I wouldn't be surprised to see MO release before darkfall, lol. We'll see in a month though. Wonder what the excuse will be. market conditions? hmm they used that one already. Oh, maybe government issues since it has to go through the greek government.

I'm excited to see what the new excuse is!

All joking aside, I just have no confidence in a DF release until I actually see the game out. Probably won't play it until there is free trial anyway since I just don't trust the product. Can't blame me or others really either.

well you have time to try both, Darkfall will be out soon and if that fails then you will have a long while before Mortal comes out.

well, 5 day free pass on EVE now, for old players. supposedly new graphics and walk-in stations in March.

Thinking.. :-)

I hope that both DF and MO do great but i have my doubts.

well i dont think ethier of them will do great but i think they will both have alot of people at launch, Darkfall because of the PvP, and Mortal because people are going to want to experiance the first person view, and they also stated that when you die and stuff you fall to the ground and your eyes close and stuff so its kinda like a medevl simulation mmo.

I am looking foward to Mortal Online. I just think the game will be more polished and will deliver what they say. Mortal Online will not have FPS combat because thats the worst style of combat to put in a MMO. Darkfall just looks crappy and the game is supposed to come out in a month yet I still have not seen anything from trusted sites like IGN and Gamespot.  

i feel that both games will be equally awesome.

DF will be more pvp i think (crafting/economy/diplomacy will be better), while MO will be more tasty for pvers (muuuuch better graphics, items one of a kind on whole servers, named mobs that dont respawn)

I will surely try both, but i put big emphasis on graphics in mmo, so to me MO has better chances to win my heart.

so they say there isnt to many people that are even in beta for it.

i believe mortal is just gonna be darkfall with better graphics

now, darkfall is made by an independant developer. mostly comprised gamers who wants a good game (based on the original ultima) i believe. and i think mortal's dev team is mostly for people who help develop ultima, wanting to remake ultima...just better overall.

Originally posted by Evasia

If you not have lived under a rock its clear mortal is just a copy of Darkfall.

And Darkfall is build around engine the devs of aventurine have developed themselfs with core pvp.

Darkfall was first announce 2001 was totally rebuild around 2003 and will be released around 22nd of jan 2009.

Mortal online first announce april 2008 and release date tba 2010 11 12?

Build on a engine for fps shooters lol.

I cant say at moment who eventually will be most succesfull, but my money is clearly on Darkfall:)

Spellborn is built on a modified Unreal engine so why not?  That is surely not the answer to which game will be the best.

I don't take bets that unsecure anyways... And to me DF sounds in many ways like a copy of UO, but in this bussiness copys can do pretty well. At launch Wow was a copy of EQ. That doesn't prove anything either.

Both games can go very well or fail misarably, at all depends how good they are at launch.

Originally posted by Korvenus

 I still have not seen anything from trusted sites like IGN and Gamespot.  

Is that suppose to be some kind of sick joke?

I have my doubts if there's enough markets for both DF and MO, as FFA/loot PvP games I mean. If they both manage to launch in a playable condition, then me thinks either one has to change their focus to more softcore PvP.

I still have my doubts about how well Unreal engine handless large PvP battles, like sieges. But same goes for DF engine of course.

LOL, all the game sites suck for reviews but I am talking about previews. I would love to a see a preview or hear from one of them talking about there time spent playing the game or going to the company that makes Darkfall and then tell us how the game is progressing.

that would be nice.

Funny, both of these games are just a copy of UO pre-Trammel.  Silly to argue over which is better until they come out. 

Personally, I have very little confidence that Darkfall will be that successful.  Aventurine has not be very forthcoming with game and beta details.  They have refused to let any respected reviewer look at it.  Pretty good evidence they have flaws to hide.  How bad those flaws are, remain to be seen, but those hoping for a great game will most probably be very disappointed.

I agree totally.