Vanguard,  Age of Conan, Hellgate London, Pirated of the Burning Sea and D&D Online all sucked very very bad at launch.  Vanguard and D&D took years to fix but now they have low populations. LOTRO and Warhammer gave all that was promised but was boring. 

Why am I stating old news ????.........BECAUSE YOU FORGOT !!!!

I'll say it again..........................................BECAUSE YOU FORGOT !!!!

For the life of me I can't understand you people.  MMO home pages and features on them have nothing to do with real time play....... FLUFF......I was saying this about pre-launch AGE of Conan until I was blue in the face, beta leaks were coming out of the wood work saying the game sucked.  But people continued to get sucked into a home page anyway !!

Two more things that  I don't understand :

1) People getting sucked into dev. photo's and movie clips thinking their real time play, when their just art work and movies "  Hay everyone did you see the new screen shots?  " click on them and it's water color painting's.

2) Game delays........Some people view game launch delays as GOOD they have more time to work on bugs. Well you don't know at what stage of development the game is in.  The game could be so far from development that they are just adding the houses !!!

Why MMO's announce games years in advance is a mystery to me.

Darkfall may or may not be good, but lets remember, remember, remember and don't put all your eggs in one basket and enjoy other games and the great out doors !

Originally posted by page

Why MMO's announce games years in advance is a mystery to me.

and movies, offline games, music albums and so on dont???

be a bit realistic.. my guess is that maybe 1 of 10 release dates holds true..

people get so clouded when they focus on one thing too much.. people talk so much about this title that has to come and save the once great mmo genre? once great? many games had great aspects, but no mmo has ever been truly great..

music and movies 3 to 5 years in advanced like MMOs

Originally posted by page

music and movies 3 to 5 years in advanced like MMOs

Guns and Roses new album was announced like 5-10 years ago.. it came out a month ago i think..

just an example..

actually its very very normal with music..

Ok you win, lets all follow MMO's for 5 years. I'm in for that !

i didnt say it was good.. just that its not MMO's only..

DFO will suck at launch, but hopefully it will be improved the right way and sooner or later we will get decent sandbox (still not perfect tho!)

Also Movies ..Star Wars ep. 1 -3 project was announced like a decade before ..

I did know about 300, Alexander like 3 years before it hit movie-theater..

It is human nature. Nothing to understand here but accept that it happens.

The longer people are waiting for something and the longer thay have been without a new similar product ( like a sandbox FFA game this time) the easier to fall to the Hype.

Then there is that thing we call "hope",  that fills the holes between the little info we have (screenshots, noob previews, videos) with positive thoughts, the more fan/hyped the more hole-filling. Like being in love, you see her three hours a day and fill the remaining 21 hours with positive thoughts about her behaviour/personality. It is when you live toghether that the beautiful Princess becomes an ogre that leaves the dirty underwear splattered everywhere and farts worse than a sick bear.

In a month we will know if we have a true Beautiful Princess here or a Farting Ogre.

Gamers are not the only people falling on this, for example: Have you ever been hyped by a movie trailer/footage six month before release, just to found that the movie is bad but they did a good Cut&paste job with the trailer? Has happened to me a few times already, and expect to happen more in the future.

There is an old saying, not sure if my translation will be good enough, that says: "The Man is the only animal that stumbles twice with the same stone".

About the games you said just one thing. D&D is not that sucked or failed (other than it had little content it was a quality product) but that game is the very definition of a "niche" game, few people will like it and a lot will dislike the mechanics of it. At the moment a "niche" game has huge numbers of subs is no longer "niche" but mainstream.

Originally posted by page

Vanguard,  Age of Conan, Hellgate London, Pirated of the Burning Sea and D&D Online all sucked very very bad at launch.  Vanguard and D&D took years to fix but now they have low populations. LOTRO and Warhammer gave all that was promised but was boring. 

 Hate to tell you this but all those games you just listed are on a completely different level than what Darkfall is going to end up being.

Darkfall is nothing more than a small indy amateur game..  Expect Irth Online, D&L etc..

