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Sineath

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8/22/08 1:30:47 PM#1

Anyone have information about the overpowered and underpowered classes? 

The Bright Wizard/Sorcerer gives high damage but when you hit them once, you hear the sound of glass shattering.  So, I'm thinking its some melee types.

Douhk

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8/22/08 1:37:11 PM#2

The War Priest and DoK are, as I see, the two most overpowered classes right now for melee. For ranged, it's the bright wizard and shadow warrior.

If only SW:TOR could be this epic...

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8/22/08 1:42:56 PM#3

Warriorpriest (Melee DPS/Healer) + Bright Wizard (Ranged DPS) make a deadly team. Get you best friend, girlfriend/wife to make a combo like this. Its rock.


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SundersGhost

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8/22/08 1:46:39 PM#4

Before people start buying into the Overpower/Underpower hype people start spitting, I counsel you all to consider and keep in mind that Mythic has the classes balanced on a REALM basis, not a personal 1v1 basis.  They have stated very clearly not every class will be balanced and able to stand against every other class.  Just because Class A kicks your ass all the time does not make them OP or you UP.

 

jzuska

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8/22/08 1:49:16 PM#5
Originally posted by SundersGhost

Before people start buying into the Overpower/Underpower hype people start spitting, I counsel you all to consider and keep in mind that Mythic has the classes balanced on a REALM basis, not a personal 1v1 basis.  They have stated very clearly not every class will be balanced and able to stand against every other class.  Just because Class A kicks your ass all the time does not make them OP or you UP.

 

 

The OP thinks this is a WoW clone and does not understand RvR. There are powerful classes. I don't think there are any OVER powered classes. if a DoK tries to melee in a keep siege he's still gonna die.

sp1ltwrung

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8/22/08 2:05:12 PM#6

From the classes I've played in Beta so far the Magus and Engineer seem to be the most underpowered.... at least in RvR anyway.  Problems seem mostly to do with the static nature of the summons which is a real problem in fast flowing fights plus turret LOS problems in defensive situations which overall cause a serious loss of DPS + the engineer needing to hug his turret for survivabilty all seem to contribute.  Some serious changes are in the works for both classes so that may help.

 

Not sure there is a most overpowered class at the mo...although in standoff situations the Wizzies can bring down a world of hurt. 

boomerangx

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8/22/08 2:11:53 PM#7

not gonna get into a big thing..

but i can tell you - magus out of all classes is gimped

I play a lot of games...

Teiman

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8/22/08 2:14:18 PM#8
Originally posted by sp1ltwrung

From the classes I've played in Beta so far the Magus and Engineer seem to be the most underpowered.... at least in RvR anyway.  Problems seem mostly to do with the static nature of the summons which is a real problem in fast flowing fights plus turret LOS problems in defensive situations which overall cause a serious loss of DPS + the engineer needing to hug his turret for survivabilty all seem to contribute.  Some serious changes are in the works for both classes so that may help.

 

Not sure there is a most overpowered class at the mo...although in standoff situations the Wizzies can bring down a world of hurt. 

 

I think  WAR test LOS using  points near the foot, so naturally, the smaller bump break LOS.  Turrets are so not usefull, that is a waste the 1.3 seconds to spawn one.

SundersGhost

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8/22/08 2:21:27 PM#9
Originally posted by sp1ltwrung

From the classes I've played in Beta so far the Magus and Engineer seem to be the most underpowered.... at least in RvR anyway.  Problems seem mostly to do with the static nature of the summons which is a real problem in fast flowing fights plus turret LOS problems in defensive situations which overall cause a serious loss of DPS + the engineer needing to hug his turret for survivabilty all seem to contribute.  Some serious changes are in the works for both classes so that may help.

 

Not sure there is a most overpowered class at the mo...although in standoff situations the Wizzies can bring down a world of hurt. 


 

I think that depends on what aspect of the RVR you are engaging in.  When you need to defend a BattleKeep or other strategic field position, the classes with the ability to put up a positional blocker (Pet or Turret) have a strong advantage.  They also have better range than melee in such situations and those who rely on close quarter engagement are less useful beyond a certain extent.  Every class has its place in WAR.  The Engineers I have spent time with are rather happy over all, tho yes they do need some tweaks above any other clas (Engineer and Magus that is)

Any other class has its strengths and weaknesses.  If a DoK tries to melee with an actual Melee Class (IB, Chosen, SM etc) they will get owned.  If they toe to toe with a wizard or Sorc, they will tear through them... assuming they get to them through the barrage of long range DPS.  That is why this is all an RVR game, not a Solo-centric PVP structure.  In that environment, the classes would be terribly imbalanced.  they work VERY well for the environment they were designed for.  Most of the problems with people thinking a class is OP/UP comes down to the lack of skill and/or understanding on the part of the player.  not the class itself.

 

metalhead980

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8/22/08 3:00:17 PM#10

I love that WAR doesn't have its own official forums.

I won't have to be bothered with these stupid OP/UP posts.

Something that totally destroyed the WoW forums for me.

Thank god I don't have to deal with that stupid shit.

I can find a mature forum that has a small community that isn't a bunch of mentally challenged fanbois.

 

Why would I play a pathetic themepark MMO when I could enjoy a masterpiece like Mass Effect, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Dragon Age?

Bopper

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8/22/08 3:15:50 PM#11

The OP one is the guy who knows how to play

Marchus

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8/22/08 3:46:22 PM#12

Magus, Engineer, and Squig Herder are, or were terrible. BO's are a little beefy. White Lions and Shadow Warriors are kind of middle of the road, some really good skills and some really really bad aspects as well. Everybody is fine if you ask me.

