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Zorndorf

Novice Member

Joined: 11/15/07
Posts: 3479

 
12/10/08 6:17:27 AM#1

Gamerankings.com gave an overview of the reviews (now one month old).

WOTLK score .... 93.1% on average.

Of course the players of other MMO's with empty servers won't agree

But let's face it, the competition is nowhere. NOT in professional reviews, NOT in subscriptions (the only valid user rating) and certainly NOT in new techniques used (phasing, tank combat, siege combat, daily heroic and open world PvP quests, to name a few).

I am calling the music as best feature. That philharmonic orchestre stands out. The development of WotLK must have costed a fortune.

 

Site Name / Link Article Date Rating Ratio


Jolt UK 12/9/2008 9.3 out of 10 93.0%
G4 - X-Play 12/8/2008 5 out of 5 100.0%
GamingTrend 12/8/2008 95 out of 100 95.0%
AceGamez 12/8/2008 10 out of 10 100.0%
PALGN 12/6/2008 9 out of 10 90.0%
Gametrailers 12/6/2008 9.2 out of 10 92.0%
GameSpot 12/3/2008 9 out of 10 90.0%
AtomicGamer 12/2/2008 93 out of 100 93.0%
ActionTrip 12/1/2008 9.1 out of 10 91.0%
Gameplanet 11/30/2008 9.5 out of 10 95.0%
VideoGamer 11/28/2008 9 out of 10 90.0%
GameZone 11/26/2008 9.5 out of 10 95.0%
IGN 11/26/2008 9 out of 10 90.0%
PC Zone UK 11/25/2008 86 out of 100 86.0%
Game Revolution 11/25/2008 B+ 85.0%
GameSpy 11/25/2008 4.5 out of 5 90.0%
Giant Bomb 11/21/2008 5 out of 5 100.0%
Ferrago 11/18/2008 92 out of 100 92.0%
Eurogamer 11/17/2008 10 out of 10 100.0%
Gameplayer 11/13/2008 9.5 out of 10 95.0%

 

x_rast_x

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/27/06
Posts: 669

12/10/08 6:25:19 AM#2
Originally posted by Zorndorf

Of course the players of other MMO's with empty servers won't agree

Huh?  250,000 people (give or take a few ten thousands) play on my server.

As for WoTLK, I'm sure it's great but my WoW days are behind me.  I encourage people to try out a variety of games and play what they like, but most people seem to be lemmings these days.

All the 'WoW is the second coming of Jesus you will see the LIGHT and be SAVED!' fanboys and 'WoW is complete crap and brought nothing but nooby DOOM to our formerly tiny community!' haters can go die in a fire, as far as I'm concerned.

I also treat 'professional' reviews with a grain of salt since it's been proven many times over the last twenty or thirty years that good reviews are less earned and more purchased.  User reviews on the other hand are usually pretty good, though with some titles you have to weed out the fanboys / haters to get actual, good info (this goes with more than just games too).

John.A.Zoid

Novice Member

Joined: 10/08/08
Posts: 1525

12/10/08 6:37:19 AM#3

Theres no other mmorpg worth playing out there and its a shame for us who were bored of the WOW format when we quit EQ lol.

7evenSteps

Novice Member

Joined: 12/08/08
Posts: 36

12/10/08 7:41:28 AM#4

WoW is the most complete , stable , and feature rich MMO out there. Whether you like it or not.

Numbers don't lie.

nomadian

Novice Member

Joined: 8/18/05
Posts: 3485

12/10/08 7:55:20 AM#5

Guild Wars:

Gamespot: 92%
IGN 9 out of 10
PC Gamer 85%
Game Informer 87.5%
CGW 90%
Play Magazine 90%
Videogamer 90%
Worthplaying 91%
Eurogamer 90%
Gamespy 90%

In short, who cares. You don't see Guild Wars fans touting it's scores over and over. Good for you if you like WoW but maybe just maybe understand not everyone likes it, shock horror. Same for Guild Wars.

