Hi there,

Krystar Daymen here again with post number two.  I have been reading various forums about Dark Fall, with us "fanboys" and you "Trolls". 

First of all I would like to thank all of you doubting flamers for helping to spread interest in DFO by continuing to keep the debate going.  I personally have friends that are now interested in DFO simply BECAUSE of all the flaming going on.  Honestly if there were no content to the game, and I have personally seen over an hour of continuous in game play and No I won't tell you how, then there would be no argument to continue. 

I do however ask myself this: if you are so convinced that DFO will tank then why the hell are you still railing about it instead of finding better and more entertaining ways to occupy your time?  That's a rhetorical question.  Now if it's because you (and by you I mean individuals not all flamers) just enjoy trying to make people go emo, then I applaud your choice of entertainment because there is nothing I personally enjoy more or find more amusing than manipulating people to insanity using mere words.  But, if you are doing it out of a genuine sense of HATE for the game...why bother?  I mean it's not like you are going to convince any of us who are TRULY awaiting the rebirth of a TRUE mmo from playing it.  So why waste your time and your finger muscles?  I would say why waste your mental energy but it's obvious from most of your comments that you really don't HAVE any to waste.  So why not just go play your cookie cutter, factory line made poor imitations of what an mmorpg SHOULD be and leave those of us with true talent in a REAL pvp environment alone?  Oh not to mention leaving us alone because we can out craft, out build, out sail, and most importantly OUT THINK all of you put together against one of us. 

I guess what I'm saying is go back to your pitiful virtual worlds where you are safe because of your uber gear which CAN'T be stolen (waaa mommy he stole my +9 sword of noobness!) and where you can't be looted when you die (waaaa what do you mean I can loose all my stuff if I die...that would never happen in real life (lol) and where there are no TRUE repercussions to ANY of your negative actions ( but the guards kill me if I go red waaa).  So please, and I can only speak for myself on this, don't come to Dark Fall if you truely hate it...because to my understanding each server world will only hold 10,000 max continuous capacity and if you haters don't come then those of us who REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK OF A NEW SMALL COMPANY striving to make a good game world where you don't ALWAYS WIN just because you bought the best Cash Shop gear or just because you have a number beside your name that is 20 levels higher than ours, then there will be more room for us...the people who are willing to make the right trade offs for A GOOD GAME. 

Someone, maybe more than one, said it best in a previous post and I agree.  I don't care if the game doesn't have "polished" graphics.  I would gladly trade AAA quality graphics for just decent graphics and AAA quality content and game play.  And if Dark Fall has just half of what they have promised when it's released, it will still be better than 99.9% of the crap mmo's that have sadly become the norm today.

DISCLAIMER:  While the statements in this post are accurate to the person that wrote them, it should be noted that His opinions AND 6 American dollars will buy you a cup of coffee almost anywhere in America.

Thank you, Come again.

So you think Darkfall is better than any other mmo out there and all who play other games are....

Well that is very foolish.

Aion will be 100x better than Darkfall.

Oh and to clarify, I didn't say I believed ALL the promises made...what I said was if is HALF of what they promised.  Also sorry about screwing up that reply to your post.   I don't know why it looks like my reply is actually part of your post that I quoted.

Anyway...if you come to DFO...and I hope you do.  It's on like Donkey Kong. lol

Kill you...loot you...laugh...then friends.  Doesn't have to be in that order but it that's they way a ha a ha I like it a ha.

Ok while I made this topic EXPECTING flamez, let me say this.

No where in my original post in this topic did I say that DFO was better than ALL other mmo's.  What I said was that IF they have even just HALF of what they promised it will be better than 99.9% of the other mmo's out there...you see there is a whole .1% that you have to choose from...perhaps your mmo is in that .1%...I didn't name any names...that would have been stupid on my part, lol.

As for Aion, if you had read my first post under the thread of the European release date of Jan 22 you would see that I too am waiting on Aion.  Aion AND DFO both look great.  I have done a lot of research and talked to people that have played BOTH games...so obviously I think that Aion and DFO will be in that .1% that I was talking about lol.

Digression finished.  Flame On.

You're pretty funny. Please continue the show.

Originally posted by Talin

You're pretty funny. Please continue the show.

