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12/31/08 11:57:23 AM#21
I'm a fanboy, but get slightly skeptical at times. When I think about the fact that the NDA is in effect this close to launch, and a few other reasons. Skeptics are definately the most popular on thos forum, people who WANT the game to succede, but just don't trust it what so ever, I totally understand that. But yeah, I'm a 'fanboy' I guess, because I believe what's being said about Darkfall, and I believe that it's launch will be a success, and that it will be a quality product, and absolutely amazing game. _________ |
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SupderD
Novice Member
Joined: 11/10/08
Life, left untouched, rewards. Death, left untouched, kills |
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Darth, I understand that english isn't your first language.. And you're not that bad at reading it. However, Please look up the word CRITIC, You'll see that it doesn't quite fit what you want. They look at things objectivly. Also, the majority of your post is written from the perspective of a Fanboi.. that that you have only positive and negative "Luckily I know that while you make nonsnese baiting threads that get locked....threads I make get sticked by the mods on this forum...." -imbant (greatest board warrior EVER) |
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12/31/08 12:20:15 PM#23
Im just excited to see if the Darkfall story ends in standing ovations or heartbreak and misery. Im not personally into the game and just browsing the forum for a laugh. ps. Im not much for happy endings.. I guess that puts me in the category of hater. On the other hand, I wouldnt consider myself a troll so meh.. Voted hater anyways :) |
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12/31/08 12:28:58 PM#24
I would say that I was neutral. It is not possible for form an opinon based the extremely scant amount of information available. There is no reason to disbelieve the devs as they haven't actually be proven to have told any lies, in fact everything that they have been accused of previously has been shown to be false when the full facts come to light. However as a lot of things have not been confirmed yet it is still too early to judge. Best thing to do in my opinion is wait until release and then if there isn't a large amount of negativity from well constructed reports then try it yourself. But then again if you are the kind of person that doesn't like other players having an impact on your game then I wouldn't bother. |
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Azrile
Advanced Member
Joined: 7/29/08
Any new or returning player to WOW, send me a PM for some help getting started. |
12/31/08 1:23:36 PM#25
Originally posted by Blodpls
You are an optimist.. I'm a realist :) I don't want to insult you because you made a good point. But to me it comes down to common sense and a bit of knowledge about how game development works. Yes, maybe they haven't really lied about anything so far, but at some point common sense tells you that what they are promising cannot actually happen... each day that goes by without any word on the beta or without any details about gameplay or payment methods, just leads me to be believe there is no way a real 'feature complete' game will launch on Jan 22nd. They promised things that major developers haven't been able to deliver, and they are doing it without a real beta test? I don't have to explore the north pole to know there isn't some guy who delivers toys to every house in the world on the same night. If you are an ex-wow player and want to come back. Scroll of Rez gives 7 free days, boost a character to 80 a realm and faction change. Send me PM for an invite. Only 1 per day available |
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12/31/08 1:39:15 PM#26
Originally posted by Azrile
The difference for me is that I have never seen anyone do that but I have seen small unknown developers release absolutely stunning revolutionary games on many many occasions before. In the gaming industry it seems to be how it works. Over a decade companies can come from nowhere, become legendary and then go to shit overnight, in the meantime another small developer is forging a reputation to take their place. Big budgets ect don't seem to have any impact on this process whatsoever, I'm not saying this game will be any good but there is plenty of precedent for it. 10 years or 20 years ago major labels were spending 10 x as much as their competitors on games and routinely getting their asses whooped in every department by unknowns, it's no different now. |
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12/31/08 3:05:14 PM#27
Skeptic, but part of me wants to hope so I am. |
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12/31/08 3:39:38 PM#28
im an extreme df skeptic... im a hater of blind fanbois and a hater of tasos and everything that spews out of his lying mouth |
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12/31/08 3:40:22 PM#29
Originally posted by UsedManatee
Your sig pretty much gives it away.
LOL. nice try pewtpewt...everybody knows youre a fanboi... |
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12/31/08 5:40:41 PM#30
Im a fanboy I suppose by these forum standards. But I get a chuckle out of some of the people in this thread labeling themselves as skeptics. Maybe some have swallowed their pride after being proven wrong and now just are skeptics...but good lord if some of us fanboys are going to own up...some of you trolls should do the same and just call yourself haters. Above is a quote of a "skeptic" (OP) which i thought I might share, just to show an example of what kind of attitude qualifies as a skeptic these days. Oh well....happy new years everyone and yay for cheering for games we want to see succeed! ~~ Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296 "The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester "If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos |
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Kyleran
Elite Member
Joined: 9/13/06
A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf |
12/31/08 5:45:54 PM#31
I'm a skeptic and sometimes troll according to some. "Just because you aren't paying doesn't mean it's not PTW." - Amaranthar |
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daarco
Apprentice Member
Joined: 12/19/06
I have Darkfall now! |
12/31/08 5:57:26 PM#32
I really don t get this. Let me explain, i know a few DF haters in real life. And thay all share the same view of life. If i ask them if they wanna go to Thailand for vacation, that say it will probobly suck. If i ask them to try a new dinner place, that say it will mostly taste shit. If i ask them if they wnna try Darkfall, they answer that it will surten be crap. Thats why i cant take people seriously.....people that already have decided that it will suck in every way. Me, i hope it will be the best game i have ever tryed. If not.....who cares?...its a computer game. Its not that much you can care anyway. And why would i be here if i didnt wanna play it? You wont ever see me on the WoW forum! |
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12/31/08 6:14:40 PM#33
I am the epitome of skeptic. I, as would many others, would love for all the promises to be fact. Sadly, many of us have been burnt (for lack of a better word) by the hype and promises of developers and/or PR guys in recent years. I won't mention names in fear of derailing the OPs thread ....... you know the guilty ones. However, I will not lie ...... vaporware has come out of my keyboard more than once in the last six years. I will admit though, Giannas apparent reviews of the beta have helped me at least get a little closer to the fence. I refuse to let myself get excited about this MMO ....... heck, any of them for that. Time will tell, it always does........
