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Tyres100

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11/27/08 10:50:58 AM#51
Originally posted by Jefferson81

Let the parents impose the limits, this should not be the work of the game company.

And I would be pretty pissed off as an adult if my new MMO doesn't let me play as much as I wants.

This is just a very stupid idea and I bet you a dollar that there will be many angry threads on Aions forum about it.

 

Do you even know how much 300 hours a month equates to? This will help with bots and farmers.

300 hrs a month is more then the average gamer, besides it amounts to about 10hrs a day play time which is about what a hardcore gamer plays around.

If the limit was less around 5hrs day then I would have a problem with this, otherwise 300 is a great choice by Aion.

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pb1285n

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11/27/08 10:51:37 AM#52

Smoking kills - maybe we should enforce how many cigarettes a person can smoke?

Drinking kills - maybe we should enfoce how much a person can drink?

Overeating kills - maybe we should enforce how much a person can eat?

Watching TV kills - maybe we should enforce how much TV a person can watch?

 

The point I am getting is that we are adults and we should be responsible for how we live our life. In the case of a child then the parents should be the one putting the restrictions not the game.

erandur

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Posts: 694

11/27/08 10:54:59 AM#53

 10 hours/day is pretty pathetic anyway. I play games a lot, but 10 hours/day... on 1 game?! Those people really need help, and 10 hours/day is the perfect kind of help. This will also prevent massive afk'ing, saving a lot of server space. 

Btw, If you have a job/go to school, how can you even play 10 hours/day? 8 hours of work/school, + 10 hours of gaming, leaves you like... 6 hours of sleeping, eating, having a life. And if they don't have a job, they don't have any money. Then how can they afford a decent pc (which Aion will need to witness its full glory)? 

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Ephimero

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Posts: 1839

11/27/08 11:02:03 AM#54
Originally posted by pb1285n

Smoking kills - maybe we should enforce how many cigarettes a person can smoke?

Drinking kills - maybe we should enfoce how much a person can drink?

Overeating kills - maybe we should enforce how much a person can eat?

Watching TV kills - maybe we should enforce how much TV a person can watch?


 

You pay 3€ (in my country at least) for 20 cigarretes, you run out of cigarretes as soon as you smoke them all.

You pay 14€ for a Brugal bottle here, 70 cl and you're out of Brugal.

You pay 4€ for a McDonalds meal here, after around 20 minutes, you're out of McDonalds.

Point made.

Calintz333

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Posts: 986

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11/27/08 11:03:24 AM#55

I love it 300h/mo should be the limit, Anyone who plays games over that should really rethink their lifestyle choices. And for those few disabled players who can't do much outside or get outside the house there are always other games. But Seriously I always wanted those limits to come to our games too.

Korby

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Joined: 1/26/07
Posts: 371

11/27/08 11:06:57 AM#56

They better implement an offline trading system then, I like to vend stuff overnight.

xbellx777

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Posts: 718

11/27/08 11:07:50 AM#57

ya this is a good idea but i dont think youll ever have the companies impose this.  why would they stop ppl from playing their games? they dont care about their fans health just the money. guess that is how capitalism works unless you have someone decent at the top. the only thing i can see them doing is after a couple hours of playing having a message come up saying take a break youve been playing for x amount of hours. some game did that i think it was guild wars im not sure but i thought that was a good idea.  but were in america i highly doubt that something like limiting you to 300 hours a month of playing time would work even if it is a good idea.

pb1285n

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11/27/08 11:08:22 AM#58

You have no point!

If you smoke a pack of cigarrettes, you can go out and buy more

If you eat a cheeseburger, you can buy more

If you drink a beer, you can go out and buy more

 

We are not talking about adding a pay scale to games based on the time you play (which is wrong on a whole nother level), we're talking about putting a national restriction on how much you can play.

I am saying no double standards. If we are saying it needs restrictions for health reasons then we need to put restrictions on anything that is unhealthy.

Ascension08

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11/27/08 11:13:08 AM#59

Yeah, like we need companies babysitting us. No thanks. If someone ruins their life because of a game, let them. As long as they (think) they're happy doing it. I don't think companies wouldn't do it because of money, because unless they charged by the hour it's still $15 a month, 300 hour limit or not. 

