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stayontarget

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12/28/08 11:22:32 PM#26
Originally posted by imbant
Originally posted by ghoul31

The reason there are no beta leaks is because there are only a couple hundred of Tasos's friends and family playing. How are they going to go from 200 to 200,000 in a couple of weeks?

As always...this statement is factually wrong.

Nice to see that we have move past trolling by calling it vaporware and lol 1990s graphics though.

Keep up the hype guys...thanks for keeping DF on the front page as the most anticipated game which helps spread the word.  Couldn't have done it without ya!

You say this statement is wrong, but you don't give a reason way !!!!!!

Why is that !

stayontarget

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Posts: 2801

Girlfriends come and go but Epic battles are Soulbound

12/28/08 11:27:57 PM#27
Originally posted by Evasia
Originally posted by ghoul31
Originally posted by imbant
Originally posted by ghoul31

The reason there are no beta leaks is because there are only a couple hundred of Tasos's friends and family playing. How are they going to go from 200 to 200,000 in a couple of weeks?

As always...this statement is factually wrong.

Nice to see that we have move past trolling by calling it vaporware and lol 1990s graphics though.

Keep up the hype guys...thanks for keeping DF on the front page as the most anticipated game which helps spread the word.  Couldn't have done it without ya!


 

They just said in a recent interview that there were 200 people in beta. So how is that factually wrong?

 


 

They invite people for beta its only all under nda so we dont know how many my gues is around 1000 now.

Sorry, no guessing here please. stick with the facts please.

Still no one can explain why there is no NDA leak, besides the old BS story everyone throws out there.

Arcken

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Posts: 2210

Lets face it, MMOs today are turning into single player console games with a chat box included.

12/28/08 11:31:23 PM#28
Originally posted by stayontarget
Originally posted by Evasia
Originally posted by ghoul31
Originally posted by imbant
Originally posted by ghoul31

The reason there are no beta leaks is because there are only a couple hundred of Tasos's friends and family playing. How are they going to go from 200 to 200,000 in a couple of weeks?

As always...this statement is factually wrong.

Nice to see that we have move past trolling by calling it vaporware and lol 1990s graphics though.

Keep up the hype guys...thanks for keeping DF on the front page as the most anticipated game which helps spread the word.  Couldn't have done it without ya!


 

They just said in a recent interview that there were 200 people in beta. So how is that factually wrong?

 


 

They invite people for beta its only all under nda so we dont know how many my gues is around 1000 now.

Sorry, no guessing here please. stick with the facts please.

Still no one can explain why there is no NDA leak, besides the old BS story everyone throws out there.

99% of what Evasia and his cronies say are either guesses, or unsubstantiated quotes from Tasos, who we all know is the mayor of Honestville.
 

Focker

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Joined: 6/09/07
Posts: 364

12/28/08 11:32:59 PM#29
Originally posted by Enigma
Originally posted by Focker
Originally posted by Enigma
Originally posted by imbant

...thanks for keeping DF on the front page as the most anticipated game which helps spread the word.  Couldn't have done it without ya!

that's actually from the hundreds of darkfall fans creating 1 to 8 alts and hyping the game to 10.  Run an ip checker on that page; 95% of all voters have more than two mmorpg accounts.


 

Im sure the same could be said about the trolls as well.

actually about 5% of all people who voted 3 and under had multiple accounts


 

 where can I find that info from?

Wizardry

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12/28/08 11:49:03 PM#30
Originally posted by Gameloading
Originally posted by precious328

The launch is less than 1 month away and I see no information on entities such as Gamestop etc. Have they mentioned anything on how us westerners can obtain a copy of Darkfall? Moreover, why hasn't there been any leaked footage on YouTube? It's been known that EVERY mmorpg that's in beta has had countless videos and NDA breaks that reside on YouTube. All I can seem to find in terms of Darkfall are a million fan films on the same old video.


 

The game won't be avaible in stores.

