. Plus "few emotes" bah, like over 100 in game.. Was outed to be a poor review from those that played the game because it was not factual for the time posted. It was based on just 3 months of play / guessing or slightly less (June, July, first week August, last week May) proven from the review not covering even Augusts update, let alone Sept's massive patch.

Sorry If I am not objective enough with him, maybe it is because my sense of intuation that has served me well in life along with other evidence concludes with me having the same discussion with that person 20 times before already.

Yep I agree that the game got high marks on limited playtime just like most other games out there. I found John Woods initial write up of 7.9 quite right. I bet based on that score in relative to if he had another go all the way through it would remain close to that from todays experience past 20.

For many people who played then it might be a 6. Different kettle of fish now, hence the 6 review doesn't hold any weight whatsoever, just like the inflated limited time in game reviews hold any weight imo.

Originally posted by Sixfeetunder

Why mmorpg.com give only 6.00?

For graphic , sound , combat ,and little progress , i think ...they could give min 7.30 ...

 

The review states the reasoning behind the final score provided. To this day, I don't understand why the title specific correspondent for the title didn't, couldn't or wouldn't have written that piece.  I'll qualify that by adding that I know the difference between Avery the poster and Avery the writer; and I would have liked to have seen that article/review written by someone with some command of the medium.

The individual who "DID" write that review was by and large one of the least professional by my standards; and was justifiably called out on the areas that were just blatantly incorrect or outdated.

That being said, I agree with the final score provided, just not the manner that reviewer reached that score.

Perhaps it's the industry that needs changing and the "one review" for traditional games shouldn't apply to MMO's and instead have something along the lines of:

• Launch Review
• Six Month Review
• Year in Review and Final Thoughts.

For example, if the site gave it a 6.0 initially and stated what they perceived to be the title's issues/shortcomings; I'd want to see the subsequent review address those areas and adjust the scoring as lower/same/better to track it's progression.  MMO's during their first year are dynamic to say the least and I'd like to see MMO reviews as a whole begin to take that approach.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by finnishguy

Well, that's YOUR opinion. Some people have different opinions.

It all comes down to what you are looking for in an MMO. If you only like graphics, AoC could easily be 9/10 but if you are only interested about gameplay then AoC could be as low as 4/10.

I'm pretty sure most people who have tried AoC would rate it somewhere between 5 and 7. Personally I give it 6/10.

I don't consider AoC a "bad" game. It's just a niche game that attracts a very small percentage of gamers. Basically graphics junkies or people who like digital boobies. For those people AoC is the best game ever, but for majority.. it's not even close.

 

Why you even posting here?  You don't like the game, you insult the playerbase and I bet you will have 200+ posts by end of January just like SCAREDGIRL about how much AoC sucks. The fact is you have your opinion and the OP has his. You can't respect his opinion and nor the playerbase. The rating by mmorpg.com was based over several factors just like the rating the public can do. 

Metacritics puts it above an 8, even the user votes put it above a 7, just like here.

The simple fact is that the AoC review was premature, and mmorpg.com is giving other newly released games the benefit of an extra 2-3 months in relation to AoC's launch to review period, so they can get a better score.

Enough of a change has happened - which you can tell just by reading the past 50 comments on the ratings page to warrant a re-review in a few months if things keep up as they are.

 

No, the premature reviews were the ones by the fanbois that ran out and gave it a 10/10 before they even left tortage. That is the only reason the player rating is so much higher than it should be.

 

oh really? what about the 2 week players who gave it a 1 then? Im sorry the metacritic website had over half the user reviews it has from August onwards.

The fact is there are more people who came back and enjoyed the game more than those that came back and didn't - I cite the evidence on these boards and several others as testament coupled with the jump from 6.69 to well over 7 on the ratings here with the comments to back it up from members that post all around us.

Some people simply just can not handle the fact evidence points to the population growing, rating scores increase etc etc because it goes against there opinion. Some can't handle it and take it so bad they have to create 20 + accounts here or go on some crusade to find things that agree with their thoughts.

Every day I read these boards, every thread here in the AoC section - it is of my opinion that the above things I said are more right than wrong.

Avery, you know exactly why it has been climbing. You guys started a thread in the aoc forums about the ratings here and for everyone to come here to spread good news about the game and give it a better rating. geez, how can someone make themselves that blind?

