Originally posted by Aganazer

Originally posted by nakuma

it was in english.

 

OK thanks for responding. I'm now pretty well convinced that your problem was reading comprehension. I have a hunch that this will be a problem with many people trying to play TCoS.

I have to agree with this because I hardly had any problems with the quests.  It's all about reading and understanding.  If you only trust arrows and markers to get by then there are easier games out there to suit your taste.  Simply put, it just wasn't your kind of game.

 The quests harken back to when you weren't handed absolutely everything, and quests didn't give you a giant blinking red arrow which you could click to teleport you to the exact area you need to be in just in case the huge red blob on the map wasn't precise enough, which is fine for me. I remember the days of EQ where quests consisted of saying the right thing to an NPC, then the quest being  "This rare item drops off something in this giant corner of the world, go find it! 8D". Considering you're given fairly easy and detailed instructions on where to go, I never had a problem with any of the quests. At no point did the game seem overly complex or confusing, it's just different.

The game requires a bit of thought. If that's asking too much well hey, WoW is always looking for more subs. 

im all for bringing the hype down.

i see tcos like eve, a game that has the potential to attract a solid, loyal fanbase and slowly develope.
its like indi-musik yet very harmonic and a lot of players that will check it out without having overhyped expectations may actually fall in love with it.

also for me the last week of small patches showed me that the devs are in controll of their product, something that i missed a lot when the "old" aoc team patch-broke stuff almost on a weekly basis.

Originally posted by Aganazer

Originally posted by nakuma

it was in english.

 

OK thanks for responding. I'm now pretty well convinced that your problem was reading comprehension. I have a hunch that this will be a problem with many people trying to play TCoS.

lol reading comprehension lol dude im from NYC. the game was flat out boring and unfullfilling, had nothing to do with my ability to comprehend english lol. stop grasping at straws. i didnt like the game, leave it at that. lol <face palm> why do you have center on that particular aspect to belittle or devalue my opinion?? the quests werent the only issue, if you "read" my post fully, you will realize i elaborated on other points why i did not like the game. if you can't see that, then thats your fault not mine. Since when is it a bad thing or even worse not taken seriously, when you do not to like something despite giving it a go,and feel it doesnt "play" right, or interest you.

Originally posted by Copeland

 

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Originally posted by Gigget
 There are no "zeros" to choose in any of the poll boxes.

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Because this is not Istaria LOL
 

At least Horizons aka Istaria has real crafting.

Originally posted by nakuma

lol reading comprehension lol dude im from NYC. the game was flat out boring and unfullfilling, had nothing to do with my ability to comprehend english lol. stop grasping at straws. i didnt like the game, leave it at that. lol <face palm> why do you have center on that particular aspect to belittle or devalue my opinion?? the quests werent the only issue, if you "read" my post fully, you will realize i elaborated on other points why i did not like the game. if you can't see that, then thats your fault not mine. Since when is it a bad thing or even worse not taken seriously, when you do not to like something despite giving it a go,and feel it doesnt "play" right, or interest you.

What's really ironic is that I asked you if you played the game in your native language. It was a yes/no question and you replied 'it was in english'. If you can't answer a yes/no question correctly then why should I think that you have good reading comprehension? Being from NYC doesn't guarantee that you have good reading comprehension.

I'm not trying to convince you that you should like a game that you don't like. Nothing anyone can say will make your experience with the game any less boring.

Everyone is equal and they are all the best at everything. If a person tries to say otherwise it inevitably ruffles some feathers.

Originally posted by Aganazer

Originally posted by nakuma

lol reading comprehension lol dude im from NYC. the game was flat out boring and unfullfilling, had nothing to do with my ability to comprehend english lol. stop grasping at straws. i didnt like the game, leave it at that. lol <face palm> why do you have center on that particular aspect to belittle or devalue my opinion?? the quests werent the only issue, if you "read" my post fully, you will realize i elaborated on other points why i did not like the game. if you can't see that, then thats your fault not mine. Since when is it a bad thing or even worse not taken seriously, when you do not to like something despite giving it a go,and feel it doesnt "play" right, or interest you.

What's really ironic is that I asked you if you played the game in your native language. It was a yes/no question and you replied 'it was in english'. If you can't answer a yes/no question correctly then why should I think that you have good reading comprehension? Being from NYC doesn't guarantee that you have good reading comprehension.

I'm not trying to convince you that you should like a game that you don't like. Nothing anyone can say will make your experience with the game any less boring.

Everyone is equal and they are all the best at everything. If a person tries to say otherwise it inevitably ruffles some feathers.

fair enough, next time ill be a bit more specific.
 

Now remember kids. If you havnt played the game chances are you voted anyway.

Look at all of those 10s. That's sad. You think it's the most amazing game ever? It's got some neat features (I have played it quite a bit), a few nice ideas, but it has plenty of the same old stuff mixed in. For a 2008 (2009 in North America) I am setting my bar higher. It's like a 7.5 -- good but not earth shattering. Why do people act like someone is attacking their soul or their firstborn when people are objective and say some of the aspects aren't AMAZING?

Those who spam 10s and talk about how astonishing this game is should be viewed as spouting the same unobjective criticism as those who give it a 1.