It'll only be avaible through digital purchase. Make no mistake, Darkfall is a low budget game. It's a Roma Victor, a Mourning, Dark & Light, Irth Online, nothing more.

Ima be pissed if it beats Duke Nukem out.Long live the king baby !

 

 

 

mrw0lf

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Posts: 922

12/29/08 12:17:08 AM#31
Originally posted by Focker
Originally posted by Enigma
Originally posted by Focker
Originally posted by Enigma
Originally posted by imbant

...thanks for keeping DF on the front page as the most anticipated game which helps spread the word.  Couldn't have done it without ya!

that's actually from the hundreds of darkfall fans creating 1 to 8 alts and hyping the game to 10.  Run an ip checker on that page; 95% of all voters have more than two mmorpg accounts.


 

Im sure the same could be said about the trolls as well.

actually about 5% of all people who voted 3 and under had multiple accounts


 

 where can I find that info from?


 

Would be interested in this info also, without admin on the site I wasn't aware specific ip info was obtainable, general from alexa but doesn't breakdown to ip to a specific page?

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downtoearth

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12/29/08 12:45:26 AM#32
Originally posted by precious328

The launch is less than 1 month away and I see no information on entities such as Gamestop etc. Have they mentioned anything on how us westerners can obtain a copy of Darkfall? Moreover, why hasn't there been any leaked footage on YouTube? It's been known that EVERY mmorpg that's in beta has had countless videos and NDA breaks that reside on YouTube. All I can seem to find in terms of Darkfall are a million fan films on the same old video.

 

hi tenspotting new alt

mcpoopypantz

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Posts: 335

12/29/08 1:19:01 AM#33
Originally posted by precious328

The launch is less than 1 month away and I see no information on entities such as Gamestop etc. Have they mentioned anything on how us westerners can obtain a copy of Darkfall? Moreover, why hasn't there been any leaked footage on YouTube? It's been known that EVERY mmorpg that's in beta has had countless videos and NDA breaks that reside on YouTube. All I can seem to find in terms of Darkfall are a million fan films on the same old video.


 

long time no see tenspotting!!

IAmMMO

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Joined: 5/17/08
Posts: 581

12/29/08 1:30:24 AM#34
Originally posted by precious328

The launch is less than 1 month away and I see no information on entities such as Gamestop etc. Have they mentioned anything on how us westerners can obtain a copy of Darkfall? Moreover, why hasn't there been any leaked footage on YouTube? It's been known that EVERY mmorpg that's in beta has had countless videos and NDA breaks that reside on YouTube. All I can seem to find in terms of Darkfall are a million fan films on the same old video.

 

  Other MMO's have not be developed by a indie development team. DF dev team are not a Corporation with millions for ad campaigns schemes. The other MMO beta tests from Corps haven't actually been a formula for success.


  It's just resulted in a load of teenagers getting beta keys just so they can treat it as a head start and learn the game for an advantage to race to level cap, especially if there's PVP. Big beta tests and ad campaigns has still brought no huge success for many a MMO by much bigger companies.

  Also with how other companies do beta tests you end up with other Corps spy's taking notes doing things like Blizzard did to War stealing features then releasing a patch to add them at the same time the new MMO is released.

 

Lughsan

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Posts: 298

12/29/08 3:49:54 AM#35
Originally posted by IAmMMO
Originally posted by precious328

The launch is less than 1 month away and I see no information on entities such as Gamestop etc. Have they mentioned anything on how us westerners can obtain a copy of Darkfall? Moreover, why hasn't there been any leaked footage on YouTube? It's been known that EVERY mmorpg that's in beta has had countless videos and NDA breaks that reside on YouTube. All I can seem to find in terms of Darkfall are a million fan films on the same old video.

 

  Other MMO's have not be developed by a indie development team. DF dev team are not a Corporation with millions for ad campaigns schemes. The other MMO beta tests from Corps haven't actually been a formula for success.


