On TV we watch sci-fi shows and on the computer we play fantasy games?

Not many fantasy TV-shows around right? Not many science fiction MMOs around either. The few that have been made have been so bright and cute even the youngest of fools didnt wanna pay for it.

Why cant someone realize there isa big empty hole that needs to be filled. That big empty hole is my wallet. No, seriously, its the lack of a high quality science fiction MMO.

The world in this new game needs to be mature, sexy, dark and unforgiving. A mature game for a maturer audience, not for young teens who love fantasy games with cartoonish little hobbits grinding their eyes out for meaningless gear.

Make the game 18+ even?

I dunno how many people would play this game, maybe only 500k or max 1 mil would play it? Dosnt really matter now does it, since you would be all millionairs anyway if "only" 500k played it.

EVE is a sucess and has how many players? 250k subscribers? 300k? You dont need 11 mil players like WoW to make a huge profit.

Add some survival into the game like we have in Left 4 Dead and maybe some open PvP envirement (to add to the No bs, diehard, brutality) and maybe a player driven market? (think EVE?)

I know Earthrise is on its way, and me and my wife will pay and play it, but me and many other people would be very interested in a dark, mature, science fiction, horror, survival type of game.

Add some military style to it and ill tell my wife to have your babies.

One mans Scifi is another mans fantasy.   Although you wouldn't get any arguements from anyone calling high-fantasy nothing but fantasy.

Warhammer 40k Online thats being made by Vigil Games is very dark and Gothic.

Even tho these are from a different 40k PC game you can get the feel of the 40k Universe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-E1RcRvny8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu4ABhVd28U&feature=related

And yes, Warhammer 40k was out before Starcraft.

Vendetta online is sci-fi. I'm trying it out right now and it's pretty nice.

Although I'm not sure if you mean in-space or in-space station. Those are different types of sci-fi. In Vendetta online you own your spaceship and can go to different places for missions, mining and the like.

I guess SWG would be the in-space station kind of MMO I think you're looking for, which in that case, is the only one out there.

I believe we need more Sci-Fi MMO's. The game markets is filled with enough sword and board, hobit and elf, pre teen fantasy (WOW) type games. I am really looking forward to Earthrise and Fallen Earth. If they do make Warhammer 40k that would be sick!!

I also would like to see more Sci-Fi MMOs. The problem is it is much harder to do a Sci-Fi MMO than a Fantasy MMO. In my view the best Sci-Fi MMOs will have many worlds to explore. They will also have character combat as well as ship combat. The best and one of the first paper and pencil Sci-Fi RPGs I have ever played is Traveller. It has great lore, ship combat, character combat, an excellent ship design system, and an overall gritty feel to it. It’s not perfect but its good enough that it has lasted in some form or another all these years. Again though, it takes a lot of work to set up a traveler game and make it good.

Originally posted by polypterus

I also would like to see more Sci-Fi MMOs. The problem is it is much harder to do a Sci-Fi MMO than a Fantasy MMO. In my view the best Sci-Fi MMOs will have many worlds to explore. They will also have character combat as well as ship combat. The best and one of the first paper and pencil Sci-Fi RPGs I have ever played is Traveller. It has great lore, ship combat, character combat, an excellent ship design system, and an overall gritty feel to it. It’s not perfect but its good enough that it has lasted in some form or another all these years. Again though, it takes a lot of work to set up a traveler game and make it good.

I agree. Fantasy is relatively easy to pull off but the expectation for a sci fi game are bigger. For example, Tabula Rasa wasn't a bad game but the model it was based on was fantasy. I feel that if TR had had more elements that are specific to sci fi it would have done better.

Also, I think this is what sci fi gamers are looking for. Not just a fantasy MMO with lasers, but a true sci fi game.

Yes, more sci-fi but just don't turn it into a shooter. It's so insulting to an idea-focused genre like sci-fi. Give us more than pew-pew; give us exploration, trade, sleuthing and other vocations...

A sci-fi game does not have to be a spacefaring game, by the way. Perfectly good sci-fi worlds can be created on earth, too. Dystopian visions like those in Blade Runner, Soylent Green, Brazil or Escape from New York are OK, too.