Before you go dogging the new guy above about his post history and how many post he will have by the end of the month, grow up a little bit, I dont see you talking about your buddies from the official forums who were invited to come here in that thread and post nothing but positives.

*awaiting some witty remark about post history*

Originally posted by convict

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by finnishguy

Well, that's YOUR opinion. Some people have different opinions.

It all comes down to what you are looking for in an MMO. If you only like graphics, AoC could easily be 9/10 but if you are only interested about gameplay then AoC could be as low as 4/10.

I'm pretty sure most people who have tried AoC would rate it somewhere between 5 and 7. Personally I give it 6/10.

I don't consider AoC a "bad" game. It's just a niche game that attracts a very small percentage of gamers. Basically graphics junkies or people who like digital boobies. For those people AoC is the best game ever, but for majority.. it's not even close.

 

Why you even posting here?  You don't like the game, you insult the playerbase and I bet you will have 200+ posts by end of January just like SCAREDGIRL about how much AoC sucks. The fact is you have your opinion and the OP has his. You can't respect his opinion and nor the playerbase. The rating by mmorpg.com was based over several factors just like the rating the public can do. 

Metacritics puts it above an 8, even the user votes put it above a 7, just like here.

The simple fact is that the AoC review was premature, and mmorpg.com is giving other newly released games the benefit of an extra 2-3 months in relation to AoC's launch to review period, so they can get a better score.

Enough of a change has happened - which you can tell just by reading the past 50 comments on the ratings page to warrant a re-review in a few months if things keep up as they are.

 

No, the premature reviews were the ones by the fanbois that ran out and gave it a 10/10 before they even left tortage. That is the only reason the player rating is so much higher than it should be.

 

oh really? what about the 2 week players who gave it a 1 then? Im sorry the metacritic website had over half the user reviews it has from August onwards.

The fact is there are more people who came back and enjoyed the game more than those that came back and didn't - I cite the evidence on these boards and several others as testament coupled with the jump from 6.69 to well over 7 on the ratings here with the comments to back it up from members that post all around us.

Some people simply just can not handle the fact evidence points to the population growing, rating scores increase etc etc because it goes against there opinion. Some can't handle it and take it so bad they have to create 20 + accounts here or go on some crusade to find things that agree with their thoughts.

Every day I read these boards, every thread here in the AoC section - it is of my opinion that the above things I said are more right than wrong.

Avery, you know exactly why it has been climbing. You guys started a thread in the aoc forums about the ratings here and for everyone to come here to spread good news about the game and give it a better rating. geez, how can someone make themselves that blind?

Before you go dogging the new guy above about his post history and how many post he will have by the end of the month, grow up a little bit, I dont see you talking about your buddies from the official forums who were invited to come here in that thread and post nothing but positives.

*awaiting some witty remark about post history*

Wow didn't realise a post on the official forums asking the community to support the game they play by voting upsets you so much. Do you get upset with all the other games that are hyped up from similar methods? Both Darkfall and WAR have the same thing. Why does AoC draw you so much huh? Maybe you give too much credit to the existing AoC community in that a thread could impact you so much. Rating and Hype don't bother me, actual in game experiences do, that can be measured as I have pointed out before, from past to present, in experiencing them for yourself something which in the rating section is constantly being posted - mainly be people who have been around these forums a long time from which I had no idea they even played the game.

Originally posted by Jackdog

So Avery how do account for all of the expected features that are either not there or broken or not even part of the design ? AoC is a grade B or grade C MMO and will continue to be iuntil it at least has the most of the standard expected features like LoTRO and EQII have. AoC is really nothing more than EQ1 at release with pretty graphics. Even AO at release was more innovative.

I think it is a stretch to even call this game an MMORPG. It is, kinda like Guildwars, a bunch of instanced zones with very nice gfx that you zip zap too. Does not have the MMORPG feel at all.

That is probably the main reason it is getting so low ratings on this site because you know it is called MMORPG.COM ;)

Originally posted by convict

Avery, you know exactly why it has been climbing. You guys started a thread in the aoc forums about the ratings here and for everyone to come here to spread good news about the game and give it a better rating. geez, how can someone make themselves that blind?

Before you go dogging the new guy above about his post history and how many post he will have by the end of the month, grow up a little bit, I dont see you talking about your buddies from the official forums who were invited to come here in that thread and post nothing but positives.