  It's just resulted in a load of teenagers getting beta keys just so they can treat it as a head start and learn the game for an advantage to race to level cap, especially if there's PVP. Big beta tests and ad campaigns has still brought no huge success for many a MMO by much bigger companies.

  Also with how other companies do beta tests you end up with other Corps spy's taking notes doing things like Blizzard did to War stealing features then releasing a patch to add them at the same time the new MMO is released.

 

 

Good thing Tasos provides all his beta testers Tinfoil hats to stop them from uploading data to their overlords right?

 

imbant

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Posts: 1354

Words

12/29/08 4:29:59 AM#36
Originally posted by Enigma
Originally posted by imbant

...thanks for keeping DF on the front page as the most anticipated game which helps spread the word.  Couldn't have done it without ya!

that's actually from the hundreds of darkfall fans creating 1 to 8 alts and hyping the game to 10.  Run an ip checker on that page; 95% of all voters have more than two mmorpg accounts.

 

cute but....it was looked into and determined that only 28 people were apart of that whole create mmorpg.com accounts and hype nonsense from the forums....try again....

this time maybe try understanding that DF is the most anticipated game right now because it has gained the hype by itself...cant argue numbers....that hype meter has way more 1 votes from people saying lol vaporware....and it still is on top.

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Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296

"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester

"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos

imbant

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Words

12/29/08 4:31:05 AM#37
Originally posted by stayontarget
Originally posted by imbant
Originally posted by ghoul31

The reason there are no beta leaks is because there are only a couple hundred of Tasos's friends and family playing. How are they going to go from 200 to 200,000 in a couple of weeks?

As always...this statement is factually wrong.

Nice to see that we have move past trolling by calling it vaporware and lol 1990s graphics though.

Keep up the hype guys...thanks for keeping DF on the front page as the most anticipated game which helps spread the word.  Couldn't have done it without ya!

You say this statement is wrong, but you don't give a reason way !!!!!!

Why is that !

 

Because it has been proven over and over that people besides "friends and family" have been playing the beta...

Trolling doesn't warrant an in depth explanation...when the explanation is stated and restated over and over with proof on this forum.

~~
Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009

Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296

"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester

"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos

alakram

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Posts: 1176

12/29/08 4:42:43 AM#38
Originally posted by stayontarget

No free download or one month free test ??

 

In my opinion the game will be free to download and with some freetime before asking you for some monthly sub. But its just my opinion.

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mmorpgmaner

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Posts: 177

12/29/08 4:48:40 AM#39

We dont want easterness in our games

downtoearth

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Joined: 2/26/08
Posts: 3175

12/29/08 5:33:53 AM#40
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by stayontarget
Originally posted by Evasia
Originally posted by ghoul31
Originally posted by imbant
Originally posted by ghoul31

The reason there are no beta leaks is because there are only a couple hundred of Tasos's friends and family playing. How are they going to go from 200 to 200,000 in a couple of weeks?

As always...this statement is factually wrong.

Nice to see that we have move past trolling by calling it vaporware and lol 1990s graphics though.

Keep up the hype guys...thanks for keeping DF on the front page as the most anticipated game which helps spread the word.  Couldn't have done it without ya!


 

They just said in a recent interview that there were 200 people in beta. So how is that factually wrong?

 


 

They invite people for beta its only all under nda so we dont know how many my gues is around 1000 now.

Sorry, no guessing here please. stick with the facts please.

Still no one can explain why there is no NDA leak, besides the old BS story everyone throws out there.

99% of what Evasia and his cronies say are either guesses, or unsubstantiated quotes from Tasos, who we all know is the mayor of Honestville.
 

