Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by rageagainst

 

 I KNOW that they were feature complete technically in 03 until they planned to push it back b/c they stumbled on money and wanted to increase the scope of the game.

 

You don't KNOW shit except for what Tasos has fed you. Wanna say you know? Tell us how you PERSONALLY know.

well yea on 03 with the old game all the main features where in

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by rageagainst

 

 I KNOW that they were feature complete technically in 03 until they planned to push it back b/c they stumbled on money and wanted to increase the scope of the game.

 

You don't KNOW shit except for what Tasos has fed you. Wanna say you know? Tell us how you PERSONALLY know.

 

well yea on 03 with the old game all the main features where in

And how would anyone know? NOONE seen or played the old version, so how are you or anyone gfoing to say for a certainty it was complete? I'm just tired of seeing I KNOW this, I KNOW that, from both sides of the damn argument. Speculation, presenting evidence for and against is fine, but NOONE knows a damn thing except Aventurine.

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by rageagainst

 

 I KNOW that they were feature complete technically in 03 until they planned to push it back b/c they stumbled on money and wanted to increase the scope of the game.

 

You don't KNOW shit except for what Tasos has fed you. Wanna say you know? Tell us how you PERSONALLY know.

 

well yea on 03 with the old game all the main features where in

 

And how would anyone know? NOONE seen or played the old version, so how are you or anyone gfoing to say for a certainty it was complete? I'm just tired of seeing I KNOW this, I KNOW that, from both sides of the damn argument. Speculation, presenting evidence for and against is fine, but NOONE knows a damn thing except Aventurine.

brannoc and the mods did way back then

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by rageagainst

 

 I KNOW that they were feature complete technically in 03 until they planned to push it back b/c they stumbled on money and wanted to increase the scope of the game.

 

You don't KNOW shit except for what Tasos has fed you. Wanna say you know? Tell us how you PERSONALLY know.

 

well yea on 03 with the old game all the main features where in

 

And how would anyone know? NOONE seen or played the old version, so how are you or anyone gfoing to say for a certainty it was complete? I'm just tired of seeing I KNOW this, I KNOW that, from both sides of the damn argument. Speculation, presenting evidence for and against is fine, but NOONE knows a damn thing except Aventurine.

 

brannoc and the mods did way back then

Oh, yeah. THERE'S some impartial informants. Sorry, Brannoc and the mods words are worth about as much as Tasos.

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by rageagainst

 

 I KNOW that they were feature complete technically in 03 until they planned to push it back b/c they stumbled on money and wanted to increase the scope of the game.

 

You don't KNOW shit except for what Tasos has fed you. Wanna say you know? Tell us how you PERSONALLY know.

 

well yea on 03 with the old game all the main features where in

 

And how would anyone know? NOONE seen or played the old version, so how are you or anyone gfoing to say for a certainty it was complete? I'm just tired of seeing I KNOW this, I KNOW that, from both sides of the damn argument. Speculation, presenting evidence for and against is fine, but NOONE knows a damn thing except Aventurine.

 

brannoc and the mods did way back then

 

Oh, yeah. THERE'S some impartial informants. Sorry, Brannoc and the mods words are worth about as much as Tasos.

not my problem

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by rageagainst

 

 I KNOW that they were feature complete technically in 03 until they planned to push it back b/c they stumbled on money and wanted to increase the scope of the game.

 

You don't KNOW shit except for what Tasos has fed you. Wanna say you know? Tell us how you PERSONALLY know.

 

well yea on 03 with the old game all the main features where in

 

And how would anyone know? NOONE seen or played the old version, so how are you or anyone gfoing to say for a certainty it was complete? I'm just tired of seeing I KNOW this, I KNOW that, from both sides of the damn argument. Speculation, presenting evidence for and against is fine, but NOONE knows a damn thing except Aventurine.

 

brannoc and the mods did way back then

 

Oh, yeah. THERE'S some impartial informants. Sorry, Brannoc and the mods words are worth about as much as Tasos.

 

not my problem

in 03 I KNOW it was feature complete as well.

Originally posted by mcpoopypantz

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by rageagainst

 

 I KNOW that they were feature complete technically in 03 until they planned to push it back b/c they stumbled on money and wanted to increase the scope of the game.

 

You don't KNOW shit except for what Tasos has fed you. Wanna say you know? Tell us how you PERSONALLY know.

 

well yea on 03 with the old game all the main features where in

 

And how would anyone know? NOONE seen or played the old version, so how are you or anyone gfoing to say for a certainty it was complete? I'm just tired of seeing I KNOW this, I KNOW that, from both sides of the damn argument. Speculation, presenting evidence for and against is fine, but NOONE knows a damn thing except Aventurine.