Originally posted by Calamar

Then there is that thing we call "hope",  that fills the holes between the little info we have (screenshots, noob previews, videos) with positive thoughts, the more fan/hyped the more hole-filling. Like being in love, you see her three hours a day and fill the remaining 21 hours with positive thoughts about her behaviour/personality. It is when you live toghether that the beautiful Princess becomes an ogre that leaves the dirty underwear splattered everywhere and farts worse than a sick bear.

In a month we will know if we have a true Beautiful Princess here or a Farting Ogre.

LOL  ... Not that I dont agree with you but your way of saying it is just hilarious!

Happy new year !

OP:

Your screenshot rant.

Provide an example please.

Originally posted by Calamar

In a month we will know if we have a true Beautiful Princess here or a Farting Ogre.

 Farting ogres turn me on ....

Ow ... and I agree with the rest you said .....

What do we have left when we no longer have hope ..

Originally posted by brainiak

DFO will suck at launch, but hopefully it will be improved the right way and sooner or later we will get decent sandbox (still not perfect tho!)

may i see your crystal ball please

Originally posted by Xxeon

Originally posted by brainiak

DFO will suck at launch, but hopefully it will be improved the right way and sooner or later we will get decent sandbox (still not perfect tho!)

 

may i see your crystal ball please

More like a magic 8 ball

Originally posted by page

Vanguard,  Age of Conan, Hellgate London, Pirated of the Burning Sea and D&D Online all sucked very very bad at launch.  Vanguard and D&D took years to fix but now they have low populations. LOTRO and Warhammer gave all that was promised but was boring. 

Why am I stating old news ????.........BECAUSE YOU FORGOT !!!!

I'll say it again..........................................BECAUSE YOU FORGOT !!!!

For the life of me I can't understand you people.  MMO home pages and features on them have nothing to do with real time play....... FLUFF......I was saying this about pre-launch AGE of Conan until I was blue in the face, beta leaks were coming out of the wood work saying the game sucked.  But people continued to get sucked into a home page anyway !!

Two more things that  I don't understand :

1) People getting sucked into dev. photo's and movie clips thinking their real time play, when their just art work and movies "  Hay everyone did you see the new screen shots?  " click on them and it's water color painting's.

2) Game delays........Some people view game launch delays as GOOD they have more time to work on bugs. Well you don't know at what stage of development the game is in.  The game could be so far from development that they are just adding the houses !!!

Why MMO's announce games years in advance is a mystery to me.

Darkfall may or may not be good, but lets remember, remember, remember and don't put all your eggs in one basket and enjoy other games and the great out doors !

Here is what I'm going to say.......WHO CARES!

seriously, If you DONT want to play the game then dont play it, simple.  If your worried its gonna be a disaster then wait a month and see how things pan out.  Seriously do you think this post is really going to change someone's mind into not getting the game? 

On the flip side if you dont mind paying the money without a beta or much information then more power to you, give the rest of us a decent review so we can decide to buy it or not.

Why does this bother you so much, its so simple, if you truly belive DF is going to be a big failure then just sit back and enjoy.  If it turns out to be everything it claims then right on, we finally have a decent game to play.  If it doesnt its not the end of the world for me. 

I just dont understand the point of these posts anymore, what exactly are you expecting from them?

you dont have to spam old news on a message board only because you forgot. make a desktop wallpaper with this info for yourself.

anyway, you forgot what darkfall dont have in common with all those games you mentioned...darkfall doesnt try to be a world of warcraft clone.

go play your soulbound themepark grinds, let us play in our ffa-sandbox.

Originally posted by page

Vanguard,  Age of Conan, Hellgate London, Pirated of the Burning Sea and D&D Online all sucked very very bad at launch.  Vanguard and D&D took years to fix but now they have low populations. LOTRO and Warhammer gave all that was promised but was boring. 

Why am I stating old news ????.........BECAUSE YOU FORGOT !!!!

I'll say it again..........................................BECAUSE YOU FORGOT !!!!

For the life of me I can't understand you people.  MMO home pages and features on them have nothing to do with real time play....... FLUFF......I was saying this about pre-launch AGE of Conan until I was blue in the face, beta leaks were coming out of the wood work saying the game sucked.  But people continued to get sucked into a home page anyway !!

Two more things that  I don't understand :

1) People getting sucked into dev. photo's and movie clips thinking their real time play, when their just art work and movies "  Hay everyone did you see the new screen shots?  " click on them and it's water color painting's.