Zayne3145

Novice Member

Joined: 6/28/07
Posts: 1446

May contain nuts.

12/10/08 7:58:45 AM#6

I can just hear a whole generation of 'Veteran gamers' facepalming in unison and grumbling at 'the state of games today'.

 

lol.

Sneakers05

Novice Member

Joined: 12/10/08
Posts: 323

http://helpourfuture.blogspot.com/

save our future.

12/10/08 8:41:37 AM#7

WoW currently is the best bang for your buck. Northrend is beautiful and fun.

http://helpourfuture.blogspot.com/

save our future.

Mrbloodworth

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/20/05
Posts: 4985

"pleasantly paralyzed"

12/10/08 9:11:29 AM#8

You may wish to waite a few for more LOTRO:MoM articles to come out.

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"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123

"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.

How are you?" -Me

VultureSkull

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/02/07
Posts: 1257

12/10/08 9:17:44 AM#9
Originally posted by Zorndorf
Originally posted by Xasapis

People still respond to viral marketing threads?

What's the purpose of this thread again?

The purpose is to show why Wow is the most hated MMORPG.

And it shouldn't be, if everyone would stand with his feet on the ground.

 


 

If WoW is played by the most people (8-9mil)how can it be the most hated ?!?

 

It is not liked the elitist MMO player but they are far far in the minority!

Currently playing WoW.
Played: Eve, VG, AoC, WAR,PS,FE, EQ2.
Looked at: LOTRO, DDO

nariusseldon

Elite Member

Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 2118

12/10/08 10:05:40 AM#10
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

You may wish to waite a few for more LOTRO:MoM articles to come out.

 

Well, if you look at metacritics.com, WOTLK is 92 and MOM is 88. If you look at gamerankings.com .. WOLK is 93% and MOM is 88%.

I am sure MOM is a good game and I planned to play it after i exhausted the content of WOTLK. However, there is no denial that WOTLK is great .. both in review and in sales. I have loads of fun playing it. It has the best content i have seen in an MMO. Very fun scripted quests, phasing (wow .. BIG changes in the world), vehicles and loads of new stuff to get.

Soundbyte

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/21/08
Posts: 110

12/10/08 10:19:00 AM#11
Originally posted by 7evenSteps

WoW is the most complete , stable , and feature rich MMO out there. Whether you like it or not.

Numbers don't lie.

 

Just like McDonalds is the most sold food out there. Does that make McDonalds the 'best-quality' food?

 

WOW is the McDonalds of MMOs. Dumbed down, generified, and mass-marketed.

Soundbyte

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/21/08
Posts: 110

12/10/08 10:19:57 AM#12
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

You may wish to waite a few for more LOTRO:MoM articles to come out.

 

Word on the street is that LOTRO sucks.

Hrica

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/31/05
Posts: 788

"Yesterday is history, Tomorrow a mystery, and today is a gift"

12/10/08 10:26:34 AM#13

If I was not pvp orientated, I would surley pick LoTRO over WoW any day....

If I was 14, well then I may want WoW's High School Musical atmosphere

Papadam

Elite Member

Joined: 12/09/07
Posts: 1304

12/10/08 10:28:10 AM#14
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

You may wish to waite a few for more LOTRO:MoM articles to come out.

 

Well, if you look at metacritics.com, WOTLK is 92 and MOM is 88. If you look at gamerankings.com .. WOLK is 93% and MOM is 88%.

I am sure MOM is a good game and I planned to play it after i exhausted the content of WOTLK. However, there is no denial that WOTLK is great .. both in review and in sales. I have loads of fun playing it. It has the best content i have seen in an MMO. Very fun scripted quests, phasing (wow .. BIG changes in the world), vehicles and loads of new stuff to get.