Meh, I try.  You know...making people go emo using words, while easy, is very thirsty work...pardon me while I get a drink...I'm parched...oh and my hands need some lotion.  All this typing keeps them dry, lmao.

Aion is truly great.  Anyway I'm not going to flame Darkfall, only in my oppionin Darkfall world (at least on the screenshots) looks kinda....how do say it...dull or boring.  They should make it more interesting.

Also if you lose items when you die, how is it possible to use any good items at all? People will start keeping all the good stuff in warehouse or something because they don't want to lose it. So it will be harder to level up with noob gear. Its boring when everyone will be running around with low lvl items

Originally posted by WaRN1nG

Oh nooo!  Not the uber WaRN1nG from UO!

Go eat some nightshade and crawl back under the hate-wagon would you?

I am a carebear that pretends love a good PvP game as much as any of you believers in Darkfall.

Me saying that DFO will Tank does NOT mean that DFO WILL Tank, now does it?

Don't go thinking that, developers that specifically say that they love UO, actually try to do just that, no no they are probably making the complete opostie game just to spite us, I refuse to believe in anything that anyone says about DFO.  Maybe that is my mistake.

But if you are right, and if your dreams are granted and you once again can live in a free virtual world where you think you can kill me and loot my "+9 sword of noobness", then feel free.  I will cry a river of tears if you are right. 

And when I stand over your foolish corpse that got slain by the "+3 sword of might" while you were drooling over the +9 sword of noobness to kill me for, I will curse Tasos for proving me wrong, and robbing me of my hating rights! I will envy how lucky you got in picking a bunch of cool Visions with no real proof, that I choose to belive in, to back it all up in this game and were correct.  Then I will leave you a note for when you come back to get your stuff off your corpse and see my note.  It will offer to sell you my awesome sword of noobness, witch I bought on e-bay in a game that is based on real life skill and not weponstats, so no matter what I baught on e-bay I sitll sucked.. 

[cries]

 

Fixed that for ya! 

Originally posted by Raitsesman

Aion is truly great.  Anyway I'm not going to flame Darkfall, only in my oppionin Darkfall world (at least on the screenshots) looks kinda....how do say it...dull or boring.  They should make it more interesting.

Also if you lose items when you die, how is it possible to use any good items at all? People will start keeping all the good stuff in warehouse or something because they don't want to lose it. So it will be harder to level up with noob gear. Its boring when everyone will be running around with low lvl items

The good stuff in Darkfall is in the player behind the keyboard..the True MMO gamer.

*shakes head* fanbois always so clueless...

OP, you are really joining the party way too late, we've got more than our quota of fanbois here on MMORPG.com, perhaps you were supposed to go to another forum and spread your wisdom?

You so mis-understand most trolls. We are all looking for a good game, we're just not convinced yet that DF is that game.

Aventurine as gone out of its way to defy traditional game development / marketing models and this hasn't set well with most folks. Probably because few games have succeeded that didn't follow the model. (of course, in all fairness, few games succeed for that matter)

I agree with you, if DF has half of what is promised (though we'll be holding them to a much higher standard) it should be a game thats fun and worth playing.

In the end, I look for fun games to play, I don't obsess over which one is the 'best"

Originally posted by Kyleran

OP, you are really joining the party way too late, we've got more than our quota of fanbois here on MMORPG.com, perhaps you were supposed to go to another forum and spread your wisdom?

You so mis-understand most trolls. We are all looking for a good game, we're just not convinced yet that DF is that game.

Aventurine as gone out of its way to defy traditional game development / marketing models and this hasn't set well with most folks. Probably because few games have succeeded that didn't follow the model. (of course, in all fairness, few games succeed for that matter)

I agree with you, if DF has half of what is promised (though we'll be holding them to a much higher standard) it should be a game thats fun and worth playing.

In the end, I look for fun games to play, I don't obsess over which one is the 'best"

 

You speak for yourself ...most trolls if not all are not here because they interested in DF..

I could quote you mass of  "i am here for to laugh at supporters " or "its always fun to watch a train wreck" or i saw recently a "aion is 100x better then DF" posts

OP got it right.

Originally posted by Raitsesman

Aion is truly great.  Anyway I'm not going to flame Darkfall, only in my oppionin Darkfall world (at least on the screenshots) looks kinda....how do say it...dull or boring.  They should make it more interesting.

