Selling t-shirts for a game, when all that they have to show for it is a single screenshot and a CG trailer?

Is anyone actually hyping this, or are they doing it themselves? - I'd be eager to hear from anyone who thought this wasn't a scam.

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Originally posted by Silkskin
Selling t-shirts for a game, when all that they have to show for it is a single screenshot and a CG trailer?
 
Is anyone actually hyping this, or are they doing it themselves? - I'd be eager to hear from anyone who thought this wasn't a scam.

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Do you have something against selling some t-shirts ?
Does somebody force you to buy them ?

About the hype question, you got problems finding hype of games listed on mmorpg.com ?

ps. r u maybe just another tough guy with high confabulation value, who instead of reading basic infos at the source, starts to sling mud onto everything around ?

i'll feed the troll.

it's a service to fans that want one. i don't anyone on the forums who has bought one. they probably haven't sold ten t-shirts when they've likely spent over $700,000 on their engine.

yep, all these guys are creating a fake game in order to sell t-shirts!
svt.se/svt/play/video.jsp

Originally posted by Silkskin

Selling t-shirts for a game, when all that they have to show for it is a single screenshot and a CG trailer?

 

Is anyone actually hyping this, or are they doing it themselves? - I'd be eager to hear from anyone who thought this wasn't a scam.

LOL I love this guy!

Because of Darkfall now everygame is a scam during development unless they have 50 lame alpha screenshots or 20 even lamer alpha videos.

MO is not a scam... It;s a game in development thats all, and people are hyping it because they like the features listed thats it...nothing more..

I'm no troll. Just their announce date is summer of 09?

I went to the site, I'm not going to try and descredit something blindly. But there's a single screenshot, and a video thats not even gameplay from the game.. There is hardly evidence the game even exists, and it was one of the top hyped games on mmorpg.com. I naturally suspected it was just their staff hyping it, but if there's actually people here who are going to hype an alleged game which is at least 2 years away, power to them.

edit: Hyping a list of features is unnessary, I reccomend you wait until the game is further into it's devlopment before making any conclusions.

Originally posted by Silkskin

I'm no troll. Just their announce date is summer of 09?

I went to the site, I'm not going to try and descredit something blindly. But there's a single screenshot, and a video thats not even gameplay from the game.. There is hardly evidence the game even exists, and it was one of the top hyped games on mmorpg.com. I naturally suspected it was just their staff hyping it, but if there's actually people here who are going to hype an alleged game which is at least 2 years away, power to them.

 

edit: Hyping a list of features is unnessary, I reccomend you wait until the game is further into it's devlopment before making any conclusions.

There was only a single screenshot because the guys at SV don't want to reveal anything that they are not 100% sure will make it into the final release. There are a few more screenshots now, I recommend you check them out.

The video is made using the game engine, it's just not recorded from a first person view perspective. Whether you consider this gameplay footage or not is up to you.

There is a lot of evidence the game exists, major ones being:

* they are on the stock market

* they have bought the U3 engine for their game.

* we've seen footage from inside their office, where we could see the devs working on the game and also got a short glimpse of their alpha build. This was all shown on Swedish TV.

The game is at least 2 years away from release huh? Well, the devs said it's coming out in summer 09. They have not missed a date yet, always very punctual with promised info releases and they were also on schedule with their alpha. Since they have not yet failed to deliver, I really don't see a reason to doubt them... well... other than that you are just jayded and paranoid.

Have a nice day.

I remember back a few months ago on the mo irc channel when some people asked the ceo to open a shop (Well, it was more like : Can we get those T-shirts for free ?). It was the followers who wanted them to sell the T'shirts, not starvault themselfs.

Originally posted by Silkskin

I'm no troll. Just their announce date is summer of 09?

I went to the site, I'm not going to try and descredit something blindly. But there's a single screenshot, and a video thats not even gameplay from the game.. There is hardly evidence the game even exists, and it was one of the top hyped games on mmorpg.com. I naturally suspected it was just their staff hyping it, but if there's actually people here who are going to hype an alleged game which is at least 2 years away, power to them.

 

edit: Hyping a list of features is unnessary, I reccomend you wait until the game is further into it's devlopment before making any conclusions.

Your comments lead me to believe you did little more than go to the site and immediately go to the screenshots and media section. I doubt that you actually read in any detail about the game in the forums or elsewhere. If you had you would have seen when they began working on this title. Additionally, again, if you had been serious in your "research" efforts, you would have found a timeline that is floating out there (which I will not link as you have just as much access to google as I do) that shows their production schedule.

What you seem to be suffering from, and this is only my opinion, is the narrowness of thought that a company can only ever possibly have started working on a game within the few months it was announced. In actuality what the industry is starting to see is that MMO companies are beginning to hold off on such announcements because, honestly, looking at the recent crop of games who announced way back it really hasn't done them any good.

As for recommendations, I recommend you actually go to the MO forums and read, don't post, and educate yourself. Slapping up 50 million screenshots and a few videos is not a mandated part of game production and failure to do so doesn't mean a thing. That said, there are a few more ALPHA screenshots up on the MO site for you to look at. Their ALPHA stage is coming to a close this month and the BETA stage is begining next month (Jan 2009). BETA in 2009 with a targeted release in mid to late summer 2009 (July, August). Provided there are no major issues, and considering how long they have been working on it, that is an absolutly feasible launch window.

**Disclaimer: I'm not trying to convince you of anything, just correcting the opinions you've posted with actual information. Like when you state a video that's not even gameplay from the game and the video states in plain english from the start "Teaser produced using in-game content and technology". I personally couldn't care less if you played this game, or any game.