 

Wotlk is made by one of the largest gaming companies who is owned by one of the biggest media companies in the world. They have 11 million subs worldwide

MoM is made by a small indy company and have maybe 500k subs worldwide. (Yea LotrO have Chinese/Korean/Japanese/Russian servers aswell)

Considering this I think its pretty impressive that Turbine managed to release an expansion that rivals what Activision-Bllizzard have made with their expansion. Two good games with 2 good expansion. I just wish that blizzard whould start to evolve a bit instead and add something new...

If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd

saint4God

Novice Member

Joined: 7/09/07
Posts: 676

12/10/08 10:31:08 AM#15

Although Wrath of the Lich King brought about the best patch since the game started (improved graphics, game speed, etc.) I don't think it would be fair to say that this release is better than World of Warcraft in 2004.  To me, this takes second place, but is close behind.  I think there was a lot of momentum that helped that score.

http://www.allaboutgod.com/

Lazarus71

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/22/04
Posts: 341

Sun Tzu: He who wishes to fight must first count the cost.

12/10/08 10:33:51 AM#16
Originally posted by x_rast_x
Originally posted by Zorndorf

Of course the players of other MMO's with empty servers won't agree

Huh?  250,000 people (give or take a few ten thousands) play on my server.

As for WoTLK, I'm sure it's great but my WoW days are behind me.  I encourage people to try out a variety of games and play what they like, but most people seem to be lemmings these days.

All the 'WoW is the second coming of Jesus you will see the LIGHT and be SAVED!' fanboys and 'WoW is complete crap and brought nothing but nooby DOOM to our formerly tiny community!' haters can go die in a fire, as far as I'm concerned.

I also treat 'professional' reviews with a grain of salt since it's been proven many times over the last twenty or thirty years that good reviews are less earned and more purchased.  User reviews on the other hand are usually pretty good, though with some titles you have to weed out the fanboys / haters to get actual, good info (this goes with more than just games too).

Tell us how you realy feel! 
 

SignusM

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/07/06
Posts: 2004

12/10/08 10:38:23 AM#17

 That's absolutely disgusting and shameful, to think the industry has fallen this far. A parasite of a game that release virtually the same expansion they did 2 years ago getting a 9.3? The only thing they did beside raise the level cap yet again, and making you grind yet again, was steal a few ideas out of Warhammer and LotRO and shove them into its conglomoration of unoriginality. 

Jackio81

Novice Member

Joined: 11/11/08
Posts: 437

The MMO genre as a whole is a running joke considering a 5+ year old game is so dominant.

12/10/08 10:38:23 AM#18

You know I've come to a realization in the last couple of days concerning WoW. For a while there I use to think I hated the game. But the truth is I don't, what I hate is having to hear about it all the time like it's the end all be all of gaming......Like there is nothing else that can ever possibly come out to introduce variety into the MMo market again.

 

Variety has all of a sudden become a bad think in this business.....and that's just straight up sad to hear.


If you ask me what this industry needs is an enema.....

 

 

AlloughN

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/13/07
Posts: 155

A team can never lose, even if it is defeated, as long as it remains a team.

12/10/08 10:40:17 AM#19

WoW is the most hated by sandbox players. Themepark players vastly outnumber sandbox it seems.

So what? Just cause your corner is bigger, who really cares? Its not really the game for most people, its the type of game. WoW just gets hit the most because its the biggest target.

I hate WOW cause I hate themepark games, I could care less what its rating and population are.....

 

Narshe

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/19/07
Posts: 562

Somehow I knew in hell there would be mushrooms.

12/10/08 10:42:27 AM#20
Originally posted by Zorndorf

Of course the players of other MMO's with empty servers won't agree


You just had to throw that in there, eh? Try and make people feel bad even with all these rave reviews and subscriber numbers?

Typical..

 

Waiting for Fallen Earth, World of Darkness, Old Republic, FFXIV

Mrbloodworth

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/20/05
Posts: 4985

"pleasantly paralyzed"

12/10/08 10:50:01 AM#21
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

You may wish to waite a few for more LOTRO:MoM articles to come out.

