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The folks at Age of Conan have posted new details about a pen and paper RPG game based on to Conan IP and using the D20 system.
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Why didn't they use this system for the ingame system? ---------- "No, your wrong.." - Random user #123 "Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features. How are you?" -Me |
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Batak_Killer
Advanced Member
Joined: 2/02/07
Something, something, something.... Dark Side! |
Man im sick and tired of d20 system. There are so much better systems out there. Oh my god its Jason Bourne... |
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Who cares about pen and paper RPGs anyway? All D&D and other pen and paper RPGs suck any. When we get back from where we are going, we will return to where we were. I know people there! |
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Dedthom
Hard Core Member
Joined: 5/21/04
I find the narrowness of your opinion refreshing. |
Originally posted by purewitz So true since every MMO is golden, allows real character development and interaction on a grand scale. Nothing but grinding and gear whoring in paper and pencil RPGs. Paper and pencil RPGs are so linear and scripted. It would be nice if they had real time input and reaction like MMO provide, and allowed players to change the worlds and add to stories. Die unheilgeschwängerte Nacht zum 19. November 1942 ist hereingebrochen. |
Originally posted by Dedthom So true since every MMO is golden, allows real character development and interaction on a grand scale. Nothing but grinding and gear whoring in paper and pencil RPGs. Paper and pencil RPGs are so linear and scripted. It would be nice if they had real time input and reaction like MMO provide, and allowed players to change the worlds and add to stories.
I know, right! I mean, who actually wants to have to think for themselves. That's so 80s. It's much better to have the story pre-planned out and be told exactly who I need to talk to next. Having choice to make your own story is lame. Being a connect the dot hero is teh way!!1!!! Asheron's Call. The one open world, classless progression, live team content oriented game that ALL game sites and developers show little respect for as a template to pattern future MMOs after.
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Let me guess, no DX10 in this game either? |
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TookyG
Warhammer Online Correspondent
Joined: 4/19/04
"...you mean three philippino women." |
Reading over the preview pdf makes me a little nostalgic over 3rd edition D&D...4e is great too though. Perhaps it would have been a better Conan RPG had Mongoose used the GSL rather than the OGL but then they'd have to change all their lines over to GSL... |
Originally posted by purewitz
Heh that is like saying books sucks because we have movies now. |
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Koolaider
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Joined: 1/06/07
"FIGHT THE MAN...Harness the power of Breakfast Cereals" |
Originally posted by drarkanex |
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DeaconX
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Joined: 2/08/05
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Originally posted by Batak_Killer
Like which systems? I sincerely want to know :\ ![]() Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.
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Batak_Killer
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Joined: 2/02/07
Something, something, something.... Dark Side! |
Originally posted by DeaconX
Like which systems? I sincerely want to know :\
Well for starters WFRP (Warhammer FRP) and/or WH40k RPG, although i prefer WFRP. Than of course who can forget White Wolf rpg books, such as Vampire, Hunter, Scion, Changeling....those are all very imaginative and well written rpg systems, with great lore, character creation etc.. dnd d20 system is just plain boring after these books. Oh my god its Jason Bourne... |
Originally posted by Batak_Killer
Well for starters WFRP (Warhammer FRP) and/or WH40k RPG, although i prefer WFRP. Than of course who can forget White Wolf rpg books, such as Vampire, Hunter, Scion, Changeling....those are all very imaginative and well written rpg systems, with great lore, character creation etc.. dnd d20 system is just plain boring after these books.
Well, that is only your opinion and not a basis for a "better" RPG than D20. Plus, you forgot the next two largest RPGs next to D&D -- Rifts and Steve Jackson Games. |
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Batak_Killer
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Originally posted by Gigget
Well for starters WFRP (Warhammer FRP) and/or WH40k RPG, although i prefer WFRP. Than of course who can forget White Wolf rpg books, such as Vampire, Hunter, Scion, Changeling....those are all very imaginative and well written rpg systems, with great lore, character creation etc.. dnd d20 system is just plain boring after these books.