 

are you so sure about that i mean i have the proof on hand but your atitude tells me youw ould go leak it all over

downtoearth

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Joined: 2/26/08
Posts: 3175

12/29/08 5:35:02 AM#41
Originally posted by Lughsan
Originally posted by IAmMMO
Originally posted by precious328

The launch is less than 1 month away and I see no information on entities such as Gamestop etc. Have they mentioned anything on how us westerners can obtain a copy of Darkfall? Moreover, why hasn't there been any leaked footage on YouTube? It's been known that EVERY mmorpg that's in beta has had countless videos and NDA breaks that reside on YouTube. All I can seem to find in terms of Darkfall are a million fan films on the same old video.

 

  Other MMO's have not be developed by a indie development team. DF dev team are not a Corporation with millions for ad campaigns schemes. The other MMO beta tests from Corps haven't actually been a formula for success.


  It's just resulted in a load of teenagers getting beta keys just so they can treat it as a head start and learn the game for an advantage to race to level cap, especially if there's PVP. Big beta tests and ad campaigns has still brought no huge success for many a MMO by much bigger companies.

  Also with how other companies do beta tests you end up with other Corps spy's taking notes doing things like Blizzard did to War stealing features then releasing a patch to add them at the same time the new MMO is released.

 

 

Good thing Tasos provides all his beta testers Tinfoil hats to stop them from uploading data to their overlords right?

 

 

no lol there shitload of leaks in private

downtoearth

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Joined: 2/26/08
Posts: 3175

12/29/08 5:37:46 AM#42
Originally posted by Evasia
Originally posted by ghoul31
Originally posted by imbant
Originally posted by ghoul31

The reason there are no beta leaks is because there are only a couple hundred of Tasos's friends and family playing. How are they going to go from 200 to 200,000 in a couple of weeks?

As always...this statement is factually wrong.

Nice to see that we have move past trolling by calling it vaporware and lol 1990s graphics though.

Keep up the hype guys...thanks for keeping DF on the front page as the most anticipated game which helps spread the word.  Couldn't have done it without ya!


 

They just said in a recent interview that there were 200 people in beta. So how is that factually wrong?

 


 

They invite people for beta its only all under nda so we dont know how many my gues is around 1000 now.

 

ill find out later

The-Nit

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Posts: 32

12/29/08 5:46:10 AM#43

there have been NDA breaks posted on the official darkfall forums.

They were just removed very fast.

stayontarget

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Posts: 2801

Girlfriends come and go but Epic battles are Soulbound

12/29/08 6:04:20 AM#44
Originally posted by IAmMMO
Originally posted by precious328

The launch is less than 1 month away and I see no information on entities such as Gamestop etc. Have they mentioned anything on how us westerners can obtain a copy of Darkfall? Moreover, why hasn't there been any leaked footage on YouTube? It's been known that EVERY mmorpg that's in beta has had countless videos and NDA breaks that reside on YouTube. All I can seem to find in terms of Darkfall are a million fan films on the same old video.

 

  Other MMO's have not be developed by a indie development team. DF dev team are not a Corporation with millions for ad campaigns schemes. The other MMO beta tests from Corps haven't actually been a formula for success.


  It's just resulted in a load of teenagers getting beta keys just so they can treat it as a head start and learn the game for an advantage to race to level cap, especially if there's PVP. Big beta tests and ad campaigns has still brought no huge success for many a MMO by much bigger companies.

  Also with how other companies do beta tests you end up with other Corps spy's taking notes doing things like Blizzard did to War stealing features then releasing a patch to add them at the same time the new MMO is released.

 

Come on, you can come up with something better than that. You are just making up excuses and stories to cover up short comings.

The truth is they want you to buy this game on blind faith.

They said they are going to add more outside people into there beta.....have they ?

They said there will be a free test of the game before you buy it.......Will they ?

downtoearth

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Joined: 2/26/08
Posts: 3175

12/29/08 6:06:54 AM#45
Originally posted by stayontarget
Originally posted by IAmMMO
Originally posted by precious328

The launch is less than 1 month away and I see no information on entities such as Gamestop etc. Have they mentioned anything on how us westerners can obtain a copy of Darkfall? Moreover, why hasn't there been any leaked footage on YouTube? It's been known that EVERY mmorpg that's in beta has had countless videos and NDA breaks that reside on YouTube. All I can seem to find in terms of Darkfall are a million fan films on the same old video.