*awaiting some witty remark about post history*

Ahh so thats the game they're playing. Recruit fanatics from AoC forum to drum up fake new interest, make posts on mmorpg about how interest is climbing, trick people into subscribing based on climbing interest. (game MUST be getting better since interest is climbing!) Same old manipulation that funcom has been doing since release... apple doesn't fall far from the tree I guess. They havent changed a bit.

Sickening. Its days like this im ashamed to be a gamer. We need to hold people responsible for pulling this kind of stuff. New correspondent please? We need someone with integrity. 

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Jackdog

So Avery how do account for all of the expected features that are either not there or broken or not even part of the design ? AoC is a grade B or grade C MMO and will continue to be iuntil it at least has the most of the standard expected features like LoTRO and EQII have. AoC is really nothing more than EQ1 at release with pretty graphics. Even AO at release was more innovative.

 

B- at release to B+ now. Thats 6 months. Simple fact is remember during development all the people who wanted the game to be how they want it telling the devs not to have raids, to have raids, not to have housing to have housing. It was rampant. The game has all the standard features of a regular mmo and then some extra's.

I am sorry but I don't consider Player Housing a standard requirement for an mmo. It is a nice thing to have but not necessary to have - there are the essential and the desirables. PH is a desirable.

AoC will be the first game ever to use CUDA in about a months time on a custom designed engine which is innovative. I can already do many things in game that I can not do in other games. That is why I chose AoC as my main mmorpg.

AoC does some things really well and some things pretty average. Those average things are so being worked on now, I mean don't take my word for it there is open dialogue on the test server forums / test vent with key relevant devs. Open floor. The community asks the comunity gets. Patch 3 showed about 6 updates that came from well presented requests and U4 is looking the same.

I am really looking forward to the next few months of updates.

Ohh no Avery, don't forget you are posting in MMORPG now. lol. Only WARs Public Fcking rediculous Quests are innovation here. lol.

Originally posted by Grunties

Ahh so thats the game they're playing. Recruit fanatics from AoC forum to drum up fake new interest, make posts on mmorpg about how interest is climbing, trick people into subscribing based on climbing interest. (game MUST be getting better since interest is climbing!) Same old manipulation that funcom has been doing since release... apple doesn't fall far from the tree I guess. They havent changed a bit.

Sickening. Its days like this im ashamed to be a gamer. We need to hold people responsible for pulling this kind of stuff. New correspondent please? We need someone with integrity. 

I guess when the game is broken you have to use every dirty trick in the book to get people interested.

If AoC really was a great game, we wouldn't need all these people with agenda to tell visitors how amazing the game is and how they and all their friends should subscribe.

If AoC really was a great game, players would tell their friends and they would tell their friends.. etc and AoC would be a great success. Word-of-mouth would do all the work and there would be no need to start these fake "should I resubscribe" or "I'm new to Conan" threads or some fixed "Best MMO in the Universe" poll with AoC as #1.

It's really sad.

Why?  Because people are holding a grudge against funcom, and not judging the game based on it's current merits or flaws, but on that first impression.  They're not rating the game, they're punishing it.

Originally posted by finnishguy

Originally posted by Grunties

Ahh so thats the game they're playing. Recruit fanatics from AoC forum to drum up fake new interest, make posts on mmorpg about how interest is climbing, trick people into subscribing based on climbing interest. (game MUST be getting better since interest is climbing!) Same old manipulation that funcom has been doing since release... apple doesn't fall far from the tree I guess. They havent changed a bit.

Sickening. Its days like this im ashamed to be a gamer. We need to hold people responsible for pulling this kind of stuff. New correspondent please? We need someone with integrity. 

 

I guess when the game is broken you have to use every dirty trick in the book to get people interested.

If AoC really was a great game, we wouldn't need all these people with agenda to tell visitors how amazing the game is and how they and all their friends should subscribe.

If AoC really was a great game, players would tell their friends and they would tell their friends.. etc and AoC would be a great success. Word-of-mouth would do all the work and there would be no need to start these fake "should I resubscribe" or "I'm new to Conan" threads or some fixed "Best MMO in the Universe" poll with AoC as #1.

It's really sad.

