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Originally posted by imbant
Again you avoid all the questions. How can they do all this with such a small team? They have 100 times the features of WAR, AOC and even WoW. Why are people in the water moving as if it was one large sprite and not player controlled individual people playing? How can they promise to have scaleable servers with 10s of thousands of players when they never tested with that many people? Why let the camera cut every time combat ensues? Where are the real previews from reputable gaming magazines? What about incl. UI in the videos? Where is the Underworld? THe underwater trackless kingdoms? Seamonsters and other monsters? The video showing that advanced combat system actually works (from a single player perspective)?
Etc etc..
You just can't explain it. So stop posting if all you do is evading the questions!
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12/06/08 1:27:59 PM#102
The reason why this game is more feasible to be feature complete is one thing WAR and AOC didn't have: Time. |
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Originally posted by xzyax
But even that Feature list has quite a few listing that have an AR (Accuracy Rating) of 5 or less. Meaning on a 1 to 10 scale that there is only a 50/50 chance that some of them may in fact still be in the game.
That's part of the problem. It would be nice if either the NDA would drop sufficiently before Jan. 22nd so that we can know a bit more of this, or Tasos or one of the other Devs. go through the list and give us a run-down on what's in and what's out.
With the Release just 6 weeks away, they know by know what is in and what is out. That's all I ask, just be honest with us before it Releases and we have to find out for ourselves what is missing. If that isn't done before Release and there are indeed Features missing... how is that better than what AoC did then? That is what I'm hoping DarkFall does not do.
Nope... they have the means to create the most advanced online game ever, but they dont have the time or money to update their feature list on the website with what they MUST know by now. They don't even put the release date on the website...
It is a joke.....
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12/06/08 1:28:42 PM#104
Yawn, pointless replies by overskeptical trolls. The game is obviously coming out, yes their PR is different... Aventurine want to put money into development and gain marketing by word and mouth from having a quality game, they have been working on the game for a very long time so have had alot of time to get all the feature and content in. You lot are just basically being overly pessimistic, the answers are there and you just choose not to believe them, thats your choice but your just trolling for no real purpose and with no real argument. |
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12/06/08 1:29:29 PM#105
Originally posted by Draccan
The joke is surely on somebody. Jan 22 we'll find out...
or maybe not |
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Originally posted by RDBeast
LOL look like four posts above and answer the questions there. You can't. No one can.
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12/06/08 1:32:07 PM#107
Originally posted by OpiumKing
Those figures are in Norwiegnen Kroner, if you look at the balance sheet they have never had more than + or - $11,000 since 2002 when then the devs went to Aventurine.. It's not a properly function business, it's a just a shell. I would imagine that is just exists on paper and has bank account with a small overdraft facility.
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12/06/08 1:34:00 PM#108
Originally posted by Draccan
Not even a quarter of your posts are worth reading FYI. Btw, funny you should mention AoC, that POS game did everything right according to you: had preorders, huge marketing, beta leaks, loads of game mags reviewed it... and yet it failed in so many levels. Same goes for Vanguard and they had to sell out later on. I also would like to see all kinds of things about Darkfall, and have my doubts about the game and their claims. They've shown lot of their biggest features, like naval combat, if you choose not to believe their videos then that's your right to do so. Beta leaks usually happen if people are not happy with the game, I suspect the number of new testers in their beta at the moment is small (100-200 maybe) and that maybe Aventurine has said they will kick every tester out of beta if someone leaks somewhere. And maybe, just maybe the game is actually that good. Once again, as long as they don't start selling preorders and let people test before buying, I really don't see how any gamer could have any reason to cry about how they do things. It's not like you lose any money for waiting a few more weeks, is it? |
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12/06/08 1:34:08 PM#109
Originally posted by RDBeast Yawn, pointless replies by overskeptical trolls. The game is obviously coming out,
What makes you say that? Because THEY TOLD YOU that it would? The game was promised to come before the end of 2008. It didn't. What makes you think it's going to come out in 2009 now at this new release date. |
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12/06/08 1:34:43 PM#110
Originally posted by OpiumKing
What makes you say that? Because THEY TOLD YOU that it would? The game was promised to come before the end of 2008. It didn't. What makes you think it's going to come out in 2009 now at this new release date.
