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Arcken

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Lets face it, MMOs today are turning into single player console games with a chat box included.

12/11/08 11:10:06 AM#26
Originally posted by Blodpls

It's funny how all these failgamers from the war and aoc boards suddenly know so much about how to make a good game.  They must have had some kind relevation, shame they didn't have a few months earlier.


 

its funny how a bunch of fail gamers got together and said theyre going to make the greatest MMO of all time with no game development experience. Go Aventurine!

Arcken

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Posts: 2210

Lets face it, MMOs today are turning into single player console games with a chat box included.

12/11/08 11:11:00 AM#27
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by Somniferous
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by ethion

Well I'm pretty skeptical about this game.  It promisses a lot and is gonna try to be a Quake MMO for hard core PvP.  Based on recent releases of games that have disappointed I'm seeing a common tactic in games.

No open beta and no NDA dropping till the day the game is released or an Open beta that is very controlled and limited.

So from the people in the know, when does the NDA drop and When is open beta?  I did some searching on the net and couldn't find a lot of beta leaked info which makes me concerned that the game is running a pretty small closed beta.  Another area for concern.


 

No one knows....

 

That was really the end of the thread.

Do you know when the NDA will drop? No you do not.

Do you know when the open beta will start, if there is an open beta? No you do not.

the end.

 

Yes we know

at the latest

2009 - 01- 22


 

I wouldnt put too much stock into that date Darth. Didnt you learn already from the promised 08 release? By now you should know better.

Adam1902

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Joined: 11/02/04
Posts: 294

12/11/08 11:11:34 AM#28
Originally posted by ethion

Well I'm pretty skeptical about this game.  It promisses a lot and is gonna try to be a Quake MMO for hard core PvP.

Sorry, I stopped reading there.

_________
Playing Darkfall.

GrayGhost79

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Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 1343

12/11/08 11:13:15 AM#29
Originally posted by Mythosaeon

Darkfall's friends and family Alpha testing plods on past the early December mark where the open beta testing was supposed to end.  Their pushback of the release date to January 2009 and change to a limited europe-only release with no information at all forthcoming about actually having an open beta or information regarding distribution is just more anti-hype making gamers even more wary of this shady development.

 

Wasn't changed to a Euro only release, this has always been a possibility.They were wanting a NA and Euro launch to happen at the same time but they informed us that this may not happen. Those that actually read up on the game know this. 

DarkFall's Closed Beta testing (Yes there are players in lol don't have an exact number all we know is they are in the hunbdreds) plods on past the early December mark.................Those that actually read up on the game know this.

 

Distribution as said by Aventurine will be in the form of Box sales and Digital download. Those that have actually read up on the game know this.

 

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12/11/08 11:13:56 AM#30
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by Somniferous
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by ethion

Well I'm pretty skeptical about this game.  It promisses a lot and is gonna try to be a Quake MMO for hard core PvP.  Based on recent releases of games that have disappointed I'm seeing a common tactic in games.

No open beta and no NDA dropping till the day the game is released or an Open beta that is very controlled and limited.

So from the people in the know, when does the NDA drop and When is open beta?  I did some searching on the net and couldn't find a lot of beta leaked info which makes me concerned that the game is running a pretty small closed beta.  Another area for concern.


 

No one knows....

 

That was really the end of the thread.

Do you know when the NDA will drop? No you do not.

Do you know when the open beta will start, if there is an open beta? No you do not.

the end.

 

Yes we know

at the latest

2009 - 01- 22


 

I wouldnt put too much stock into that date Darth. Didnt you learn already from the promised 08 release? By now you should know better.

yes

promised 08 , and?

remenber

 

AOC most 1 year

warhammer ost 1 year

 

darkfall 1 moth

 

problem?

Arcken

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Joined: 8/14/04
Posts: 2210

Lets face it, MMOs today are turning into single player console games with a chat box included.

12/11/08 11:15:40 AM#31
Originally posted by claudiofm
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by Somniferous
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by ethion

Well I'm pretty skeptical about this game.  It promisses a lot and is gonna try to be a Quake MMO for hard core PvP.  Based on recent releases of games that have disappointed I'm seeing a common tactic in games.

No open beta and no NDA dropping till the day the game is released or an Open beta that is very controlled and limited.

So from the people in the know, when does the NDA drop and When is open beta?  I did some searching on the net and couldn't find a lot of beta leaked info which makes me concerned that the game is running a pretty small closed beta.  Another area for concern.


 

No one knows....

 

That was really the end of the thread.