Or maybe like in The Quiet Earth!... OK, that was a joke :)

Originally posted by Nikopol

Yes, more sci-fi but just don't turn it into a shooter. It's so insulting to an idea-focused genre like sci-fi. Give us more than pew-pew; give us exploration, trade, sleuthing and other vocations...

A sci-fi game does not have to be a spacefaring game, by the way. Perfectly good sci-fi worlds can be created on earth, too. Dystopian visions like those in Blade Runner, Soylent Green, Brazil or Escape from New York are OK, too.

Or maybe like in The Quiet Earth!... OK, that was a joke :)

 

The whole combat orientation of MMOs is disturbing. If you think about it the only way players interact with each other is by a) attacking one another or b) grouping to attack something else.
 

I feel that a good sci fi MMO could break out of this. EVE has shown that you can include trading, politics and corporations in a game and people will play. I would like an MMO were exploration and random missions were the norm instead of every player talking to the same first 100 NPC accomplishing the same first 1000 "quests" that in the end mean nothing

As for an IP MMO, I would like to a good sci fi game cut from whole cloth. IP based MMOs, IMHO, suffer from fans not being satisfied with the effort and other non-fans not liking the game sticking so close to the story. I feel that SG will suffer from this.

I agree, it amazes me that most media is very science fiction oriented, yet MMORPGs are so fantasy oriented. I personally don't care much for fantasy, but am almost forced to play it if I want to play an MMO. Give us more SCI-FI!

There are like 7 or 8 upcoming Sci-Fi MMOs.

next year should keep you busy.

Originally posted by Capn23

There are like 7 or 8 upcoming Sci-Fi MMOs.

 

next year should keep you busy.

I only see 3 confirmed for next year.

Jumpgate Evoulution

Stargate worlds

Earthrise

What other scifi MMOs can we expect for certain will be launched in '09?

If you would like a Bladerunner style MMO, thats what we are currently making. But... its 4-5 years away of course

Originally posted by Dedthom 

I only see 3 confirmed for next year.

Jumpgate Evoulution

Stargate worlds

Earthrise

What other scifi MMOs can we expect for certain will be launched in '09?

Fallen Earth!!!

http://www.fallenearth.com/index.php

This is going to be a great game.  You should check it out - if you sign up for the forums you could be invited to the alpha test.

Originally posted by ketrine

Originally posted by Dedthom 

I only see 3 confirmed for next year.

Jumpgate Evoulution

Stargate worlds

Earthrise

What other scifi MMOs can we expect for certain will be launched in '09?

 

Fallen Earth!!!

http://www.fallenearth.com/index.php

This is going to be a great game.  You should check it out - if you sign up for the forums you could be invited to the alpha test.

After playing Fallout 1, 2 and working on 3 as well as Stalker Shadow and working on Stalker Clear sky. I am looking forward to Fallen Earth but I don't think it is coming out next year is it?

I suspect that it will come out in late 2009.  They have not released an official date, but I would be surprised if it didn't release by the end of '09.  I suppose they could be an early 2010 release but they were "Content Complete" as of Oct 3 this year.  If I were placing a bet I would guess Q3 of 2009. 

 Well if you guys are interested in Earthrise the beta sign up has been announced. Sign up will begin on 1/5/09.  It is like Fallen Earth but more futuristic technology based. Also is more pvp centric.

http://forums.play-earthrise.com/index.php?topic=2532.0

Fallen Earths graphics looks like some kinda cruel joke...? Reminds me of the Darkfall gameplay video, wich made grown up men cry of embarresment.

Earthrise graphics seems ok though and I will try that game out for sure.

But is that the only good sci-fi game in development that is high quality? (and not a WoW-clone-in-space)

Originally posted by Securion

On TV we watch sci-fi shows and on the computer we play fantasy games?

Not many fantasy TV-shows around right? Not many science fiction MMOs around either. The few that have been made have been so bright and cute even the youngest of fools didnt wanna pay for it.

 

Why cant someone realize there isa big empty hole that needs to be filled. That big empty hole is my wallet. No, seriously, its the lack of a high quality science fiction MMO.