Also if you lose items when you die, how is it possible to use any good items at all? People will start keeping all the good stuff in warehouse or something because they don't want to lose it. So it will be harder to level up with noob gear. Its boring when everyone will be running around with low lvl items

Ok.  Let me take a break from my normal raving to reply to this post, seriously.  Raitsesman, first of all I appreciate the fact that your not going to flame Dark Fall.  When I flame other games it's only because those games are not my particular cup of tea.  But the reason I'm flaming them is not so much the game as the mindset of the trolls that started this war of words.

Most are people that once probably wanted to play DFO as bad as those of us that are still interested in playing and have the common sense to realize that AdventurinE is a small, new company with a hand full of devs that had a dream and are working tirelessly to make that dream come true.  People that have never created anything from out of their minds into an actual thing, i.e. writing a novel, painting a portrait etc., cannot begin to know how dificult it is to do so.  I am a writer in real life (even though my spelling and grammatical errors may seem to disprove that, but that's what proof readers are for lol) and I can tell you that it takes incredible commitment to see a creative project through from conception to a final object. 

The haters that were once fans are simply people that have gotten tired of what they percieve to be broken promises on AdventurinE's part.  And this is understandable.  However, given the fact that I waited 5 years from conception of Never Winter Nights to the day when I actually played it I have a unique perspective on the delays.  NWN had a lot of set backs but I never gave up, and when the final product was delivered I was more than pleased and played the game for several years.

I feel it will be the same with DFO.  A long wait but well worth it.

As for the screenshots making the game look dull I agree.  The screenshots, however, do not do justice to the incredible way that the actual game play looks.  I have seen over an hour of continuous in game play and let me tell you that while the graphics are not what most would consider cutting edge today, they still look DAMN GOOD.  The trade off is that while the graphics may be JUST below awesome ( I think they are awesome but I grew up with pong), the systems and content of the game are what's important to me and the core group of people that are hoping the game will be what we've been promised.

All the items in the game will be player made, all the buildings, etc...so it won't be as hard as you think to replace good gear that you have lost because there will be plenty of people playing the game just BECAUSE they can craft almost everything in the game (exceptions being some racial weps, some building's in starting cities etc) So if you loose a weapon or piece of what players would consider "uber", it will be a simple matter of finding a friend who's a crafter or enchanter etc. to make you another one.  Or a simple matter of killing someone and taking theirs or a simple matter of killing enough mobs or players and looting them to get enough gold to replace your equipment by buying it.  I mean honestly, would you rather be able to find a real person that can make you another wep or piece of equipment for just the cost of gold or would you rather have to spend real life money to buy it again from the cash shop or have to kill twenty million bosses in the hope that it drops?

As for players putting the good gear in the warehouse because it will be stolen, this will occur with SOME players.  However since this game appeals to people who THINK that they are bad asses and can take out anyone (and there will be plenty who can walk the walk as well as talk the talk) then that means that there will be plenty of opportunities to try and GANK said players for not just that item but ALL their loot.

There will be tons of ways to replace your equipment that are currently unavailable in mmo's where no one drops anything.  And seriously isn't it more interesting to play in a world where you can hide in the shadows, down wind of someone at nite, shoot an arrow through the back of their skull, decapitate them and not only jack all their stuff but ALSO TAKE THEIR HEAD FOR A TROPHY?  I'm drooling already....blood, blood, blood.

All this being said, if the systems in DFO do not seem like your cup of tea, then by all means play something that is...it's your time, and your money that you will be investing in ANYTHING you choose to play so choose what makes you happy.

Originally posted by Raitsesman

So you think Darkfall is better than any other mmo out there and all who play other games are....

Well that is very foolish.

Aion will be 100x better than Darkfall.

100x better if you like Asian grind-style MMOs you mean...

Dude why do you post if you don't know anything.  Aion is nothing like Asian grinder.

Both Aion and DF will suck. NCSoft cannot make a decent game, and Tasos is an idiot.

Originally posted by KrystDaymen

Originally posted by Raitsesman

Aion is truly great.  Anyway I'm not going to flame Darkfall, only in my oppionin Darkfall world (at least on the screenshots) looks kinda....how do say it...dull or boring.  They should make it more interesting.