Do you know when the NDA will drop? No you do not.

Do you know when the open beta will start, if there is an open beta? No you do not.

the end.

 

Yes we know

at the latest

2009 - 01- 22


 

I wouldnt put too much stock into that date Darth. Didnt you learn already from the promised 08 release? By now you should know better.

yes

promised 08 , and?

remenber

 

AOC most 1 year

warhammer ost 1 year

 

darkfall 1 moth

 

problem?


 

Yeah right remember clan beta of 05'? Stop making excuses for them. Ever hear of accountability?

Random_mage

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Joined: 8/15/08
Posts: 1091

12/11/08 11:16:35 AM#32
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by ethion

Well I'm pretty skeptical about this game.  It promisses a lot and is gonna try to be a Quake MMO for hard core PvP.  Based on recent releases of games that have disappointed I'm seeing a common tactic in games.

No open beta and no NDA dropping till the day the game is released or an Open beta that is very controlled and limited.

So from the people in the know, when does the NDA drop and When is open beta?  I did some searching on the net and couldn't find a lot of beta leaked info which makes me concerned that the game is running a pretty small closed beta.  Another area for concern.

 

A trial period before launch is promised for the persons who  wanna try out.


 

No.  No trial is promised.  the HOPE to let you try it out before you buy.  Good try though..

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Focker

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Posts: 364

12/11/08 11:17:29 AM#33
Originally posted by Blodpls

It's funny how all these failgamers from the war and aoc boards suddenly know so much about how to make a good game.  They must have had some kind relevation, shame they didn't have it a few months earlier.


 

GrayGhost79

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Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 1343

12/11/08 11:17:55 AM#34
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by claudiofm
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by Somniferous
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by ethion

Well I'm pretty skeptical about this game.  It promisses a lot and is gonna try to be a Quake MMO for hard core PvP.  Based on recent releases of games that have disappointed I'm seeing a common tactic in games.

No open beta and no NDA dropping till the day the game is released or an Open beta that is very controlled and limited.

So from the people in the know, when does the NDA drop and When is open beta?  I did some searching on the net and couldn't find a lot of beta leaked info which makes me concerned that the game is running a pretty small closed beta.  Another area for concern.


 

No one knows....

 

That was really the end of the thread.

Do you know when the NDA will drop? No you do not.

Do you know when the open beta will start, if there is an open beta? No you do not.

the end.

 

Yes we know

at the latest

2009 - 01- 22


 

I wouldnt put too much stock into that date Darth. Didnt you learn already from the promised 08 release? By now you should know better.

yes

promised 08 , and?

remenber

 

AOC most 1 year

warhammer ost 1 year

 

darkfall 1 moth

 

problem?


 

Yeah right remember clan beta of 05'? Stop making excuses for them. Ever hear of accountability?

 

Who are they being held accountable by? Those that wasted all that money on pre-orders? Those that paid to ge into beta? Ahhh you must mean those that paid for CE's?

What? No one has paid yet?

And in case you decide to say they can be held accountable by there investors............... how about you let them deal with it then lol.

Arcken

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Joined: 8/14/04
Posts: 2210

Lets face it, MMOs today are turning into single player console games with a chat box included.

12/11/08 11:20:58 AM#35
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by claudiofm
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by Somniferous
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by ethion

Well I'm pretty skeptical about this game.  It promisses a lot and is gonna try to be a Quake MMO for hard core PvP.  Based on recent releases of games that have disappointed I'm seeing a common tactic in games.

No open beta and no NDA dropping till the day the game is released or an Open beta that is very controlled and limited.

So from the people in the know, when does the NDA drop and When is open beta?  I did some searching on the net and couldn't find a lot of beta leaked info which makes me concerned that the game is running a pretty small closed beta.  Another area for concern.


 

No one knows....

 

That was really the end of the thread.

Do you know when the NDA will drop? No you do not.

Do you know when the open beta will start, if there is an open beta? No you do not.

the end.

 

Yes we know

at the latest

2009 - 01- 22


 

I wouldnt put too much stock into that date Darth. Didnt you learn already from the promised 08 release? By now you should know better.

yes

promised 08 , and?

remenber

 

AOC most 1 year

warhammer ost 1 year

 

darkfall 1 moth

 

problem?


 

Yeah right remember clan beta of 05'? Stop making excuses for them. Ever hear of accountability?

 

Who are they being held accountable by? Those that wasted all that money on pre-orders? Those that paid to ge into beta? Ahhh you must mean those that paid for CE's?

What? No one has paid yet?

