Originally posted by GiveMePvP

Originally posted by convict

The fact is, they're releasing it half assed so they can say we have dx10 by Christmas, more marketing is all it is. They'll release it now and fix it later like everything else they do. I'm sure a couple people here will come to defend them releasing it unfinished.

 

They are really firing the big guns this Christmas. I strongly believe that if they cannot turn AoC around before the year is over, they might have to sell AoC in January.

And what do you base that belief on? They still run the AO servers so cutting down the cost of servers by merging them will make the game be able to run for quite some time still. And there is no way they can manage to turn AoC around and gets tons of subscribers this year unless everyone buys it in christmas presents and fire up their account again. You know it just as well as me that turning a MMO around takes time, they are on the right track, the game keeps improving and by Q1 2009, you might see the first resulkts when itemization and balance has been reworked. I doubt we will see the masses returning the remaining weeks of this year.

Originally posted by mackdawg19

 Avery, do me a huge favor and post some SS's in a thread once the patch goes to test live. I would love to see what type of imporvements they have made visually. Might even promote me to buy a better video card and re enable my account. Thanks for the notes btw also, things are looking great.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/487/1/

A page comparing screenshots in Dx10 and Dx9.

Here you have a Video from Funcom with the dx10 enabled

ftp://ftp.funcom.com/media/Age_of_Conan/videos/24jan07/conan_dx10_tease_720p.wmv

show's a bit of how things looks like. Quite like what I see. :)

Originally posted by Crashloop

Originally posted by mackdawg19

 Avery, do me a huge favor and post some SS's in a thread once the patch goes to test live. I would love to see what type of imporvements they have made visually. Might even promote me to buy a better video card and re enable my account. Thanks for the notes btw also, things are looking great.

 

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/487/1/

A page comparing screenshots in Dx10 and Dx9.

Here you have a Video from Funcom with the dx10 enabled

ftp://ftp.funcom.com/media/Age_of_Conan/videos/24jan07/conan_dx10_tease_720p.wmv

show's a bit of how things looks like. Quite like what I see. :)

Lol, that comparison is so obviously bullshit.

If I remember correctly those shadows and light beams where there as well in the DX9 version of the forest, and the one with the campfire just has foliage disabled, and the drawing distance much closer.

Looks like a marketing guy had some fun dragging some sliders around, and then posted the ugly version as DX9 and the normal version as DX10.

Good going with the lying Funcom.

Originally posted by Lieven

Originally posted by Crashloop

Originally posted by mackdawg19

 Avery, do me a huge favor and post some SS's in a thread once the patch goes to test live. I would love to see what type of imporvements they have made visually. Might even promote me to buy a better video card and re enable my account. Thanks for the notes btw also, things are looking great.

 

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/487/1/

A page comparing screenshots in Dx10 and Dx9.

Here you have a Video from Funcom with the dx10 enabled

ftp://ftp.funcom.com/media/Age_of_Conan/videos/24jan07/conan_dx10_tease_720p.wmv

show's a bit of how things looks like. Quite like what I see. :)

 

Lol, that comparison is so obviously bullshit.

If I remember correctly those shadows and light beams where there as well in the DX9 version of the forest, and the one with the campfire just has foliage disabled, and the drawing distance much closer.

Looks like a marketing guy had some fun dragging some sliders around, and then posted the ugly version as DX9 and the normal version as DX10.

Good going with the lying Funcom.

If you remember correctly yes, there is an IF  here keep that in mind. But  since you so clealry knows how Dx10 should look please enlighten me on it. :)

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/bioshock_directx10_performance/page4.asp

this is a comparison for Dx10 and Dx9 for bioshock, and the difference is really not that easy to spot unless you study the details. you will see light effects being different, some details is clearer, but nothing that really makes you go WOW OMFG!!!!

Originally posted by Crashloop

If you remember correctly yes, there is an IF  here keep that in mind. But  since you so clealry knows how Dx10 should look please enlighten me on it. :)

 

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/bioshock_directx10_performance/page4.asp

 

this is a comparison for Dx10 and Dx9 for bioshock, and the difference is really not that easy to spot unless you study the details. you will see light effects being different, some details is clearer, but nothing that really makes you go WOW OMFG!!!!

Plus there is all the extra effects that have been added in over the past few months of  further development to come that weren't even announced back then. In beta dx10 was available as an option but was disabled such as for the preview weekend as can be read here: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26349063

In beta the options were there too and some people reported a difference however it was just a check box really for most part.

There were many conventions were dx10 was shown but ultmately the choice to postpone it was received badly but proved to be the right choice in improving other things that needed the attention more so(whether that fully worked out or not at the time).