~Hairysun~
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12/31/08 6:23:00 PM#34
I chose fan. Theres no in between, but I think sceptic has too much of a negative spin to it. I have no reason to think that Darkfall will be a failure. I am going to give it a shot. No I;m not certain it will be fun, balanced, polished, whatever, but their advertimsements appeal to me. |
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12/31/08 6:28:31 PM#35
I am a skeptic hoping beyond hope that something comes along and makes me a fan. I guess Jan 22, 2009 will be my judgement day for Darkfall. |
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DarthRaiden
Apprentice Member
Joined: 11/20/05
i make art, Forum Terrorist |
12/31/08 6:56:48 PM#36
Originally posted by SupderD
Darth, I understand that english isn't your first language.. And you're not that bad at reading it. However, Please look up the word CRITIC, You'll see that it doesn't quite fit what you want. They look at things objectivly. Also, the majority of your post is written from the perspective of a Fanboi.. that that you have only positive and negative
Same i think about your poll (subjective perspective) cause you don't have given a good description and option to people who wait in a constructive way for the game. Where is the "gamer who want DF to succeed because its an example of a playstyle" they may not think "DF is best game ever". What about people who like the features and want the game to succeed because of that alone ? There are fans a absolutely normal thing.. Whats here is out of proportion is the degree of hate a game receives WITHOUT it even beeing out and had the chance to do something wrong to anyone.. Also you description of the hater is not accurate. Through my poll i have proofed that many hate the game without a reason (they don't even interested in DF) and not like you describe in your option about hater. Also your description to the option 'critic' is depedent on bad(!) experience with other games and encourages the voter to not judge DarkFall on his own merit .. You poll is biased too , thats for sure.. (btw critics don't look at things objectively , hence they know such a thing like objectivity doesn't exist - you should have gone with the term 'pessimist' to describe your option as in "they have a feel it may go wrong " ) -----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- "There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE) |
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sorahitoshi8
Apprentice Member
Joined: 12/29/04
If you believe in Jesus Christ as your savior and aren't fraid to admit it, put this in your siggie. |
12/31/08 7:01:52 PM#37
im indifferent ill wait till jan 22 see how it is |
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Label_This
Novice Member
Joined: 12/11/08
The MMO industry really needs more adult orientated games :( |
12/31/08 7:04:09 PM#38
I don't see an option to declare oneself drunk, but that is my dcision and i refuse to let anyone change my mind!
*hic* happy new year gamers Why are there so many cutesie, fantasy, childish MMO's. Give me blood, gore and a long lasting challenge. I don't need my hand being held along the way. Thanks. |
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12/31/08 7:09:11 PM#39
Originally posted by Xiliaro
Skeptic is more a neutral and objective term... maybe you're thinking cynical as a more negative term... anywhooooo I too am insterested in DF, I saw one vid on it that looked decent... again not antyhing to blow my socks off but decent to try it out at least. I guess only actual gameplay will determine whetther it sux or not... that is if it's ever released (i hope) |
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12/31/08 7:12:02 PM#40
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Same i think about your poll (subjective perspective) cause you don't have given a good description and option to people who wait in a constructive way for the game. Where is the "gamer who want DF to succeed because its an example of a playstyle" they may not think "DF is best game ever". What about people who like the features and want the game to succeed because of that alone ? There are fans a absolutely normal thing.. Whats here is out of proportion is the degree of hate a game receives WITHOUT it even beeing out and had the chance to do something wrong to anyone.. Also you description of the hater is not accurate. Through my poll i have proofed that many hate the game without a reason (they don't even interested in DF) and not like you describe in your option about hater. Also your description to the option 'critic' is depedent on bad(!) experience with other games and encourages the voter to not judge DarkFall on his own merit .. You poll is biased too , thats for sure.. (btw critics don't look at things objectively , hence they know such a thing like objectivity doesn't exist)
Personally, I don't want DF to succeed nor fail, any game should do that on it own merrit once it's released to the public. |
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