And in case you decide to say they can be held accountable by there investors............... how about you let them deal with it then lol.


 

When you want to sell something to people, you have to be accountable to them. Duh.

Dickin around the way they have, in conjuction with all the double talk and infered releases and betas. All I have to say is:

"Wheres the $&%(#*$ beef?"

Blodpls

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Joined: 7/29/08
Posts: 1466

12/11/08 11:23:20 AM#36
Originally posted by Arcken 

When you want to sell something to people, you have to be accountable to them. Duh.

Dickin around the way they have, in conjuction with all the double talk and infered releases and betas. All I have to say is:

"Wheres the $&%(#*$ beef?"

 

I think you got that a bit wrong, you mean when you sell something to someone you are accountable to them.

Focker

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Posts: 364

12/11/08 11:24:10 AM#37

I hope they delay it another year,  Just cause they can! 

GrayGhost79

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Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 1343

12/11/08 11:25:41 AM#38
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by claudiofm
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by Somniferous
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by ethion

Well I'm pretty skeptical about this game.  It promisses a lot and is gonna try to be a Quake MMO for hard core PvP.  Based on recent releases of games that have disappointed I'm seeing a common tactic in games.

No open beta and no NDA dropping till the day the game is released or an Open beta that is very controlled and limited.

So from the people in the know, when does the NDA drop and When is open beta?  I did some searching on the net and couldn't find a lot of beta leaked info which makes me concerned that the game is running a pretty small closed beta.  Another area for concern.


 

No one knows....

 

That was really the end of the thread.

Do you know when the NDA will drop? No you do not.

Do you know when the open beta will start, if there is an open beta? No you do not.

the end.

 

Yes we know

at the latest

2009 - 01- 22


 

I wouldnt put too much stock into that date Darth. Didnt you learn already from the promised 08 release? By now you should know better.

yes

promised 08 , and?

remenber

 

AOC most 1 year

warhammer ost 1 year

 

darkfall 1 moth

 

problem?


 

Yeah right remember clan beta of 05'? Stop making excuses for them. Ever hear of accountability?

 

Who are they being held accountable by? Those that wasted all that money on pre-orders? Those that paid to ge into beta? Ahhh you must mean those that paid for CE's?

What? No one has paid yet?

And in case you decide to say they can be held accountable by there investors............... how about you let them deal with it then lol.


 

When you want to sell something to people, you have to be accountable to them. Duh.

Dickin around the way they have, in conjuction with all the double talk and infered releases and betas. All I have to say is:

"Wheres the $&%(#*$ beef?"

 

Well, lets hope they follow through with what they wanted to do and show us the beef before we buy it.

Until they fail on that then I really can't see much of any of your points being valid arguements for the simple fact there's always that free trial hanging above your head.

"If" people get to try before they buy do you really think anyone is going to take your speculations seriously?

I know call me on the "If" and that they Hope to give everyone a free trial.

I know the free trial isn't a promise, however if they are smart they will follow through with it. Me and many others won't be buying it at launch without it.

Your not that has been burned by MMO releases. Just seem to be one of the few so jaded you can only see fail now instead of potential.

singsofdeath

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Posts: 1827

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12/11/08 11:26:00 AM#39
Originally posted by Focker

I hope they delay it another year,  Just cause they can! 

 

Me, too! I'm really going to miss the DF Forums once the game is released. It is just too much fun reading all this....all these well thought out posts.

GrayGhost79

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Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 1343

12/11/08 11:28:00 AM#40
Originally posted by singsofdeath
Originally posted by Focker

I hope they delay it another year,  Just cause they can! 

 

Me, too! I'm really going to miss the DF Forums once the game is released. It is just too much fun reading all this....all these well thought out posts.

 

lol I agree with you there lol. When this starts to become a normal forum it's gonna be a sad day. Have had a lot of fun.

Mythosaeon

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Joined: 5/19/04
Posts: 62

12/11/08 11:28:30 AM#41
Originally posted by claudiofm
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by Somniferous
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by ethion

Well I'm pretty skeptical about this game.  It promisses a lot and is gonna try to be a Quake MMO for hard core PvP.  Based on recent releases of games that have disappointed I'm seeing a common tactic in games.

No open beta and no NDA dropping till the day the game is released or an Open beta that is very controlled and limited.

So from the people in the know, when does the NDA drop and When is open beta?  I did some searching on the net and couldn't find a lot of beta leaked info which makes me concerned that the game is running a pretty small closed beta.  Another area for concern.


 

No one knows....

