Originally posted by arimer

Originally posted by taus01

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

And enough money in cash in the bank to pay the salaries of the FC team for 2 years.

 

They said they have enough to keep the games and development running for ONE year not TWO. The exact thing they said was:

"[...] keep developing and improving existing games without the help of external funding."

What you fail to see here Avery is that this is actually a bad thing. If they do not make money next year then it is over. They are not making money this year and there will be no hyped release and millions in box sales next year.

There will be no bank giving them money after next year unless they make a profit. At this point it seems to be very unlikely they break even next year.

 

There is an expansion planned for late next year so theres your hyped release and box sales.  Granted it wouldn't be near as much as the original box sold but it'd still be a good chunk.  PLus they could draw in loans and investors using their new MMO that's currently in the works.

This year:

1. Big hype and great box sales.
2. Another failed release like AO. Funcom becomes the company known for the 2 worst MMO releases in history.
3. Dubious finacial shenannigans with 6 million gone missing and suddenly returning the next quarter to smooth out the report.
4. Stock price approaching 0 (ZERO) in the next 2 months if it continues like the last 3 months.
5. Promises and hype continues but reality shows bad design, exploits and unfixable problems.
6. Subscribed fanbase is estimated at 100-150k.
 

Now tell me, which investor would invest in this companies new MMO after them failing 2 times and creating a 'hater base' that would not touch another funcom MMO with a 10 foot pole?

How many hardcore fans will have the patience to wait for a promised and hyped expansion that might get delivered late 2009? Especially after the latest DX10 news that show again that funcom can not be trusted with any announcements, even the fans are seeing this now.

Let's be realistic here, this is going to be a hard sale.

Originally posted by taus01

Originally posted by arimer

Originally posted by taus01

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

And enough money in cash in the bank to pay the salaries of the FC team for 2 years.

 

They said they have enough to keep the games and development running for ONE year not TWO. The exact thing they said was:

"[...] keep developing and improving existing games without the help of external funding."

What you fail to see here Avery is that this is actually a bad thing. If they do not make money next year then it is over. They are not making money this year and there will be no hyped release and millions in box sales next year.

There will be no bank giving them money after next year unless they make a profit. At this point it seems to be very unlikely they break even next year.

 

There is an expansion planned for late next year so theres your hyped release and box sales.  Granted it wouldn't be near as much as the original box sold but it'd still be a good chunk.  PLus they could draw in loans and investors using their new MMO that's currently in the works.

 

This year:

1. Big hype and great box sales.
2. Another failed release like AO. Funcom becomes the company known for the 2 worst MMO releases in history.
3. Dubious finacial shenannigans with 6 million gone missing and suddenly returning the next quarter to smooth out the report.
4. Stock price approaching 0 (ZERO) in the next 2 months if it continues like the last 3 months.
5. Promises and hype continues but reality shows bad design, exploits and unfixable problems.
6. Subscribed fanbase is estimated at 100-150k.
 

Now tell me, which investor would invest in this companies new MMO after them failing 2 times and creating a 'hater base' that would not touch another funcom MMO with a 10 foot pole?

How many hardcore fans will have the patience to wait for a promised and hyped expansion that might get delivered late 2009? Especially after the latest DX10 news that show again that funcom can not be trusted with any announcements, even the fans are seeing this now.

 

Let's be realistic here, this is going to be a hard sale.

 

 

Whats the latest DX10 news/?  That it's coming out?  Yeah that's a killer.  And what are the unfixable problems that you named as number 5?  CAuse most problems have been or are being fixed.

Third about your point with 2 bad  launches.  It won't matter.  There are always investors out there for anything.  Look at how many stupid products there are on the market.  Look at any Brett Ratner Movie.  There's always stupid people with money that will throw that money away.

Originally posted by arimer

Originally posted by taus01

Originally posted by arimer

Originally posted by taus01

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

And enough money in cash in the bank to pay the salaries of the FC team for 2 years.

 

They said they have enough to keep the games and development running for ONE year not TWO. The exact thing they said was:

"[...] keep developing and improving existing games without the help of external funding."

What you fail to see here Avery is that this is actually a bad thing. If they do not make money next year then it is over. They are not making money this year and there will be no hyped release and millions in box sales next year.

