O wow someone just mentioned Hello Kitty in the DF forum and it wasn't used in a derogatory way.

 Hello Kitty Online is a 5th generation MMO. So DF is already behind the times...

I'm all for Darkfall, but how the hell can you say that it's a next generation because of server cap, when Eve's is higher? You can't dismiss a fact, just because you dislike Eve.

Other than that, I mostly agree with you.

Originally posted by Jessonater

so many nay sayers,

     I love how you are going to feel in your head when this game launches and it is amazing.

     This is the 4th generation of the MMO. UO wishes they could do this. Yes UO had a good concept but really guys? we are light years away from what that game was with this. perhaps some of you need to watch darkfalls recent trailer.

 

 

I laughted so hard a little wee came out.

The OP reminds me so much of all the hypers for Vaguard and AoC and War, he's in love with the idea of the game... but dont assume its going to be as great as you imagine once you get to play, theres probably a very good (well bad) reason theres no open DF beta.

Originally posted by Korhindi
 

Revolutionary eh?  Have you played it?

10,000 players at once?  Hmmm... as mentioned in earlier posts...Eve hits 30,000 and Second Life averages 45,000 to 80,000 concurrent users.

             Let me explain something to you here. A few points down you talk about how oblivion has a combat system already created like the one Darkfall is getting ready to launch with? I suppose that would be amazing except Oblivion you are not swinging away with information about your avatar being concurrently updated with the world around you.

A "true" Sandbox?  Sounds like Second Life has DF beat there, for SL is ALL sanbox (and a good reason why Sanboxes need structure to prevent boredom).

FFA PVP?  Ultima Online did that long ago.

  Did that along time ago in... 2D. Did that along time ago in... 2D.  Anyways moving on.

Clicking on a target and walking up?  In WoW you can just walk up.  In oblivion, you can swing away.

  Proving a point with two statements? Hmmm... Logic error.

Can you fly in a fully 3-D world in DF?  At the very least like you can in CoV/CoH or Perfect World?

  Perhaps you've seen the player made flying vessels in Darkfall http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/4/view/videos/play/1284

Will crafting in DF rival or exceed SWG?

  Yes it is not bound by lore, or bound to a licensing agreement as many other MMO's such as.... SWG. And... Warhammer Online.

Does DF include extremely addicting and fun minigames like Hello Kitty Online?  Will DF give players more to do then Kill,kill, craft, kill?

 While as exciting as Hello Kitty is when it comes to titles in the MMO world I can assure you darkfall 

Next Gen graphics?  I seriously hope that you are seeing screenshots different from those on the DF site, or from the "noob" comic reports.  Those are on par to Morrowind.

 Even the races featured in the game are the normal fare.  What is so special about Dark Fall's world... is it going to blow away Tolkien, Tad Williams or Robert Jordan?

In the time of darkfall history and lore is written by the players themselves. The story of who they are and where they came from develops around them. Surely the rise and fall of a new power in a region will affect the player base. FOR TEH REVOLUTON.

The fact is, DF is nothing not at all next gen, or even revolutionary.  It doesn't have to be.  The OP does not need to hype it up. 

  EPIC FAIL! 

You wanna sell me on DF?  It only has to meet one goal:  Is it fun?

Is it?

Originally posted by Claes

I'm all for Darkfall, but how the hell can you say that it's a next generation because of server cap, when Eve's is higher? You can't dismiss a fact, just because you dislike Eve.

 

Other than that, I mostly agree with you.

Sorry you miss interpreted what RED meant. This was just a glaring fact I liked.

Originally posted by EvilGargamel

Darkfall is nothing more than a Shadowbane clone with mounts.

Shadowbane was.... an epic failure.

Originally posted by EvilGargamel

Originally posted by Claes

I'm all for Darkfall, but how the hell can you say that it's a next generation because of server cap, when Eve's is higher?

 How can you call anything Next Gen when it's still firmly in the vaporware category less than 2 months from a launch?

How can you call anything vaporware, with all the videos/screenshots released? That's just ignorant.

Originally posted by EvilGargamel

And so is Darkfall. What's your point? Darkfall looks like nothing more than some kind of fucked up College experiment less than 2 months from a commercial launch,. It looks like complete shit. The gameplay looks terribly generic consisiting of nothing more than [B]mindless hack and slash combat[/B], the graphics look old, the animations look terrible.

Riiiiiight, because autotargeting a mob and hammering the same button on the keyboard is _NOT_ mindless. Real time is way better.

[quote][i]Originally posted by Jessonater[/i]
[quote][i]Originally posted by Claes[/i]

I'm all for Darkfall, but how the hell can you say that it's a next generation because of server cap, when Eve's is higher? You can't dismiss a fact, just because you dislike Eve.

Other than that, I mostly agree with you.
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Sorry you miss interpreted what RED meant. This was just a glaring fact I liked.
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It's not the red part I'm referring to. It's the "Who cares" part.

EDIT: GOD I fail at quoting.

Originally posted by Jessonater

Lets go over why I believe Dark Fall truely is our next generation of MMO entertainment.