Are you aware of how hard it is for anybody that ever played AoC to go back to Nintendo style MMOs. It's impossible, I've tried and I can only play AoC because it is so damn much better than anything else out there. And guess what, I post that exact thing. Who are you to call me names and tell me about my agenda etc... You are posting here 24/7 on a game you played 6 months back? Am I asking you about your agenda (even I/we maybe should)? NO.

Originally posted by Grunties

Originally posted by convict

Avery, you know exactly why it has been climbing. You guys started a thread in the aoc forums about the ratings here and for everyone to come here to spread good news about the game and give it a better rating. geez, how can someone make themselves that blind?

Before you go dogging the new guy above about his post history and how many post he will have by the end of the month, grow up a little bit, I dont see you talking about your buddies from the official forums who were invited to come here in that thread and post nothing but positives.

*awaiting some witty remark about post history*

 

Ahh so thats the game they're playing. Recruit fanatics from AoC forum to drum up fake new interest, make posts on mmorpg about how interest is climbing, trick people into subscribing based on climbing interest. (game MUST be getting better since interest is climbing!) Same old manipulation that funcom has been doing since release... apple doesn't fall far from the tree I guess. They havent changed a bit.

Sickening. Its days like this im ashamed to be a gamer. We need to hold people responsible for pulling this kind of stuff. New correspondent please? We need someone with integrity. 

This has been happening for the last two months or so, with the AoC poster Worgpest being one of the primary leaders (even several of the forum guys on the official AoC forum have grown tired of his relentless and obvious positive propaganda posts).

Their lines of persuasion used since receiving their marching orders have been as follows:

1. After every patch, create the perception that the game has now radically changed/improved - "I don't know about you guys, but since patch X, AoC is so much better, it's like a whole new game...."

2. Discredit any critics by painted them all as people who haven't played the game since shortly after launch or who have never played it, whether true or not - "Don't listen to him, he hasn't played the game since June...."

3. Create the perception that population in the game is dramatically increasing through anecdotal evidence, whether provable or not - "I don't know about you guys, but since X patch, I'm really starting to see tons of new players, and my server is really booming...."

Again, they aren't really discussing the game as much as they are trying to change a perception to influence a behavior.  It is propaganda.

Truth isn't really necessary to the cause.  Just perception management.

Originally posted by Rohn

Originally posted by Grunties

Originally posted by convict

Avery, you know exactly why it has been climbing. You guys started a thread in the aoc forums about the ratings here and for everyone to come here to spread good news about the game and give it a better rating. geez, how can someone make themselves that blind?

Before you go dogging the new guy above about his post history and how many post he will have by the end of the month, grow up a little bit, I dont see you talking about your buddies from the official forums who were invited to come here in that thread and post nothing but positives.

*awaiting some witty remark about post history*

 

Ahh so thats the game they're playing. Recruit fanatics from AoC forum to drum up fake new interest, make posts on mmorpg about how interest is climbing, trick people into subscribing based on climbing interest. (game MUST be getting better since interest is climbing!) Same old manipulation that funcom has been doing since release... apple doesn't fall far from the tree I guess. They havent changed a bit.

Sickening. Its days like this im ashamed to be a gamer. We need to hold people responsible for pulling this kind of stuff. New correspondent please? We need someone with integrity. 

 

This has been happening for the last two months or so, with the AoC poster Worgpest being one of the primary leaders (even several of the forum guys on the official AoC forum have grown tired of his relentless and obvious positive propaganda posts).

Their lines of persuasion used since receiving their marching orders have been as follows:

1. After every patch, create the perception that the game has now radically changed/improved - "I don't know about you guys, but since patch X, AoC is so much better, it's like a whole new game...."

2. Discredit any critics by painted them all as people who haven't played the game since shortly after launch or who have never played it, whether true or not - "Don't listen to him, he hasn't played the game since June...."

3. Create the perception that population in the game is dramatically increasing through anecdotal evidence, whether provable or not - "I don't know about you guys, but since X patch, I'm really starting to see tons of new players, and my server is really booming...."

Again, they aren't really discussing the game as much as they are trying to change a perception to influence a behavior.  It is propaganda.

Truth isn't really necessary to the cause.  Just perception management.

Sorry but that sound like a lot of Bull crap. I have read a bit of the AoC forums lately and I can't really find anything but honeyposting. Just very nice posts really and nothing about the evil plans you refer to.lol. I belive you when I see you link in a thread with those "Orders".