Also if you lose items when you die, how is it possible to use any good items at all? People will start keeping all the good stuff in warehouse or something because they don't want to lose it. So it will be harder to level up with noob gear. Its boring when everyone will be running around with low lvl items

 

Ok.  Let me take a break from my normal raving to reply to this post, seriously.  Raitsesman, first of all I appreciate the fact that your not going to flame Dark Fall.  When I flame other games it's only because those games are not my particular cup of tea.  But the reason I'm flaming them is not so much the game as the mindset of the trolls that started this war of words.

Most are people that once probably wanted to play DFO as bad as those of us that are still interested in playing and have the common sense to realize that AdventurinE is a small, new company with a hand full of devs that had a dream and are working tirelessly to make that dream come true.  People that have never created anything from out of their minds into an actual thing, i.e. writing a novel, painting a portrait etc., cannot begin to know how dificult it is to do so.  I am a writer in real life (even though my spelling and grammatical errors may seem to disprove that, but that's what proof readers are for lol) and I can tell you that it takes incredible commitment to see a creative project through from conception to a final object. 

The haters that were once fans are simply people that have gotten tired of what they percieve to be broken promises on AdventurinE's part.  And this is understandable.  However, given the fact that I waited 5 years from conception of Never Winter Nights to the day when I actually played it I have a unique perspective on the delays.  NWN had a lot of set backs but I never gave up, and when the final product was delivered I was more than pleased and played the game for several years.

I feel it will be the same with DFO.  A long wait but well worth it.

As for the screenshots making the game look dull I agree.  The screenshots, however, do not do justice to the incredible way that the actual game play looks.  I have seen over an hour of continuous in game play and let me tell you that while the graphics are not what most would consider cutting edge today, they still look DAMN GOOD.  The trade off is that while the graphics may be JUST below awesome ( I think they are awesome but I grew up with pong), the systems and content of the game are what's important to me and the core group of people that are hoping the game will be what we've been promised.

All the items in the game will be player made, all the buildings, etc...so it won't be as hard as you think to replace good gear that you have lost because there will be plenty of people playing the game just BECAUSE they can craft almost everything in the game (exceptions being some racial weps, some building's in starting cities etc) So if you loose a weapon or piece of what players would consider "uber", it will be a simple matter of finding a friend who's a crafter or enchanter etc. to make you another one.  Or a simple matter of killing someone and taking theirs or a simple matter of killing enough mobs or players and looting them to get enough gold to replace your equipment by buying it.  I mean honestly, would you rather be able to find a real person that can make you another wep or piece of equipment for just the cost of gold or would you rather have to spend real life money to buy it again from the cash shop or have to kill twenty million bosses in the hope that it drops?

As for players putting the good gear in the warehouse because it will be stolen, this will occur with SOME players.  However since this game appeals to people who THINK that they are bad asses and can take out anyone (and there will be plenty who can walk the walk as well as talk the talk) then that means that there will be plenty of opportunities to try and GANK said players for not just that item but ALL their loot.

There will be tons of ways to replace your equipment that are currently unavailable in mmo's where no one drops anything.  And seriously isn't it more interesting to play in a world where you can hide in the shadows, down wind of someone at nite, shoot an arrow through the back of their skull, decapitate them and not only jack all their stuff but ALSO TAKE THEIR HEAD FOR A TROPHY?  I'm drooling already....blood, blood, blood.

All this being said, if the systems in DFO do not seem like your cup of tea, then by all means play something that is...it's your time, and your money that you will be investing in ANYTHING you choose to play so choose what makes you happy.

Sorry to quote your whole post, but its worth it.  I'd have to say this is a very refreshing read from the other one liners i've forced myself to read the past few months.  Feel free to post more if you have the time.  I'll always be willing to read it.

Originally posted by Raitsesman

Dude why do you post if you don't know anything.  Aion is nothing like Asian grinder.

 Even if Aion is not a grinder (which it is), the combat still looks like a Pokemon cartoon. Please never compare Aion to DFO again. I'm sure there are lots of people in the Toontown online forums that would love to talk about Aion with you, thx.