 

New idea..... well kind of. Here we see the resurrection of lost ideas we left behind in UO. A few them being. Darkfall is a true sandbox. A world where the lore and stories revolve around the players themselves ( rather than some Lich King deciding to invade... I have to tell you I have never been scared of an NPC bringing his destruction to the world).

The Engine. We have been clicking on a target walking up to it and pressing one or two keys for how long now? This truely real time combat system will change the way we think about combat in the realm of MMO titles. While we're talking about the engine lets not forget servers are not holding 1-2 thousand people at once. Darkfall caps out at 10,000 players. Yes I understand eve has 30k+ logged in at certain times. Who cares, its EVE.

Lets look at what it takes to be the next gen and why I am using that term. The next gen titles break the mold in away that revolutionises how we see similar titles. It also inovative enough to send the entire industry in a new direction. No I don't mean allowing mounts to all of a sudden appear that they are a submarine flying in the air( moving a character up and down on the Z coordinate system does not constitute flying ) . Lastly, the title must be a huge success. What defines a huge success? That is for you to decide.

Stay tuned sports fans, we're on the verge of a new generation.

x_-

Yours truely.
 

Nope .. they are only 2nd generation at best.  3d combat with UOs sandbox..  You won't see 4th generation until you have someone do the Graphics of Age of Conan with the sandbox and open world of UO.

And this title? Will be lucky to live long enough for a worldwide release.. in all honesty.. if it was THAT good it'd be ready for release worldwide .. not just Europe

Originally posted by Lughsan

Originally posted by Jessonater

Lets go over why I believe Dark Fall truely is our next generation of MMO entertainment.

 

New idea..... well kind of. Here we see the resurrection of lost ideas we left behind in UO. A few them being. Darkfall is a true sandbox. A world where the lore and stories revolve around the players themselves ( rather than some Lich King deciding to invade... I have to tell you I have never been scared of an NPC bringing his destruction to the world).

The Engine. We have been clicking on a target walking up to it and pressing one or two keys for how long now? This truely real time combat system will change the way we think about combat in the realm of MMO titles. While we're talking about the engine lets not forget servers are not holding 1-2 thousand people at once. Darkfall caps out at 10,000 players. Yes I understand eve has 30k+ logged in at certain times. Who cares, its EVE.

Lets look at what it takes to be the next gen and why I am using that term. The next gen titles break the mold in away that revolutionises how we see similar titles. It also inovative enough to send the entire industry in a new direction. No I don't mean allowing mounts to all of a sudden appear that they are a submarine flying in the air( moving a character up and down on the Z coordinate system does not constitute flying ) . Lastly, the title must be a huge success. What defines a huge success? That is for you to decide.

Stay tuned sports fans, we're on the verge of a new generation.

x_-

Yours truely.
 

 

Nope .. they are only 2nd generation at best.  3d combat with UOs sandbox..  You won't see 4th generation until you have someone do the Graphics of Age of Conan with the sandbox and open world of UO.

 

And this title? Will be lucky to live long enough for a worldwide release.. in all honesty.. if it was THAT good it'd be ready for release worldwide .. not just Europe

American players can join the european launch.

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by SignusM

Name me one MMO that has all of that and I'll go play it, you're a moron. I've been playing MMOs for 10 years and NONE have that. 

 

 

No one MMO has all of  that. Darkfall doesn't either. Other games have had some of  those things. None of those things is new or exclisive to Darkfall. . Darkfall does not have weather  physics.  It may have some  algorithms to simulate some of the effects of weather but that's it. You might want to learn to read before calling other people morons.  Oh and I've been playing multiplayer online games for 25 years so you can put your  pathetic boast boast away.

There are spells to control the weather, a WEATHER MAP button, and ways to predict the weather. Considering rain will hamper visibility, it is very important from a PvP aspect, and they've thought of this. Read a bit before you sound like a tool. There are indeed weather physics. 

 

And yes, Darkfall does have all the things I listed, and each any every one you can see in the gameplay video. 

None of that is weather physics. Are there floods? Do trees get knocked down? Random lightning strikes? Tornados? Low pressure areas? Do lakes freeze? You know physics? Do you know what physics are? We're not talking about fog effects and raindrops here.

Originally posted by Claes

Originally posted by Lughsan

Originally posted by Jessonater

Lets go over why I believe Dark Fall truely is our next generation of MMO entertainment.

 

New idea..... well kind of. Here we see the resurrection of lost ideas we left behind in UO. A few them being. Darkfall is a true sandbox. A world where the lore and stories revolve around the players themselves ( rather than some Lich King deciding to invade... I have to tell you I have never been scared of an NPC bringing his destruction to the world).

The Engine. We have been clicking on a target walking up to it and pressing one or two keys for how long now? This truely real time combat system will change the way we think about combat in the realm of MMO titles. While we're talking about the engine lets not forget servers are not holding 1-2 thousand people at once. Darkfall caps out at 10,000 players. Yes I understand eve has 30k+ logged in at certain times. Who cares, its EVE.