Just a little note, you posting history does not exactly spell integrity... at least not on the subject AoC.

Originally posted by lilune666

Why?  Because people are holding a grudge against funcom, and not judging the game based on it's current merits or flaws, but on that first impression.  They're not rating the game, they're punishing it.

I believe most of the people who left after a month would leave even if AoC launched today. Most people didn't care about bugs because everyone knows they will be fixed. Biggest problems AoC had at launch, still exist today.

I think the biggest problem with AoC was, and still is, small instanced zones. When you have these small instances with a handful of people in an already small zones, you just don't get that mmorpg feeling people are looking for. It feels too much like a single player game.

This is just one example why most people still wouldn't like AoC even with these "amazing improvements" we've been getting lately.

Originally posted by Grunties

Originally posted by convict

Avery, you know exactly why it has been climbing. You guys started a thread in the aoc forums about the ratings here and for everyone to come here to spread good news about the game and give it a better rating. geez, how can someone make themselves that blind?

Before you go dogging the new guy above about his post history and how many post he will have by the end of the month, grow up a little bit, I dont see you talking about your buddies from the official forums who were invited to come here in that thread and post nothing but positives.

*awaiting some witty remark about post history*

 

Ahh so thats the game they're playing. Recruit fanatics from AoC forum to drum up fake new interest, make posts on mmorpg about how interest is climbing, trick people into subscribing based on climbing interest. (game MUST be getting better since interest is climbing!) Same old manipulation that funcom has been doing since release... apple doesn't fall far from the tree I guess. They havent changed a bit.

Sickening. Its days like this im ashamed to be a gamer. We need to hold people responsible for pulling this kind of stuff. New correspondent please? We need someone with integrity. 

Excuse me, but we know that you have no interest in this game. Are you now saying that the hype and ratings meters are relevant? Still want me to pull all the warhammer linkage to the rating / hype posted all over where people talk about "while your there vote Conan a 1" for your precious game? So fricken two faced mate.

Do you really think I give a shit about the rating for the game, it is whether personally you like the game, that is all that counts.

I guess people are scared, scared that AoC is doing better, because everything they think they believe is slowly and surely becoming obsolete. Like I keep saying why are people like you here? You have no interest in the game unless it is bad news, you have made your intentions before quite clear.  Whats the point? Not only do I question your motives but also your reading comprehension.

New correspondent? rofl. Grow up. I can happily take this title off, nothing will change.

Aww did Avery bring some good news and we don't like it. 

Do you want me to pick your toys up and put them back in the pram? 

morgande(posted Sun Dec 28 2008)
I had a second go at this after playing it at release, It was totally unplayable for me at release, mostly due to huge loading times when zoning, but I now, wow, it runns smoothly, all maxed out 1680x1050 (except for anti alias) and I average 33fps in tortuga, 100+ in dungeons (nvidia gtx260). very nice work from funcoms side since release, now I would recommend anyone to give it a try, It's fun, although the occasional ganker is a pain if you intend to play on a pvp server.

jaysins(posted Sat Dec 20 2008)
Quit because of the earlier very well known issues but am back and loving it.

ougarit(posted Fri Dec 19 2008)
A disaster at launch. FC worked on AOC and improved a lot. Fun to play now. Good cty, beautiful game. Nice

CryoDragon(posted Thu Dec 18 2008)
Great graphics....but they are muchly uncolorful. lol. Love the gameplay. overall pretty descent

sgecko(posted Wed Dec 17 2008)
This game makes me really happy. While there are certainly some bugs that need to be worked out, the overall package is well worth the price of admission -- especially if you're a fan of Howard's work.