 

Well, if you look at metacritics.com, WOTLK is 92 and MOM is 88. If you look at gamerankings.com .. WOLK is 93% and MOM is 88%.

I am sure MOM is a good game and I planned to play it after i exhausted the content of WOTLK. However, there is no denial that WOTLK is great .. both in review and in sales. I have loads of fun playing it. It has the best content i have seen in an MMO. Very fun scripted quests, phasing (wow .. BIG changes in the world), vehicles and loads of new stuff to get.

  Look at the number of reviews used. This is an average.

Numbers aside, Blizzard can not compete with the quality, amount of free content a year, scripting of quests/instances and dynamic content, nor can WOTLK compete with the grand-daddy of all dungeons, Moria.

If you do not agree, i would take a guess that your standards are simply lower, and thats fine, becouse its all about fun anyway.

Turbine also does not just use expansions as top level carrots as well, expansions are really expansions, they are for ALL level ranges, not just the end.

Also: Quiz time! How many things in WOTLK are taken from the original LOTRO game?

 

 

 

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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me

"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123

"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.

How are you?" -Me

AlloughN

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/13/07
Posts: 155

A team can never lose, even if it is defeated, as long as it remains a team.

12/10/08 11:08:37 AM#22

Wouldn't happen to be 93.1% of it would it? :P

Pappy13

Novice Member

Joined: 2/16/07
Posts: 2015

I dont need to
"get a life".
Im a gamer, I have
LOTS of LIVES!

12/10/08 11:42:49 AM#23
Originally posted by x_rast_x

I also treat 'professional' reviews with a grain of salt since it's been proven many times over the last twenty or thirty years that good reviews are less earned and more purchased.  User reviews on the other hand are usually pretty good, though with some titles you have to weed out the fanboys / haters to get actual, good info (this goes with more than just games too).


 

Mind showing us your "proof"?  I'm pretty sure that's an opinion.  In fact the last time that something along these lines was suggested, just the opposite was true, the review was not what the game developer thought it should be and supposedly put some pressure on the company to get rid of the game reviewer.  I think that's proof that game reviewer's are NOT bought.  At least not all of them.  And this was only a rumor, the company who released the reviewer said the decision had nothing to do with the review he gave.

I'd be willing to bet that professional reviewers are a lot less biased than your average player is.

Howler54

Novice Member

Joined: 5/15/08
Posts: 133

"There is no sin except stupidity." - Oscar Wilde

12/10/08 11:58:41 AM#24

I came back to Wow just to see the expansion, I played to level 77 and then I got tired of it.

The expansion is actually good, especially the music. I think the reviews are kinda right, I mean, they've added a lot of new content for the players to do and if you're a big fan, you will probably like it.

Thing is, it's to easy. I mean, after two days of Not rushing I had reached level 74. Then one or two days later I heard that a guild had already cleared the first new raid instance. I mean, come on..   Some may like getting things for minimal challenges but I don't.

I stopped at level 77, will maybe go back some other time, hopefully there will be some challenges when I get back.

piotrsan

Novice Member

Joined: 10/03/04
Posts: 41

12/10/08 12:10:03 PM#25
Originally posted by Pappy13
Originally posted by x_rast_x

I also treat 'professional' reviews with a grain of salt since it's been proven many times over the last twenty or thirty years that good reviews are less earned and more purchased.  User reviews on the other hand are usually pretty good, though with some titles you have to weed out the fanboys / haters to get actual, good info (this goes with more than just games too).


 

Mind showing us your "proof"?  I'm pretty sure that's an opinion.  In fact the last time that something along these lines was suggested, just the opposite was true, the review was not what the game developer thought it should be and supposedly put some pressure on the company to get rid of the game reviewer.  I think that's proof that game reviewer's are NOT bought.  At least not all of them.  And this was only a rumor, the company who released the reviewer said the decision had nothing to do with the review he gave.

I'd be willing to bet that professional reviewers are a lot less biased than your average player is.

An exception only confirms the principle.

 

 

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