 

brannoc and the mods did way back then

 

Oh, yeah. THERE'S some impartial informants. Sorry, Brannoc and the mods words are worth about as much as Tasos.

 

not my problem

 

in 03 I KNOW it was feature complete as well.

As feature complete as it is NOW and then they were begging folks to pay for beta.. so....

Originally posted by Lughsan

Originally posted by mcpoopypantz

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by rageagainst

 

 I KNOW that they were feature complete technically in 03 until they planned to push it back b/c they stumbled on money and wanted to increase the scope of the game.

 

You don't KNOW shit except for what Tasos has fed you. Wanna say you know? Tell us how you PERSONALLY know.

 

well yea on 03 with the old game all the main features where in

 

And how would anyone know? NOONE seen or played the old version, so how are you or anyone gfoing to say for a certainty it was complete? I'm just tired of seeing I KNOW this, I KNOW that, from both sides of the damn argument. Speculation, presenting evidence for and against is fine, but NOONE knows a damn thing except Aventurine.

 

brannoc and the mods did way back then

 

Oh, yeah. THERE'S some impartial informants. Sorry, Brannoc and the mods words are worth about as much as Tasos.

 

not my problem

 

in 03 I KNOW it was feature complete as well.

 

As feature complete as it is NOW and then they were begging folks to pay for beta.. so....

 

no not even close

feature complete is a piece of software with having developers state its feature complete. No developer has acted different without the piece of software being ordered beforehand and a contract about exists..hence AoC entered Beta and RELEASED without siegs, $OE releases everything not completed and many many other developers    LOL

Originally posted by Shannia

 

I have it from a good source that Tasos misquoted himself on October 31.  Details on Friday.

 

Link ? screenshot ? mail or phone number to verify ?

you wont get proof on these forums, everyone here makes shit up all the time. Then when they claim to have giving out proof they really didn't (mcpoopypantz for example)

Originally posted by Makestro

you wont get proof on these forums, everyone here makes shit up all the time. Then when they claim to have giving out proof they really didn't (mcpoopypantz for example)

them screenshot sproves what people have been saying but meh well a lil bit of it see all them magic schools

Originally posted by DarthRaiden

Originally posted by Shannia

 

I have it from a good source that Tasos misquoted himself on October 31.  Details on Friday.

 

 

Link ? screenshot ? mail or phone number to verify ?

 

She was being sarcastic. You know, making fun of the fact that Tasos favorite excuse when things happen differently than what he says is usually "I was misquoted."?

I will say that I was disappointed that there was not even a brief mention from Tasos about a new schedule for OPEN Beta when the 15th of December came and went. 

Even just something as quick as:

"We will be re-scheduling OPEN Beta soon".

"We are running a couple weeks behind schedule with OPEN Beta".

"We will be re-scheduling OPEN Beta to be closer to Release".

Any of those would have worked.  But nope... unfortunately it's pretty much the same... silence.  

I could be wrong but the last time I've found that Tasos specifically mentioned the OPEN Beta is in the Oct. 31st update on the official boards.

33 days to go until Jan. 22nd

Unfortunately... still no update on the status of OPEN Beta.

If they are still going to do an OPEN Beta, it will most likely only be a couple weeks long; and it would most likely be finished shortly before they Release.  That would put the OPEN Beta starting somewhere in that first full week in January... IF they are stil having an OPEN Beta.

With that said...

Why hasn't Tasos at least addressed the situation of the previously scheduled OPEN Beta never materializing?

Why hasn't there been an update on OPEN Beta's new schedule?

With only a month before release... if they don't know the schedule for OPEN Beta by now... it isn't going to happen.   Unless of course, a person thinks that the Release itself may be pushed back again.  If that were the case, then I could see Tasos not wanting to commit to a new OPEN Beta schedule until he knows just how far back it has to be pushed back.  Hopefully that is not the case. 

Originally posted by xzyax

33 days to go until Jan. 22nd

 

Unfortunately... still no update on the status of OPEN Beta.

If they are still going to do an OPEN Beta, it will most likely only be a couple weeks long; and it would most likely be finished shortly before they Release.  That would put the OPEN Beta starting somewhere in that first full week in January... IF they are stil having an OPEN Beta.

 

With that said...

Why hasn't Tasos at least addressed the situation of the previously scheduled OPEN Beta never materializing?

Why hasn't there been an update on OPEN Beta's new schedule?

 

With only a month before release... if they don't know the schedule for OPEN Beta by now... it isn't going to happen.   Unless of course, a person thinks that the Release itself may be pushed back again.  If that were the case, then I could see Tasos not wanting to commit to a new OPEN Beta schedule until he knows just how far back it has to be pushed back.  Hopefully that is not the case. 