2) Game delays........Some people view game launch delays as GOOD they have more time to work on bugs. Well you don't know at what stage of development the game is in.  The game could be so far from development that they are just adding the houses !!!

Why MMO's announce games years in advance is a mystery to me.

Darkfall may or may not be good, but lets remember, remember, remember and don't put all your eggs in one basket and enjoy other games and the great out doors !

me think , full of crap you are.

DDO was great at release, Aoc was a shamefull event because only half the content promised was there. Though on its own still a great experience.

Who forces you to follow a game.

And what proof you have that screenshots and movies about DF are fake.

Bloody trolls spending their hypocrisy always lol.

Are you guys that concerned for our well being that you need to warn us from DF , and do you think DF fans stop living since they heard about DF?

*sigh ,

muttens

I half expect Darkfall to be the ultimate sham - they release it for pre-order only (full payment, of course)  through their website, charge everyone for the product, delay the release (confirming payment), then shut their doors and vanish.

The other half expects Darkfall to be unlike anything in recent history, and still only being mediocre by normal subscription standards. That may be enough.

Originally posted by stonylein

 

anyway, you forgot what darkfall dont have in common with all those games you mentioned...darkfall doesnt try to be a world of warcraft clone.

 

That's because DF was suppose to be out before WoW

If I look at the odds...We are due.

I dont know if it will be darkfall or not. But I know that something will come down the pike soon and be a hit. Warhammer did ok, but didnt have the 'it'. I expect that Warhammer will continue to grow or something like Darkfall or SW:TOR will rise to the top

OP made some good points. It's called beeing realistic and yet you guys get so offensive.

Seriously we have seen the same show pulled off so many times that we all should have learned out of it. Yet the mmo audience is like a woman that gets beaten by her man and yet always returns to him because he promised that he 'changed'...

Until the wide audience gets it's hand on DF all we have are developer promises and we know what that's worth.

Thanks forumfall,

Everyone takes something sensible and makes it ugly.

I'm just saying that history shows that the devs show us one thing, and often we get crap.  Not everytime but most times !!!

The guy selling watches on the street corner often has a good line to tell us.

Originally posted by page

Vanguard,  Age of Conan, Hellgate London, Pirated of the Burning Sea and D&D Online all sucked very very bad at launch.  Vanguard and D&D took years to fix but now they have low populations. LOTRO and Warhammer gave all that was promised but was boring. 

Why am I stating old news ????.........BECAUSE YOU FORGOT !!!!

I'll say it again..........................................BECAUSE YOU FORGOT !!!!

For the life of me I can't understand you people.  MMO home pages and features on them have nothing to do with real time play....... FLUFF......I was saying this about pre-launch AGE of Conan until I was blue in the face, beta leaks were coming out of the wood work saying the game sucked.  But people continued to get sucked into a home page anyway !!

Two more things that  I don't understand :

1) People getting sucked into dev. photo's and movie clips thinking their real time play, when their just art work and movies "  Hay everyone did you see the new screen shots?  " click on them and it's water color painting's.

2) Game delays........Some people view game launch delays as GOOD they have more time to work on bugs. Well you don't know at what stage of development the game is in.  The game could be so far from development that they are just adding the houses !!!

Why MMO's announce games years in advance is a mystery to me.

Darkfall may or may not be good, but lets remember, remember, remember and don't put all your eggs in one basket and enjoy other games and the great out doors !

/facepalm

you also forgot to mention Asheron's Call 2 and the like. WoW turned out to be pretty successful...

We don't know whether or not DF will be good but stating games that failed for reasons other than the viability of the FEATURES THAT DF OFFERS (they failed b/c they were unfinished, sloppy, and didn't provide all the features they promised) has nothing to do with it. If, for example, you said that full loot pvp will fail because it failed in said game which implimented the feature in the same way THEN you may have a point, but until then...

Originally posted by KidCracken

Originally posted by page

music and movies 3 to 5 years in advanced like MMOs

 

Guns and Roses new album was announced like 5-10 years ago.. it came out a month ago i think..

 

just an example..

actually its very very normal with music..

It was 13 yrs in the making actually. Then again the band did break up.