 

That was really the end of the thread.

Do you know when the NDA will drop? No you do not.

Do you know when the open beta will start, if there is an open beta? No you do not.

the end.

 

Yes we know

at the latest

2009 - 01- 22


 

I wouldnt put too much stock into that date Darth. Didnt you learn already from the promised 08 release? By now you should know better.

yes

promised 08 , and?

remenber

 

AOC most 1 year

warhammer ost 1 year

 

darkfall 1 moth

 

problem?


 

1 month?  That just beyond stupid.  Darkfall has been failing to meet announced development dates for years.  This latest date is nothing more than a dart thown at a barn after the most recent failure.  There's not a shred of evidence that anything will happen on January 23rd.

AoC and WAR both pushed back and delayed due to tester feedback during large public betas.  Darkfall has yet to do anything but Alpha testing.  Hundreds of testers involved amounts to only about 50 players online at any given time.

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claudiofm

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Posts: 84

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12/11/08 11:50:52 AM#42
Originally posted by Mythosaeon
Originally posted by claudiofm
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by Somniferous
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by ethion

Well I'm pretty skeptical about this game.  It promisses a lot and is gonna try to be a Quake MMO for hard core PvP.  Based on recent releases of games that have disappointed I'm seeing a common tactic in games.

No open beta and no NDA dropping till the day the game is released or an Open beta that is very controlled and limited.

So from the people in the know, when does the NDA drop and When is open beta?  I did some searching on the net and couldn't find a lot of beta leaked info which makes me concerned that the game is running a pretty small closed beta.  Another area for concern.


 

No one knows....

 

That was really the end of the thread.

Do you know when the NDA will drop? No you do not.

Do you know when the open beta will start, if there is an open beta? No you do not.

the end.

 

Yes we know

at the latest

2009 - 01- 22


 

I wouldnt put too much stock into that date Darth. Didnt you learn already from the promised 08 release? By now you should know better.

yes

promised 08 , and?

remenber

 

AOC most 1 year

warhammer ost 1 year

 

darkfall 1 moth

 

problem?


 

1 month?  That just beyond stupid.  Darkfall has been failing to meet announced development dates for years.  This latest date is nothing more than a dart thown at a barn after the most recent failure.  There's not a shred of evidence that anything will happen on January 23rd.

AoC and WAR both pushed back and delayed due to tester feedback during large public betas.  Darkfall has yet to do anything but Alpha testing.  Hundreds of testers involved amounts to only about 50 players online at any given time.

no 1 month

 

31 december or 22 january is 22 days

 

release darkfall december 2008

 

release official 22 january

 

22 days

 

AOC and warhammer - more than a year late, the you release date, pls most idea

Arcken

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Joined: 8/14/04
Posts: 2210

Lets face it, MMOs today are turning into single player console games with a chat box included.

12/11/08 11:54:23 AM#43
Originally posted by claudiofm
Originally posted by Mythosaeon
Originally posted by claudiofm
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by Somniferous
Originally posted by Arcken
Originally posted by ethion

Well I'm pretty skeptical about this game.  It promisses a lot and is gonna try to be a Quake MMO for hard core PvP.  Based on recent releases of games that have disappointed I'm seeing a common tactic in games.

No open beta and no NDA dropping till the day the game is released or an Open beta that is very controlled and limited.

So from the people in the know, when does the NDA drop and When is open beta?  I did some searching on the net and couldn't find a lot of beta leaked info which makes me concerned that the game is running a pretty small closed beta.  Another area for concern.


 

No one knows....

 

That was really the end of the thread.

Do you know when the NDA will drop? No you do not.

Do you know when the open beta will start, if there is an open beta? No you do not.

the end.

 

Yes we know

at the latest

2009 - 01- 22


 

I wouldnt put too much stock into that date Darth. Didnt you learn already from the promised 08 release? By now you should know better.

yes

promised 08 , and?

remenber

 

AOC most 1 year

warhammer ost 1 year

 

darkfall 1 moth

 

problem?


 

1 month?  That just beyond stupid.  Darkfall has been failing to meet announced development dates for years.  This latest date is nothing more than a dart thown at a barn after the most recent failure.  There's not a shred of evidence that anything will happen on January 23rd.

AoC and WAR both pushed back and delayed due to tester feedback during large public betas.  Darkfall has yet to do anything but Alpha testing.  Hundreds of testers involved amounts to only about 50 players online at any given time.

no 1 month

 

31 december or 22 january is 22 days

 

release darkfall december 2008

 

release official 22 january

 

22 days

 

AOC and warhammer - more than a year late, the you release date, pls most idea

Tasos has always been a slippery little eel when it comes to his infered release dates.
 