Now we have partial DX10 coming to test server probably next week, and although away for xmas I intended to do a before and after video with performance in those area where it is available. As the patches go on throughout the next 8 weeks or so ( I reckon it will be on test) I also believe they will keep adding in extra's in this area as time goes on (previous test server update game notes testify logic to this, and there is currently no reason I can think of otherwise to think it won't go like this at this time)

Some of the best of DX10 coming to Conan and not seen in other mmorpg's to this extent can be seen here:  http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/191/view/videos/play/1296 from about 3.15 onwards

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Plus there is all the extra effects that have been added in over the past few months of  further development to come that weren't even announced back then. In beta dx10 was available as an option but was disabled such as for the preview weekend as can be read here: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26349063

In beta the options were there too and some people reported a difference however it was just a check box really for most part.

I'm not quite sure what you are talking about here regarding beta and DX10  but I can tell you that DX10 was NOT in beta in ANY shape or form. All they did was add DX10 check box in options to get people hyped up thinking DX10 is coming but that option didn't do ANYTHING.

People who chose the option "DX10" and said there was a difference were blind idiots. FC themselves later said this option does nothing.

Originally posted by GiveMePvP

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Plus there is all the extra effects that have been added in over the past few months of  further development to come that weren't even announced back then. In beta dx10 was available as an option but was disabled such as for the preview weekend as can be read here: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26349063

In beta the options were there too and some people reported a difference however it was just a check box really for most part.

 

I'm not quite sure what you are talking about here regarding beta and DX10  but I can tell you that DX10 was NOT in beta in ANY shape or form. All they did was add DX10 check box in options to get people hyped up thinking DX10 is coming but that option didn't do ANYTHING.

People who chose the option "DX10" and said there was a difference were blind idiots. FC themselves later said this option does nothing.

No FC statment was that the difference, at that time, was negligable and that was the rason they removed it to add more indepth effects to the game. If you notice, some of what DX10 added to the game in the early stages is now supported by DX9 which is evident when you play the game on max settings.

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by GiveMePvP

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Plus there is all the extra effects that have been added in over the past few months of  further development to come that weren't even announced back then. In beta dx10 was available as an option but was disabled such as for the preview weekend as can be read here: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26349063

In beta the options were there too and some people reported a difference however it was just a check box really for most part.

 

I'm not quite sure what you are talking about here regarding beta and DX10  but I can tell you that DX10 was NOT in beta in ANY shape or form. All they did was add DX10 check box in options to get people hyped up thinking DX10 is coming but that option didn't do ANYTHING.

People who chose the option "DX10" and said there was a difference were blind idiots. FC themselves later said this option does nothing.

 

No FC statment was that the difference, at that time, was negligable and that was the rason they removed it to add more indepth effects to the game. If you notice, some of what DX10 added to the game in the early stages is now supported by DX9 which is evident when you play the game on max settings.

Lol sure. You believe that lie if you want. I don't, I was there.

* Three rival mercenary groups have begun camping in the Cimmerian end of the Border Kingdoms.

wonder what thats about. they shud make 3 way team pvp there :P

Resource items will now have a chance of dropping in PvP.
* PvP droppable resources are now marked as such in their mouseover tooltip

interesting!

anyone know more? they going to add rare resource nodes in BK for people to fight over or something?

Originally posted by Consensus

* Three rival mercenary groups have begun camping in the Cimmerian end of the Border Kingdoms.

 

wonder what thats about. they shud make 3 way team pvp there :P

Now there is an idea!

However, did you see that "* Resource items will now have a chance of dropping in PvP. These will be PvP Resource items (a new mechanic introduced in Update 1.04). More info to follow..." from which one the dev's said "These resources will be found in one of the border kingdoms"

Also looking forward to these 3 new area's, especially the 2 new level 80 ones :)

Cradle of Decay - Level 43 group instance, accessed through Field of the Dead
* Xibaluku - Level 80 group instance
* The Slaughterhouse Cellar - Level 80 single player instance
* Players can now desocket/delete gems in their items by opening the info view of the item and using the shift-rightclick menu on a gem. Desocketing will require a potion crafted by an alchemist. The recipe for this item drops in Xibaluku.
 

I'm re-installing AOC. I have got to see this.

Originally posted by trev9999

I'm re-installing AOC. I have got to see this.

This patch won't be out before january or so. the patch notes are a tease of what is coming hopefully next week to test live servers :)

pfft, not worth coming back. if it was so difficult to optimize the game for DX10 then why Funcom had the nerve to say before launch and print on the game box that DX10 was in the game? No thanks, I will never buy a game from them.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Consensus

* Three rival mercenary groups have begun camping in the Cimmerian end of the Border Kingdoms.