 

  Other MMO's have not be developed by a indie development team. DF dev team are not a Corporation with millions for ad campaigns schemes. The other MMO beta tests from Corps haven't actually been a formula for success.


  It's just resulted in a load of teenagers getting beta keys just so they can treat it as a head start and learn the game for an advantage to race to level cap, especially if there's PVP. Big beta tests and ad campaigns has still brought no huge success for many a MMO by much bigger companies.

  Also with how other companies do beta tests you end up with other Corps spy's taking notes doing things like Blizzard did to War stealing features then releasing a patch to add them at the same time the new MMO is released.

 

Come on, you can come up with something better than that. You are just making up excuses and stories to cover up short comings.

The truth is they want you to buy this game on blind faith.

They said they are going to add more outside people into there beta.....have they ?

They said there will be a free test of the game before you buy it.......Will they ?

 

actully yea they have since  the mmorpg.com interview there was only a few hundred testers now there around 700

there a press beta starting in the next week or so then open beta is after that and now they dont want us to buy it on blind faith LMAO we will see the game before it releases

stayontarget

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Posts: 2801

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12/29/08 6:15:02 AM#46
Originally posted by downtoearth
Originally posted by stayontarget
Originally posted by IAmMMO
Originally posted by precious328

The launch is less than 1 month away and I see no information on entities such as Gamestop etc. Have they mentioned anything on how us westerners can obtain a copy of Darkfall? Moreover, why hasn't there been any leaked footage on YouTube? It's been known that EVERY mmorpg that's in beta has had countless videos and NDA breaks that reside on YouTube. All I can seem to find in terms of Darkfall are a million fan films on the same old video.

 

  Other MMO's have not be developed by a indie development team. DF dev team are not a Corporation with millions for ad campaigns schemes. The other MMO beta tests from Corps haven't actually been a formula for success.


  It's just resulted in a load of teenagers getting beta keys just so they can treat it as a head start and learn the game for an advantage to race to level cap, especially if there's PVP. Big beta tests and ad campaigns has still brought no huge success for many a MMO by much bigger companies.

  Also with how other companies do beta tests you end up with other Corps spy's taking notes doing things like Blizzard did to War stealing features then releasing a patch to add them at the same time the new MMO is released.

 

Come on, you can come up with something better than that. You are just making up excuses and stories to cover up short comings.

The truth is they want you to buy this game on blind faith.

They said they are going to add more outside people into there beta.....have they ?

They said there will be a free test of the game before you buy it.......Will they ?

 

actully yea they have since  the mmorpg.com interview there was only a few hundred testers now there around 700

there a press beta starting in the next week or so then open beta is after that and now they dont want us to buy it on blind faith LMAO we will see the game before it releases

LMAO a few hundred sounds a lot like 700.    lol

and i guess the press beta will be something like the one at the convention ?

and did they say its a free download or have they not said yet.

downtoearth

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Posts: 3175

12/29/08 6:17:05 AM#47
Originally posted by stayontarget
Originally posted by downtoearth
Originally posted by stayontarget
Originally posted by IAmMMO
Originally posted by precious328

The launch is less than 1 month away and I see no information on entities such as Gamestop etc. Have they mentioned anything on how us westerners can obtain a copy of Darkfall? Moreover, why hasn't there been any leaked footage on YouTube? It's been known that EVERY mmorpg that's in beta has had countless videos and NDA breaks that reside on YouTube. All I can seem to find in terms of Darkfall are a million fan films on the same old video.

 

  Other MMO's have not be developed by a indie development team. DF dev team are not a Corporation with millions for ad campaigns schemes. The other MMO beta tests from Corps haven't actually been a formula for success.