The guy is a real piece of work.

valpohawk93

Novice Member

Joined: 12/09/08
Posts: 9

12/11/08 12:58:24 PM#44

If the game releases on Jan 22 feature complete with the hundreds of skills and other planned mechanics balanced to the point to make the game at least playable, then the Averntine team should be hailed as genuises. Implementing everything they have planned without an extensive open beta period to properly vet it all out would be truly amazing. As has been mentioned before, people (lots of them), are the best way to root out the problems in your design. They seem to be not taking this approach.

Somehow, though, I don't think we will be calling them "genuises" after the 22nd.

I wish them the best of luck in this and truly hope they can pull it off.

 

 

 

Adigiron

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Joined: 1/11/08
Posts: 81

12/11/08 1:47:12 PM#45
Originally posted by singsofdeath
Originally posted by Focker

I hope they delay it another year,  Just cause they can! 

 

Me, too! I'm really going to miss the DF Forums once the game is released. It is just too much fun reading all this....all these well thought out posts.


 

it will still be here, a battle of what "Feature complete" actually means one side defending the lack of some of the previously mentioned features while the other state they were lied to about the features.

boojiboy

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Posts: 1366

12/11/08 2:22:19 PM#46
Originally posted by Flarinstar

There is a good chance there won't be an open beta. They are confident that they have fully tested the game and that open beta is unecessary. The only reason that there is the closed beta in the first place is to test different hardware specs utilized by gamers. 


 

Open beta can be like a free demo for some.  They could stand to lose a lot of box sales if people participate in the beta and find out they don't like the game. 

xzyax

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Joined: 10/02/08
Posts: 2071

12/11/08 2:33:28 PM#47
Originally posted by Adigiron
Originally posted by singsofdeath
Originally posted by Focker

I hope they delay it another year,  Just cause they can! 

 

Me, too! I'm really going to miss the DF Forums once the game is released. It is just too much fun reading all this....all these well thought out posts.


 

it will still be here, a battle of what "Feature complete" actually means one side defending the lack of some of the previously mentioned features while the other state they were lied to about the features.

Heh yup.

 

I think those that think this forum will be "normal" after release didn't spend much time in the Vanguard, PotBS, AoC, or WAR forums before release and the months afterward.

 

Vanguard's forums have returned to a mostly "normal" forums now, but it was many, many months afterwards before that happened.

 

 

The only way that the forum would be "normal" after release is if 100% of the people that tried it after release loved it and found all the features they were expecting to be 100% complete and to their expectations.

Now while it's true that there is a possibility that the above statement may indeed happen... I would be more surprised by that happening than my wife giving birth to a 5-headed hydra. 

downtoearth

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Joined: 2/26/08
Posts: 3176

12/11/08 2:35:06 PM#48
Originally posted by Radiick

 

I would just called Tasos' GF or cousin or best friend or neighbour or even the "Hall 2000" as they are the ONLY ones currently testing the game, so besides "srcipted" previews from the "Inn crowd" you won't find anyting new except delay and delay and delay and yet another delay and so on...............I will believe it when I see it.................

 

nothere not heh alot mroe than that

O yea 3 week public beta tasos said

Mythosaeon

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Posts: 62

12/11/08 2:36:03 PM#49
Originally posted by boojiboy
Originally posted by Flarinstar

There is a good chance there won't be an open beta. They are confident that they have fully tested the game and that open beta is unecessary. The only reason that there is the closed beta in the first place is to test different hardware specs utilized by gamers. 


 

Open beta can be like a free demo for some.  They could stand to lose a lot of box sales if people participate in the beta and find out they don't like the game. 


 

It works both way though.  Given the checkered past and total atomsphere of mistrust regarding this development, failing to have an open beta will result in many not willing to blindly pay for another potential Dark and Light.

I think it's a good bet that Darkfall will have a 1 to 2 week open trial prior to release and allow players to keep their characters.  Even if performance initially sucks players will be more likely to pay to keep their head start and continue to play with those they've forged alliances with to early on control server areas.

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___________________________________________________
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Rastical

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Posts: 51

12/11/08 2:37:01 PM#50
Originally posted by Silkskin

there's no profit in lying about a game,


 

There is when you're funded by state grants and there's proof that they received one already back in 06.

Who the fuck cares about your $14 / month when you can get 200 grand in one shot. And maybe even more as long as you keep developing.

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