Well, that is only your opinion and not a basis for a "better" RPG than D20. Plus, you forgot the next two largest RPGs next to D&D -- Rifts and Steve Jackson Games.
Ive been playing rpgs for a long time now. Of course i started with dnd but when i found out bout those other, newer systems i realised just how inferior dnd d20 is to them. Of course this is just a personal, subjective opinion... I havent heard of Rifts or Steve Jackson Games... oh yeah another great and imaginative rpg systems are Trial of Cthulhu, Hollow Earth, Spirit of the Century, Burning Wheel and another from White Wolf, Promethean... im not saying i played them all just read them and have them. Im typing this for all you who want to try something else than d20 and dnd.. Oh my god its Jason Bourne... |
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Dedthom
Hard Core Member
Joined: 5/21/04
I find the narrowness of your opinion refreshing. |
Originally posted by DeaconX
Like which systems? I sincerely want to know :\
My favorite system is Chaosiums Basic Role Playing. This system is used in Call of Cthulhuand they recently released a big book with their percentile system fully explored. Funny because Mongoose has the rights to the old Runequest stuff and I wonder why they have converted Conan over to the percentile system. Die unheilgeschwängerte Nacht zum 19. November 1942 ist hereingebrochen. |
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Mongoose has had a Conan d20 game out for some time now, bought it for a friend a couple years ago. This looks like just a push to capitalize on the AoC media hype for their newest release of their old product. The d20 system has advantages and disadvantages, but I won't go into details here. Like any other gaming rule set though it isn't the rules that determine the fun of the game but what the players do with them.
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Originally posted by afoaa
Heh that is like saying books sucks because we have movies now. Amen! Can't believe so many peeps think they're so ewber 1337 'cuz they play rad MMOs and have mad skillz! Nothing like gathering with a group of friends, rolling some die and having fun (and fighting the DM of course). There is NO MMO currently out there that is in any way superior in terms of lore, creativity and role playing than d20 (specially DnD) based games. Peace. |
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TookyG
Warhammer Online Correspondent
Joined: 4/19/04
"...you mean three philippino women." |
Originally posted by Batak_Killer
Wouldn't you say though, that given the IP the game is based on, the d20 system seems like a good fit? I think it's perfect for it. I love the Storyteller (oWoD) and Storytelling (nWoD) systems, the SotC, SJ Games, Chaosium, and countless other systems. They're all great systems. However, some systems just lend themselves to certain IPs better than others. In my opinion, d20 is great for Conan. I'd say that a runner up would be White Wolf's Storytelling system. I'm sure everyone would agree that, more important than the system, is the GM. I wouldn't mind playing only one system for the rest of my life if all of my GMs were great. |
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Either the Savage Worlds system (which Howard's other creation 'Solomon Kane' is using, btw), or GURPS (that's the Steve Jackson Games system), or possibly RIFTS which I'm not that familiar with in detail, but have heard breakdowns of. Any of those would be much more appropriate than D20. D20 is just what people know, and the system alot of people want to build for as it will likely sell more. It's far from the 'best' system, in my opinion, however. Savage Worlds is practically designed to handle the non-level based type of adventure, sword-and-sorcery that Conan entails.....*but* the system costs little and requires some imagination from a GM, both of which are deterrents. |
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Batak_Killer
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Joined: 2/02/07
Something, something, something.... Dark Side! |
Originally posted by TookyG
Wouldn't you say though, that given the IP the game is based on, the d20 system seems like a good fit? I think it's perfect for it. I love the Storyteller (oWoD) and Storytelling (nWoD) systems, the SotC, SJ Games, Chaosium, and countless other systems. They're all great systems. However, some systems just lend themselves to certain IPs better than others. In my opinion, d20 is great for Conan. I'd say that a runner up would be White Wolf's Storytelling system. I'm sure everyone would agree that, more important than the system, is the GM. I wouldn't mind playing only one system for the rest of my life if all of my GMs were great.
Yeah youre probably right about d20 being the right system for AoC rpg, i was just saying that im bored of d20 and that there are countless other rpg systems that are in my opinion better Oh my god its Jason Bourne... |