  It's just resulted in a load of teenagers getting beta keys just so they can treat it as a head start and learn the game for an advantage to race to level cap, especially if there's PVP. Big beta tests and ad campaigns has still brought no huge success for many a MMO by much bigger companies.

  Also with how other companies do beta tests you end up with other Corps spy's taking notes doing things like Blizzard did to War stealing features then releasing a patch to add them at the same time the new MMO is released.

 

Come on, you can come up with something better than that. You are just making up excuses and stories to cover up short comings.

The truth is they want you to buy this game on blind faith.

They said they are going to add more outside people into there beta.....have they ?

They said there will be a free test of the game before you buy it.......Will they ?

 

actully yea they have since  the mmorpg.com interview there was only a few hundred testers now there around 700

there a press beta starting in the next week or so then open beta is after that and now they dont want us to buy it on blind faith LMAO we will see the game before it releases

LMAO a few hundred sounds a lot like 700.    lol

and i guess the press beta will be something like the one at the convention ?

and did they say its a free download or have they not said yet.

 

press beta might be something mmorpg.com admins can get into which im thinking they might be allowed to because thats press.

and now the few hundred was the few hundred which was around 300 i asked my friend around the same time about it and thats hwat he told me well it was before the interview actully

Coman

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12/29/08 6:22:29 AM#48
Originally posted by rhinok
Originally posted by Coman

We do not want westerners in our games

><

The Netherlands are part of western civilization, you idiot.

~Ripper

I was being sarcastic toward the OP, as he stated

`Have they mentioned anything on how us westerners can obtain a copy of Darkfall`

indicating that Europe would is not part of the western civilization. I hoped most poeple would have actualy understanded that part, becouse I am pretty sure every european is aware that they are part of the western civilization.

Anyhow,

A link from the official darkfall forum asking the same question.

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=96102

Sinent

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Posts: 125

12/29/08 6:35:07 AM#49
Originally posted by Coman
Originally posted by rhinok
Originally posted by Coman

We do not want westerners in our games

><

The Netherlands are part of western civilization, you idiot.

~Ripper

I was being sarcastic toward the OP, as he stated

`Have they mentioned anything on how us westerners can obtain a copy of Darkfall`

indicating that Europe would is not part of the western civilization. I hoped most poeple would have actualy understanded that part, becouse I am pretty sure every european is aware that they are part of the western civilization.

Anyhow,

A link from the official darkfall forum asking the same question.

http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=96102

Not to derail this but I have always understood that you would be considered european  and in days of extremely old you were westerners (before the discovery of the americas) but now westerners are americas.?  just not sure :)
 

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12/29/08 6:35:19 AM#50
LOL.. if someone wanna get a lesson in blunt misleading..watch the following quote ...
Originally posted by stayontarget

Come on, you can come up with something better than that. You are just making up excuses and stories to cover up short comings.

The truth is they want you to buy this game on blind faith.

Take this assertion .."the truth is" ..poster tries to validate his subjective opinion as objective proofed fact ..nice try ..mister...but too obvious...so whats the truth ? .."want you to buy this game on blind faith"..

Has anyone has been the game offered so far ?  The FACT is NO...

ergo

The truth here is ..a obvious hater want to to mislead you...

They said they are going to add more outside people into there beta.....have they ?

Who the poster is asking ?  he addresses a question to a public we can divide in 2 groups ..people who know the correct answer and people who don't know the correct answer...people who don't know the answer are the "victims" of the posters trick question..cause people who could give the proper answer can't answer cause they bound to the NDA...nice try ..again..  

They said there will be a free test of the game before you buy it.......Will they ?

Poster seems feel now to have you mislead in such a way  then you will have only one answer to this question (although this is the most valid part of his litle hater post) ..he want you to answer : NO ..after his misleading foreplay ..

The truth is all doors are still open for "try before buy" ...and that is still a FACT

 

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