Bravo bravo

Damn those t-shirts everytime i see them i cant stop myself from buying them!!! dont...have...enough power to hold it back!!!

Now on a more serious note, its merchandise I dont see any problem with it, its like the other million things out there that you can buy like Britney Spears and Nirvana T-Shirts its a fan item if your a fan of the concept you would probably buy them buying a nirvana t-shirt doesnt make you listen to their music better its a fan item you CAN buy if your the type of person who likes to have merchandise of whatever your following.

On a side note, what makes me a bit confident in this game is the fact they have purchased Unreal 3 license, mainly because it is a real investment and it requires Epic to actually look at your company and see if your eligible to buy it. That doesnt mean they wil make it but at least shows me they are serious about development.

Originally posted by Silkskin

Selling t-shirts for a game, when all that they have to show for it is a single screenshot and a CG trailer?

 

Is anyone actually hyping this, or are they doing it themselves? - I'd be eager to hear from anyone who thought this wasn't a scam.

the shirts look cool i might buy one just for the novelty

Originally posted by Balkin31

Originally posted by Silkskin

Selling t-shirts for a game, when all that they have to show for it is a single screenshot and a CG trailer?

 

Is anyone actually hyping this, or are they doing it themselves? - I'd be eager to hear from anyone who thought this wasn't a scam.

 

LOL I love this guy!

 

Because of Darkfall now everygame is a scam during development unless they have 50 lame alpha screenshots or 20 even lamer alpha videos.

 

MO is not a scam... It;s a game in development thats all, and people are hyping it because they like the features listed thats it...nothing more..

 

 

 

I especially liked their alpha combat write-up... very detailed and painted an idea of what combat is like quite nicely... can't wait to see how the "auto-block" triggers during combat :)

Summer of 09 could mean late Septemeber when the autumnal equinox atarts. If the game is near test ready, theres no reason not to believe that it can't be out by that time; howerver, I'd rather have the game in 6month open beta to work out all the bugs first. When will companies learn oh well.

Originally posted by xpiher

Summer of 09 could mean late Septemeber when the autumnal equinox atarts. If the game is near test ready, theres no reason not to believe that it can't be out by that time; howerver, I'd rather have the game in 6month open beta to work out all the bugs first. When will companies learn oh well.

I so agree, and I"ve noticed a lot of mmo's being released in early states more and more each year... yeah they're getting a bit sloppy these days for some reason... one begs to wonder why this trend is happenning of late.

Originally posted by hidden1

Originally posted by xpiher

Summer of 09 could mean late Septemeber when the autumnal equinox atarts. If the game is near test ready, theres no reason not to believe that it can't be out by that time; howerver, I'd rather have the game in 6month open beta to work out all the bugs first. When will companies learn oh well.

 

I so agree, and I"ve noticed a lot of mmo's being released in early states more and more each year... yeah they're getting a bit sloppy these days for some reason... one begs to wonder why this trend is happenning of late.

Simple really. THe publishers only get retuns on box sales. If the publisher has put a good chunck of money into the development of the game they want their retuns as quickly as possible. A lot of the hurt is avoided in situations where the developer and publisher are the same people such as NCSoft, Squarsoft, and Bilzzard, but other compaines have to rely on publishers for mass distubiting and some extra capital and in these instances the publishers says we'll publish your game but its released on X date reguardless of the state the game is in. This happened both to AoC and WAR. I think the reason that DF had a hard time finding a publisher is because they wouldn't sign a contract that didn't give them the control need, and I hope MO did the same.

Maybe its' too soon to tell, but I coudln't find anything on MO's forums about their closed beta date?  Just wondering if anyones got any info on this

Originally posted by hidden1

Maybe its' too soon to tell, but I coudln't find anything on MO's forums about their closed beta date?  Just wondering if anyones got any info on this

No info yet!

Originally posted by Balkin31

Originally posted by hidden1

Maybe its' too soon to tell, but I coudln't find anything on MO's forums about their closed beta date?  Just wondering if anyones got any info on this

 

No info yet!

 

 

We will hopefully know this coming week. The guys are on vacation until January 7, 2009 (i believe it was) and so maybe we will hear something later this coming week or the week after.

Seems that notion about CB tests, being a free gameplay period, is still alive.

Originally posted by joshe

Seems that notion about CB tests, being a free gameplay period, is still alive.

Unfortunatly those are the times we live in joshe. Too many people want to get in to get a "preview" of something that isn't finished and that they are supposed to be helping fix and polish up. Then they just rush out and "leak" information and berate the game instead of doing what they were supposed to be doing.

All that said I can see why companies look to be moving to either professional beta testers or limiting the amount of information they release about games. The bad apples seem to outnumber the good ones most times.

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Originally posted by Khalathwyr
 
Unfortunatly those are the times we live in joshe. Too many people want to get in to get a "preview" of something that isn't finished and that they are supposed to be helping fix and polish up. Then they just rush out and "leak" information and berate the game instead of doing what they were supposed to be doing.
All that said I can see why companies look to be moving to either professional beta testers or limiting the amount of information they release about games. The bad apples seem to outnumber the good ones most times.

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I know that exactly.
Problem with all this wannabe testers is, that they come gaain access to beta (not knowing even the name of game they want to test) find something, which doesn't fit their "taste" (lets say it's bugged, or need to be tweaked/changed). They quit and start to rand everywhere that game plain suck.
No, they won't write I like this and that, something needs to be changed, just game suck and WoW rulz.

Tbh, in last released quasi-mmorpg games devs sucked more.
Didn't even bother to interact with beta testers (interacting with forum members, not only posting statements).

That's why I still can't believe there is a game developement team, which works almost exactly as I would like.

End of my tirade.