Inzra(posted Sat Dec 13 2008)
Graphics are unsurpassed and stunningly beautiful. Realistc and adds to immersion. Sound is just as good, and the music is awsome and beautiful as well. How many people actually use this to roleplay I dunno, but the setting is great for RP, there's tons of emotes and lots of immersion. The value of thid game is imo very high, the combat system is unique and makes you participate in combat with every slash, rather than autoattack that plays a game for you. The potential for this game is huge, something we're starting to see with the new patches coming. As for fun I have been enjoying AoC since early access and even now with fewer people on board there is allways something to do. Find an active guild and you'll a great time, now with the server merges coming, there will be more people to fight/team with too. Customer service have allways been great imo even right after launch it took about 1 hour for me to get response to a bug from GM. last time I petitioned it took about 10 minutes. I've been running AoC on medium settings with winXP, and I rarely had crashes, and still the graphics looks better than any other game. It's not just the textures, it's movement of your char and the way you can control it. Newbies should really give this a try, now with the server merges coming Hyboria will come to life again, it's been a little quiet lately. I hope more people will get to experience the good sides of AoC and appreciate it for that, this game deserves better than the bashings it have gotten. Give it a try before you turn it down, I'm sure you'll be positively surprised :-)

strangism(posted Thu Dec 11 2008)
The game is great, the role playing community (if you can find a good guild) is awesome as well. Overall it is a fun game that has improved greatly since it came out. Most people i have noticed that bash this game just havent played it recently. If you are thinking of trying it than give it a go, i think you will like it :)

Sora2810(posted Wed Dec 03 2008)
Age of Conan is a great new experience to the MMO genre. They gave a full 1-20 Single/Multiplayer story to build you into the game so to speak. The players were fun, Combat's Great. Only problem is, not a lot of people play AoC anymore. Since you need a high-end computer to run the game normally with minimal hick-ups, it probley turned a lot of people off. I'm sure Age of Conan will pick right back up as soon as they introduce the Xbox 360 version, Then again it could send them sinking too. We just have to wait and see. Great Game, Worth a Shot, Free Trial's never hurt. But be ready to suck up some gigabytes in your hardrive.

 cantjump(posted Fri Nov 28 2008)
This game is great and it's underrated big time. The graphics are really nice even though dx10 is not enabled yet, the game play is fun too. This is another game im going to be playing for awhile. Give it a try and don't listen to the haters or people who say its full of bugs when their computer lags around every corner.

Just some recent positive posts which out weigh the negative trolling ones. might want to check the join dates and post history on them all then come back.

Originally posted by RightInThere

Originally posted by Rohn

Originally posted by Grunties

Originally posted by convict

Avery, you know exactly why it has been climbing. You guys started a thread in the aoc forums about the ratings here and for everyone to come here to spread good news about the game and give it a better rating. geez, how can someone make themselves that blind?

Before you go dogging the new guy above about his post history and how many post he will have by the end of the month, grow up a little bit, I dont see you talking about your buddies from the official forums who were invited to come here in that thread and post nothing but positives.

*awaiting some witty remark about post history*

 

Ahh so thats the game they're playing. Recruit fanatics from AoC forum to drum up fake new interest, make posts on mmorpg about how interest is climbing, trick people into subscribing based on climbing interest. (game MUST be getting better since interest is climbing!) Same old manipulation that funcom has been doing since release... apple doesn't fall far from the tree I guess. They havent changed a bit.

Sickening. Its days like this im ashamed to be a gamer. We need to hold people responsible for pulling this kind of stuff. New correspondent please? We need someone with integrity. 

 

This has been happening for the last two months or so, with the AoC poster Worgpest being one of the primary leaders (even several of the forum guys on the official AoC forum have grown tired of his relentless and obvious positive propaganda posts).

Their lines of persuasion used since receiving their marching orders have been as follows:

1. After every patch, create the perception that the game has now radically changed/improved - "I don't know about you guys, but since patch X, AoC is so much better, it's like a whole new game...."

2. Discredit any critics by painted them all as people who haven't played the game since shortly after launch or who have never played it, whether true or not - "Don't listen to him, he hasn't played the game since June...."

3. Create the perception that population in the game is dramatically increasing through anecdotal evidence, whether provable or not - "I don't know about you guys, but since X patch, I'm really starting to see tons of new players, and my server is really booming...."

Again, they aren't really discussing the game as much as they are trying to change a perception to influence a behavior.  It is propaganda.

Truth isn't really necessary to the cause.  Just perception management.

 

Sorry but that sound like a lot of Bull crap. I have read a bit of the AoC forums lately and I can't really find anything but honeyposting. Just very nice posts really and nothing about the evil plans you refer to.lol. I belive you when I see you link in a thread with those "Orders".

Just a little note, you posting history does not exactly spell integrity... at least not on the subject AoC.

The dude is a self remarked "Crusader" his purpose is to post bad things about the game to outweigh the good that is put about. I mean c'mon! Thats nearly as bad as the alt accounts in this thread, but at least he keeps to one name.

