Tanking is for sissies.

Get up in their face and pew pew everything before they can kill you.

Disposable Catalysts FTW?

Originally posted by theArcangel

I'm sorry, but the article is frankly horrible. It is shallow at best, incomplete in places and incorrect at worst

<<<much better guide>>>

The OP deserves a bit of credit for trying, but like Arcangel says, the article is terribly lacking. It's commonly known that tanking is divided between active and buffer tanking, which in turn is divided in shields and armour based on the combination of your ship and skills. Not to mention that you don't always need a tank at all, because ewar, raw speed or raw dps can keep you alive instead.
 

1) Skip the original article.
2) Read theArcangel's post.
3) Profit!

I re-read it twice before replying with my thoughts, also read all the comments above.

The article wouldn't be that bad if it didn't have completely wrong information (Compensation Skills for example, but everyone else covered that above).  If this was read by someone considering starting, or someone who has only been playing a short time, or (lol) someone who buys a character - it would be relatively informative and supply enough basic information on tanking to be worthwhile.

For those of us that have been playing EvE for some time - of course it's a slap in the face.  I won't go into detail as that has already been done above.

Letter to the Editor:  Come on!  Anyone who has been around MMORPG.com for any amount of time knows posting an article about EvE is going to get views and going to be critiqued much more so than an article based on a different game.  Sorry, but I feel you - the editor - have almost as much responsibility for the enraged fanbois above as the writer.  

gl hf o7

I read most of Jons articles, commentaries, and Videos, and find them informative and spot on..

Lets just chalk this one up to a Holiday hangover or perhaps just a hangover..

I don't recall Jon Wood, being or claiming to omnipotent, and anyting other than human..

That said, in the greatest respect, He is an EVE Noob, fresh off the EVE learning cliff, and I beleive you were pushed off by, hopefully, someone in a starter corp... If your in a player corp please let me know whom they are, I would like to war dec, and get few kills under my belt..

Originally posted by Drazio

If your in a player corp please let me know whom they are, I would like to war dec, and get few kills under my belt..

 

I'll join ya.

Yeah..as to on-topic, I second the idea of the article-writer consulting  us before posting!

Originally posted by Drazio

I read most of Jons articles, commentaries, and Videos, and find them informative and spot on..

Lets just chalk this one up to a Holiday hangover or perhaps just a hangover..

I don't recall Jon Wood, being or claiming to omnipotent, and anyting other than human..

That said, in the greatest respect, He is an EVE Noob, fresh off the EVE learning cliff, and I beleive you were pushed off by, hopefully, someone in a starter corp... If your in a player corp please let me know whom they are, I would like to war dec, and get few kills under my belt..

 

This wasn't written by Jon. It was written by the EVE correspondent - of which one of the requirements stated "Must be an active player and knowledgeable about your assigned game." Source

The errors shown in the article aren't merely down to opinion - they are fundamentally wrong, and that's what people are complaining about.

I bet right about now, Jon has his hand on his head and is wondering how to deal with this astounding fuckup. lol

I did not expect something like this from mmorpg.com  ,all mistakes already pointed .Can we hope a fix to article

I was just going to point out the same thing with the compensation skills as Nyphur already did. I have been trying out the passive shield tanking versus active shield tanking for a while, and can honestly say that it was hard to read this article, which presented almost no useful information, and inspired me to post for my first time, simply to point that out.

Thanks to those that provided more intel on tanking. You are appreciated.

Originally posted by AranStormah

Originally posted by theArcangel

I'm sorry, but the article is frankly horrible. It is shallow at best, incomplete in places and incorrect at worst

<<<much better guide>>>

The OP deserves a bit of credit for trying, but like Arcangel says, the article is terribly lacking. It's commonly known that tanking is divided between active and buffer tanking, which in turn is divided in shields and armour based on the combination of your ship and skills. Not to mention that you don't always need a tank at all, because ewar, raw speed or raw dps can keep you alive instead.
 

That's like saying the kid who failed a class in school deserves credit for trying despite failing to the meet the standard.  Or me telling my boss I should still get paid (IRL) if I fail to fix some broken piece of comms equipment because, hey, I tried.

This article doesn't just fail to meet the standard I'd expect the biggest non-game-specific MMO site on the internet to hold themselves to, it shows an obvious lack of any kind of research.  The author asking anyone who's played Eve more than a month for feedback before posting could have improved this article to an acceptable level.

In response to the op's tthread......miners and traders are screwed if they have use thier skills to figure out thier Tanking skills LOL!! If...IF they train more industry skills than combat that is. LOL

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Originally posted by theArcangel

Shield buffer tank: Fleet Rokh (because the Rokh is a great fleet sniper but a horrible armor tank. It's pretty much the only shield tanked battleship in nullsec fleets)

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Nah, Mael has one of the best tank amongst BS. And it's a shield tank... Yes, it's not a buffer but still shield.

He should of just check eve online forums. It had one of the most complete tanking guides of the game in it that i have seen so far. It is very informative and everyone should go check it out.

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=319967

Link above to the eve online forum post.

What I don't understand is, with the wealth of information about different types of tanking in Eve on the net, how could anyone write such a poorly thought out article?  I don't want to discourage people from writing guest articles, but please know at least something about your topic.  This author knew just about nothing about the topic.  Almost anyone after playing the 14 trial should have a better grasp of tanking in Eve than this author.

I know it is hard to review articles writtten by guests with so many MMO's out there, but this one was just so wrong in just about everything it is almost inexcusable that this slipped through.

I've never been one for posting on forums but this article, for a lack of a better word, made me sign up for account so I could say something. Nothing that is written in it is correct . I don't need to expound on it since others have already.  I can't belive this discraseful pieece of trash is still posted.

When you pick correpondents please check how long did they actually played that game...especially for older mmos and not only the writing skills...

At this stage, the only question that remains is : when is this article going to be thoroughly edited ?

Bonus question : how long has the correspondent been playing EvE ?

While some of the Information is ok, and the spirit of this write good.

I have to agree with many here that the tanking type is decided by the ship first and foremost, then Skills.

Galente and Amar have primarily Armor tanking Ships

Caldari and Minmatar have primarily Shield tanking Ships (albeit Minmatar can be more flxible than others)

And engineering power related Skills is equally important to both Armor or Shield tanking, so to draw a clear Engineering=Shiled tank and Mechanics=Armor tank line, can be a bit misleading.

All in all, there is many skills involved to efficiently Tank in EVE, and one has to expect several months of gameplay before reaching the efficient levels.

Then again EVE is a very slow paced, long term Character leveling game (and while I know some may not like the term "leveling", EVE is a Level based game in my opinion, it is just that you don't see the number of your levels, but in essence, the longer you play the more skills you have and the more skills you have the higher your level is).

Whomever wrote this article never has played EVE in any serious way.

First off, there are TWO types of shield tanking, Active, and Passive.  The vaguely described method here is the active one.

Also, which method of tank to use, Armor, or Active Shield or Passive Shield is determined by the SHIP and it's slot arrangements.  More midslots?  Ship is a shield tank.  More low slots?  Its an armor tank.  Does it get skill bonuses to shield resists AND has lots of low and midslots?  Then it can be a Passive Shield Tank.

The article also doesn't at all touch on other uses of tank, such as BUFFERED armor tanks which are commonly used on battleships, that don't have any local repair, but use remote repair from other fleet battleships to maintain tank, nor on DOOMESDAY tank.  The author clearly has never left highsec nor pvp'ed.

Originally posted by FelesLXXXIV

The author clearly has never left highsec nor pvp'ed.

 

I question if they ever left the station.