Because some of the people saying it will have never lied or fallen through on a promise and is a respected business....sigh so sad you dont even research before you bash. WAIT TROLL!!!! You think im talking about Aventurine? lol silly troll... Im talking about Audio Visual Entertainment....A respected company that is announcing the release date as well. First time they have done this. GG. ~~ Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296 "The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester "If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos |
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Originally posted by busdriver
Not even a quarter of your posts are worth reading FYI. Btw, funny you should mention AoC, that POS game did everything right according to you: had preorders, huge marketing, beta leaks, loads of game mags reviewed it... and yet it failed in so many levels. Same goes for Vanguard and they had to sell out later on. I also would like to see all kinds of things about Darkfall, and have my doubts about the game and their claims. They've shown lot of their biggest features, like naval combat, if you choose not to believe their videos then that's your right to do so. Beta leaks usually happen if people are not happy with the game, I suspect the number of new testers in their beta at the moment is small (100-200 maybe) and that maybe Aventurine has said they will kick every tester out of beta if someone leaks somewhere. And maybe, just maybe the game is actually that good. Once again, as long as they don't start selling preorders and let people test before buying, I really don't see how any gamer could have any reason to cry about how they do things. It's not like you lose any money for waiting a few more weeks, is it?
Again avoiding all the hard questions. If they have 200 testers how can they be ready to launch in January???? How can they claim tens of thousands pr. server if they don't even try it out? Jeeeeezesss
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12/06/08 1:37:04 PM#112
Originally posted by imbant
Because some of the people saying it will have never lied or fallen through on a promise and is a respected business....sigh so sad you dont even research before you bash. WAIT TROLL!!!! You think im talking about Aventurine? lol silly troll... Im talking about Audio Visual Entertainment....A respected company that is announcing the release date as well. First time they have done this. GG.
Can the game possibly be as much fun as you are having on the forums calling everyone a troll? |
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12/06/08 1:37:55 PM#113
Originally posted by imbant
You mean some unknown DVD distribution company in Greece that was forced to take on Darkfall and try a new business model because piracy was ruining their main source of business? Helluva "publisher" they managed to secure for the best MMO since sliced bread. I am done with this bullshit. Let the frantic fanboys live in their fucked up little world for another month or so.. until it all comes crashing down. |
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12/06/08 1:39:55 PM#114
Well this game has been in developmenet for the last 7 years. I dont doubt them when they say they can implement all of this into their game. They have definetly had the time to. Who cares how small the team is. They may all be geniuses and they have had quite a while to do all this. Oh well we will see what it is like when the game comes out. |
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12/06/08 1:41:05 PM#115
How can they do all this with such a small team? They have 100 times the features of WAR, AOC and even WoW. Time mainly. And Blizzard wasn't really aiming for a "feature complete" game to begin with. They wanted to save all that for expansions obviously. Blizzard also devotes their resources to various projects at once. EDIT: Rember that a very complex MMO is actually more niche than the dumbed down ones. That's why the others don't have as much I'd say. Besides, look at Eve Online. ]Why are people in the water moving as if it was one large sprite and not player controlled individual people playing? If your talking about the 17min video, that wasn't scripted. But there was a freecam in use. That's why it was believe to be scripted. They were somewhat setup and choregraphed to show features. How can they promise to have scaleable servers with 10s of thousands of players when they never tested with that many people? You can test servers with multiple connections with various emulators. Not sure how exactly it's done, but network IT specialists are well aware of this. Doesn't mean they wont' with OB though. All MMO's somewhat take a risk with server numbers. Especially EVE. Why let the camera cut every time combat ensues? Not sure what your talking about here. Combat has been shown a lot. Whether it's robust we'll have to "feel" if it is on release. Where are the real previews from reputable gaming magazines? Usually takes a lot of money/ass kissing to do this. And honestly, I would not want my game reviewed by someone that gives good ones for cash. What about incl. UI in the videos? Look at the Athens Digital Week Video. Should clarify. Beta responses show the UI need works however. Where is the Underworld? Probably one of the things they want to show in the game itself. They wanted to keep some stuff a suprise. THe underwater trackless kingdoms? That's the more far fetched feature. If they missed it, I can see why. Water combat and such sucks. Seamonsters and other monsters? Not hard to implement. The video showing that advanced combat system actually works (from a single player perspective)? There are videos. But we won't know if it "works" until we play it. Right now combat looks clunky, but various beta responses says it needs to be played to understand.