Course it is Bull Shit, a negative thread on these forums and all the negative bees are around their little pot of love.

His argument is that you have no opinion because you play the game and have experienced patches which have dramatically changed the way the game plays for you. Oh no no no, you can't say that, it is impossible!!!

Whats more resonable.

1. You played the game can talk constructively about the game from in game experience and witness changes and experience them yourself.

or

2. You played the game several months ago, your opinions are as old as your experience.

You see what happened with this review score of 6.0 was the info the score was based on is outdated and pretty impossible to come to the conclusion the author got to unless you didn't play the game and picked up 3rd party inaccurate information or you simply didn't play that part.

On the ratings issue, I have never seen one thread with linkage, I have never posted on one and I typically don't give a crap about the rating, it's how people get their opinions based on lack of play and misinformation.

You want to ask these fellas the last time they played...

I came to the game to play with my wife.  This game discourages grouping.  There is actually an anti-grouping aspect.  You LOSE experience when duoing this game.

That alone would drop my score below 6/10 for AoC.  The lack of content for endgame if you do suffer  through this single player game also lowers the score.  The huge imbalance in classes in what is supposed to be a pvp oriented  game lowers it further.

4/10 sounds more reasonable regardless of what the fanboys all yell.  If the game were better than that score more people would play it.

Sub number  do not lie.

And quoting the player base is rediculous.  The forum mods have abused so many people and made them leave the game the only ones left are those that give good reviews.  The honest reviews were driven away.

Everyone knows this.  Why beat a dead horse? 

Yes it's pretty...and that's it.  Pretty doesn't get my 15 a month.  It's a 4/10 at best, artificial inflation of score gave it a 6/10.  Be happy with that if your a fanboy. 

Originally posted by RightInThere

Sorry but that sound like a lot of Bull crap. I have read a bit of the AoC forums lately and I can't really find anything but honeyposting. Just very nice posts really and nothing about the evil plans you refer to.lol. I belive you when I see you link in a thread with those "Orders".

Just a little note, you posting history does not exactly spell integrity... at least not on the subject AoC.

Actually there were "orders" like that some time ago. I believe it was either Orionman or Wargpest or both who asked all the fanbois in official forums to join the mmorpg.com Holy War against "haters". He was asking people to come here and post positive stuff about AoC.

Right before that we started getting all these ridiculous people posting how AoC is amazing and 10/10. Now these forums are filled with that crap, and people who come here and don't know anything about AoC might think it's the best game in universe, when we all know it's far from it.

I don't have the link nor do am I willing to go find it. Don't belive me? Couldn't care less...

Originally posted by finnishguy

Originally posted by RightInThere

Sorry but that sound like a lot of Bull crap. I have read a bit of the AoC forums lately and I can't really find anything but honeyposting. Just very nice posts really and nothing about the evil plans you refer to.lol. I belive you when I see you link in a thread with those "Orders".

Just a little note, you posting history does not exactly spell integrity... at least not on the subject AoC.

 

Actually there were "orders" like that some time ago. I believe it was either Orionman or Wargpest or both who asked all the fanbois in official forums to join the mmorpg.com Holy War against "haters". He was asking people to come here and post positive stuff about AoC.

Right before that we started getting all these ridiculous people posting how AoC is amazing and 10/10. Now these forums are filled with that crap, and people who come here and don't know anything about AoC might think it's the best game in universe, when we all know it's far from it.

I don't have the link nor do am I willing to go find it. Don't belive me? Couldn't care less...

You say Couldn't care less... lol. You don't fool me man, what is wrong with you, you have posted 44 "I hate AoC" posts on one day. lol. Respect!! Thats even hefty by the measures of the Gamespy forums. Now, please bear with, link in those threads. Otherwise I will by this game.

Originally posted by RightInThere

You say Couldn't care less... lol. You don't fool me man, what is wrong with you, you have posted 44 "I hate AoC" posts on one day. lol. Respect!! Thats even hefty by the measures of the Gamespy forums. Now, please bear with, link in those threads. Otherwise I will by this game.

Go "by" it, I don't care. I can even give you a buddy key if you want so you can try the game. I'm sure as hell not going to give them to any of my friends. My buddy keys are reserved for enemies only