There will be no bank giving them money after next year unless they make a profit. At this point it seems to be very unlikely they break even next year.

 

There is an expansion planned for late next year so theres your hyped release and box sales.  Granted it wouldn't be near as much as the original box sold but it'd still be a good chunk.  PLus they could draw in loans and investors using their new MMO that's currently in the works.

 

This year:

1. Big hype and great box sales.
2. Another failed release like AO. Funcom becomes the company known for the 2 worst MMO releases in history.
3. Dubious finacial shenannigans with 6 million gone missing and suddenly returning the next quarter to smooth out the report.
4. Stock price approaching 0 (ZERO) in the next 2 months if it continues like the last 3 months.
5. Promises and hype continues but reality shows bad design, exploits and unfixable problems.
6. Subscribed fanbase is estimated at 100-150k.
 

Now tell me, which investor would invest in this companies new MMO after them failing 2 times and creating a 'hater base' that would not touch another funcom MMO with a 10 foot pole?

How many hardcore fans will have the patience to wait for a promised and hyped expansion that might get delivered late 2009? Especially after the latest DX10 news that show again that funcom can not be trusted with any announcements, even the fans are seeing this now.

 

Let's be realistic here, this is going to be a hard sale.

 

 

 

Whats the latest DX10 news/?  That it's coming out?  Yeah that's a killer.  And what are the unfixable problems that you named as number 5?  CAuse most problems have been or are being fixed.

 

Third about your point with 2 bad  launches.  It won't matter.  There are always investors out there for anything.  Look at how many stupid products there are on the market.  Look at any Brett Ratner Movie.  There's always stupid people with money that will throw that money away.

Keep believing mate......the game is great. Thats why the game has lost 100's of thousands of subscribers.

The thing that they cannot ever fix is the core of the game is a pile of crap. Ever decreasing numbers of player base....how many are going to be left in a year?

Long-winded game directors are long-winded.

He said the same thing for 4 paragraphs; way to fill up the space there.

Originally posted by arimer

Originally posted by taus01

Originally posted by arimer

Originally posted by taus01

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

And enough money in cash in the bank to pay the salaries of the FC team for 2 years.

 

They said they have enough to keep the games and development running for ONE year not TWO. The exact thing they said was:

"[...] keep developing and improving existing games without the help of external funding."

What you fail to see here Avery is that this is actually a bad thing. If they do not make money next year then it is over. They are not making money this year and there will be no hyped release and millions in box sales next year.

There will be no bank giving them money after next year unless they make a profit. At this point it seems to be very unlikely they break even next year.

 

There is an expansion planned for late next year so theres your hyped release and box sales.  Granted it wouldn't be near as much as the original box sold but it'd still be a good chunk.  PLus they could draw in loans and investors using their new MMO that's currently in the works.

 

This year:

1. Big hype and great box sales.
2. Another failed release like AO. Funcom becomes the company known for the 2 worst MMO releases in history.
3. Dubious finacial shenannigans with 6 million gone missing and suddenly returning the next quarter to smooth out the report.
4. Stock price approaching 0 (ZERO) in the next 2 months if it continues like the last 3 months.
5. Promises and hype continues but reality shows bad design, exploits and unfixable problems.
6. Subscribed fanbase is estimated at 100-150k.
 

Now tell me, which investor would invest in this companies new MMO after them failing 2 times and creating a 'hater base' that would not touch another funcom MMO with a 10 foot pole?

How many hardcore fans will have the patience to wait for a promised and hyped expansion that might get delivered late 2009? Especially after the latest DX10 news that show again that funcom can not be trusted with any announcements, even the fans are seeing this now.

 

Let's be realistic here, this is going to be a hard sale.

 

 

 

Whats the latest DX10 news/?  That it's coming out?  Yeah that's a killer.  And what are the unfixable problems that you named as number 5?  CAuse most problems have been or are being fixed.

 

Third about your point with 2 bad  launches.  It won't matter.  There are always investors out there for anything.  Look at how many stupid products there are on the market.  Look at any Brett Ratner Movie.  There's always stupid people with money that will throw that money away.

The above in red has to be the best line I've ever read in the AOC forums.