 

wonder what thats about. they shud make 3 way team pvp there :P

 

Now there is an idea!

However, did you see that "* Resource items will now have a chance of dropping in PvP. These will be PvP Resource items (a new mechanic introduced in Update 1.04). More info to follow..." from which one the dev's said "These resources will be found in one of the border kingdoms"

Also looking forward to these 3 new area's, especially the 2 new level 80 ones :)

Cradle of Decay - Level 43 group instance, accessed through Field of the Dead
* Xibaluku - Level 80 group instance
* The Slaughterhouse Cellar - Level 80 single player instance
* Players can now desocket/delete gems in their items by opening the info view of the item and using the shift-rightclick menu on a gem. Desocketing will require a potion crafted by an alchemist. The recipe for this item drops in Xibaluku.
 

 

yeah I didn't read that much about the reasource thing, it sounds like what I was asking for on the forums a couple of years back (dunno if you remember me as banok from forums). I'd like to know more, but if this is done well it could revive pvp from is vegative kheshetta zerg state.

am definatley going to come back at some point, I waiting for server merges and them to make minigames share servers (less probable?).

Originally posted by Consensus

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Consensus

* Three rival mercenary groups have begun camping in the Cimmerian end of the Border Kingdoms.

 

wonder what thats about. they shud make 3 way team pvp there :P

 

Now there is an idea!

However, did you see that "* Resource items will now have a chance of dropping in PvP. These will be PvP Resource items (a new mechanic introduced in Update 1.04). More info to follow..." from which one the dev's said "These resources will be found in one of the border kingdoms"

Also looking forward to these 3 new area's, especially the 2 new level 80 ones :)

Cradle of Decay - Level 43 group instance, accessed through Field of the Dead
* Xibaluku - Level 80 group instance
* The Slaughterhouse Cellar - Level 80 single player instance
* Players can now desocket/delete gems in their items by opening the info view of the item and using the shift-rightclick menu on a gem. Desocketing will require a potion crafted by an alchemist. The recipe for this item drops in Xibaluku.
 

 

 

yeah I didn't read that much about the reasource thing, it sounds like what I was asking for on the forums a couple of years back (dunno if you remember me as banok from forums). I'd like to know more, but if this is done well it could revive pvp from is vegative kheshetta zerg state.

am definatley going to come back at some point, I waiting for server merges and them to make minigames share servers (less probable?).

 

I remember mate :)  I find it curious that a dev said in "One" of the border kingdoms. It looks like that are branching it out more, if "PVP resources only drop in this one area then and they turn out important then it's surely a good thing. I like to PvP and I like to craft :) The crafting needs a little bit more loving for my tastes but the new craft guy looks to have a good plan.

Originally posted by GiveMePvP

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Plus there is all the extra effects that have been added in over the past few months of  further development to come that weren't even announced back then. In beta dx10 was available as an option but was disabled such as for the preview weekend as can be read here: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26349063

In beta the options were there too and some people reported a difference however it was just a check box really for most part.

 

I'm not quite sure what you are talking about here regarding beta and DX10  but I can tell you that DX10 was NOT in beta in ANY shape or form. All they did was add DX10 check box in options to get people hyped up thinking DX10 is coming but that option didn't do ANYTHING.

People who chose the option "DX10" and said there was a difference were blind idiots. FC themselves later said this option does nothing.

Not saying I agree or disagree with you, but do you have a link for that statement? I wouldn't think FC would be that outright as to mention the feature did absolutley nothing to improve graphics.

There was not a DX10 exe in beta. DX10 requires Shader model 4, which was not in CB either.

Not long to go now and it will be in even better than intended something which the haters will be hard pressed to disagree with.

Originally posted by Douhk

Not saying I agree or disagree with you, but do you have a link for that statement? I wouldn't think FC would be that outright as to mention the feature did absolutley nothing to improve graphics.

There is no link anymore. It's gone. And you needed to be "special" to get that information in the first place.

Holy sheit, the new patch rock. How can it be fcking bigger than last one.lol...lol...lol... My god. ANother midrange level dungeon. 2 more lvl 80 dungeons. DX10, more performance increases, and a ton of new content in general. Ohhhh man, I am looking forward to when this hits live server.

Originally posted by WargPest

Holy sheit, the new patch rock. How can it be fcking bigger than last one.lol...lol...lol... My god. ANother midrange level dungeon. 2 more lvl 80 dungeons. DX10, more performance increases, and a ton of new content in general. Ohhhh man, I am looking forward to when this hits live server.

For me this new patch offers nothing interesting. More PvP content is needed and bad. Everything else is just fluff.

Oh, and it might take as long as 2 months before this patch goes to live server. They haven't even set any dates yet so it'll probably go to testlive sometime next year.