I can understand your problems with the dev of this game, and speculation. But what your asking is very time consuming. Showing each and every single feature would be a bit tough. This is why there will be a free trial to the game, so we can see at least some of these features. Not all of them though. |
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12/06/08 1:42:33 PM#116
Originally posted by Draccan
Yet none of that is removed on their website. Not even the release date is announced. Lol Why are you so messed up over this game? Take it easy and go do something else before you burst. Theirs lots of games out there don’t get silly over this. If its good then great, if not then so be it.
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12/06/08 1:42:56 PM#117
OMFG do you think that if you are wrong about something it will destroy your soul? There is information about the game out there and it is obviously going to be coming out at some point. What makes you think your opinion is worth anything when all your doing is just choosing to disbelieve ANYTHING that is said. Its as if your on some delusional crusade against the game.
Its as if you think, for some reason, that everything is lies. Its as if Aventurine have taken your girlfriend and all your own and left you to rot so now your on a crusade against them. They havnt done anything of the sort they are just makng a game that they hope to be great fun to play, and your bashing the game the company and Tasos like you have some huge grudge. Jesus man have some optimism in your life because if you dont surely you will start to get suicidal or something. |
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12/06/08 1:43:40 PM#118
I wouldn't bother arguing with these guys, they are obviously about 15 years old and won't believe anything that is beyond their extremely limited preconceptions. |
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Originally posted by hawaiiman
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12/06/08 1:45:27 PM#120
Originally posted by nathanpinard
The problem with OP is after you present the answers he asked for..he says he knows this ..but he decided to ignore it... -----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- "There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE) |
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12/06/08 1:48:07 PM#121
I added more, and fixed the quotes.
How does this damned quote system work on this site? The [quote] tags don't work. |
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12/06/08 1:49:05 PM#122
Originally posted by Draccan
The game is in beta and under an NDA. They don't have a large staff to spend lots of time making videos for you. When the NDA is lifted, ask these questions. Demanding information from a community who are as ignorant as you or legally obliged to not speak about the game doesn't make any sense. It's like going to a video arcade and demanding to know about the care and upkeep of Alpaccas. This is a crazy idea, I know, but I want you to write it down and think about it. Wait until the NDA is lifted, then compare this list to what is in the game. Also, why don't you take a little more effort and actually choose the features that you doubt are in the game, some of those things you listed are so obviously included, you just seem foolish to mention them. |
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12/06/08 1:50:34 PM#123
Tasos says it's feature complete and ready for release; in fact, more ready for release than most other games. So I'm expecting exactly this and will allow the 22nd to come and go before I make any more decisions of this games validity in the mmorpg market. |
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12/06/08 1:51:36 PM#124
Damn Richard Garriot did it 1997.
Its 2008 and its about fucking time to do it again. |
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12/06/08 1:53:04 PM#125
Originally posted by Draccan Realize that the language behind a lot of this is to sell the game too. "countless small islands," You could probably count them ya know...
Other than that, i gotta ask...what's the problem? If you don't believe it then don't. The game seems to good to be true, so if it lives up to the hype then what is the problem? If it doesn't, well you're just another nay-sayer, so again, what's the problem? |
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