I have to say, the state in which mmorpg gamers are in right now is extremely sad. The main fault I hear about in TCoS is that quest's are to confusing and to hard. What the hell haha. They give you a direction and you have a map that should give you all the tools you need to make your questing experience a breeze in TCoS.

It just saddens me that World of Warcraft is tied with warhammer for being one of the easiest games on the market right now. The funny thing is people still use mods like quest helper omfg haha. I swear is the mmo market for the mentally challenged that they make it so damn easy in the first place but they still need more help on F**KING DIRECTIONS!!!!!!!

Originally posted by TRMC

 

An that is what makes it so much of a threat to other mmorgs. No one is saying its the new king. .....

Its not a threat, has the same quest system as wow with a little twist, has the same combat system as wow with a little twist, I doubt anyone should feel threatned by this one.

And I agree with you, its not a wow killer, whenever a wow killer comes, I think it needs a little more then a little twist

Originally posted by MantraDK

Originally posted by TRMC

 

An that is what makes it so much of a threat to other mmorgs. No one is saying its the new king. .....

 

Its not a threat, has the same quest system as wow with a little twist, has the same combat system as wow with a little twist, I doubt anyone should feel threatned by this one.

And I agree with you, its not a wow killer, whenever a wow killer comes, I think it needs a little more then a little twist

Considering that WoW itself was just a clone of its predecessors with a couple 'little twists', I wouldn't be so sure that little twists can't make a big difference.

But yeah, TCoS will probably be a healthy game but never, ever, not even close to a WoW killer.

Originally posted by MantraDK

 

Its not a threat, has the same quest system as wow with a little twist, has the same combat system as wow with a little twist, I doubt anyone should feel threatned by this one.

And I agree with you, its not a wow killer, whenever a wow killer comes, I think it needs a little more then a little twist

I think it's safe to say that the combat system is far more than a "little twist" on WoW's combat.

Originally posted by Exclam

Originally posted by MantraDK

 

Its not a threat, has the same quest system as wow with a little twist, has the same combat system as wow with a little twist, I doubt anyone should feel threatned by this one.

And I agree with you, its not a wow killer, whenever a wow killer comes, I think it needs a little more then a little twist

 

I think it's safe to say that the combat system is far more than a "little twist" on WoW's combat.

i agree

i wonder if it takes a virtual reality cave that tracks your body movement and translates it to your avatar to be considdered an innovative combat system.

aocs, tcos and ddos "action combat system" is different from wows/wars click and wait combat just as atlantica onlines turn based combat is

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Originally posted by MantraDK

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Originally posted by TRMC

 
An that is what makes it so much of a threat to other mmorgs. No one is saying its the new king. .....

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Its not a threat, has the same quest system as wow with a little twist, has the same combat system as wow with a little twist, I doubt anyone should feel threatned by this one.
And I agree with you, its not a wow killer, whenever a wow killer comes, I think it needs a little more then a little twist

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People would take you seriously if you weren't a lier. Combat system "same as wow with a twist" indeed.

Originally posted by mutantmagnet

 

 

People would take you seriously if you weren't a lier. Combat system "same as wow with a twist" indeed.

Calling ppl liars are the single most non serious thing about this thread. Fair enough that some disagree with me, I can live with that, but its just retarded comming with comments like that.

What I will give ppl is that I'm a little harsh about the combat system, it is different then wow, but almost just as boring, and by no means revolutionary, different though, they deserve credit for that.

I love when people make polls where there is no option just to view the poll.  Then I have to taint the final results with my intuitive guessing lol.

A non-wow-clone!

5 because of that, 3 for the quality and 1 for the beauty.

9!

I will keep the 10 to Darkfall Online.

I really like the combat system. To me it is nothing like WoW. Unless you are a fps veteran it will take much much more than 2 hours of time to get good at combat. Personally I like to select with my mousewheel as well as aim with the mouse and dodge/attack with the keyboard. This has taken some time to learn and I love getting better as the backstabs can hurt as well as you can keep away from being hit. No dice rolls for iht or miss. Timing and distance is everything on melees. Mages are a bit different and I like a challenge.

Quests are not spoon fed to me but after playing and actually searching I figured them out pretty easy. I am glad I was not spoon fed to the NPC/quest goal. Also, the starting area is not really that big so IMO one does not have to look far to figure it out. In Hawksmouth if you pull up the map and scroll over the map it tells you the in town places of interest and you are an arrow on screen. To me it was very easy to find stuff in town. I liked this about the game, I like to explore. I am not so interested in hitting cap in 2 weeks.

The UI needs some polish and so does the game but not very much. Most games only get better only time will tell. I am sure there is much more in store as the devs are very committed to that end.

Plenty of people not happy with the quests content. Not a problem here. I have quested in many an mmo and I am not sure any that I played were more or less different. WoW, VG, AC, LoTRO, GW, HZ. You run an errand, kill a guy for someone else, gather resources, go to a new zone and talk to so and so, etc... How different or immersive can you make that once you have done that in other mmo's? You have the option of not questing too. PeP is great :-)

I seem to see more hate/negative on these boards that hype too. So I do not think it is overhyped but I could be wrong. You will definately need some time to get the hang of combat. Once you get good the game shines. I like feeling powerful ala my AC days

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

yall are way over hyping up this game lol

No I don't really think it is over hyping the game. When you play it and get into the game you see that it is truely a remarkable game. So many different ways to play a single class. You are not limited to specs.