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Originally posted by KrystDaymen
Hi there,
Krystar Daymen here again with post number two.  I have been reading various forums about Dark Fall, with us "fanboys" and you "Trolls". 
First of all I would like to thank all of you doubting flamers for helping to spread interest in DFO by continuing to keep the debate going.  I personally have friends that are now interested in DFO simply BECAUSE of all the flaming going on.  Honestly if there were no content to the game, and I have personally seen over an hour of continuous in game play and No I won't tell you how, then there would be no argument to continue. 
I do however ask myself this: if you are so convinced that DFO will tank then why the hell are you still railing about it instead of finding better and more entertaining ways to occupy your time?  That's a rhetorical question.  Now if it's because you (and by you I mean individuals not all flamers) just enjoy trying to make people go emo, then I applaud your choice of entertainment because there is nothing I personally enjoy more or find more amusing than manipulating people to insanity using mere words.  But, if you are doing it out of a genuine sense of HATE for the game...why bother?  I mean it's not like you are going to convince any of us who are TRULY awaiting the rebirth of a TRUE mmo from playing it.  So why waste your time and your finger muscles?  I would say why waste your mental energy but it's obvious from most of your comments that you really don't HAVE any to waste.  So why not just go play your cookie cutter, factory line made poor imitations of what an mmorpg SHOULD be and leave those of us with true talent in a REAL pvp environment alone?  Oh not to mention leaving us alone because we can out craft, out build, out sail, and most importantly OUT THINK all of you put together against one of us. 
I guess what I'm saying is go back to your pitiful virtual worlds where you are safe because of your uber gear which CAN'T be stolen (waaa mommy he stole my +9 sword of noobness!) and where you can't be looted when you die (waaaa what do you mean I can loose all my stuff if I die...that would never happen in real life (lol) and where there are no TRUE repercussions to ANY of your negative actions ( but the guards kill me if I go red waaa).  So please, and I can only speak for myself on this, don't come to Dark Fall if you truely hate it...because to my understanding each server world will only hold 10,000 max continuous capacity and if you haters don't come then those of us who REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK OF A NEW SMALL COMPANY striving to make a good game world where you don't ALWAYS WIN just because you bought the best Cash Shop gear or just because you have a number beside your name that is 20 levels higher than ours, then there will be more room for us...the people who are willing to make the right trade offs for A GOOD GAME. 
Someone, maybe more than one, said it best in a previous post and I agree.  I don't care if the game doesn't have "polished" graphics.  I would gladly trade AAA quality graphics for just decent graphics and AAA quality content and game play.  And if Dark Fall has just half of what they have promised when it's released, it will still be better than 99.9% of the crap mmo's that have sadly become the norm today.
DISCLAIMER:  While the statements in this post are accurate to the person that wrote them, it should be noted that His opinions AND 6 American dollars will buy you a cup of coffee almost anywhere in America.
Thank you, Come again.

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Well...here is DF fanboi representative #12235212 with a long enough post of nothingness that puts me to sleep. even though I don't understand why people are dumb enough to keep doing this, but I will continue to tell each of them the same thing: no one really cares about what you have to say....especially me. I can't really respond to your lengthly post because I didn't read any of it. After the lousy, yet typical, introduction I realized what you were and decided to make this post. Anyway, nice try...now i will wait for the next one to come around.

Originally posted by gamerman98

 