The world in this new game needs to be mature, sexy, dark and unforgiving. A mature game for a maturer audience, not for young teens who love fantasy games with cartoonish little hobbits grinding their eyes out for meaningless gear.

Make the game 18+ even?

I dunno how many people would play this game, maybe only 500k or max 1 mil would play it? Dosnt really matter now does it, since you would be all millionairs anyway if "only" 500k played it.

EVE is a sucess and has how many players? 250k subscribers? 300k? You dont need 11 mil players like WoW to make a huge profit.

 

Add some survival into the game like we have in Left 4 Dead and maybe some open PvP envirement (to add to the No bs, diehard, brutality) and maybe a player driven market? (think EVE?)

 

I know Earthrise is on its way, and me and my wife will pay and play it, but me and many other people would be very interested in a dark, mature, science fiction, horror, survival type of game.

Add some military style to it and ill tell my wife to have your babies.

 

I agree. A dark, mature, +18 Sci-Fi MMORPG would be very nice. And I think people would like it. Too much fantasy on the market. We need some cyperpunk! =D

Originally posted by ketrine

Originally posted by Dedthom 

I only see 3 confirmed for next year.

Jumpgate Evoulution

Stargate worlds

Earthrise

What other scifi MMOs can we expect for certain will be launched in '09?

 

Fallen Earth!!!

http://www.fallenearth.com/index.php

This is going to be a great game.  You should check it out - if you sign up for the forums you could be invited to the alpha test.

Fallen earth look like a game for my old Nintendo 16-Bit. =(

>Add some military style to it and ill tell my wife to have your babies.

We are working on a Blade Runner styled MMO.. Is she pretty?

Yeah I made a thread about this topic as well a bit ago. There's a sad dearth of sci fi mmos. Eve online is really the only option, and there's only ships not real characters too.

Originally posted by Dedthom
 

I agree. Fantasy is relatively easy to pull off but the expectation for a sci fi game are bigger. For example, Tabula Rasa wasn't a bad game but the model it was based on was fantasy. I feel that if TR had had more elements that are specific to sci fi it would have done better.

Also, I think this is what sci fi gamers are looking for. Not just a fantasy MMO with lasers, but a true sci fi game.

True Sci fi game? I have never heard a mere weak term my friend :D

So what can i use for a weapon, Gun? lazor Pistols... lazer Swords ? :D Lasersword wielding Ninjas ?

Well there is Earthrise like you said, Star Wars TOR, SWG, etc, but did you know about Face of Mankind?  It is a kind of Indy project that is futuristic scifi with a player driven world.  Players declare allegiance to one of 8 factions when they start and the factions are set in place, but players are elected leaders.  There are multiple worlds/colonies(New York, Tokyo, Mining Colonies off Planet, etc. etc.) that can be taken over by the factions and there is a very dynamic politic system in place.  Two of the factions can't hold worlds, but they enforce the law.  There is a murder system with cloning, and the chance for perma death if you become a criminal or don't clone.  It kind of reminds me of Total Recall.

Face of Mankind

It released a while ago, but it was too early and things just didn't fall into place so the devs have re-developed many of the systems and they have written a new server system.  It just went into closed beta, and hopefully an open beta will follow shortly after.  Will be Free to Play with optional sub for added features.  In my opinion it has one of the coolest player driven systems in any online game.

I guess Stargate is falling apart, but Star Trek is still going. 

Also check out Jumpgate Evolution.  Twitch based starfighter?  Come on it's going to be fun as hell.

I do wish there was an effort being put towards making an MMO based on Shadowrun or Snowcrash, but the genre is already niche.

Originally posted by Bafucin

Originally posted by ketrine

Originally posted by Dedthom 

I only see 3 confirmed for next year.

Jumpgate Evoulution

Stargate worlds

Earthrise

What other scifi MMOs can we expect for certain will be launched in '09?

 

Fallen Earth!!!

http://www.fallenearth.com/index.php

This is going to be a great game.  You should check it out - if you sign up for the forums you could be invited to the alpha test.

 

Fallen earth look like a game for my old Nintendo 16-Bit. =(

All I'll say is......no it don't.