Any of the above is possible. While I hope they keep the Jan. 22 launch date, entirely possible they will push it back. I doubt they will skip open beta all togeteher though, that stress test is important.

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by xzyax

33 days to go until Jan. 22nd

 

Unfortunately... still no update on the status of OPEN Beta.

If they are still going to do an OPEN Beta, it will most likely only be a couple weeks long; and it would most likely be finished shortly before they Release.  That would put the OPEN Beta starting somewhere in that first full week in January... IF they are stil having an OPEN Beta.

 

With that said...

Why hasn't Tasos at least addressed the situation of the previously scheduled OPEN Beta never materializing?

Why hasn't there been an update on OPEN Beta's new schedule?

 

With only a month before release... if they don't know the schedule for OPEN Beta by now... it isn't going to happen.   Unless of course, a person thinks that the Release itself may be pushed back again.  If that were the case, then I could see Tasos not wanting to commit to a new OPEN Beta schedule until he knows just how far back it has to be pushed back.  Hopefully that is not the case. 

 

Any of the above is possible. While I hope they keep the Jan. 22 launch date, entirely possible they will push it back. I doubt they will skip open beta all togeteher though, that stress test is important.

yeeeeaaaaaahhhh a stress test with only a few hundred people.

But, But, But they can do it with their AI!!!

Shut it.

Zorvin I don't have anything to say about your post i just like the buddy icon/avatar.  You should watch a movie called hogfather and see if that icon looks familiar. :)

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by xzyax

33 days to go until Jan. 22nd

 

Unfortunately... still no update on the status of OPEN Beta.

If they are still going to do an OPEN Beta, it will most likely only be a couple weeks long; and it would most likely be finished shortly before they Release.  That would put the OPEN Beta starting somewhere in that first full week in January... IF they are stil having an OPEN Beta.

 

With that said...

Why hasn't Tasos at least addressed the situation of the previously scheduled OPEN Beta never materializing?

Why hasn't there been an update on OPEN Beta's new schedule?

 

With only a month before release... if they don't know the schedule for OPEN Beta by now... it isn't going to happen.   Unless of course, a person thinks that the Release itself may be pushed back again.  If that were the case, then I could see Tasos not wanting to commit to a new OPEN Beta schedule until he knows just how far back it has to be pushed back.  Hopefully that is not the case. 

 

Any of the above is possible. While I hope they keep the Jan. 22 launch date, entirely possible they will push it back. I doubt they will skip open beta all togeteher though, that stress test is important.

 

yeeeeaaaaaahhhh a stress test with only a few hundred people.

But, But, But they can do it with their AI!!!

Shut it.

I have no idea why you seem to reply to people with out reading there posts. Notice I said Seem to, not you don't.

To me in this case it seems that way because you disregard the portion in red and comment about closed beta.

I will also point out while using the AI along side proffesional testers will help to a degree it will do nothing for a stress test, which is why Open beta is something important. That stress test that comes with Open beta is important, unless you are saying you do not agree I am not sure why you responded.

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by xzyax

33 days to go until Jan. 22nd

 

Unfortunately... still no update on the status of OPEN Beta.

If they are still going to do an OPEN Beta, it will most likely only be a couple weeks long; and it would most likely be finished shortly before they Release.  That would put the OPEN Beta starting somewhere in that first full week in January... IF they are stil having an OPEN Beta.

 

With that said...

Why hasn't Tasos at least addressed the situation of the previously scheduled OPEN Beta never materializing?

Why hasn't there been an update on OPEN Beta's new schedule?

 

With only a month before release... if they don't know the schedule for OPEN Beta by now... it isn't going to happen.   Unless of course, a person thinks that the Release itself may be pushed back again.  If that were the case, then I could see Tasos not wanting to commit to a new OPEN Beta schedule until he knows just how far back it has to be pushed back.  Hopefully that is not the case. 

 

Any of the above is possible. While I hope they keep the Jan. 22 launch date, entirely possible they will push it back. I doubt they will skip open beta all togeteher though, that stress test is important.

 

yeeeeaaaaaahhhh a stress test with only a few hundred people.

But, But, But they can do it with their AI!!!

Shut it.

 

I have no idea why you seem to reply to people with out reading there posts. Notice I said Seem to, not you don't.

To me in this case it seems that way because you disregard the portion in red and comment about closed beta.

I will also point out while using the AI along side proffesional testers will help to a degree it will do nothing for a stress test, which is why Open beta is something important. That stress test that comes with Open beta is important, unless you are saying you do not agree I am not sure why you responded.

are you sure about that?

it really depends if they found a way to cause stress witht here npc/ai it cant be that freaking hard to do but you still a degree of testers to find shit but yea there will be a public beta