Lets look at what it takes to be the next gen and why I am using that term. The next gen titles break the mold in away that revolutionises how we see similar titles. It also inovative enough to send the entire industry in a new direction. No I don't mean allowing mounts to all of a sudden appear that they are a submarine flying in the air( moving a character up and down on the Z coordinate system does not constitute flying ) . Lastly, the title must be a huge success. What defines a huge success? That is for you to decide.

Stay tuned sports fans, we're on the verge of a new generation.

x_-

Yours truely.
 

 

Nope .. they are only 2nd generation at best.  3d combat with UOs sandbox..  You won't see 4th generation until you have someone do the Graphics of Age of Conan with the sandbox and open world of UO.

 

And this title? Will be lucky to live long enough for a worldwide release.. in all honesty.. if it was THAT good it'd be ready for release worldwide .. not just Europe

 

American players can join the european launch.

Why yes they can.. and the client is ONLY available via digital download.. call me skeptical but its sounding scamerific.. I'll sit back and watch it burn without sampling thanks...

Originally posted by Lughsan 

Why yes they can.. and the client is ONLY available via digital download.. call me skeptical but its sounding scamerific.. I'll sit back and watch it burn without sampling thanks...

 Yes well that is a choice you alone have to make.

The game plays like a good READ so far because that is all there is so far.

Yep, Yep.  Fourth Generation for sure.

Right up there with Mourning and Dark and Light.

:: thumbs up ::

Nothing like small unheard of development teams making such amazing "fourth generation" mmos.

I'm sure Blizzard is scared to freaking death of the mighty Darkfall launching and taking all 11 million of their players in about two weeks time.  ...Scared to freaking death, man.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by SignusM

Name me one MMO that has all of that and I'll go play it, you're a moron. I've been playing MMOs for 10 years and NONE have that. 

 

 

No one MMO has all of  that. Darkfall doesn't either. Other games have had some of  those things. None of those things is new or exclisive to Darkfall. . Darkfall does not have weather  physics.  It may have some  algorithms to simulate some of the effects of weather but that's it. You might want to learn to read before calling other people morons.  Oh and I've been playing multiplayer online games for 25 years so you can put your  pathetic boast boast away.

There are spells to control the weather, a WEATHER MAP button, and ways to predict the weather. Considering rain will hamper visibility, it is very important from a PvP aspect, and they've thought of this. Read a bit before you sound like a tool. There are indeed weather physics. 

 

And yes, Darkfall does have all the things I listed, and each any every one you can see in the gameplay video. 

 

None of that is weather physics. Are there floods? Do trees get knocked down? Random lightning strikes? Tornados? Low pressure areas? Do lakes freeze? You know physics? Do you know what physics are? We're not talking about fog effects and raindrops here.

I am amazed by people's hopes for this game, hopes are so high its beyond realistic and that I think its the downfall. This is mainly because of such lack of information and concrete evidence that makes so much room for people to grab onto litle bits of info like "you can change weather" and create massive expectations and scenarios which are unrealistic.

I have quoted zymurgeist because i think he is right in his point some people will think those kind of things will happen in game.

Back on topic, in my opinion Next Gen is usually dictated by the release of new technology and what do i mean by new technology, this can be a new revolutionary AI system to new virtual reality gloves that simulate your movements with alot of accuracy, then companies pick up one of these new technologies and add it to their game this obviously adding a new piece of technology creates a chain reaction that increases gameplay quality, immersion amongst other things, this new game that has this technology can then be called Next Generation, obviously this is not set in stone it will only mark the next gen when the product is released and the model actually works.

Originally posted by Jessonater

so many nay sayers,

     I love how you are going to feel in your head when this game launches and it is amazing.

     This is the 4th generation of the MMO. UO wishes they could do this. Yes UO had a good concept but really guys? we are light years away from what that game was with this. perhaps some of you need to watch darkfalls recent trailer.

 

 

weird that this game is being compared to UO's 3d client (or is it only being compared to the 2d client?)

quite honestly, if it weren't for the crappy movement in uo, i think i could put up with it's 2d style, just because of all the things you can do even today in the carebear-UO-world.

where are you getting your information on what DF will/won't have at release, since the DF people seem to be unwilling to officially update what they are releasing with?  i've heard pets and prestige classes have been cut... what else (which supposedly makes df unique) have already been cut?

bleh.

DF has what it takes to be worthy of the 'next-gen MMO' title, which is of course why many doubt it, and why it attracts so many trolls.

i can still remember all the claims of half-life being vapourware/crap in the years and months before its release, same goes for TF2.

DF is obviously real, anyone can see that. as for whether it can live up to its 'next-gen' potential, we'll all find out over the next 6 months (launch will just be the beginning, how the game develops after launch is the true measure).

Originally posted by EvilGargamel

This game is about as next gen as my Grandmother is.

-The graphics are from 2002'ish

- The intended gameplay is from 1999'ish taken from games like Asheron's Call and UO.

This game is still 100% vaporware at this point in time and you have clowns calling it next gen. LOL

The stupidity in the world never stops amazing me. I bow.

Bahahaha, I don't think you know what vaporware is. It seems after the great August fallout, some vapor trolls managed to survive. We got a live one here boys!