Ghost12

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8/22/08 4:02:28 PM#13

Gosh, the game isnt out yet and people are asking about which classes are OP, which of them need a nerf, which one is better 1 on 1....seriously, wait till the game comes out at least before you start talking about things you know almost nothing about

Honeymoon69

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8/22/08 4:03:16 PM#14

Ironbreaker+warrior priest

 

 

 

SgtFrog

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8/22/08 4:08:35 PM#15
Originally posted by Ghost12

Gosh, the game isnt out yet and people are asking about which classes are OP, which of them need a nerf, which one is better 1 on 1....seriously, wait till the game comes out at least before you start talking about things you know almost nothing about


allot of people are in beta.

mythic need to know what classes are under and overpowerd to fix it and test it by release

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Rabenwolf

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8/22/08 4:21:29 PM#16
Originally posted by jzuska
Originally posted by SundersGhost

Before people start buying into the Overpower/Underpower hype people start spitting, I counsel you all to consider and keep in mind that Mythic has the classes balanced on a REALM basis, not a personal 1v1 basis.  They have stated very clearly not every class will be balanced and able to stand against every other class.  Just because Class A kicks your ass all the time does not make them OP or you UP.

 

 

The OP thinks this is a WoW clone and does not understand RvR. There are powerful classes. I don't think there are any OVER powered classes. if a DoK tries to melee in a keep siege he's still gonna die.

 

No there are actually over powered classes, but thats part of MMORPGs. What really matters is what Mythic will do about them.

Right now destruction is actually at a disadvantage due to the ranged classes that order has from what I am seeing right now in PW. Most of the battles consist of Bright Wizards, Engineers, shadow warrios and Battle Priests taking on every other class with ease. The ranged classes have such large range that they run up throw their nukes and pull back. This usually ends up killing much of the opposing force. While Destruction is by no means in danger of "sucking hard core", but their ranged classes leave much to be desired when opposing Order.

Mythic knows this and already has patches ready for buffing the Magus and Engineer, rather changing how they play so in a sense they are equal but also so classes like the Magus are not cannon fodder to any other ranged class.

PvP is fun though, and there will be class problems. its a given.

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shadout00

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8/22/08 8:28:49 PM#17

Was doing some scenario in Khaine's on Order side, had a level 10 Disciple of Khaine take on 5 of us for a good minute or two. If that isn't overpowered I don't know what is, especially since he killed 2 of us =/

Spaceweed10

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8/22/08 9:17:05 PM#18
Originally posted by shadout00

Was doing some scenario in Khaine's on Order side, had a level 10 Disciple of Khaine take on 5 of us for a good minute or two. If that isn't overpowered I don't know what is, especially since he killed 2 of us =/

 

That sounds like he knew what he was doing, and you lot were clueless.

A definate case of l2p..

checkthis500

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8/22/08 9:24:40 PM#19
Originally posted by SgtFrog
Originally posted by Ghost12

Gosh, the game isnt out yet and people are asking about which classes are OP, which of them need a nerf, which one is better 1 on 1....seriously, wait till the game comes out at least before you start talking about things you know almost nothing about


allot of people are in beta.

mythic need to know what classes are under and overpowerd to fix it and test it by release

 

Do you really think that they're only source for this information is from fans saying what is over/under powered? 

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Fikroc

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8/22/08 9:36:32 PM#20

Whatever makes the solo groupers fade out faster imo. That or learn teamwork =)

Arndur

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8/22/08 9:39:09 PM#21
Originally posted by sp1ltwrung

From the classes I've played in Beta so far the Magus and Engineer seem to be the most underpowered.... at least in RvR anyway.  Problems seem mostly to do with the static nature of the summons which is a real problem in fast flowing fights plus turret LOS problems in defensive situations which overall cause a serious loss of DPS + the engineer needing to hug his turret for survivabilty all seem to contribute.  Some serious changes are in the works for both classes so that may help.

 

Not sure there is a most overpowered class at the mo...although in standoff situations the Wizzies can bring down a world of hurt. 


 

You need to play the enigneer a bit more. Im loving mine. Blasted a goblin off the fort in the empire t1 scenario and fell over laughing wtaching him fly over the cliff to his death. Once I got my t2 armour my engineer became a beast. Me by myself, egh they ignore me, but drop a turret and it becomes kill the engineer.

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SoulMaster64

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12/24/08 8:58:03 AM#22

And what about the chosen? I really like him because hes like a tank, but i havent played. Please, tell me how the chosen combat system works.

armengar

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12/24/08 10:05:37 AM#23

imo underpowered is tanks

overpowered is witch elf(all other melee dps seem balanced)

overpowered ranged dps

armengar

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12/24/08 10:07:47 AM#24
Originally posted by SoulMaster64

And what about the chosen? I really like him because hes like a tank, but i havent played. Please, tell me how the chosen combat system works.


 

you basically twist auras, kind of like the bards did back in eq1 , to be the most effective, but not that easilly done while in rvr combat and you are getting pummeled.

as with all tanks imo they are underpowered

Azmaria

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12/24/08 10:22:28 AM#25

as with all tanks imo they are underpowered

I would disagree most emphatically.  Tanks typically take a small army to kill...which is their job.  Hell, they can even kill things, making them even more effective.  They also have roots, snares, knockdowns, debuffs, party buffs...I don't see what you're complaining about?  Not sure if this is still possible, but not long ago, a good warrior priest and iron breaker could solo a tier 3 keep.  Not really sure how that makes tanks UP.

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