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Ephimero

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11/27/08 11:15:06 AM#60
Originally posted by pb1285n

You have no point!

If you smoke a pack of cigarrettes, you can go out and buy more

If you eat a cheeseburger, you can buy more

If you drink a beer, you can go out and buy more

 

We are not talking about adding a pay scale to games based on the time you play (which is wrong on a whole nother level), we're talking about putting a national restriction on how much you can play.

I am saying no double standards. If we are saying it needs restrictions for health reasons then we need to put restrictions on anything that is unhealthy.

 

You can buy 2 accounts if you want to play more than 300 hours every month. This isn't about double standards, this is marketing and payment models. The thing is that nobody forces you to pay for something that you don't accept. And my whole point was simple: Everything is limited on the basic payment method.

karat76

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Joined: 8/22/06
Posts: 381

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11/27/08 11:17:43 AM#61

I have no probelm with it. I don't care if they drop it to 200

Caligulug

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11/27/08 11:19:36 AM#62

This isn't china so no thanks.

pb1285n

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Posts: 409

11/27/08 11:26:01 AM#63
Originally posted by Ephimero
Originally posted by pb1285n

You have no point!

If you smoke a pack of cigarrettes, you can go out and buy more

If you eat a cheeseburger, you can buy more

If you drink a beer, you can go out and buy more

 

We are not talking about adding a pay scale to games based on the time you play (which is wrong on a whole nother level), we're talking about putting a national restriction on how much you can play.

I am saying no double standards. If we are saying it needs restrictions for health reasons then we need to put restrictions on anything that is unhealthy.

 

You can buy 2 accounts if you want to play more than 300 hours every month. This isn't about double standards, this is marketing and payment models. The thing is that nobody forces you to pay for something that you don't accept. And my whole point was simple: Everything is limited on the basic payment method.

 

No you don't have a point.

If it was the same thing then you could play as long as you want and pay more based on how many hours you play. The reason Korea has time limit restrictions is because of the high profile deaths that have happened due to MMOs, the US will never put a restriction like that simply because of the capitalist society we live in. They may put in a pay scale but that like I said is different. It gives people a choice to play longer if they want to.

Oh and in Korea you can't just create another account. They check your KSSN and only allow one account per KSSN.

Hrica

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11/27/08 11:30:13 AM#64

Well, if you play more than 10 hours per day, you may have a problem and need to get out of the house.

Seriously, it's unhealthy

I play about 3-4 hours a day tops and I still have problems with my eyes and weight.

Blodpls

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Posts: 1466

11/27/08 11:32:19 AM#65

Regardless of whether I use it or not I won't be buying any game that has such a system.

Jefferson81

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Posts: 760

11/27/08 12:06:13 PM#66
Originally posted by pb1285n

Smoking kills - maybe we should enforce how many cigarettes a person can smoke?

Drinking kills - maybe we should enfoce how much a person can drink?

Overeating kills - maybe we should enforce how much a person can eat?

Watching TV kills - maybe we should enforce how much TV a person can watch?

 

The point I am getting is that we are adults and we should be responsible for how we live our life. In the case of a child then the parents should be the one putting the restrictions not the game.

 

Watch less TV play more online games, nubs!

 

stayontarget

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Posts: 2801

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11/27/08 12:19:39 PM#67

Some people say its taking away there freedom to do what they want, even if they cant reach the limit in hours a month.....funny thought.

No matter what you do in life there are limits and controls set on you and the item.TV= control  cars=speedlimits  guns=control.  drugs= control  (to just name a few)

Just because you want something does not mean your gonna get it the way you want it.  Welcome to the real world kidos.

Blodpls

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11/27/08 12:46:33 PM#68
Originally posted by stayontarget

Some people say its taking away there freedom to do what they want, even if they cant reach the limit in hours a month.....funny thought.

No matter what you do in life there are limits and controls set on you and the item.TV= control  cars=speedlimits  guns=control.  drugs= control  (to just name a few)

Just because you want something does not mean your gonna get it the way you want it.  Welcome to the real world kidos.