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Originally posted by KrystDaymen
Hi there,
Krystar Daymen here again with post number two.  I have been reading various forums about Dark Fall, with us "fanboys" and you "Trolls". 
First of all I would like to thank all of you doubting flamers for helping to spread interest in DFO by continuing to keep the debate going.  I personally have friends that are now interested in DFO simply BECAUSE of all the flaming going on.  Honestly if there were no content to the game, and I have personally seen over an hour of continuous in game play and No I won't tell you how, then there would be no argument to continue. 
I do however ask myself this: if you are so convinced that DFO will tank then why the hell are you still railing about it instead of finding better and more entertaining ways to occupy your time?  That's a rhetorical question.  Now if it's because you (and by you I mean individuals not all flamers) just enjoy trying to make people go emo, then I applaud your choice of entertainment because there is nothing I personally enjoy more or find more amusing than manipulating people to insanity using mere words.  But, if you are doing it out of a genuine sense of HATE for the game...why bother?  I mean it's not like you are going to convince any of us who are TRULY awaiting the rebirth of a TRUE mmo from playing it.  So why waste your time and your finger muscles?  I would say why waste your mental energy but it's obvious from most of your comments that you really don't HAVE any to waste.  So why not just go play your cookie cutter, factory line made poor imitations of what an mmorpg SHOULD be and leave those of us with true talent in a REAL pvp environment alone?  Oh not to mention leaving us alone because we can out craft, out build, out sail, and most importantly OUT THINK all of you put together against one of us. 
I guess what I'm saying is go back to your pitiful virtual worlds where you are safe because of your uber gear which CAN'T be stolen (waaa mommy he stole my +9 sword of noobness!) and where you can't be looted when you die (waaaa what do you mean I can loose all my stuff if I die...that would never happen in real life (lol) and where there are no TRUE repercussions to ANY of your negative actions ( but the guards kill me if I go red waaa).  So please, and I can only speak for myself on this, don't come to Dark Fall if you truely hate it...because to my understanding each server world will only hold 10,000 max continuous capacity and if you haters don't come then those of us who REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK OF A NEW SMALL COMPANY striving to make a good game world where you don't ALWAYS WIN just because you bought the best Cash Shop gear or just because you have a number beside your name that is 20 levels higher than ours, then there will be more room for us...the people who are willing to make the right trade offs for A GOOD GAME. 
Someone, maybe more than one, said it best in a previous post and I agree.  I don't care if the game doesn't have "polished" graphics.  I would gladly trade AAA quality graphics for just decent graphics and AAA quality content and game play.  And if Dark Fall has just half of what they have promised when it's released, it will still be better than 99.9% of the crap mmo's that have sadly become the norm today.
DISCLAIMER:  While the statements in this post are accurate to the person that wrote them, it should be noted that His opinions AND 6 American dollars will buy you a cup of coffee almost anywhere in America.
Thank you, Come again.

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Well...here is DF fanboi representative #12235212 with a long enough post of nothingness that puts me to sleep. even though I don't understand why people are dumb enough to keep doing this, but I will continue to tell each of them the same thing: no one really cares about what you have to say....especially me. I can't really respond to your lengthly post because I didn't read any of it. After the lousy, yet typical, introduction I realized what you were and decided to make this post. Anyway, nice try...now i will wait for the next one to come around.

Im curious myself as to whats causing the bandwagon effect Im seeing with new fanbois as of late. Apparently its easier to like DFO when you havent been waiting for the better part of a decade for it to come out.

Umm...if you "don't care' about what I had to say then why did you waste ten minutes of your life that you will never get back on telling me something that I DON'T CARE ABOUT? 

LOL seems kind of pointless don't you think? 

Originally posted by KrystDaymen

Umm...if you "don't care' about what I had to say then why did you waste ten minutes of your life that you will never get back on telling me something that I DON'T CARE ABOUT? 

LOL seems kind of pointless don't you think? 

Careful now, looking for a point when your OP was pretty much pointless isn't really fair or reasonable, don't  you think?

Originally posted by Raitsesman

Aion is truly great.  Anyway I'm not going to flame Darkfall, only in my oppionin Darkfall world (at least on the screenshots) looks kinda....how do say it...dull or boring.  They should make it more interesting.

Also if you lose items when you die, how is it possible to use any good items at all? People will start keeping all the good stuff in warehouse or something because they don't want to lose it. So it will be harder to level up with noob gear. Its boring when everyone will be running around with low lvl items

You're stuck in uber PvE loot mode mate. Every item in Darkfall is supposed to be player craftable, and the gear is'nt supposed to have a huge impact on the gameplay.

Oh and Aion, while it looks visually awesome, I'm expecting it be another PvE boring grind-fest .... with wings.

Hmm I read the original post. I see a post that is Flaming the flamers.  People always ask the same question as if they have made some huge discovery or gained some strange new insight into the minds of flamers(i'm speaking of the question "If you think this game is going to tank, why do you spend all your time here arguing"). The answer is simple they want to try this game just to see if they are right, and people hate to lose an argument pure and simple.  Neither side wants to lose the argument so it goes on and on and the rest of us have to sort through the posts to find an actual discussion rather than another argument that no one cares about other than the two or three people involved.  Good luck with your argument here...I mean your general discussion. 

 There is only one solid reason to come to the DF forums... to see all the drama! It sort of bides the time until actual relase. Though even then I aint buying till I see what state the forums is in. Actually more like ... who survives 

But seriously I a loving the quality of the fanbois and trolls for this game. It is simply bliss ! ... and I am still making the popcorn for the 22nd.