 

We can get it the way we want it by not paying them any money.  Don't pay them, don't have a limit, simple!

xKrNMBoYx

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Posts: 121

11/27/08 12:51:02 PM#69

I think this is a good start for a idea, but not a good one at the end.  Yes it will lower the botting, but it will also restrict a lot of real gamers who are into the game.   It can mess up someone during a sequence in a game, or maybe they only have one chance to play, but maybe they are over the limit.

They should leave the decision of how much people play games, to the player for their own sakes and lives, and if it gets ridiculously to addicited their parents should step in.

piotrsan

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Posts: 41

11/27/08 1:09:35 PM#70
Gimme a break , are you some kind of low lifes locked in their basements to whine about a 300 hours limit.Seriously that's playing 10 hours a day for 30 days in a row.Even if you are a kiddie with on life you shouldn't be playing that long , its bad for your health
pandrax

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Posts: 291

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11/27/08 1:20:43 PM#71

It really amazes me at the amount of people who actually come in to threads like this and  say something like " omfgz a time limitz on aion?!?! **** that game It suxxx" when it was clearly said many times it was Korean only.  Threads like these really bring out the worst in MMO communites, specially the ones who can't be bothered to read past the first three lines in the original post.

 

Also.... lol@ the guy who called south korea communist, that was priceless. I'm going to assume he thinks North Korea and South Korea are the same country with the same leaders..

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pandrax

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11/27/08 1:23:54 PM#72
Originally posted by Blodpls

Regardless of whether I use it or not I won't be buying any game that has such a system.

 

I doubt you'll read this as you obviously didn't read this thread or the other 2 threads on the same subject, but i'll try anyway. This subscription base is for KOREA only. They have laws against playing for more then 300 hours a month because of health reasons.

 

I really would of expected more from someone with 5 stars, I guess you didn't get them for your reading comprehension though. :)

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Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths, Enwrought with golden and silver light, The blue and the dim and the dark cloths Of night and light and the half light, I would spread the cloths under your feet: But I, being poor, have only my dreams; I have spread my dreams under your feet; Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.

bobfish

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11/27/08 1:35:52 PM#73

This only applies to South Korea and China due to laws regulating how long you can play an MMO.

Laws, which imo should be reproduced in the west as well, simply because it is unhealthy to play for prolonged periods at a time.

Loke666

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Posts: 3448

11/27/08 1:41:00 PM#74
Originally posted by nomadian

I read recently that Aion have imposed some limit on playtime to a maximum of 300 hours in a month. (This works out approx. at 10 hours/day.)

What are your thoughts on this being say applied to other mmos? Would it stop you playing it or do you think it could be a useful addition to curb excessive playing? I personally think that number could very easily be brought down to 250 and still allow 99% of people to play as much as they liked.

 

Yeah other people know off courae what is best for us.

Dumbest thing I ever heard, people with real MMO addiction will just play another game if they run out of hours. I play 2-4 hours a day but some weeks I don't play anything at all. But that is my decision.

aeroplane22

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Posts: 660

11/27/08 1:42:37 PM#75
Originally posted by pandrax

It really amazes me at the amount of people who actually come in to threads like this and  say something like " omfgz a time limitz on aion?!?! **** that game It suxxx" when it was clearly said many times it was Korean only.  Threads like these really bring out the worst in MMO communites, specially the ones who can't be bothered to read past the first three lines in the original post.

 

Also.... lol@ the guy who called south korea communist, that was priceless. I'm going to assume he thinks North Korea and South Korea are the same country with the same leaders..

 

This whole thread is hypothetical. The initial OP started this thread to pose a Q and A to see what people would think "IF" such restrictions were placed in the western world, not "WHEN".

It's merely a civilized discussion about ethics, economics and politics. If you can't find it in yourself to read past the first three lines like you suggest, then perhaps you should see your way elsewhere. Don't argue that you're being level with anyone, you came here throwing stones at as many people as you could and it does not make you look more sophisticated than those you throw stones at, for your information. It makes you look worse.


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